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Obama up big; Democrats up even more
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
A new Newsweek poll puts Obama up by 15 points over McCain, 51-36. That number is going to fluctuate a lot, and the election is still four months away. But here’s the number that really should have Republicans worried, because it fluctuates a lot less, has implications for every race on the ballot and can affect campaigns for years to come:
“Obama’s current lead also reflects the large party-identification advantage the Democrats now enjoy — 55 percent of all voters call themselves Democrats or say they lean toward the party while just 36 percent call themselves Republicans or lean that way. Even as McCain seeks to gain voters by distancing himself from the unpopular Bush and emphasizing his maverick image, he is suffering from the GOP’s poor reputation among many voters.”
That’s almost a 20-point advantage in party ID. The poll didn’t break that number out by age, but I would guess the Democrats’ advantage is particularly large among younger voters. And once young people identify with a party, they tend to maintain that identification throughout their lives.
It may be a generation before the Republican Party returns to power nationally.




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Comments
By Bruce becker
June 21, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
If impeachment proceedings happen, the numbers will get worse. As things stand: No one wants to be identified as a member of the party that approves torturing prisoners, ended Constitutional protections, outed a CIA agent as a political maneuver and apparently, lied to us all in five documented ways, about the false pretexts to go to war. Oh, and sent trillions of our hard earned dollars down the rat hole in a war designed merely to get members of Congress elected in the by-election of 2002.
By Tony
June 21, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
Possibly, Jay. But I remember Bill Clinton got elected using the same “Save the Country: rhetoric in 1996. In 1998 The Repubs took over Congress and held it for a WHILE. If Obama stays in the center he’ll do OK. If he is as far left as he seems to be, he will bring the Democrats right back down to their 1998 levels.
Something for them to think about.
By COL. [retd] A.M.Khajawall
June 21, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this
Great News for U.S.A And its diverse people.
From one concerned citizen of U.S.A,
Dear American Voters, reporters, media. professionals, political parties, and presidential Nominees,
Hon. Senator McCain and Obama, besides each having many attributes and characteristics. The critical differences between the two of these presidential presumptive nominees in my opinion are as under:
In my professional opinion Senator Obama leads in all above qualities and attributes.
Senator Obama and his administration along with congress will address all the critical current and future domestic and foreign issues, challenges, and opportunities in coming years.
Let us remember and recite following concepts:
” Family, Friends, Fellows, Faith, Funds, Foundation [s], Fun, with Freedom & Fairness and without Fear, Favor, & Failure” . It applies to every citizen of our Greatgrand Nation.
Please stay involved, stay engaged, and stay informed. Please do not allow any seduction, deception, and or confusion by some partisan media and leaders effect your vote [ Psychological Terrorism ]..
Yours truly,
COL. [retd] A.M.Khajawall Disabled American Veteran Forensic psychiatrist, Las Vegas
PS: Please talk about the ” Presidential Temperament And Caliber ” of our presumptive presidential Nominees. We do talk about the “Judicial Temperament” of our Supreme Court Justices nominees and so far we have failed to talk about the ” Presidential Temperament ” of our presumptive presidential nominees. The ” Presidential Temperament ” is the ultimate and in my opinion only requirement of our president as that effects every living soul here and around the world.
Thanks again.
By LawrenceNY
June 21, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
Theres no possible way the democrats could lose ANYTHING this year. Bush really screwed his party reputation. and thats a good thing because it shows the world that we do not tolerate our leaders being liars and especially the party that supports them.
By joe
June 21, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
throw the repub bums out!!!!!!!!
By Jim
June 21, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
Too all that read this, I have never voted with a particular party. I always vote my “heart”. I vote for who I think will be the best person to lead our country. What we need NOW is real change, for better or for worse. Both candidates are promising change. What we need to do is pick the one we believe will offer that to us. I have made up my mind that voting for McCain would be a big mistake. His policies and ideas closely follow those of our current president. In my opinion, I think Obama, being younger and leaning more towards new ideas, will be the best choice. I want my kids to have a better life, I think we all do. Let’s give them, at least, a chance at that.
By Abomi Nation
June 21, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Jay, I think that poll is a little misleading. Here is what the Newsweek poll says is the current political indentification:
22% claim to be Republican
36% claim to be Democrat
37% claim to be independent
I think that is not at all accurate, my research indicates this is true:
22% are Republicans
36% are Democrats
27% are independents
10% are too embarrassed to admit they are Republicans so they claim to be independent.
The Newsweek poll is obviously showing its liberal bias to not include an “Embarrassed Republican” category. Really, can you imagine being asked to admit to being a Republican? I sure would lie.
By Tom in California
June 21, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Time to put the Republicans on the shelf! It’s beginning to smell like 1932 out there!
By Horace Hill
June 21, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK THAT ANYTHING FROM NEWSWEEK IS NOT LEFT WING BIASED. Please print all of the other polls & let your readers see the differences.
By Iris
June 21, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
Our founding fathers knew that the time comes to replace the ruling group. The ex-maverick Republican McCain is wealthy and protects wealth and those in power. Fooled by aged Bush policies, he has no vision of a 21st century future. He doesn’t even know how to use a computer. Let this tradition hold: aren’t we still a forward looking nation that learns from past foolery?
By Barack Osama
June 21, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
Barack Obama Is The Antichrist:
http://digg.com/worldnews/BarackObamaIsTheAntichrist3
By tesfaye tola
June 21, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
If the world was to elect a president as one nation they would have voted for obama.His apparent determination for new way of governance and truthfulness would lead and inpire noe only the USA but also all of humanity.Have courage to change.
By librtyanne
June 21, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
If you consider the lead Obama has as well as my understanding that Bob Barr is taking most of McCain’s lead away in Barr’s home state of Georgia, this could turn into the Blueberry Peach state indeed.
By Chris
June 21, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
Why the low poll results for Republicans? Because Conservatism married Fascism. (While that’s not technically a gay marriage it does require reams of leiderhosen, and isn’t that the same thing)?
By Dusty
June 21, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
OK all you liberal Democrats. You have done your duty. You have reprinted tracts from the DNC. You have abused President Bush who has protected you and freed two countries. And YOU HATE HIM FOR IT.
You now make ugly suggestions about John McCain who has already sacrificed much for his country. McCain is a strong man with valid experience. So you try to make him look like an unknowing kook…which in reality is Obama, the smooth talking snake charmer who wouldn’t even vote to protect our country, much less free another one.
I am not even sure Obama LIKES America. His wife certainly does not and neither do many of his former friends. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t care too much for his grandmother after making an unpleasant racial remark about her.
Now, if that is the kind of man you want and get, you will have CHANGE all right. Drastic change! Retreat will be made responsible. Anti-Americanism will be foul freedom of speech. Taxes will be half of your income. Medical treatment will be “get in line when we’re available”. You’ll have free education but no jobs. Half the country will be living off food stamps and other support systems. And Obama will do for “oil” what the Dem-led Congress has already done. NOTHING! American troops will come home from Iraq carrying white flags.
