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DEL.ICIO.USSo, Hillary as veep?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
It’s now pretty clear that it’s over, and that Hillary Clinton will, in some form or fashion, acknowledge that reality tonight. A series of prominent Clinton backers have come out to pass that message along to her in public, just in case she was having second thoughts about stringing it out any longer.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, for example, said on CNN today that “a decision has to be made about whether keeping this nomination wide open is in the best interest of winning in November. I do not believe that it is, and I’m a very strong supporter of Hillary being placed on ticket as a vice presidential candidate.”
AP is also reporting that in a private conference call today among supporters, Clinton said she would be open to running as vice president if it would help the party’s prospects in November.
So that’s the next question. I have a lot of respect for Clinton’s intelligence and tenacity, and believe she would have been a very good candidate for president and a very good president as well. And certainly, putting her on the ticket would go a long way toward healing some wounds within the Democratic Party.
But if I’m Barack Obama, I want a vice president who is the second banana and knows it. If there are headlines to be made, I want to be the one making them. I want a veep who is content to serve quietly in my administration unless and until something tragic happens to force her to step forward.
It would take a lot of convincing to make me think Hillary Clinton could be and wants to be that person.
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By Elen
June 3, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this
Edwards for VP is the best choice. Hillary is no choice. Had she won, one can be certain that Sen. Obama would not have been the VP candidate. Feinstein and all the other Clintonites had no good words to say of the Senator…I don’t think they should have a say as to his VP.
By alan
June 3, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this
Nooooo !!! The Clintons have tooo much baggage….and the Republicans are all too ready to dig them up !!
My pick ? Jim Webb of VA — A true Southern American hero !!!
We will have to redefine a newer, fresher and vibrant children of America in the Democratic party!!!!
Alan
By Vern Smith
June 3, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
Quite frankly, I think she would be of more value and efficacy in the Senate. Obama would be better served by a VP choice that fills gaps, such as real foreign relations experience, like Biden or Nunn. And there are other women who would be excellent and would lack Clinton’s baggage, such as Governors Kathleen Sebelius and Janet Napolitano. Clinton has the potential to be Senate Majority leader and to complement Obama as a powerful partner to shepherd key legislation to get this country back on path!
By Roger Deem
June 3, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this
Republican ads featuring Hillary saying McCain is better suited to be president is all the image one needs to know that the Veep job MUST go to someone else. She burned her bridge and needs to do a MacArthur and just fade away.
By DWG
June 3, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this
Not sure that she has enough hope or change or look to the futurism for Obama. We need solutions in this country, not fluff. Unfortunately neither party nor candidate is willing to do anything.
By Political Foreskin
June 3, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this
Edwards is not a good VP choice. He’s Kerry-fied. No, I think Hillary can convince Obama that she can play second fiddle because her reward is 16 years in the white house, come on people. What a prize.
Hillary is no fool. SHe didn’t burn the house down. Instead she’s elevated women, and America.
Obama/Clinton: A dream team for the ages.
By Up here in Ellijay
June 3, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this
As a life long republican, I will be casting my vote for Obama this fall - that is unless he chooses Hillary. She has said too much, done too much, and brings too much bad blood to this entire situation. Would you want to have her and Bill standing over your shoulder for the next 4 years pointing out how they would do things?
By Scott
June 3, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this
Yep, unless Obama has to worry about appeasing Clinton’s voter base, he probably would not choose her. And hey, Edwards? Talk about the empty suit ticket. But, whoever the Anointed One chooses, I look forward to our new Socialist Overlords.
Really.
And congratulations on the blog, Jay. I almost never agree with you. But I admire that you are putting it out there with a way for us amateurs to duke it out.
I really, really hope that you are Thought Leader of my group when the reeducation camps open and I am “rounded up”.
By Brison
June 3, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this
Hill NO!
By blondshag
June 3, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this
Hillary Rodham Clinton is the greatest campaigner in American History!
Hillary Rodham Clinton is the BETTER of the two candidate to produce the Democratic Presidential WIN for America!
Hillary Rodham Clinton is electability!
Superdelegates just don’t get it. It’s All About Electability!
Barack Hussein Obama does not use his real name and Obama wife is very negative, both attended a negative ‘Anti-America’ church for 20 years with Rev. Wright shouthing ‘HATE AMERICA’ ‘HATE WHITES’, etc. Also, Rev. Pfleger is very negative was well.
Barack Hussein Obama does not relate with the ‘working-class’ no matter how much Obama’s wife tells about her hardships paying for this and that. Who in the world would believe Obama’s wife and her money issues? NO ONE…..neither Barack Hussein Obama nor his negative wife relate to the ‘working-class’…simple and true.
GO HILLARY!! GO ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION!! GO ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE!! GO HILLARY!!
HILLARY—RUN AS AN ‘INDEPENDENT’!! Got your Back!! Lot of voters feel the same.
IT’S TIME FOR HILLARY TO STEP-UP AND RUN ‘INDEPENDENT’ FOR WOMEN, WORKING-CLASS, AND OTHERS THAT DO NOT IDENTIFY WITH BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA OR OBAMA’S WIFE.
GO HILLARY!!! ‘INDEPENDENT’!!!
By Chelsea
June 3, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this
My mommy is the best choice for the DP nominee. I have tirelessly campaigned for my mommy while visiting many, many colleges and universities. My mommy is smart and Michelle is not. My daddy is smart and Barack is not. I am smart and you are not, Jay. We are all Clintons and we are entitled and that’s why my mommy will win this nomination and then the office of the president of the USA. My daddy said so and daddy never, ever lies about anything!! Go, mommy, GO!!!!
By Racebaiter
June 3, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this
Hilarious opinions from far left nuts on here. Shows you guys have no clue. Obama doesn’t stand a chance because he’s too far left. Edwards would make it worse. He can’t justify any of his “solutions”. “Change” is a just a cool word. It’s McGovern all over again. I predict Obama will get 30% of the popular vote.
