Jay Bookman

By sue

May 23, 2008 7:06 AM | Link to this

Clinton is shooting for 2012 and the Supers, the gutless cowards that they are, sit on their hands and LET HER!

ENOUGH!

By Scott D

May 23, 2008 7:14 AM | Link to this

Hillary is inspirational. Despite all the false and unreasonable attacks from MSM, DNC, Obama campaign, and traitor-supporters, Clinton is pushing on where others would be in a state of nervous exhaustion. She is surely qualified to be president and is the best person for the job. The race is a dead heat and yet Hillary has been asked to drop our since Iowa. Her supporters, like myself, will definitely crossover to McCain in Nov. if she is not the nominee!

By Pat

May 23, 2008 7:24 AM | Link to this

Supporters like Scott have no moral compass. They’d be willing to deliver the whole country to 4 more years of “faux Bush” and a McCain-appointed Supreme Court,just because they have a bruised ego. BHO has his flaws, but he’s never tried to trade on Hillary’s gender to his own advantage. She can’t say the same about race. HRC’s most rabid backers can’t face the truth - that she ran a bad campaign strategy - and that its her own behavior that has turned off many former fans (I was a huge fan of hers for years).

By Charles

May 23, 2008 7:42 AM | Link to this

Hey, Scott & Pat: It’s great to see you Dems caught in your trap of identity politics and crazy, Marxist type primary rules. Both BHO & HRC would be disasters for the country. All signs indicate that the coming election is yours to lose and. as usual, you Dems will find a way to do so. Thank god!

By djools

May 23, 2008 7:44 AM | Link to this

I absolutely agree. She has taken the dems hostage and she should not get away with that.

By Charles

May 23, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this

How can Hillary’s fight for the Florida and Michigan delegates hurt Bill’s legacy of a lying, deceitful, adulterous, philandering hypocrite?

As far as being an egotistical megalomaniac, Hillary has proven that many years ago. Some may say it started with the “co-Presidency” statement and the Travelgate ordeal - I think it started many, many years ago with her ‘marriage of convenience’ to Bill.

I’m just glad she’s tearing the Democrap Party in two - thank you Rush Limbaugh for organizing Operation Chaos!

By GOPs got to go

May 23, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this

Alright fellow Dems, We can not allow the voting block to divide up like this. BOTH candidates are trying to win. It is not personal, it is business. DO NOT LISTEN to the onslaught of negativity out there. Stick to NPR where facts are the talk of the day. Just turn it off or flip the channel. Let the GOPs get crazy all by themselves. Let them bad mouth McCain and vote for Barr. You know that we can live with either Democratic nominee before we can live with 4 more years of morons running the country.

By candide

May 23, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

The antics of the Clintons, before, during and after their White House terms have always been destructive of morality, legality, and all the rest we prise. They need to retire somewhere and keep out of sight.

By Average Female Voter

May 23, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

If Hillary is not offered the VP slot then it will prove to Hillary supporters that the DNC and Democratic elite were against her all along. I will vote for Nader if Hillary isn’t the VP. A McCain presidency doesn’t scare me. With a Democratic Congress we won’t see a Conservative Supreme Court or anything else that the DNC claims. If the Dems are so against Bush, why didn’t they impeach him?

By Clay

May 23, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

I am not a Clinton supporter; but, yes, the votes and delegates from both Michigan and Florida need to be counted. It’s not the fault of the citizens of those states that their primaries were bumped up to too early in the year. I believe the Equal Protection clause of the US Constitution should be invoked and the delegates should be seated.

By Gottabkiddin

May 23, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this

It must be nice to be Jay Bookman and never have to worry about being consistent. Why are you so surprised a democrat candidate is acting like a democrat? Do not pretend that Obama would not do the exact same thing. Democrats have a history of only wanting the people voting for them to vote and trying to suppress those who don’t. I actually respect the Clintons more today than ever before. They do not change. You know exactly who they are.

I wouldn’t worry about Bob Barr. The fruitcake factor will keep him from being an issue.

By GA_Tiger Fan

May 23, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this

WOW, the is the first time I agree with anything J.Bookman said. I don’t know whether to be happy or scared.

The Clintons are lying crooks…period!

By Political Junkie

May 23, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this

Remember. There is nothing like a woman scorned let alone a nation of women scorned. Beware of Hillary Supporters in November!

By Gordon

May 23, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this

Clinton isn’t destroying the legacy built with her husband, she is confirming it. For the Clintons, it has always been about the Clintons and nothing else. Even liberals are starting to see that now.

Why can’t you Democrats put up a halfway decent candidate? Someone serious like a Sam Nunn. I am a conservative, and I want to see Republicans punished this November for acting like Democrats, but you’re going to blow it.

By John_Lai

May 23, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this

Anyone makes speculation is irresponsible. We are not the candidate. Asking someone giving up himself/herself for a party is very selfish; specially the undemocratic democratic party.

Go Hillary, raise hell to the party. The only way to clean up a rotten party is from within. Your supporters is going with you. You will be a historical heroine taking on the rotten party.

By Clay

May 23, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

The Democrats in Congress don’t impeach Bush because Bush hasn’t committed a crime. Clinton was impeached for perjury before a Federal Grand Jury. He wasn’t convicted in the Senate; but, he was convicted in court and is now a disbarred convicted felon.

By Alberto D.