Keep your candidate, Libs. I don’t want him. The people of Venezuela wanted “change” and they got Chavez. I care too much about this country to try and ruin it. You libs don’t seem to care.
By NinaK
June 21, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
ALL polls show Senator Obama in the lead over Senator McCain. I do not believe McCain will be able to overcome. Whether McCain wants to admit it or not, most feel he is too old to lead our country. His daily confusion and flipflopping add to this belief. I want a clear-minded President who does not forget from one day to the next. McCain is not clear-minded—-his advisors tell him what to say and when to say it, but McCain has trouble reading the teleprompter as well, so adds his own thing and confuses things even more!! Thanks, I’ll take the clear-minded Senator Obama, a man of vision, wisdom, intellect, good character, has a wholesome family, and who has already proven his awesome leadership and financial expertise! He has run the best campaign and the best fundraising in U.S. History. I am sure he will lead the country in the same way he has fun his campaign with excellence and outstanding results!
By enn
June 21, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Can’t wait to see how foxy news spins this.
By enn
June 21, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Why would any Republican be surprised, when you see Ashcroft leave office with a $50 million non compete contract, when you see FEMA and Wilma, when you see the Justice Department been run by idiots, when you see a war in a country that should never had been invaded and has cost the world millions of human lives and the US taxpayers billoions of dollas, , when you see the world turning almost entirely anti-American, when you see new GM factories been build in Mexico and closed down in the United States, whn you see oil companies and and rich countries sapping money out of the United States in a rate higher than the Chinese economy does, when you see the Vice President lying to the American people, when you see 8 years of a Republican Administration cronysm that hires people base on friendship or paybacks, when you see a govt that does not know how to keep a balance budget, a president that does not know how to defend the constituition only how to go aorund it, well, I for one is dismayed the lead is only 15 points.
By ByteMan
June 21, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
Poor Dusty. All that rage inside you burning to get out and no one wants to hear it any more. Must be like yelling in a forest with no one around to care. All alone. Oh, wait, you’re not quite all alone. About 29% of the people are right there with you. Enjoy.
By John
June 21, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
I am not a voter. However, the choices American voters make, affect all of the world. Please spare us from the misery of a Bush-like administration. Enough is enough.
By dj
June 21, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
NinaK, Sadly, you don’t see the irony in what you just wrote - all those things that you fear will come to pass should Obama be elected. Well I don’t know what fairy tale place you live in (guess is has to do with the kool-aid) but those things are already a reality. Those things have happend under GWB. Taxes taking half my income? I currently have NO income to TAX!
See - we used to be very gainfully employed middle class folks. One college educated and the other some college. Saved money, lived frugally, worked hard. George Bush has practically turned the USA into a 3rd world country overnight. What took 230+ yrs. to build, he and his lock step idealogues have torn to pieces.
You thought you’re taxes were being lowered. You got distracted when they put a $20 in your left pocket while they we’re lifting your wallet from your right one.
These fools have been on a power trip since ‘96. You gave them they keys to the car and the credit cards too. See what you have to show for it? You’ve been conned. If you don’t know it you deserve it. I for one have had enough. GO OBAMA!!!!!!!
By dj
June 21, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
Apologies to NinaK - my post should be directed to DUSTY
By Grading Wooten
June 21, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
What can go wrong for America? We are poised on the crest of a new golden age of justice. How could justice be subverted?
The Demographic Revolution in America was a peaceful one. Now, the average american citizen is an econo-caste iconoclast of the old world wallstreet giant that taxed only the little people.
The Demography of America today was not in the Republican brochure. Conservative hotheads may use mercenary force to prevent Americans from being America.
We could be the enemy we went over there for. We dont have to look any further than our own backyard for enemies.
By Abomi Nation
June 21, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
I was at the home of a friend the other day and witnessed something I’ll never forget. We were in his front room talking when his 13 year old son Josh burst into the room crying.
What happened next was truly touching. It happens to every father eventually. At some point a child will figure out that good ol’ dad isn’t perfect after all. This was that moment for Josh and his father, and I was a witness.
Josh crying, now almost hysterically, looked up at his startled father and asked with the biggest puppy dog eyes ever, “Daddy are you a Republican?”
My friend lost it. He knew this day would come, but still was not prepared. “Yes” my friend answered now sobbing himself, “Yes Josh, I’m sorry, I am a Republican. I am so, so sorry.” They both embraced, each knowing that things between them would never be the same. Each sobbing uncontrollably.
I too wiped a tear from each of my eyes that afternoon too. One for my friend, the other for America.
By Frederick Douglass
June 21, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this
DUSTY,DUSTY,DUSTY,CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT THE RUINATION OF THIS COUNTRY BEGAN IN EARNEST 8 YEARS AGO? I’M FLABBERGASTED BY THE BLINDNESS.
By Joe
June 21, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
I’m a republican and a conservative, but not a McCain supporter. I read all the comments here and came to the conclusion that most of you live in a cave somewhere with no outside contact. Socialism has been tried and has failed miserably in countries all over the world. I assume you haven’t studied history or world politics or you would know that. Senator Obama reminds me of a wide eyed college kid who has been indoctrinated by a commie professor. He doesn’t seem to have any real knowledge of what has gone on in Europe for the last fifty years.
Our success is a direct result of our economic system, capitalism. If you doubt me just take a look at the worlds greatest social experiment, Germany. You take a country full of intelligent, energetic, educated people and cut it in half. Make one half socialist and the other capitalist. Let it cook for fifty years. The socialist side is a total, pathetic disaster. The capitalist side is a clean, bright, booming success. If one of you can contact your guy Obama, let him know about this. I’m sure he’d be fascinated
By Archer
June 21, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
What Republicans need is a scapegoat. Let them sacrifice Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, and FOX News. With George Bush safely retired to Crawford, Republicans may be surprised that America then welcomes them back into the mainstream of public discourse. Or at least stops holding its nose.
By DWOLK
June 21, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
I’m sick of Obamania. I’m 17 years old (but will be 18 by the election), and am proud to say I’m republican. I will always support the party that is loyal to our allies (such as Israel and Saudi Arabia), that has economic sense: believing in the power of the market, being pro free trade, and lowering taxes. There is a reason that the U.S has better research and development in the medical field than all of Europe combined: entrepreneurs are rewarded for innovation. Give me a break with this belief that democrats will rule for a generation ; I believe the U.S will wake up and realize what they are getting into, and I know my generation knows better.
By Joe
June 21, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
To dj,
“wallstreet giant that taxed only the little people”
Uh, I think you might need to do a bit of fact checking about who pays the lion’s share of taxes in this country, it certainly isn’t “the little people.”
By The Voice of Reason
June 21, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
The Republicans don’t dare touch the subject for fear of getting slapped back for it, but Obama is planning to model his govenrment after Lincoln.