We’ll witness the demise of the Democratic Party when it can’t even beat the Republicans after an unpopular Republican President’s term. I’m enjoying sitting back and watching.
By Bob
June 3, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this
BIG MISTAKE!
Hillary would be second-guessing Obama every step of the way while pushing her own agendas and Bubba would be fighting for the lime-light in between chasing interns around the Whitehouse grounds!
Hillary, the Queen of Spin and a Legend in Her Own Mind!
http://klintons.com
By Racebaiter
June 3, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this
Wow, Carter’s backing Obama. Who could have seen that coming? A far left (pea)nut backing up a far left nut.
By Condoleezza
June 3, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this
Bob,
You hit the nail on the head!!! That is exactly why Obama will not seriously extend an offer to that douche bag to be his VP. For political reasons I would expect that Barack would make a public statement that he would invite that egotistical beeyhotch to be his VP with the understanding that the douche bag would decline the offer. Watch and learn - they hate each other with a passion. I am eating this up as the democratic (actually, socialist) party implodes.
By DaveD
June 3, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this
Racebaiter…. just watch…you are SO CLUELESS as to how much the GOP is hated (even by those that voted “IDIOT” in the last two elections). It only shows that you’re still stuck in GA “time”…as the rest of the world has moved on. “Your” kind has done nothing but ruin EVERYTHING…from our economy to our very standing in the world (that includes the economy)… OUR GDP is now almost half of what Russia, China, and India’s are. Our dollar is worthless… Oil was $27 a barrel when the “bubble boy” took the keys to the white house…look at it now. Blmae it on whatever you want…make up “news” as “facts” you hear from Rush, Bonehead (Boortz) or Faux… This country will take generations to fix what YOU did by voting for the bubble boy…We are no longer super power…we will never be one again…that’s OK..all empires die… he just moved our timeline up by 20 or so years.
Guess what Mr. Bubble boy voter? Gays are STILL GAY!!! ABORTION is STILL legal!!! and your kind…only lives in “backwards” states like GA. Last in education… it shows in how you cast your votes. Step aside and let the “man” come through…. ;-)
By GOPs got to go
June 3, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this
Obama/ Clinton ticket will win. The two should come together. How can he unite this country if he can not get over a slightly ugly primary? Talk about overbearing VPs what about the “Dick” we have now?
By Snafu
June 3, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this
ENOUGH WITH THESE SORRY CLINTONS. If Obama is smart that douche will not even be a choice. I certainly would not vote at all if that crab is on the ticket. She is a liability with all the baggage that she and slick Willie carry, the Republicans would have a field day. There are more qualified candidates than these bunch of trailer trash. Get rid of these pricks.
Obama will pick up more supporters if he picks Bloomberg, Sebelius or even Casey. But will lost big time with that scum on the ticket.
After all that crap about McCain being a better president, she wants the VP slot, the only ticket she should be getting is the one straight to jail with her sleaze husband. She is a republican with stupid ideals and she has no platform. She certainly would not offer the VP spot to Obama.
I HOPE OBAMA HAS THE COMMON SENSE TO SEND HER PACKING AND HOPE NY WILL DO THE SAME TO BOTH OF THE CLINTONS. GOOD RIDDANCE, JUST LIKE THE BUSHES. ENOUGH, ENOUGH, ENOUGH OF THESE CROOKS AND CRIMINALS!
By ATLborn
June 3, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this
Blondshag - U think Michelle Obama didn’t grow up with money issues?? Then obviously you don’t know much about the impoverished southside of Chicago area where she grew up.
Today’s a great day for Obama. He will wrap up the democratic nomination tonight and march on to the presidecy later this year. All the negative talk on here about how he can’t win just shows how afraid some of you all are that Obama is going to mop the floor with old man McCain.
As far as Hillary as his VP, I hope he doesn’t feel the need to choose her. She’s done far too much damage for them to coexist on the ticket and I don’t think she’ll be content playing her role as a traditional VP. She’d try her best to act as the co-president instead of vice.
By GOPs got to go
June 3, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this
Yeah DaveD, but Idiots are still Idiots too. Obama/Clinton might be able to salvage something of the mess BB made.
By Doug
June 3, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this
Easy answer—Bill Richardson of NM. Loyal, talented, smart, tough, and loyal.
Oops, did I say loyal twice? Well, I meant to. Unfortunately, it’s not a word that comes immediately to mind when discussing the Clintons.
By Chris
June 3, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this
All of you Obama Bin Laden supporters need help! Have you not seen (in your own back yard) what happens when you put black people in charge? Clayton County Schools, Atlanta budget, Mayor Franklin, Mayor Campbell, Atlanta Police Chief, Grady, etc. THEY CAN’T BE LEADERS! Why do you think you VERY RARELY see black CEO’s, Presidents, etc? No worries though, white America will never let this monkey boy win.
By Racebaiter
June 3, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this
Hey DaveD. Know who Americans hate more than Republicans? Far left loons like yourself. You’ll never get power. Mark my words. How do I know? I don’t represent the far right. I’ve never listened to Rush. Most people are like me. The Dems have lost again. I’m pro-choice, but gay marriage will never happen.
By Malcolm
June 3, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this
I voted for McCain in the Primary and plan to vote for him in the General, so I write this as an astute observer, I DO NOT understand HOW, under ANY circumstances whatsoever he would even consider all of the STEAMTRUNK baggage that would bring, so much for any critique on lobbyists, change, new blood, not to mention the drama of her having been first lady, still with her own twisted agenda, a former President, with the morals of an alley cat and I honestly dont believe he would choose her on the advice of one of his most ardent supporters, Sen. Claire McCaskill, it was reported, in print, so if it is in error, its not my original, that Hillary was livid that McCaskill had made the statement that she didnt want Bill anywhere near her daughters, its sad that someone with such gutter moral fibre is parading around as a former President of these great United States, God Bless America, McCain, Jendel, 2008!!!!
