Jay Bookman

By ByteMan

June 1, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

Perhaps she’s hoping for the “RFK Solution” that she mentioned earlier in the week. If she doesn’t give up, a lone wacko puts her back in the game. The other D candidates who quit earlier can’t say the same thing… and if she quits now, she won’t be able to either without a lot of arm twisting.

By hillbilly ragger

June 2, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this

Unlike most, I tend to take her at her word. She said she was going to stay in this and fight, and she did. Now she says she’s mulling over whether it’s worth making a stink with the Rules committee and, effectively, leading to a floor fight in Denver.

Will she really do that, and make a mess of her party’s otherwise excellent chances to beat McCain in November? Maybe. If I had to bet, though, I’d think she probably won’t. But I also think that almost any excuse to muck things up—a minor mis-step by Obama, for example—will be seen by Hillary Clinton as a sign from God to carry on and give us a repeat of Chicago 1968.

Obviously, I’d rather that

a) all the supers weigh in today, or better yet, yesterday (ok, I’ll take tomorrow or Wed.), and clinch it for Obama now and end this nonsense; and

b) have Senator Clinton finally wise up and realize that this just wasn’t her nomination after all.

I bear her no ill will, really, at this point, but if she insists on taking the fight to the convention I will.

By hillbilly ragger

June 2, 2008 7:46 AM | Link to this

Oh, and excellent takedown of the stupid Linder/Boortz FairTax in today’s dead-tree edition. Thanks for keeping this cult’s feet to the fire—it’s fun to hear them squeal, although it’s also kind of sad to see Linder continue to get re-elected by people who don’t realize how badly he’s screwing them.

By CJ

June 2, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

I have the same nagging feeling that Bookman does. Somehow, I don’t think enough super delegate commitments to give Obama the magic number are going to sway Clinton, since the supers don’t actually cast their votes until they get to the convention.

I’m applying a bit of pop-psychology here, but I suspect her real purpose now is to undermine the legitimacy of Obama’s near-definite nomination so he’ll lose in November. Consistent with this theory is the fact that she’s currently advertising her “we won the popular vote” nonsense which, if true, could only be possible because, by removing his name from the Michigan ballot, Obama honored the Four State Pledge that they both signed while Clinton broke it (notice the word “participate” in the Pledge and listen carefully for the word “participate” in this NPR interview of Clinton at around the 2:40 mark).

By Red Foreman

June 2, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Will someone explain a “half vote”? This DNC dribble is why they cant swing many of the middle ground voters over. Looks to me like they are attempting to polish a turd.

I can’t wait for the convention…and the election…

By George Washington

June 2, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

The way to defeat the Hillary Hags at the Convention is to limit all openings into the convention center to 18 inches in width….The Fat old Bats will not be able to git in the door….also us the old chairs that are only 18 inches in width, the Fat old hags buts are at least 36 inches wide, and growing daily….

By George Washington

June 2, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

A half vote is appropriate for Florida, considering ALL their citizens are HALF WITS….Especially at the Universyt of Florida…Dumb reptiles….

By R U Kidding

June 2, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Who cares?

By rdbtwthlins

June 2, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Obviously the voters will is secondary to the DNC. Proud to say I’m not a part of that…

By RealityKing

June 2, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

If Obama wins in November, Hillary’s presidential ambitions are over. And She can’t let that happen to the American people now can she?

God I love those selfless liberals..

By Jack ATL

June 2, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

For the average Joe Sixpack, think folks are just glad this elongated ‘DNC ruled’ marathon is about to finally come to an end. The Clintons can only blame themselves for the situation they now find themselves. Hillary grossly underestimated Obama, and grossly overestimated herself. She failed to plan a coherent theme that would be received by the population; she failed to develop a caucus strategy; she failed to have a plan beyond Feb 5, 2008; and she failed to attract the dollars required to run an extended campaign. But the biggest error of the campaign was probably the use of ‘Bill’. His pitches “all about him”; his uncontrolled anger; his race baiting in South Carolina; and his overall arrogance and self importance TURNED PEOPLE OFF!