Here we have the supposed most “liberal” democrat to appear in ages, and yet there is nobody talking of his espousing moderate politics. This is a guy who is willing to work with people to enact change, and what we have to listen to in response is what? Nothing but sneers and ribbing from the old white men. If there were such a thing as a mark of a true President in my book, it would be his or her willingness to work with the PEOPLE who run things. If Bush and his ilk have taught me anything from these (almost) past 8 years, they look at governing as a matter of controlling a system and subverting the people who make it happen.
A new age of politics is on the horizon, and it will be led by a man who has the courage to push back against the commonly accepted orthodoxy of his day to make a change for the better. A change that will last for decades if not centuries, that will enlighten and strengthen the average man beyond the schemes and divisive strategies of the battle hardened white elites who struggle and kick on their way through the new doors of justice and peace.
By Crusty
June 21, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
Dusty
Bush protected us for years? What were they up to b4 sept. 01? seems like hiding intell from us and making us feel falsely secure. Just like falsely mapping this war to finish what dear old dad started….nothing more. Why do we feel we must police the world? we don’t
Obama will do more for us in one month. Watch and learn!
By jon
June 21, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
I like reading posts from GOPsters, like Dusty. One key thing about GOPsters, is that they project everything THEY think, on their perceived opponents. So, as you can tell from his post, he’s obviously repeating what he’s been told to think, yet he says everyone else is repeating DNC talking points. And, of course, all the lib/liberal mentions. He can’t understand, that not all Democrats, are Liberals. What we’re witnessing now, is the slow demise of the GOP… slow, because they have so much money, and control of the media, it’ll take a while for reality to reach the People. As the GOP locks itself into extreme right-wing dogma, the rest of us, will be finding a home with the Dem Party, which has a very diverse membership (right-wing to socialist). The GOP just walks in lock-step, or should I say goose-step…
By Joe
June 21, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
Voice of Reason, I’m happy to read your opinion on these matters, but could you spare us the maudlin slop. This is not creative writing 101.
By Jean
June 21, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
McBrain should go help his wife cook dinner
By dj
June 21, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Joe, speaking of slop.. I don’t live in a cave. I have a very nice home in the N. GA. mtns. and a 2nd one in NC. I have no debt except a small mortgage. My cars are paid for. My husband is out of work because his employer of 15+ yrs. was bought by A FOREIGN COMPANY and he was replaced by their people. This is NOT the world that existed in the 40’s. And yes - history can repeat itself. You’re real smart right? Do you not see plainly and very simply that we are experiencing many of the same things that let to the Great Depression. Unmitigated GREED, Capitalism run wild, screw ethics. Drown government in the bathtub right?
Remember this Joe? When Zell took over for Coverdell and he voted against increasing CAFE standards. Detroit screamed it was bad for business, and that of course was bad for America. Well, how’s that working out for you? Got stock in Ford/GM etc? Don’t want to pay any taxes, ever huh? Next time you need a cop then call your sentator.
I don’t support socialism. I also don’t support FACISM. I don’t believe it’s socialism to NOT want to stand by while my neighbors to the north have to burn their furniture and sell personal items to try and heat their homes this winter.
You are a fossil and a tool. Go away and take Dusty with you.
By Michael
June 21, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
Be suspicious of all polls. RealClear Politics has Obama up 5.5%. Gallup tracking poll has him up 2%. That’s a pretty wide variation. I think Obama SHOULD be up 15%. McCain has yet to explain what it means to win the Iraq War, which is really an American occupation in the midst of an Iraqi civil war. His tax policies favor the wealthy and his ideas for social security and health care range from suspect to scary.
By dirty white boy
June 21, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
White people are voting for Obama because it proves they are not racist.
Blacks are voting for Obama because he is black.
Not sure if hispanics and asians are voting for him.
DWB
By dj
June 21, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
Oh by the way Joe, I’ve said nothing about “wall street taxing the little people” - maybe you should lay off the kool aid for today.
By James
June 21, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
A couple of points:
1) It just takes one October surprise to bring it all crumbling down - but that cuts “both” ways. I really worry about McCains health. If he even has a “heart blip” it’s all over. And you Dems should worry about a major terror attack (or even an attempted one) on this country as the public might then choose safety with McCain & Republicans over change with Obama & Democrats.
2) Yes, you are correct. The Dems are up 55% to 36% and the way you keep bringing in all the illegals with their birthrates and brainwashing kids in government schools your figures will continue to go even higher. Congratulations -you should be proud of your efforts.
3) Being ahead in the polls or voting block numbers doesn’t make you right on the major issues and it doesn’t mean your plans for this Republic are for the best but I pride myself on being a realist. The “handwriting is on the wall” and unfortunately the last time that happened it wasn’t good.
4) Finally, you may have already seen this but if not it’s pretty good and prophetically accurate regarding other countries that have gone before us:
from bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to complacency;
from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage”
Thanks in large part to liberal polices, philosophies, education, legislation and court rulings I believe we are well into #7.
May God in His mercy spare the United States of America ………
By True_Republican
June 21, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this
If Obama wins, I feel I’m to blame, I sat back and watched GWB make a mess of this Nation and the Republican Party! It will be hard for us to gain any trust or respect from this nation again! Everything from “outing” spies to Restroom Homosexual Sex Stings! When does it end and start over for my party?
By Bill
June 21, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
With the passage of time history will reflect poorly on the record of George W. Bush. If you’re a rich guy/gal with a $25 mil net worth you’ll miss his tax generosity. To bad America has suffered so much with his limited vision. I can’t imagine his father being proud of him.
By dj
June 21, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this
Uh James, you might want to back up there a bit before you blame all your bullet points on “liberals”.
What party has been in power the vast majority of the years since oh.. lets say the 60’s? Cue Jeopardy music….
By Joe
June 21, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
dj, Dusty and I are on a completely different page. I am not a Bush fan, he and his globalist corporate buddies are selling this country for all they can get. Bush won’t close the border because he has some long term plan to assemble a North American Union, much like the EU. All the corporate guys care about is market, they don’t want borders in their way. But, Obama?? The guy is a little commie punk. He’s Al Sharpton with a smoother line and stick out ears. Get a grip, we gotta do better than that.
By Dusty
June 21, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
Dear jon. 3:21
Your perception and knowledge seem to be ..well…missing.
First..I am not a man.
Second..I have no connections whatsoever with the output of the Republican Party. I don’t see any GOP reprints filling every blog either. McCain does not PAY 29 people in Georgia to spread his political output..Obama does.
THIRD..Obama has just flipflopped on another PROMISE. He and John McCain agreed to abide by financial limitations set by those in charge of elections. Obama found out he could get and spend more money without abiding by his PROMISE. So he is spending all the money available even though he agreed to regulations. That is called UNETHICAL. I guess you will say that is OK.
Third..Obama voted AGAINST fighting the terrorists who had attacked our country on 9/11. Now he wants to bring home our troops in disgrace just as Iraq is getting independent but still needing our help.