By Gunner
June 3, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this
Bill doesn’t even want her why would Obama?
By tyger
June 3, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this
Hell No! Hillary Must Go!
The infighting, backstabbing and dirty pool would be overwhelming, they are a dysfunctional couple now and would be in November as well.
Can you imagine Obama trying to get something done, with Hillary on the phone to the NY Times the second he turns his back and Bill down in the kitchen screwing the staff!
C’mon lets be real, she fought hard and long and lost.
Now lets focus on getting American back on its feet, rather than Iraq and Israel, for a change.
By MarkC
June 3, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this
Bill Richardson would be my choice. He has the resume and would solidify the Latino vote that just may be the deciding factor this November. Talk about watching a bunch of rednecks squirm. Imagine a black president and a Latino VP. (Are you slithering around out there somewhere D.A. King, Chip Rogers, et al?) And by the way Jay. I once wrote you begging you to get a blog of your own. Thank you. Now all those Woo-ten Klanners don’t have exclusive ownership of the bully pulpit.
By Snafu
June 3, 2008 8:13 PM | Link to this
Chris,
The only monkey around seems to be you dragging your knuckles like the racist prick you are. Here you go trying to stereotype, people could say the same about GW Bush and company, twice over. The last time I looked it was whites in charge of this country, foreclosures, jobs going overseas, factories closing, high rate of unemployment, hiring illegal immigrants and then trying to make excuses saying they are taking jobs no one wants, GDP, all time low, Deficit in the billions, people without healthcare and yet you want to blame a black man who is not in office. The last time I looked since the being of this country it has been whites at the helm..change is good at times.
Maybe if you stopped looking at the skincolor and look the policies and the issues you will see that the economy effects all of us, lack of healthcare, unemployment affects all it does not discriminate. So knuckledragger its not about white or black America is about humanity, oh, wait you have to have cognitive and relative thinking skills to comprehend that one. Anywho!
People will ensure he wins, trolls will just cringe in dispair. Humanity trumps stupidity.
By James C.
June 3, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this
By Chris
June 3, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this
All of you Obama Bin Laden supporters need help! Have you not seen (in your own back yard) what happens when you put black people in charge? Clayton County Schools, Atlanta budget, Mayor Franklin, Mayor Campbell, Atlanta Police Chief, Grady, etc. THEY CAN’T BE LEADERS! Why do you think you VERY RARELY see black CEO’s, Presidents, etc? No worries though, white America will never let this monkey boy win.
Hey moron! Look what this country got from chimpboy Bush and Dick “the devil” Cheney.
By Mike
June 3, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this
In light of Clinton’s being open to become VP, I’d like to announce that I am hereby open to becoming general manager of the Atlanta Falcons. I’ll expect your call shortly, Mr. Blank.
By Hey James
June 3, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this
James, I don’t see Bush getting fired, arrested, stealing, etc either. Moron.
By Jay Bookman
June 3, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this
Hi Folks:
Under ordinary circumstances, I would pull that comment from “Chris” off the blog, for obvious reasons. But tonight I’m going to leave it there as a shining example of just why this night is so historic. In fact, I’m tempted to blow it up into huge type just so everyone can see clearly what ignorance looks like.
Good, sincere, smart Americans will vote for John McCain this fall because they believe he is the better candidate. Great. But the nomination of Barack Obama as president of the United States is a well-deserved rebuke to people such as our friend Chris.
By Johnny
June 3, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this
Dave! That was a funny blog. Although the things Chris said are true, it was still funny. Oh, by the way, MLK cheated on his wife twice. Nice role model!
By MarkC
June 3, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this
Hey Chris! Jay just put a well deserved smackdown on your redneck butt.
By Clarity requested
June 3, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this
yet I’m still at a loss to see what qualifies Obama to be our next President…someone please clarify this for me. What has he done? What experience does he have in any domestic or foreign policy issues? Has he been responsible for any policy or legislative issue that matter? etc…..
By Hook, line, and sinker
June 3, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this
Jay, you took Chris’s bait hook, line, and sinker….
By GW
June 3, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this
By Hey James
June 3, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this
James, I don’t see Bush getting fired, arrested, stealing, etc either. Moron.
And your point is….?
By Frederick Douglass
June 3, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this
Heaven help us if McCain’s elected. Let’s go about the business of preparing our kids, grandkids, and quite possibly great-grandkids, for the altar of war. I just hope many of you remember you had a choice, Mack’s not a good option.
By GW
June 3, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this
I second the Bill Richardson VP choice. Just for you Chris. Imagine this. A Black president and a Mexican VP. Welcome to redneck hell Chris. Ain’t America great folks?
By Monica Lewinsky
June 3, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this
Please let Bill come back to the Oval office. Good times.
By David
June 3, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this
I cant believe this woman. she is scraping for a White House address, anything she can do, switching sides & eating up her own words faster than…its not just her, it will be Team clinton. now that RFK episode really can take off. Obama do not be a lame duck president. do not pick her.
By fledawg
June 3, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this
If I were Obama, there is no way I would have Hitlary as my VP. She wants to be president so bad that she would probably have a hit man take him out.
By ByteMan
June 3, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this
VP Guess: either Bill Richardson or Jim Webb from Virginia. Won’t be Hillary for exactly why you said, Jay. Too much of a distraction and ambition that will get in the way of a smooth-running campaign. She will definitely get a prominent place at the convention, but not on the ticket.
By blondshag
June 3, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this
Is John McCain for the safety of All American people?
Is John McCain for getting America Back On Track with Opportunities for All People?
Is John McCain for promoting sure methods of putting job back in the job market?
Is John McCain for getting the gas prices back down so America can get on the highways, air plains and personal vehicles back out and running in full-force to jobs, college and to very strong security of All American People?
Is John McCain for our military to assure a strong military, address the military needs such as medical, education, and pay increase, etc.?