Kind of doubt that she will openly take her fight to the convention, but if I were Obama, would keep my distance from both of the Clintons — especially Bill’s posse of ‘good ol boys’. Think Hillary will do all kinds of undercover tricks to defeat Obama in November.

No doubt she will start her 2012 campaign on November 5. But she would be very wise to shed Slick Willie — if she wants a chance of getting a future nomination! (Who knows — Vanity Fair may be right, and that old dude may have had numerous ‘bimbo eruptions’ all over the campaign trail this past year!

By Copyleft

June 2, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Hillary may continue to fight it, but President Obama will straighten it out.

And Foreman: is the concept of “half” really too tough for you? It’s about what’s left of our economy thanks to the Bush regime. It’s also how the party’s primary rules are set up to deal with rule-breakers… they’re penalized.

Odd concept, I know—especially since the word “accountability” has been all-but-invisible the past seven years….

By Fido

June 2, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Since the Democrats took over Congress things have gone to * in a hand basket. The economy has tanked, the government is at a standstill and nothing is getting done. We can’t handle any more of the Democrats.

The only positive that has occured is the war in Iraq has been won despite the Democrats declaring our defeat.

Obama nor Clinton will win, most folks who think for themselves know that the Democratic party is bad for America.

By ###

June 2, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Fido, talk about a myopic view of the world. In case you aren’t aware of the current political situation in the USA, a majority of Governors are Democrats and both houses of Congress are controlled by the Democrats. Perhaps you just think that most Americans don’t think for themselves.

By jakesdad

June 2, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

personally I hope she does - not because I support her (nothing could be further from the truth) but because the more she demonstrates her willingness to go “scorched earth” the more even the most diehard Clinton kool-aid drinkers (Jay?) take their head out of the sand and see her for what she is. she can no longer WIN the nomination (that hasn’t been possible for some time) - she can only STEAL it by parliamentary coup and if she tries (quite likely) and fails then Obama doesn’t even have to offer her the VP slot. if she doesn’t try it you can rest assured that’s why, not principle…

By candide

June 2, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

Obama and Hillary are both wasting their time. Neither can be elected president. Blacks will for good reason not vote for Hillary and white women will not vote for a black male in whom consciously or subconsiously they see the rapist of their fear/fantasy. Why didn’t Democratic leaders head these two loser off at the pass? I don’t know; they must be wondering this as well.

By rc

June 2, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

Jay, you will lie when the truth would sound better. You know nothing about the fair tax. Your whole editorial was flawed with incorrect jibberish!

By DH

June 2, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

I think the Democrats want the Clintons out of the picture so badly they’ll toss out this election to have them removed, out of the picture. What else can explain their infatuation with a man who for all practical purposes is sinking at the time he should be gaining momentum. Hillary has a much better shot at cutting into the same voting base (white males and now women)of McCain, more than Obama ever will. There must be some serious hate against the Clintons in the Democratic party, very serious. Removing yourself some twenty years and hundreds of sermons later from a church will only show the good folks who vote that you’ll do any and every thing you need to do to get elected. I am sure before Obama made claim that he left the church, this time for good, lots of backdoor phone calls were made by his people explaining why such a move had to take place. He is still cozy in that church, very cozy….don’t let the mans departure fool you.

By marilyn

June 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

I think Obama has made a conscious decision not to spend a lot of money in the last remaining primaries. I think that’s smart. The campaign is over and most people are looking ahead to the general election. Obama will win in November - once people hear him and understand his message he’ll be o.k. There’s a big difference between him and McCain, and even those hardcore Hiillary supporters will see that and vote for Obama in November. The church issue is a non issue. Most of us are concerned about the economy, health care, and the war. Someone needs to explain to me how concentrating on where someone went to church puts food on the table, gas in the tank, or pays the medical bills.