Fourth..You better read what you plan to favor. I don’t think you have. Quit saying CHANGE without reading the changes. You might be surprised. Right now, it seems the Pied Piper is leading his ignorant children right down the path to socialism. Better think awhile instead of singing and dancing to Obama’s soothing call. He wants to be the country’s nanny instead of being a leader. Which reminds me, his experience as a leader is almost ZERO. 0000000000 Another one of those CHANGES!!!
By makeeazymoneytoday.com
June 21, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
the Republicans are being Obamanated and they just have yet to realize it they had a better chance if huckebee was the nominee at least his years as governor of Arkansas would have been a serious challenge to Obama but…we are talking about McCain who has the audacity to keep preaching tax cuts and supporting the Iraq Conflict while the infrastructure of America is deteriorating see: Iowa and New Orleans,the bridge collapse in Minnesota and the sewer system here in Atlanta all of these things need federal government help and assistance.
republicans claim to be such die hard christians but yet arent willing to scrafice something to help rebuild this country.
as often as they dont want it to happen Obama will be the first great president of the United States of the 21st hell he will already be teh best since FDR and wasnt HE a democrat?
makeeazymoneytoday.com
By Abomi Nation
June 21, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
Joe is a conservative Republican who does not support President Bush or John McCain. He hates Obama because he is a communist with stick out ears.
You poor thing Joe. You have nothing. No wonder the ranks of Republicans are dwindling.
By KEEPING IT REAL!
June 21, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
The “Grand Old Party” simply couldn’t roll-out the candidate it would like to had? I know when your best horse in not available to race and you simply have to go to a backup or a speed horse.
I am a veteran of the Korean Conflict and I will be seventy Five in October. I know how hard it is to go full board everyday! J.M. is simply going to have to take a few days off durning the week. OB with have to go it alone!
Those fireside chats with a few citizens asking a few questions about Hanno is a lot more inviting that rolling out the bed a 5am in the morning and draging in after 11pm everynight until November…..five months! Where is Ralph Reed anyway ??????????????
By dj
June 21, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
Joe - I am backing Obama as I don’t seem to have any other choice. Hillary and McCain are flip sides of the same coin. I am so tired of having to seemingly choose between the devil and the deep blue sea. Where are the adults? Real leaders? Anyone with a wit of common sense, the guts to do what’s right and not necessarily politically expedient..
Obama cana’t be any worse of a ‘punk’ than W. “commie”, please! Have you read all 90+ pages of PNAC? You DO know who authored that don’t you? Prove to me he’s Al Sharpton.
You probably watch a lot of Fox. At least he didn’t grow up with a silver spoon in his mounth. George Bush has never had a REAL job in his life. He NEVER had to worry about a roof over his head, medical care, education, or to quote him “putting food on your (his) family”. Obama is inexperienced - so was JFK. But anymore experience like we’ve had for the last 8 yrs., and we’re toast.
A lot of the problems are created when people can’t admit mistakes, and thereby learn from them.
By Dusty
June 21, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
Crusty,
Go ahead and vote for the nice man who will take care of all your needs. And he will do it while taking half of your money in taxes.
Bush only had 8 MONTHS to straighten out the mess that Clinton left… a depleted military for one thing.. Bush, Blair and the UN all came to the same conclusion on reading CIA and BRIT INTEL reports about terrorism and wmds. What did you want BUSH to do? Sit and wait for another attack? That’s the liberal way. And thank goodness Kerry wasn’t there. I don’t want terrorists knocking down my door, now or later.
Bush will go down in history as one of our strong presidents. I don’t call it a “fan” to say the man did the right thing for this country and two others. He has slowed terrorism around the world.
“Fans” are for movie star types, like Obama. He makes a nice “show” but there is nothng behind it. Maybe he will throw you libs a hankie or something if he’s president. You know. Just like Elvis did.
By Chris
June 21, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
The truth is we will really have no hope if McCain is elected. I feel like a vote for him would doom many more American soldiers, soldiers in a civil war that we can´t win, in a place we should have never invaded—the truth is now coming out that Iraq was never a threat to US security. I intend to vote for Obama, it will take many years to undo the damage that has been done in the last seven.
By Reborn Republican
June 21, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
Maybe a lot of registered Dems are voting for Obama, but there are a lot (many I know myself) that are NOT voting for him, but are crossing over to vote Republican. It’s a bad sign when even your own party doesn’t want to vote for you.
By RR
June 21, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
So Chris…you think there is hope for America if a Muslim is in office?
By GOPs got to go
June 21, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
Hey Joe,
Were you named after your grandpa, Joe McCarthy? Save your “Socialism, Commie” references for your Klan Rally speech. Rotate that hood a little so the eye holes are not obscuring your vision so much. You and Dusty need cataract surgery big time.
So Poppa Bush has kept us safe? Iran is now free to do what it wants, thanks to our castration in Iraq. Al Qaeda is now a strong figure in a country where it never was before, Iraq.
And Bin Laden is still out there. If we had put 1/2 the money and effort that was put towards the Iraq fiasco into finding Bin Laden and the Afghanistan war then we might be safer. And what about Blackwater? Would someone please follow that money trail? I would not be surprised to see it lead to Cheney.
This administration has made America more hated by the entire world, not just Muslims.
By Craig
June 21, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
I nominate Chris @ 1:46 for the best post of the day:
“Why the low poll results for Republicans? Because Conservatism married Fascism. (While that’s not technically a gay marriage it does require reams of leiderhosen, and isn’t that the same thing)?”
Hilarious.
Obama ‘08…
By GOPs got to go
June 21, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
Just how many of YOUR kids are actually in the military?
By GOPs got to go
June 21, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
Just how many of YOUR kids are actually in the military? Probably as many as Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield.
By GOPs got to go
June 21, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
My dear Dusty,
I can take care of all my needs by myself. I have a JOB, and No mortgage, and PLENTY of money. I know I should technically be a Repugnican, but I also have a CONSCIENCE. So I vote FOR the troops, not just a flag waving, eagle screaming idiot following Fox’s O’Reiley. Stop getting them killed over OIL and BIG money contracts.
And I am a white, Catholic woman.
By dj
June 21, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
Dusty - you can write, but do you read? Have YOU ever read PNAC? Do you even know what it is? For the umpteenth time, IRAQ DID NOT ATTACK THE USA. Osama been forgotten attacked us. Osama is a Saudi. The Saudis, who are sticking the nozzle to us in a very big way, are not really our great allies. They are buying up our country with our money, because we are stupid! We elected someone because he would be great to have a beer with! Someone who said as an old oil man, he knew how to “jawbone” with the Saudis. Yeah - W. goes hat in hand begging them to stop it and play nice, and he basically gets a pat on the head, lip service, and hysterical laughter from all of OPEC.
We as a country have become a pariah in many parts of the world, thanks to your dear leader. Why anyone would try and argue with you - including me - is pointless. You probably still belive in the tooth fairy. By the way, also for the umpteenth time, Obama is NOT Muslim. Shutting off laptop before beating head against desk anymore.