Is John McCain for increasing education program to continue the education of students and to develop skills of unskilled due to the job market change?
Is John McCain for getting medical needs addressed for American’s without medical health care-those without money or health care to help with obtaining medications that are required for many daily?
Is John McCain for getting current programs such as Energy Program to assist with light bills and energy cost of elder, needy, and disable — on a more effective operating system so the same people are not the ones receiveing services year after year and more money is provided to assist this vital program?
Is John McCain for improving the bridges and highways — to assist in etablishing more jobs for the jobless while getting vital needs provided for the states in need of these services within the USA?
Is John McCain for finally being fair to the female work force? So far, it has not happened.
Is John McCain for addressing the drug problems and the drug runners?
Is John McCain for finally addressing the borders? Making all people be accounted for with coming to the USA and leaving the USA?
Is John McCain for united America back together?
Is there anyway the John McCain can reach out and get Hillary Rodham Clinton to run as Vice President? Can parties truly work together? Is it workable? If so, what a running ticket!
John McCain-President Hillary Rodham Clinton-Vice President
By Joe
June 3, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
Who cares. McCain will easily win here in Georgia as well as all the states Bush won in 04’. He may actaully pick up Michigan. The dems have put up a weak candidate and I think by November the voters will know this. Although the so called main stream media will be cheerleading for Obama he can’t hide the fact he doesn’t have any experience and has far left radical ties…..
By Snafu
June 3, 2008 9:21 PM | Link to this
Darn, those deer in the headlights they just cannot seem to want to move the closer you get, that is what the republicans are feeling, getting hit while they stare at the light.
John McCain, cannot articulate his position on the economy because the idiot said on National TV he did not know about the economy. SO how is it that he will help the American people out of anything. He platform is WAR, WAR, WAR, and riding the coattails of “I’m a war veteran”. That line is as old as John, give it a rest. He was elected just like John Lewis on his rhetoric of service. Other than that they have done little or nothing within their own communities or state.
McWAR is considered picking Bobby Jindal as a VP, now the rednecks will surely slither up and around the rocks. So what do you think about that? McWAR HAS NO PLATFORM AND NEVER WILL. Is that the best you can pull from the Republican camp?
Maybe Billary needs to go back to her party..THE REPUBLICANs, after all we know she only came to the Democrat side when she realize that Republicans would not allow a woman to run for the senate. Now what! She is a cloaked Republican and she showed it during this campaign. Send her packing and offer her nothing.
By Alex
June 3, 2008 9:21 PM | Link to this
Does blondshag have WAY too much time on their hands? Loser.
By jbean3
June 3, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this
Clinton as VP is a no-go. She has been negative throughout the campaign and would second guess Obama every step.
Obama should look into asking one of the govenors from Ohio, Pennsylvania, or any other blue collar state so he can win those voters over.
Maybe he can consider Clinton in a Cabinet seat, but I am not sure. Also, the Democratic party needs to unite NOW and stand behind our nominee. It is the only way to NOT have another 4 years of Bush policies and economics under McCain.
By avie
June 3, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this
I’m sorry, but does anyone else have a problem electing a president whose middle name is Hussein?
Please Hillary, run as Indapendent!
By Shannon, M.Div.
June 3, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this
If he doesn’t pick Clinton as VP, then he’d darn well better pick a woman for his running mate. His was not the only historic candidacy this year, and some of us are downright bitter—not so much at him, but at his “followers.” It’s not bitterness that she lost but bitterness at how the media, Obamaniacs, and others used misogynistic language to decry her bid. To his credit, Obama rarely (although not never) participated.
What does Obama have in common with Jesus? The man’s okay, but his followers are scary.
By Meredith
June 3, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this
John McCain is the luckiest presidential candidate in American history.
By Meredith
June 3, 2008 9:46 PM | Link to this
John McCain is the luckiest presidential candidate in American history.
By Snafu
June 3, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this
avie,
Apparently your stupid azz have not been paying attention but take note idiot: alot of people DO NOT have a problem. Its just stupid people like you who think a person can pick their name before birth that have the problem. Obama did not name himself his mother and father did, so get over it. How dumb can you be? Wait don’t answer that.
I guess you failed to research the criminal Clintons. Try researching the Clinton Chronicles. You must be one of those feminist who vote only on gender not issues. Needs some cheese with that WHINE!
By Ms. Tucker If Ur Nasty
June 3, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this
Hmm, it’s “Curious how McCain doesn’t want to be seen with George”.
By get over it
June 3, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this
I don’t want her tainted by the arrogant racist male chauvinist that is Nobama!
By No Clinton Please
June 3, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this
Boy there sure are some ignorant people on this site. Get over it! Obama is the choice. Now, if he chooses Billary, I personally will NOT vote for him. I’m Republican, and if Bill/Hill is the VP, I will stay home on voting day. For the idiots who think Blacks have ruined this country, are Blacks in charge now? Remember Enron, Worldcom, Bear Stearns, Iraq, HomeBanc? Obviously you do not read or understand what you read. Gosh, Red Necks and Racist sure are ignorant, and they are all around us. Your next generation of children will be raised to be as ignorant as you, huh? That is exactly why you life in trailers and spit out snuff! Clinton types of people. Vote on!
By Ms. Tucker If Ur Nasty
June 3, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this
Avie I had a problem with a blithering ignoramus running this country for the last eight years,but I had to live with it though. Read my lips, I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T, I have a problem with bad spellers also.
By AL
June 3, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this
If Obama picks Clinton for VP the his chances of winning in November go from very slim to none. I agree McCain is the luckiest guy since Grant. He will sail into the Whitehouse. Despite the Media and Hollywood and so-called Academia. DONE DEAL !!and the funny part Democrats don’t even realize the wekest candidate won.
By Redneck
June 3, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this
Jay that was darn white of you to leave Chris’s post up and surprising also.