By marilyn

June 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

I think Obama has made a conscious decision not to spend a lot of money in the last remaining primaries. I think that’s smart. The campaign is over and most people are looking ahead to the general election. Obama will win in November - once people hear him and understand his message he’ll be o.k. There’s a big difference between him and McCain, and even those hardcore Hiillary supporters will see that and vote for Obama in November. The church issue is a non issue. Most of us are concerned about the economy, health care, and the war. Someone needs to explain to me how concentrating on where someone went to church puts food on the table, gas in the tank, or pays the medical bills.

By marilyn

June 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

I think Obama has made a conscious decision not to spend a lot of money in the last remaining primaries. I think that’s smart. The campaign is over and most people are looking ahead to the general election. Obama will win in November - once people hear him and understand his message he’ll be o.k. There’s a big difference between him and McCain, and even those hardcore Hiillary supporters will see that and vote for Obama in November. The church issue is a non issue. Most of us are concerned about the economy, health care, and the war. Someone needs to explain to me how concentrating on where someone went to church puts food on the table, gas in the tank, or pays the medical bills.

By marilyn

June 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

I think Obama has made a conscious decision not to spend a lot of money in the last remaining primaries. I think that’s smart. The campaign is over and most people are looking ahead to the general election. Obama will win in November - once people hear him and understand his message he’ll be o.k. There’s a big difference between him and McCain, and even those hardcore Hiillary supporters will see that and vote for Obama in November. The church issue is a non issue. Most of us are concerned about the economy, health care, and the war. Someone needs to explain to me how concentrating on where someone went to church puts food on the table, gas in the tank, or pays the medical bills.

By Copyleft

June 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

We won’t, DH… and we won’t let your protestations about hating Obama “only because of his church” fool us, either.

You were looking for an excuse to vote against our next Democratic president, and Rush gave you one.

By marilyn

June 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

I think Obama has made a conscious decision not to spend a lot of money in the last remaining primaries. I think that’s smart. The campaign is over and most people are looking ahead to the general election. Obama will win in November - once people hear him and understand his message he’ll be o.k. There’s a big difference between him and McCain, and even those hardcore Hiillary supporters will see that and vote for Obama in November. The church issue is a non issue. Most of us are concerned about the economy, health care, and the war. Someone needs to explain to me how concentrating on where someone went to church puts food on the table, gas in the tank, or pays the medical bills.

By marilyn

June 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

I think Obama has made a conscious decision not to spend a lot of money in the last remaining primaries. I think that’s smart. The campaign is over and most people are looking ahead to the general election. Obama will win in November - once people hear him and understand his message he’ll be o.k. There’s a big difference between him and McCain, and even those hardcore Hiillary supporters will see that and vote for Obama in November. The church issue is a non issue. Most of us are concerned about the economy, health care, and the war. Someone needs to explain to me how concentrating on where someone went to church puts food on the table, gas in the tank, or pays the medical bills.

By marilyn

June 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

I think Obama has made a conscious decision not to spend a lot of money in the last remaining primaries. I think that’s smart. The campaign is over and most people are looking ahead to the general election. Obama will win in November - once people hear him and understand his message he’ll be o.k. There’s a big difference between him and McCain, and even those hardcore Hiillary supporters will see that and vote for Obama in November. The church issue is a non issue. Most of us are concerned about the economy, health care, and the war. Someone needs to explain to me how concentrating on where someone went to church puts food on the table, gas in the tank, or pays the medical bills.

By marilyn

June 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

I think Obama has made a conscious decision not to spend a lot of money in the last remaining primaries. I think that’s smart. The campaign is over and most people are looking ahead to the general election. Obama will win in November - once people hear him and understand his message he’ll be o.k. There’s a big difference between him and McCain, and even those hardcore Hiillary supporters will see that and vote for Obama in November. The church issue is a non issue. Most of us are concerned about the economy, health care, and the war. Someone needs to explain to me how concentrating on where someone went to church puts food on the table, gas in the tank, or pays the medical bills.