By GOPs got to go
June 21, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
Agree with you dj,
Dusty and Joe can take James and go to an all night “BUSH ” rally over at Jim Wooten’s house.
My forehead is sore also.
By Joe
June 21, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
GOPs got to go, I think you’re right about me, I believe Joe McCarthy was a great guy. He was right all along and you pathetic libs still won’t admit it. You’ll watch this great country go to socialist hell before you ever do. Your social engineering policies have been tried over and over for forty years and all they managed to do was completely destroy the African American family stucture. Now all you losers are patting each other on the back for being “compassionate.” History is going to be very tough on you.
By George Holman
June 21, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this
Bush is the worst President of my lifetime and probably ever. Warren Harding should be grateful that Bush will replace him as the worst President in American history.
We must elect for Change! Obama in ‘08!
By YALL ARE GETTING NERVOUS
June 21, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this
Socialism is thrown around a lot on this board, but I have one big question. What industry is Obama advocating that we nationalize? Do you think Obama wants to start government grocery stores or shopping malls? Healthcare, education and infrastructure are generally the responsibility of the government. That’s true in every single developed nation and ours to an extent. Government involvement is thoses areas is far from socialist. I think Dusty and his ilk need to do little bit of “objective” research before they go own here an give political science lectures.
By Frederick Douglass
June 21, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
Crusty, I think Milledgeville is off of Hwy.441 South. It shouldn’t be too very hard to find Central State Hospital for the mentally challenged. I’m an older guy, but I feel pretty self assured that Dubya won’t be viewed as a strong president, if anything he’ll go down as the guy that allowed terrorism to spread.I still can’t fathom why all of our resources, manpower, and energy was directed to Iraq when Bin Laden (remember the 9/11 mastermind)is supposedly in Afghanistan. Bin Laden must be laughing heartily in his plush cave.
By toobadsosad
June 21, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this
Dear Joe,
Their are reasonable, rational, historically factual arguments being articulated here. Your post is typical of conservative’s ability to debate same: when overwhelmed, use words like “pathetic, losers, socialist”, etc. Won’t you even make an effort to address some of the questions/challenges posed to you? No?
Oh yes, with regard your mocking liberals for compassion. Joe, it’s conservatives who ran on and lay claim to “compassion”….
By Nate Gilbert
June 21, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
Obama reminds me of Jimmy Carter. Both were elected as a reaction to much of the country’s frustration with the previous Republican President (ie Nixon, Bush.) After a four year term the nation realized its mistake and we had a landslide victory for the Republican party. I’m an independent, but I like McCain, but I think the US is going to elect another “Jimmy Carter.” It scares me to think what a President Obama will be like.
By Dirty White Boy
June 21, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this
White people will have their white guilt assuaged with an Obama presidency.
Black people will get retribution and reparations from Obama.
The Gestapo(INS) will round up all the Mexicans and send them back.
Everybody will happy!!!
Democrats can trample all over human rights and everybody loves it.
Republicans so much as fart in someones face and they are branded facist, racist, and greedy capitalist.
I love America—what a F’d up place—-but it works.
DWB
By toobadsosad
June 21, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this
President Obama scarey? McCain scare me more. Talk about flip-flopper. This is the same guy that Bush totally, ruthlessly, trashed in 2000. McCain literally kissed & hugged the man who stabbed him in the back. I like McCain OK in 2000, but no more now. He appears to have sacrificed his integrity on the altar of ambition. Don’t need anymore of that.
By James
June 21, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this
To DJ:
But that’s the point DJ. Being in office does not mean you are in power. There is a little saying out there that is so true:
When the democrats are in office they are in power - when the republicans are in office they are in office.
For some reason - democrats use their power better than republicans. I know why but I choose not to go down that road in this forum. Here is just one clue. Regardless of what you think of President Bush he (and Mrs. Bush) go out of their way to be nice to democrats, praise them when they deserve it, etc., etc. The democrats never reciprocate. Take it from me (I served 27 years in a federal agency that is as physically close to the president that a person can get) and I know that democrats use their power better than republicans.
What that means is that even with a Republican president and sometimes a Republican congress the democrats use inappropriate tactics to stymie Republican legislation, judicial appointments and policies that go far beyond what should be acceptable. They play hard ball much better than their “friends” across the aisle.
Most (but not all) democrats are the closet thing to a collective group of “spoiled children” I ever saw in my 11 years stationed in Washington, D.C. One man’s opinion and of course you will disagree.
Time will tell the tale……
By Roosevelt Walton
June 21, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
Go OBAMA!!!! GO DEMS….Time for a change… (a SOLID Supporter).
RW….MACON GA
By DNC
June 21, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
Go away dusty. you and your ilk are the problem.
By Charles
June 21, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this
What do you hope to gain by using a MOP (Manipulation Of Polls) strategy? You cherry-pick Newsweek’s poll with a sampling of 800 voters, while ignoring the major polls that use a huge sampling. The average difference between Obama vs McCain in the other seven polls, taken in the past few days, shows a spread of four points for Obama over McCain. Yet, you use the ridiculous 15-pt spread to highlight. Where is the integrity in this?
By DNC
June 21, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this
True_Republican much respect for taking responsibility. As a Democrat many of us felt the same way in 2000 and again 2004. It should have never been close between Gore and Bush in 2000. Gore’s ineffective campaign gave Bush the opening. It’s tough to beat an incumbent but Kerry had a real shot given the opponent. He ran an awful campaign and let the GOP define him. If McCain wins let us all hope that he governs from a more productive place than Bush and the people around him. They have left behind an abomination for the next president to clean up.
By Dawg88
June 21, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
Obama should not be the leader of this or any nation with outrageous embracing of the The Culture of Death agenda. He is the most radical abortion advocate in history.
How many of you know that he is not just what people call…”Pro-Choice”. (BTW…Pro-Choice…is the right to do what? Right to do what? The choice was made and now the only choice is life.) He is also in favor of allowing partial birht abortion which is the birthing of the baby until the head comes out and then the brain is literally sucked out in order to kill the fetus.
He also voted (as an Illinois state senator) not to allow a physician to save the life of a baby if it survives an abortion. If the baby is born, the fetus is placed in an unsanitary area (as a nurse once explained the explained the procedure) and just allowed to die.
Is this the type of leader, our nation needs. If he will not stand up for the nation’s weakest of citizens (one of God’s own creations), then how we treat the rest of the country? It is unbelieveable how we take his positions so lightly.
Now, I know some will bash what I have written…saying that its the woman’s right and that the government shouldn’t control a person’s body, etc. But what about the rights of the child and his her body? Just think…if we would come face to face with God and talk to him about this…what would we say?
You know what is right folks. It is the killing of a child that Obama believes should be protected. Sickening and a sad commentary on our society. Show me how a society treats its weakest and most vulnerable of citizens and you will have a window into the soul of that nation.
Aborted babies’ blood is crying out from the earth for justice. Its time to end it! Obama will only add to the level we sink into the Culture of Death.