If the people on this forum want to know where we are headed if we elect commies like Clinton or Obama they only have to look at what the court did to Bridgette Bardot in France or how that great promoter of freedom, Hugo Chavez, in Venezuela is asking his citizens to snitch on their neighbors if they say anything negative about the government.
Yep, darn white of you Jay, and I do appreciate it!!!
By kenneth smith
June 3, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! At the start I were a Clinton supporter, Not anymore she remain me of my son when let lost a race in a track meet at an young age to a old runner. He cry and complained for days how will she carry on like this.
By GOPs got to go
June 3, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this
Chris and Racebaiter need to take there bigot, redneck views back over to Jim’s blog where they belong. Please keep your crazies under your own roof. Let them rant their racist crap somewhere else.
I still say Obama/Clinton will carry the election. Before he started trying to win over the Right “Christians” I actually admired and liked McCain. Now, not so much. Democrats, loose the party splitting talk and keep your eyes on the prize. For once let’s do as the kooks do and stay united as a voting block.
By Shamrock
June 3, 2008 10:36 PM | Link to this
McCain just won!! Let’s put him in the White House immediately so he can get America back on track.
By CJ
June 3, 2008 10:36 PM | Link to this
I love it, the last and most played out vestige of the left - disagree and the “racist” moniker comes out. Tell me Mr. GOP, how many African Americans live next door to you? How many Mexican Americans? Would you roll your eyes if they looked into buying, or give me the other stock answer of “well, if they can afford to live here…” Trust me schmuck, Barbra Streisand lives with the lilly whites and calling yourself a liberal while you look elsewhere for the disenfranchised is all you are about. Bill’s eight years in office and you need Obamam for change? Where were the accomplishments of the Clinton’s?
By GOPs got to go
June 3, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this
I think that 8 years of Ken Star trying to make a non-existent case on the Clinton’s was quite enough thank you. How much of taxpayer money was wasted on that fiasco? Well, on second though what’s a few million in the Iraq days, maybe 2 hours of war debt?
By Jay Bookman
June 3, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this
Boy, Redneck, I haven’t heard that phrase in a long time. Not long enough, anyway.
But you just tossed another shovelful of dirt on your own political casket.
By GOPs got to go
June 3, 2008 10:39 PM | Link to this
I think that 8 years of Ken Star trying to make a non-existent case on the Clinton’s was quite enough thank you. How much of taxpayer money was wasted on that fiasco? Well, on second thought whats a few million in the Iraq days, maybe 2 hours of war debt?
By Redneck
June 3, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this
Jay, mighty white of you to leave Chris’s post.
If you supporters of Obama and Clinton want want to know where those two commies will take us you have to look no further than France where Briget Bardot was convicted of a crime for saying that the Muslims were destroying her country. You might also look at that great promoter of freedom, Hugo Chavez, who today asked all citizens to report any neighbor that made disparaging remarks toward the government.
Yep, mighty white of you Jay and wonder how long our freedom of speech will be allowed when the commies are in control!!!
By GOPs got to go
June 3, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this
CJ, LOL, what an Idiot you are. Please send me Mexican and Black neighbors over scary right wingers like you any day of the week.
By Cy Brown
June 3, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this
Absolutely not! I want Obama to go down completely on his own this November and send a clear message to the Kool-Aid- drinking idiots who are supporting him that this is still a nation that is just not ready for a closet Marxist, Racist and Muslim! Hillary does not need to be associated with this sinking ship….heaven forbid if he’s elected, he’ll take the rest of us down with him…..
By GOPs got to go
June 3, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this
Cj,
Glad to know your so well acquainted with Barbra Streisand neighbors. What about Bill Cosby’s neighbors? Or Will Smith’s neighbors? Would they want to live next to you? I doubt it.
By Allan
June 3, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this
From Jay’s comments about Scott McClellan’s book on the “misrepresentations” by Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld, Jay needs to read the companion book by Melody Beattie “Codependent No More.”
What Jay (and McClellan) do NOT seem to understand is that when an alcoholic (like George Bush) stops drinking, it doesn’t change his alcoholic mentality in that he still thinks that he is always right (regardless of evidence) and he can’t understand the difference between his “interpretation” and lying.
Much like Gail Sheehy’s observation that former Presidential Candidate Gary Hart was a “flake,” someone needs to do a psycho-political analysis of “George W. Bush, The Alcoholic Politician” and its companion volume “Bill Clinton, The Alcoholic Politician.”
And speaking of Cheney’s two DUI’s in college….
We have had alcoholics and their enablers running this country for at least 15 years and it is time to end that stupidity.
I have finished Obama’s first book and am halfway through the second. No one puts thoughts like his in writing if they are a hypocrite. Instead I am stunned at his wisdom and eloquence. It is obvious to me that the “Cool-Aid” that Obama opponents claim his supporters are drinking is based upon those opponents’ illiteracy from not having read Obama’s book(s) or their blind bias.
By Craig
June 3, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this
I would have been in favor of Hillary as VP before tonight. But her speech tonight was classless. Time for her to go.
And yeah redneck I do have a black guy as a neighbor, and I’d much rather have him than an inbred moron like you.
By Abe
June 3, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this
Blondshag,
Buy a dictionary. Purchase a thesaurus. Practice good diction. Study subject-verb agreement. Discover the wonders of English as a second language.
Then, study the U.S. Constitution. Learn to be independent from government. Nobody owes you anything. Self-sufficiency is virtuous and meaningful.
Oh, here’s one you can add next time:
“Is John McCain for a Chrysler 300 with twenty-fours?”
By GOPs got to go
June 3, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this
You know I think I have more of a problem with grown men going by the name of “Scooter” than someone naming their child Hussain. After all, there are more Muslim people on this planet than WASPs. Hussain is like their version of John. But let’s all condemn a name because it is not OUR norm you Billy Bobs and Bobby Joes.