By marilyn

June 2, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

I think Obama has made a conscious decision not to spend a lot of money in the last remaining primaries. I think that’s smart. The campaign is over and most people are looking ahead to the general election. Obama will win in November - once people hear him and understand his message he’ll be o.k. There’s a big difference between him and McCain, and even those hardcore Hiillary supporters will see that and vote for Obama in November. The church issue is a non issue. Most of us are concerned about the economy, health care, and the war. Someone needs to explain to me how concentrating on where someone went to church puts food on the table, gas in the tank, or pays the medical bills.

By Chuck

June 2, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

I think we get your point marilyn.

By BuckheadBill

June 2, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

Marilyn, I’m glad you’re an Obama mad clicker. I hope you don’t do that at the polls.

By Don!

June 2, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this

I still think the media gave Obama a ‘free pass’ until recently.

I wonder how the election would have had a different tone if newspapers published stories like the Chicago Tribune did this week back in January.

From the Chicago Tribune article:

“The day after New Year’s 1996, operatives for Barack Obama filed into a barren hearing room of the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners. There they began the tedious process of challenging hundreds of signatures on the nominating petitions of state Sen. Alice Palmer, the longtime progressive activist from the city’s South Side. And they kept challenging petitions until every one of Obama’s four Democratic primary rivals was forced off the ballot.”

That doesn’t sound like a person looking for real change, it sounds like someone trying to manipulate the system — much as Obama is accusing Hillary of now.

If he had been properly vetted before Super Tuesday, this election would have been an easy Democratic Party win for Hillary.

As it is, I’m a conservative Democrat who will be voting for McCain in the fall if Obama is nominated. McCain is a Reagan Democrat in Republican clothing.

Obama is a great orator, and people latch on to his candidacy as an attempt to force change. However, if you look closely at his background — there’s very few accomplishments to go with his words.

I like Obama’s message — but I don’t see him as having the capability to accomplish much based on his past record. And the more I see of his past record — the more I think he’s good at making speeches, but not at actually accomplishing the change he preaches.

Later,

Don!

By Carolina

June 2, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this

Does anyone else have Clinton fatigue? Do we really need a Clinton dynasty? Wasn’t one Clinton enough?

What about being a gracious loser?

By votechange08

June 3, 2008 12:06 AM | Link to this

to me it is simply amazing that people seem to enjoy discredited Barack as inexperienced or whatever. but excuse if i am incorrect but didnt he just win the nomination from someone EVERYONE thought was a shoe in to win? HELLO not only did this junior Sentor from the South side of Chicago defeat the Clinton machine by using a different kind of presidential campaign but it seems as if his campaign was better ran, managed, funded and simply prepared than thte Clintons.

If i were Hillary i to would fight to and nail for something i thought and believe so deeply that 15-16 months ago was mine to lose…but not to a vitual unknown

By Damn the Man

June 3, 2008 6:22 AM | Link to this

Way to keep debunking the FAIRytaleTAX Jay. Though you’ll never convince the cultists that they’ll end up paying more under this tax scam. They’re like 5 year olds that insist “one plus one is tree.”

By mark

June 3, 2008 6:58 AM | Link to this

Very Strange Democratic Primary season..First the Michigan Florida mess , then all you hear about rest of the time are Super Delegates..where have I been , never seen these people do much in past…they could have saved a ton of money time for canidates and the voters to have voted for us since thats what it seems they are going to do.The Democratic party is a mess, Why did those citizens in Florida and Michigan go vote if they were not going to be heard..Im very confused and I don’t see how I could cast my vote for a party that doesn’t even couint the votes from 2 giant states and all you hear about is Super Delegates…and yes OBama with a answer to everything…and he being so Super couldn’t even make a good choice on what church to go to for 20 years..Oh Well John McCain you lucked out..it will be a hard 4 years.

By Copyleft

June 3, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

Oh, I think McCain will do just fine under President Obama for the next four years. So will this country.