God Bless!
By dj
June 21, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this
James,
I respect your service, opinion and the perspective it has engendered. Surprise: I would agree that Dems act like spoiled children. They also act like spineless weenies. I do disagree with the “power” premise. To your argument that dems play hardball better than reps and offer the name of Tom Delay.
Democrats are not blameless for the state of the State. I have a little saying too. It’s the one about the pot calling the kettle black. I’ll ask you that old question: are you better off now than you were 8 yrs. ago? Republicans simply cannot govern.
I don’t know what the solution is, if there is a solution. Yes - we’e suffering here at our house. But it’s probably nothing compared to many others. Nevermind me/us. What has me beyond furious is thinking what kind of future my six great nephews and one neice - ages 1 through 8 - are going to have.
Republicans got the total control they’ve sought for years. They did everything possible, including some things that most likely we’ll find out makes Nixon look like a Boy Scout, to make their party control permanent. A direct contradiction to the Constitution.
Talk about drunk with power - well, they’ve put it in a ditch for certain. They get no quarter from me. Ever. Again.
Oh, as for Bush being nice to Democrats? I think your confusing patronizing with being polite. Don’t get me started on go Cheney yourself Dick.
By CHARLIE BOY
June 21, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this
what a bunch of empty-headed dummies!! I could see where obama’s wife and a few people that may receive appointments would vote for him but for anyone else it is completly stupid. You can see the trouble one hussein has caused this country and the people in his- why in hell would you put another America hating hussein in the white house? This could only be accomplished by the Party of Perverts known as DumacRATS. these people of no morals will cry about the volunteers that we lost in good cause in Iraq but they support the mass murder of children in their homeland. Tey call it a womans choice if she murders her child but if you are concerned about the 4,000 troops we tin Iraq then add up the total of lives lost at the rate of one every 20 seconds in abortion. You should stop your hating of your president and turn your anger at the party that is supporting this slaughter of our children. it probably too late for people like JAY see the error of their ways for he makes a living reveling in their deaths but you younger people should think about the repercussions of your actions. There is a higher authority than jay that you and he will eventually answer to. SAY NO TO ANOTHER HUSSEIN AND SUPPORT YOUR COUNTRY.
By Joe Mac
June 21, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this
“It may be a generation before the Republican Party returns to power nationally …” America as we know it will not exist a generation from now.
By Joe
June 21, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this
YALL ARE GETTING NERVOUS, Just this past week the dems suggested we nationalize the oil refineries to better control distrabution. We have a Secretary of Education. The Constitution says that powers not granted to the feds are reserved to the states or to the people. The word “education” does not appear in the Constitution so the feds have zero reason or authority to get involved in it. Same thing with health care. If you would like to actually read the Constitution I think you can find a copy on the net.
By dirty white boy
June 21, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this
Republicans are racists*—-B.O.
(http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2040982720080620?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true)
By dirty white boy
June 21, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this
Republicans are racists —B.O.
[http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2040982720080620?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true]
By dirty white boy
June 21, 2008 7:25 PM | Link to this
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2040982720080620?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true
By Grading Wooten
June 21, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this
DNC, Clinton’s clown act ruined Gore’s chances. Gore still won, but when it’s that close, you cant blame more ambitious hearts for stealing it.
The worlds not fair. If it was, then movies wouldn’t stink so bad. Mediocrity reigns in america. Period.
By dirty white boy
June 21, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this
Damn hyperlink—worth the read though.
If the republicans keep 35 Senate seats and 146 house seats—-the democrats might as well go fart in the wind.
Republicans will keep BO jammed up so tight his ears might just fold in.
Republicans are extremely effective as the minority opposition party. Not worth a s** as the ruling party.
It is going to be a fun four years.
DWB
By Grading Wooten
June 21, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this
Dawg88: talk to a woman once in a while, you’ll get a belly full of choice talk. Women kill feti. Period. Men dont. WOmen do.
Women are murderin’ scum. I know. I was engaged to a woman who got pregnant. It scared her, she felt trapped, so she had an abortion and ran off with a used car salesmen. I hated that summer.
But dont go generalizin’ Dawg, ‘bout who be doing the killin. I really have a problem with folks what dont think things out afore they comment.
‘muff sez
By Charlie Wilson
June 21, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this
Funny the only folks complaining about raising taxes are those that make 100K plus. Funny I make 100K plus and I won’t complain as long as my dollars are not waisted buying Iraqi soldier equipment and playing a ga-zillion dollars to defense contractors who take bribes and submit fake invoices for reconstruction work that was never completed.
CHANGE IS GOOD—and less costly let’s get busy in Afghanistan where the 911 cluprit is—wake up America why follow a party that attempts to impeach a president for having an affair—then give a pass to a president that has waisted zillions of dollars (an american lives) of the bases of LIES!!
By Grading Wooten
June 21, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this
The democrats are pathetic, I usually get really embarrassed by their pronouncements. Reid and Pelosi and the rest.
But we either go with the democrats, or the Republicans. You know?
We can vote either way, but the point is that we have to make a choice, like a prostitute chooses to either take the money and go around the world, or take the money and just do a 69, it’s a choice, like we have to vote repudlickan or democracks. I’m getting turned on as I write this for some reason. It’s probably nothing but a normal human think of sex every 15 minute thing that we all do.
By Hirotomi Takemitsu
June 21, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this
I would never vote for McCain. He is the same as Bush. I heard his wife speak today. She is just as bad, or worse. About withdraw from Iraq, she said “We should leave with honor and with victory.”
Nauseating!!!!
It was a mistake to get involved from Day One!!! iT’S TIME TO GET OUT.
OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT IN ‘08 !!!!!
By Grading Wooten
June 21, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this
HEY! is anyone else getting the sick feeling that it dont matter who we elect, that the Saudi Royal Family is in control of our occupation of Iraq?
Via Cheney?
Haliburton?
Mercenaries are being hired to kill us all if we protest. Blackwater mercenaries hired by Cheney cronies to kill Americans who protest the Iraq war and other injustices in this country.
It’s like the 70’s at Kent State, Man! Four dead in OHIO!!!!
Tin soldiers and Cheney’s coming, we’re finally on our own, blackwater is going to kill us, Four million dead and oh my oh!!!
I think civil war is coming here. I can feel it. R we gonna take it, patriots? It’s time we be what we are: rebels. It’s what King George called our forefathers..
Walk softly boys…….
By GSM124
June 21, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this
Just an observation - to my knowledge, this is the first presidential election in American history where one of the candidates is reportedly suspected of being the Anti-Christ. Beyond bizarre.
By Hillbilly Deluxe
June 21, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this
After Watergate they said it would be a generation before Republicans got back in the White House. Then along came Jimmy Carter. George Wallace got one thing right and thats when you get right down to it..Dems and Repubs…ain’t a dime’s worth of difference between them….they’re mainly interested in self preservation and nothing else.
By Nick
June 21, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this
GOP = Big Government, Big Spend & Big War. Not a winning formula.