By Abe
June 3, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this
For the knucklehead who said the GDP of the U.S. is half that of Russia (and other countries): Do you know what GDP is? At $13+ trillion, the GDP of the USA is more than 7 times that of Russia.
That’s why Democrats can’t be trusted with the economy. They don’t understand it.
By Watch Out
June 3, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this
If Hillary is the Vice-President, look for the Headline “Nation Mourns President Obama”, within two months…
By GOPs got to go
June 3, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this
CY,
The hole was blasted in this “sinking” ship by George,Dick,and Donald.
Maybe George can plug the leak with one of his un-used golf balls.
Hmmm, the economy was in great shape 8 years ago. The only one drinking Kool-aid around here is the fools who do not see what the problem is and has been for the last 8 years.
By Abe
June 3, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this
Obama should choose Max Cleland as his running mate. Democrats tout his military prowess—so why isn’t he mentioned as a potential VP?
By Abe
June 3, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this
Does Allan believe that Dick Cheney is running for re-election?
Since you’re reading Barry O’s books and seem fixated on [even non-candidates’] consumption of intoxicating substances, have you gotten to the part about Obama’s drug [pot and cocaine, or as he wrote “maybe a little blow”] use? Does it move you to not vote for Obamessiah, or do you have a double standard.
No need to reply. I know the answer. But thanks for playing.
By GOPs got to go
June 3, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this
I think I might vote for a McCain/Clinton ticket too.
By Conscious
June 3, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this
Clinton would make an extraordinary VP and it would signal a unified Democratic Party that would easily carry the electoral college in November.
Obama-Clinton 2008 is the team to beat!
By Allan
June 3, 2008 11:29 PM | Link to this
Dear Abe The Idiot/Bigot,
Obama stopped the experimentation as a teenager because he realized the inherent stupidity and lack of discipline it created.
Bush continued drinking as an “adult.”
You obviously haven’t read “Barry O’s” book or you would realize how much of a “moral conservative” he is.
Read The Book. Obama is the most morally responsibile President (or at least Presidential candidate) since Eisenhower.
By Winner
June 4, 2008 12:03 AM | Link to this
The one sure way for Obama to lose is for him to place Hilary on the ticket as VP. That would galvanize the GOP base and disgruntled DEM to vote for McCain. Such ticket would be a “dream” alright, a dream for the GOP.
By Bobby G.
June 4, 2008 12:05 AM | Link to this
When did the economy tank? When the left wing democrat congress took power. When did oil futures begin their uphill spiral? When the left wing democrat congress took power. When will Oblama ask Clinton to be his VP candidate? When hell freezes over. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hill&Bill actually privately campaign against Obamski, so when he loses, she can give a big “I told you so” to the party in two years when this nonsense starts all over again. Remember, these are the single most ruthless politicians of the last 50 years, and they will stop at nothing to get what they want. But what Billery doesn’t realize is that whoever wins in November will be lock for a two-term presidency, as the economy will turn around in 2010 and they will get all the credit.
O’Bama is in a totally no-win situation when it comes to the Clintons. He really is screwed.
By Vince Foster
June 4, 2008 12:11 AM | Link to this
Select her as VP and you will always have to sleep with one eye open, and always watching your back -do otherwise would be deadly —believe me I know!
By Up here in Ellijay
June 4, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this
After the speeches tonight, I have to say, there was only 1 future president that spoke. He spoke of us as Americans, ALL of US! Obama will unify our country once again.
Putting Hillary on the ticket will do only one thing - it will unify the republican base to vote against her! She is hated, as unbelievable as is may seem, more so that McCain among the republicans.
McCain won the nomination because the base of the party was split up among the other 3 candidates on the ticket and the independants who crossed over.
You people can’t see the nominee for the politicians! Put your egos in check and vote for what’s best for the country as a whole instead of your little corner. That’s what being an American in all about first and foremost.
By Dang Vince
June 4, 2008 12:32 AM | Link to this
I agree that having a Clinton behind you is dangerous for a man OR a woman. I would recommend to Sen. Obama to stay as far away from the Clintons as possible.
I used to lean to the left but now that I’m a “responsible” adult with kids I can’t stand what the extreme liberals and environmentalists are doing to this country. The fact is we need to be less dependent on foreign oil in this country. We need to make it easier to drill at home and drill now. The dems putting big oil on trial earlier this month is just another example of their positioning themselves to pander to the uneducated voter. Their motto is “deceive now - get votes now”. Big oil makes a profit because of supply and demand and basic market value of their product. Other economies are booming and can afford to pay more for oil. Democratic leaders want you to believe that asking the oil companies to not make a profit will eliminate the issue. The only way to make things better with our economy is to drill for oil at home now. Until the American people are educated on this we will remain in our downward spiral. I just wish there was a republican I had faith in. The dems are all fluff with no substance. The republicans are too caught up with special interests.
By Redneck
June 4, 2008 12:48 AM | Link to this
Jay, how was I throwing another shovel of dirt on my political casket? After all your party is the one that is nominating a flaming red while you could have chosen Hillary who is only a pinko.
The way I see it this time we have one democrat, McCain and two commies, Obama and Hillary!!!
By newsman
June 4, 2008 6:57 AM | Link to this
Call me a racist (I’m not)but why in the world would we want the most liberal Senator in the Senate as our Prez? What major legislation has he sponsored? How has this “uniter” “reached across the aisle” to get things done? Look at his so called friends…hate filled preachers, American left wing terrorist, etc. We are judged by the company we keep. A president Obama will only hasten this country downward spiral.
By DaveD
June 4, 2008 7:03 AM | Link to this
ABE… I was talking about the GPD “percentage” of growth…not the dollar amounts. Ours grew at slightly over 3% and the other countries I mentioned above had growth of between 6% and 7%. Like a true “talking head” it is always the GOP that spins numbers in their favor. Our economy is slowing and barely even crawling at this point. Russia, China, and India’s economies are at a nice steady run…up hill and still climbing.