By Analchord
June 21, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this
The antichrist? Obama’s not the antichrist. I am the antichrist. While christ himself shocked the world by forgiving sins. I judge the world and condemn souls. I judge you. and you, sir. And you ma’am. I condemn your souls to hell. I claim the authority given by the ocean and the stars and everything satan showed Christ in the desert.
I am analchord, the antichrist. Now sit back and watch me get even for the devil. All your money cant save you. Nothing can save you. Hell is for the hell of it. Your hell is my heaven. I win. Nothing can beat the power of the antichrist. Not even allah. or Yahwey. or that weird elephant thing the hari krishnas pray to.
Nothing. I rule the world of souls. You are mine.
just kidding LOL :)
rotflmao oh jimmycrackcornandIdontcare
bwa
By Greg
June 21, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this
Jay, I’m only one of approximately 110,000,000 Americans who will vote in the upcoming presidential elections. I don’t guess my vote means anything given how little it will impact the election. Maybe I and other Americans SHOULD NOT vote. After all, how much of an impact will one individual vote make in the election?…(like he11 I won’t vote!!!).
Your argument for NOT adding additional, incremental supplies of oil located in ANWR and elsewhere sounded like my argument for NOT voting.
Now, let’s go drill for some oil.
By daxxed
June 21, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this
Vote Obama and you get guaranteed, Higher Taxes, lower wages, massive unemployment due to tax increase on business owners. As I have informed 4 employess that if Obama is elected they will be terminate. I am not going to pay higher taxes and not ake up for the loss and I have heard many business owners state the same. So vote Obama, and atch the country slide way below any unemployment rate in the past 2 decades.
By daxxed
June 21, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this
Vote Obama and you get guaranteed, Higher Taxes, lower wages, massive unemployment due to tax increase on business owners. As I have informed 4 employess that if Obama is elected they will be terminated. I am not going to pay higher taxes and not make up for the loss and I have heard many business owners state the same. So vote Obama, and watch the country slide way below any unemployment rate in the past 2 decades.
By YALL ARE GETTING NERVOUS
June 21, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this
Joe said
YALL ARE GETTING NERVOUS, Just this past week the dems suggested we nationalize the oil refineries to better control distrabution. We have a Secretary of Education. The Constitution says that powers not granted to the feds are reserved to the states or to the people. The word “education” does not appear in the Constitution so the feds have zero reason or authority to get involved in it. Same thing with health care. If you would like to actually read the Constitution I think you can find a copy on the net.
Joe,
BTW, Maxine Waters(D)California independently said something about nationalizing oil and NOONE in the Democratic leadership advocated for that and Obama certainly has not. The same goes for nationalizing oil refineries. That’s not a Democratic platform position. You haven’t heard for any legitimate calls for “US Oil” and you know it.
As far as the constitution goes I’m not a strict constructionist. Very few people truly are, except for ardent libertarians(Neil Boortz is not libertarian) After the Civil War the federal government was strengthened and from the new deal until now Republicans and Democrats alike have expanded the role of the federal government. Many people foolishly indentify Republicans as strict constructionists. George W. Bush believes in the idea of the “Unitary” executive.(hardly constructionist) Once Obama is in Republicans will b*** up a storm about executive power. Republicans are generally as wobbly as Democrats on “Strict Constructionism.”
*Back to the topic. THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE IS SICK OF THE GOP. In 2006 Georgia was an anomoly. Our conservative Democrats Marshall and Barrow almost lost to Right Wing extremists in bad year for all Republicans and Sonny won in a landslide in a year where 6 GOP Governor’s were defeated. This year it looks like the tide will finally hit Georgia.
By wetset99
June 21, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this
At this point can anybody do worse than GWB has already done? Dusty, ur a complete idiot if u think Iraq was responsible for 911! I mean, seriously unemployment??? R U kidding me, we already have massive unemployment, people losing their homes at unbelievable rates, GAS AT $4 f—king dollars a gallon! and you talk about freeing other countries. Who the hell cares about another country. I live in America and we shouldn’t have to live like this. It’s ridicilous! and sad to say I bet Dusty is some red-neck in a trailer park with an income of less than $10,000. Guess what, the GOP don’t give a damn about you. It’s not about race, it’s about socio-economic status! Wake the F-up!!! Anybody who’s willing to REALLY make a stance at making a CHANGE, I’m all for it. Like I said, after GWB, I’ll put a dog in office!!! Can’t mess up anymore than he did!!!
By Jimbo
June 21, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this
Wow. From the looks of the comments made here, for the party of understanding and tolerance, most of you hold a lot of hatred toward others. You all sound like stark raving mad Nazis. Are you firing up tha gas chambers for those that don’t agree with you? Sure sounds like it.
By Borat Obama
June 21, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this
I’ll go ahead and say it. The Dems on this blog sure seem like a bunch of hateful A-holes. Makes me proud to be an American.
By Borat Obama
June 21, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this
Grading Wooten….Dude, you need to lay off the medication.
By Vernetta Bradley
June 21, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this
I’m a black female (56), educated, and retired since 2002 who hates to see that in 2008 RACISM still exist against any American. Love, like, or hate it, this is America home of the free and brave. I’m voting for Obama - all the way in November 2008. I never would have believed that this could happen in my lifetime. GOD BLESS AMERICA!
By DaveD
June 21, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this
You see those like Dust Rag (and like Borat just above) think that it’s perfectly fine to kill innocent “living” Iraqi’s in an illegal war. That they are OK as collateral damage… yet an “unborn” baby aborted is murder. Maybe it has something to do with the religion of those Iraqi’s….right Dust Rag?
By Borat Obama
June 21, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this
DaveD, Thanks for proving my point. A-Hole.
By Borat Obama
June 21, 2008 10:33 PM | Link to this
Vernetta, You voting for him because he’e black or for his position on the issues?
By Ms. Tucker If Ur Nasty
June 21, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this
Whatever happened to Brownie the FEMA Czar/Dubya crony that was so inept,hope he has a book coming out soon.
By James
June 21, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this
To DJ:
I can’t argue with a lot of what you say either. The Republicans can’t govern well and the Democrats govern badly. The sad thing is that with almost 400,000,000 people in this country that these are our two choices. What a sad indictment of the process that running for the President of the United States has become. That said, to me it comes down to the lesser of two evils.
Based on my time in Washington, my view of history and what I fear for the future I just hope and pray we don’t put a socialist (almost a marxist) possible “Trojan-Horse” in the Whitehouse. The times are just too dangerous. As tainted as he is on some issues at least we know who McCain is.
P.S. If Obama were a Federal employee or government contractor he could never receive a top secret clearance based on his past and current associations with know domestic terrorists. As a Federal employee I could have lost my clearance for a whole lot less than that. Is this who the American people want for President? If they do - the country I grew up in no longer exists.
Semper Fi …………….
By no mccain
June 21, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this
tony, the only problem w/1998 and cinton’s presdency was the repblican congress. if you remember times were good then, the budget was BALANCED, and gas was about 1.79. look at what has happened since bush got in office! 2 wars, gas at 4.00 a gallon, corruption, dick cheney and several o his aids and advisors quitting. what does that tell you? mccain will be another bush. vote republican? hell no!!!
By no mccain
June 21, 2008 10:49 PM | Link to this
tony, the only problem w/1998 and cinton’s presdency was the repblican congress. if you remember times were good then, the budget was BALANCED, and gas was about 1.79. look at what has happened since bush got in office! 2 wars, gas at 4.00 a gallon, corruption, dick cheney and several of his aids and advisors quitting, high taxes for the middle class, low or non existent for the rich, unemployment is high, health care is suffering,people can’t pay their utilities or their mortages, let alone their gasoline. what does that tell you? mccain will be another bush. vote republican? hell no!!!
By EverGator
June 21, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this
May God bless the USA!
By YALL ARE GETTING NERVOUS
June 21, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this
Republicans all like to criticize the Obama’s as being unamerican and “not like us.” For all of the talk of the Clinton’s being so immoral the McCains aren’t the best shining example of family values. The John McCain story isn’t all that great beyond his POW years. He started his affair with Cindy while his first wife who waited for him while he was POW was crippled. Cindy late became a prescription drug attack who stole drugs from the charity she worked for. I say this because if Michelle and Obama had a story remotely like this YALL would never shut up about it. It seems like the Obama’s are more All-American in a lot of ways than the McCains. John and Cindy were also born with silver spoons in their mouths and Barack and Michelle grew up in modest circumstances and were able to graduate from Ivy league schools. For all of the talk about family values and self reliance from your side it seems the The Obama’s are a better example than the McCains.
By chuck allison
June 21, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this
Osama Bin Laden said that Al Queda would win the war against terrorism because Americans don’t have the stomach for war. I knew he was right because I saw what the press and the liberals did during Viet Nam. Our soldiers could win if they had the support from the people. Count me among the 30% who believe Bush has always done the right thing.
By Georgia Boy
June 22, 2008 6:29 AM | Link to this
The recent spate of bad economic news- a .5% jump in the unemployment rate, stock market declines, and the ever-surging cost of oil- has resulted in Obama’s characterization of the 2008 presidential election as a referendum on a 3rd Bush term . Further, McCain has given credence to Obama’s characterization by repudiating his maverick positions and becoming a clone of the most unpopular out going president since Jimmy Carter. Within this context, the Newsweek poll is not that surprising. I realize that some pundits single out the 1988 race as evidence that McCain can still prevail, but Bush the Elder had the support of a relatively popular out-going President in Ronald Reagan. McCain has the support of a reviled president. Big difference.
The real political question is whether or not the Democratic majority holds 60 Senate seats , enough to invoke cloture on debate, which I think is a “bridge too far”. Nevertheless, I think that the Obama campaign’s recent repudiation of public financing is a an attempt to build a governing majority through the leveraging of its huge financial advantage.
Stay tuned, this could be interesting.
By dirty white boy
June 22, 2008 7:27 AM | Link to this
All Hail King Obama. He has changed the presidential seal already. When he said change, he meant it. I bet, he has the White House painted black within a month after he is sworn it.
Hey Vernetta, who gives a s** that you are black, educated, 56 and retired since 2002. I bet you also have a wide fat black a* from sitting on it all day. Look in the mirror if you want to see a perfect picture of racism. You believe that anyone who criticizes BO is a racist. Bet deep down you really want to be white and hate being black——just like BO.
By dirty white boy
June 22, 2008 7:40 AM | Link to this
A question for all the black people on this board that are descendants of slaves:
Do you believe that you desreve and that you will receive reperations from an Obama presidency and a democratic majority congress?
By dirty white boy
June 22, 2008 7:52 AM | Link to this
Hey Vernetta—yes I am calling you out.
You say you are 56 and have been retired for 6 years. That means you are probably a retired teacher. due to your age, I am guessing retired from Dekalb, Atlanta City Clayton or some other majority black school system. What a f*** joke 56 years old and have been living off the public dole for 6 years-totally unproductive and you contribute nothing to society. Sadly, you are not alone and there are millions out there just like you.
People like you make me sick. Arrogant, condescending, lazy and thinks the world owes you something. I bet you drive a Mercedes and look down on all the poor fools that you see going to work everyday. And if people don’t agree with you—-they are racist. You know the truth—it is white people that are keeping your lazy fat a* up—-and you hate them for it.
What a f*** up world we live in. You will get your just desserts in the end my dear.
By GOPs got to go
June 22, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
dirty white boy, You make me wish I was Black.
Go clock in at your Environmental Service job, hang on to the back of your truck and continue to get dirty all day.
By Dirty white boy
June 22, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
Dear GOP,
Is that the best you got—lame, come on take a better shot than that or are you a typical democratic p***.
By Dirty white boy
June 22, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Hey GOP got to go,
Gotcha!!! You were so easy. Think man, think.
By Fintago
June 22, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this
When New Orleans flooded, it was a “racist plan to wipe out black people”.
Now that white people are getting flooded, out, we need to investigate.
Who?
I heard a dimwit on Fox yesterday say that this reminded him of New Orleans .
How? Outside of being flooded, there is no looting,
No people wandering the streets getting into meanness,
No grocery carts being shoved through the water carrying stolen big screen TVs,
No people sitting on the tops of their houses waiting on the government to come and get them
No police abandoning their posts,
No Iowans barking how the government and George Bush is failing them.
There is not one darn thing, other than water, that is similar to New Orleans .
The streets in Des Moines are empty.
People left when they were told to evacuate.
They didn’t whine, gripe, and blame the government for the broken levees.
They did what responsible people do in a crisis.
The actions of the people of Des Moines only makes the actions of the people of New Orleans look worse!!
.AMEN
By Tony
June 23, 2008 7:12 AM | Link to this
nomccain:
Clinton had a DEMOCRATIC Congress the first two years in office and he got absolutely NOTHING accomplished except to get the Repubs a landslide victory in 1998. Hell, he couldn’t even get all his Democrat “labor friendly” people on board to pass the “Striker Replacement Bill” that would have protected the jobs of thousands of Americans. “Hillarycare” almost destroyed the Democrats. Look at the elections of 1998, Repubs took 46 seats in the house and a majority in the Senate. As I said, if Obama stays in the center, he’ll do OK, but if he goes to the left, he’ll set his party back years. Clinton, after his party lost the house and senate in ‘98 learned how to govern from the center, which is where most Americans are anyway and became an effective President. If Obama does this from the get-go he will be effective as Clinton. If he is a radical he will be another one-termer like Jimmy Carter.
By Frederick Douglass
June 23, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Let’s see, white people work harder than everyone else, they’re patriotic as all get out, they don’t loot or steal, best damn parents on earth, devout to a fault, just a determined scrappy lot. You know I envision heaven as being lily white——sigh.