Try this one day: READ!!!!
If you did, you’d know that Obama is the ONLY hope left for this country. Or after 7 1/2 years of Bubble Boy Bush and co… the empty shell is all that’s left of it. They gave away our surplus and left us so far in debt, that we’re going to be digging out for generations. Yet every day they dig that hole a bit deeper.
More of the same you say? No way. I’m not a betting man, but I WOULD bet all I own on this election. The whole “gay marriage and abortion” thing does not come into play any longer. Bubble Boy got lots of votes from those that voted on those two issues, yet gays still have sex, new gays are born every day, and your little teens that you don’t teach about birth control can STILL get abortions!
Obama 08 because we need ALL the gays and abortion providers happy…most of all the gay abortion doctors and nurses! YAY! ;-)
PS: I’ve never seen the “talibangelicals” so fearful of a candidate in my life. I’m having FUN watching you all squirm. The debates are going to be “pricless” as McCain can NOT speak. Compare HIS speach last night to Obama’s and you’ll see why Obama has the job already handed to him…
Keep squirming…. (you like like you’re sitting next to two guys making out…haha)!
By cynthia
June 4, 2008 7:04 AM | Link to this
hillary supporters are angry over how she was treated for months now. She basically tied him and neither could secure the nom without SD’s. Yet, since early march people within the DNC began to call for her to quit the race, this went on until the end. And I wont even get started on the sexism issue!! Many of us, myself included will vote for McCain before ever voting for Bambi, the DNC have to learn a lesson, they no longer want core democrats. As Donna Brazile herself put it when speaking on CNN with Paul Begala “the new democratic party is more urban” Ok, we can just vote mccain, maybe you will want us back in 2012 when Hillary can run again after your your next failed attempt at the whitehouse………mondale,kerry, kennedy, dean……..i rest my case!
mccain08 hillary2012
w w w democrats-against-obama.org
w w w writehillaryin.com
By John Ellison
June 4, 2008 7:12 AM | Link to this
Hillary Clinton reminds me of the character Glenn Close played in “Fatal Attraction”.
By Mitchel Haralson
June 4, 2008 7:23 AM | Link to this
The rules don’t apply to Hillary, she showed that in Florida and Mich. and now she is not supporting the primary winner, so why would anyone expect this selfish ego to be a team player. She would covertly work against Obama rather than work with him.
By Wild Bill Hiltner
June 4, 2008 7:42 AM | Link to this
The democrat party is all about identity politicals anyway, so it makes sense to put Hillary on the ticket - its not like the Dalai Obama has any good ideas anyway. He can giove her health care reform to screw up again.
By Leon
June 4, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this
Some of you people on this sight is just plain “STUPID” wake up. Obama will not be the President unless he picks Hillary as his Vice President. Wake up people. The only reason he won is because of all the “BLACK VOTER” who by the way have probably never voteds before in their life. If he had not been running Hillary would have gotten those votes and she would have been the next “PRESIDENT” again wake up America. He only won because of all the black votes not all American votes. He stole her time and he should have waited then run in four years but he got selfish and without Hillary by his side it will come back to hurt his chances and then we will be back in the “BUSH” years all over again. Way to go Obama another four years of hell with the McCain and Bushes. Maybe McCain should pick Bush to be his Vice President because if he gets in nothing going to change and neither one of them will have to work hard because America is already a mess. I will give Obama my vote and pray that you have enough sense to pick Hillary as your Vice President not Edwards and hope that we can keep McCain out of the white house. I’m from Georgia and I think that all the rest of you people from Georgia who hate Hillary should vote for McCain because you are just as stupid as he is and Obama does not need your vote. GO OBAMA/HILLARY ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE.
By kd
June 4, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this
The reason our country is struggling is because of the incessent obsession with our particulary party and the blind faith of it. Part of the problem is that generally speaking, party followers assume that everything that they party believes is correct. Any person who believes that they have all of the answers is inevitably wrong. The logic that, “If I vote [insert party here], then the country will be saved because everything my party says in the absolute correct thing to do”, is simply obtuse and part of the problem. Since you ask, I am a moderate. That doesn’t make me a “flip flopper” because situations change and sometimes, I find that I was mistaken (GASP!!). Right now, Conservatives are trying to sell that their party is the only “moral” one and that you can’t be a Christian if you aren’t one. I can’t even begin to explain how ludicrous this is….and Republicans with sense should be ashamed of their party for it. Republicans should be ashamed of calling Barak a terrorist- simply because of the horrible connotation of that. It is the same religious conservatives that preach morality that call a US Senator a murder. Democrats should be ashamed for assuming all conservatives are just like GWB and that they have no sympathy for people or our county. If you read closely, you’ll see that the problems in our county don’t stem from people who can think independently, it comes for extremists who poison the mind of the general public by clouding issues, insisting on party loyalty for the sake of party loyalty and can’t possibly be wrong about anything at any point. Relax, take a deep breath and think about why your opposite party MIGHT be right about an issue. If you think about what your opinion ISN’T, you might learn more about other people, you might realize that there MAY be a better way, you might learn about compromise, and if you still think you are right, you might learn more about why you believe in your own argument. Whatever you do, don’t vote by party because ultimately, no politician you vote for has any real relation to the problems of they average American citizen. Voting strictly by party affiliation perpetuates a vicious cycle.
By Copyleft
June 4, 2008 7:55 AM | Link to this
Edwards has already said he doens’t want to be VP, and I agree with him.
He’ll be much more effective as Attorney General in President Obama’s administration.
By Copyleft
June 4, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this
P.S. Good post, KD. Pretending that all party conflicts amount to “good vs. evil” is a simpleminded, and dangerously STUPID, way to think.
We may be disgusted with the opposing party’s leadership, but remember that some of that same corruption dwells within our own… and that not every Registered Enemy is 100% in line with the bad stuff their party proposes.
We’re all Americans, folks, and we all want what’s best for America. Some of us just need to quit listening to talk radio and remember that fact.
By Hillary Girl
June 4, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this
Agreed, Cynthia @ 7:04am. At first I wanted Hillary as VP nominee, but I am thinking about changing my mind. Let Barak fail while McCain wins this time ‘round and have Hillary come storming back in 2012. The DNC has gotten too big for its britches, screwing Florida and Michigan like they did. Who the heck do they think they are, refusing to count folks’ votes!?! Unfortunately, Hillary was crucified under both their and the media gun for months without end. Yeah, we got it, Obama’s your golden boy, but you’re gonna get it in November.
It’s amazing to me how the DNC can so utterly and callously screw large segments of the voting population over and then have the balls to tell us Clinton supporters we’re “bullheaded and for us to come together for the sake of the party!” SCREW THAT!!! Pay back’s a b——! You think Hillary Clinton scorched the earth? Just wait until November, DNC! You’re gonna see what scorched earth really looks like!!! McCain in 2008 - Hillary in 2012!!!
By Coatesmoe
June 4, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
This is a great idea putting Hillary in to the 2nd position to slow down any improvements. She is clearly defeated and every one wants to take her and Bill and move them back into the lime light where then the entire nation can concern itself with Bill Clintons business deals and which woman is he now abusing. Some how the American voter is always getting the last piece of the cake when everything is being served. I would think that Obama due to his performance is able to make a decision as to who will support him. Maybe this is the second best show compared to American Idol!
By Cane
June 4, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this
I might vote for Obama but not if Hillary is his running mate. I will vote never vote for Hillary. Never ever!
By Bea
June 4, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
I think she should be added to the ticket. Even though She has caused a lot of bad feelings that people are not soon to forget. After reading all the comments made so far I think there should be a call for order and only Hillary can ask her supporters to do so for the sake of the party. Dare I ask Can’t we all just get along? Please!
By HA
June 4, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
Obama would have never won if the media would have shown his past in the very beginning. It was truly a win for Republicans that Hilary lost, becuase she was the stronger candidate. The Democrats would be smart to add her to the ticket, but seriously, Democrat and smart do not go together. McCain will win easily now.
By Warning
June 4, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
If Obama asks Hillary to be his running mate, he better hire a food taster.
By circular
June 4, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
DaveD, Abe absolutely called you on your GDP error and you are too full of yourself to admit it. You said GDP, not rate of growth of GDP. And I don’t know where you studied economics, but less developed economies had better grow at faster rates than the most developed (U.S.) or they will remain in a world of hurt. Idiot.
By Melis99
June 4, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
I vote Edwards for VP!!!!
By RITA
June 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
I LIKE THAT COMMENTS SOMEONE MADE ABOUT THEIR SON. YES I AGREED WITH HER WHEN MY CHILDREN ARE OUT BEATEN IN A GAME OR SPORT THEY CRY, BECOME REBELLIOUS AND A SORE LOOSER! THAT IS WHAT HILLIARY REMIND ME OF A SPOILED CHILD THAT CAN’T HAVE HER WAY! FOR GOD SAKE OBAMA DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT PICK HER AS YOUR RUNNING MATE!! THERE HAS GOT TO BE SOMEONE ELSE YOU GET TO BE A RUNNING MATE WITH YOU. I THINK YOU SHOULD PICK HILLIARY AS A JUDGE ON THE SUPREME COURT, SECRETARY OF STATE, OR SOME OTHER OFFICE IN YOUR ADMINISTRATION, BUT NOT LIVING WITH YOU AND MICHELE FOR 4YEARS IN THE WHITE HOUSE! I BELIEVE YOU WILL COME TO REGRET IT!! I AM PRAYING FOR YOU NOT TO MAKE SUCH A HUGH MISTAKE!! SENATOR IT IS VERY OBVIOUS TO US THE PEOPLE OF THESE UNITED STATES THAT SHE IS NOT YOUR TYPE IN ANY SENSE!!
By GatorBoyV
June 4, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
NEWS FLASH!!! whites voted and obviously like Obama too!!!I keep hearing about this “BLACK VOTE”….this is utterly stupid. There was no major black vote that swung to Obama! lol…thats ridiculous!Oh yeah, those huge black populations in UT, HI,and all those other states….Blacks are what 10% of the country! If people vote for McCain because of hate for Obama….8 more years of the same CRAP!!Don`t make this mistake 3 times in a row!!
By 24cents
June 4, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
Here’s a reason to put Hillary on the ticket… She won at least half of the popular vote, and was still winning primaries on the last day! If Obama is the uniter he styles himself, why can’t he accomodate the half of his party that voted for her?
By tyger
June 4, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
Are Republicans evil or just plain stupid or both???
The American people are being enslaved by Big Oil,Wall St.,Israel and Saudi Arabia and the GOP is promoting it.
July 4, 2008: gas is $5 gallon - we’ll rename it: Independence Day…Not.
The GOP keeps telling us that Iraq is the most important thing in the world - “we’ll never surrender”.
Meanwhile, Americans will continue to lose their jobs and lifestyles by the thousands.
No jobs, no gas, no housing, no healthcare, no education, no social security, no honest government.
Yet, we’re told - “its hard work, its not easy, a democratic Iraq will solve our problems.”
Hell no, invading another country and stealing its natural resources aint as easy as it used to be. Duh??
Thank God for Obama, we havent had any real intelligence in that White House in eight long years!!!
How long must Israel dicate our foreign policy, how many Americans must die for Israel, havent we done enough?
How about giving hard working Americans a break for four to eight years, we’re tired…
By The Other Ellijay Demo
June 5, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
Obama/Edwards is the winning ticket ! Edwards represents the true Southern marginalized voter. Together they represent a refreshing clean sweep of Washington. Clinton can be appeased with a Cabinet position. I hear the distant rumbling from the right….