May 23, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

Do you really think Hillary would be pushing this “count all the votes” argument if it were Georgia and North Carolina instead of Florida and Michigan? No way Jose! Hillary (and her political partner, Bill) have never cared about anything other than obtaining and maintaining political power. The idea of fairness is always looked through their “does it benefit our quest for power” lens.

By Prmat

May 23, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

Pat you are so right. I simply do not understand the rationale of voting for McCain if Clinton is not the nominee and vice-versa.

Stop voting with your emotions- leave that to the republicans. Vote using your rational and critical thinking skills. We all know that Obama and Clinton are very similar.

Clinton lost my support after she her campain turned negative. HOWEVER, if by some miracle, she becomes the nominee I would vote for her. After this administration, I would never vote for anyone who has similar policies like Bush. I am using my rational and critical thinkng skills in making this decision not my emotions (gay marriage anyone?).

By Betty

May 23, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

All I hear is that BO has never done or said anything wrong no matter what BS he has done as much under habded crap as the rest We as a people need to take off the rose colored glasses and see him and his wife for what they are BO used the senate floor to attack McCain yet all that is reported is that McCain attacked BO for not serving his country By the way any one ever ask BO why he never joined any military branch Certainly being such a server he would have at least joined the guard back then? The dnc has done nothing but crap on the Clintons as far as I am concerned they owe the dnc nothing their star runner BO is a ticking time bomb and when he blows the dnc will have to clean up their own mess I hope the Clintons refuse to aide them in the mess when in happens I tend to beleive the buzz about the whitey tape that is said to be out there starring MO Sure to be a winner for MCCain yet the media will say its the Clintons fault because they dont want to look stupid for having had been on their knees for BO all this time Funny how he says MO was attacked with snippits just like he said Jerry was attacked with snippits and both were taken out of context lmao

By ThaMan

May 23, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

“Destroy the legacy she built with her husband?” What are you talking about? Legacy? We don’t want that kind of legacy.

By joe

May 23, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

It the Dems lose in November it will be because they allowed the weaker candidate to be nominated. BO is no where near as qualified as Clinton for this office, and I do mean Hillary, not Bill. Bill would never have made it to President if not for Hillary. He is charismatic, but she is the powerhouse. We will likely see the same with MO given time. Anyone with half a brain would not drop out of a race as close as this has been all along. And it is true, BO got a pass. He would not have made it past Iowa if voters knew then what they know now about him.

By Todd Gatts

May 23, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

I agree with the sensible people on this forum who point out that the Republican’s only interest in this discussion is to turn Democrats against each other.

I suggest you do as I do: assume that every white woman on any forum who rants that we are stealing her legacy is actually an old, scared, male Republican masquerading on the Internet. The same is true for every black man yelling how it’s their turn.

When you see a polarizing white woman or black man on a forum, you should imagine Rush Limbaugh at a keyboard giggling. And then you should ignore him.

Truth be told, this is an embarrassment of riches. Come November, I will either proudly vote for the first woman president or the first black president. How great is that?!

DO NOT LET REPUBLICANS DISTRACT YOU!

We are privileged to belong the big tent party. We are going to change this country. The future will be better than the past, and we will be part of the reason why its better.

By JJ

May 23, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

I’m confused. I thought that extreme ego and selfishness was the legacy she built with her husband.

By Fix-It

May 23, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

It is time, we need more than one party, did I say one, I meant 2, I think. How about Liberals, Democrats, Republicans and Conservatives, this would be interesting during elections.

By radioman

May 23, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

When it happens it will confirm that the Clintons are only about what is good for them. She wants two issues dealt with: her position as VP and who is paying back her loans. The Right can only hope she wins something. Then we can really start bashing her.

By EDRA

May 23, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

From a distance, it appears she is putting on a “hissy fit”. I agree with article. Hillary’s best move is to settle for VP on Obama’s ticket, then go for what she wants in 2016. Only then will she have the experience she claims today. I am a long time Republican who will vote Democrat this year unless Hillary is the nominee.

By cnbless

May 23, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

It is so sad the desperation of the Clinton Campaign. How is it that Hilary wants to change the rules of the game that she agreed too because she is not winning the now. What type of example is that for young people? What she is saying is if the rules are not in your favor, then try to get them changed so they can be in you favor. It really is sad. As far a legacy. What legacy? A leagacy of lies, deceit ,selfishness and w*******. Who wants that legacy.

Hilary get over yourself and help unify this party. I hate that the voters in Florida and Michigan are being punished. However, the rule were agreed to by Obama and Hilary. Obama wasn’t even on the ballad in Michigan. How is it that Michigan votes should be counted when he was not on the ballad. It is not fair. And it sends a bad message. Those who decided to have these primaries early made a bad decision. Obama and Hilary knew it up front. Now she wants to change it. Hilary get over yourself. This kind of behavior lacks respect. It just shows you are a bad sport.

By Evelyn

May 23, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

Hillary’s arguments are so intellectually dishonest, how would anyone really trust anything she would say in the future. I agree with her proposed policies, just can’t trust her with our future.

By macca

May 23, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

For Scott D @714 and the rest of you who threaten to sit it out or crossover to McLame - you cannot be serious!! John McCain plans to continue, and perhaps even accelerate, George W. Bush’s conservative counter-revolution at the Supreme Court. This may be the single, gravest threat of a McCain presidency. If you stay home, or worse, vote for McCain, you guarantee a U.S. Supreme Court that will take away everything gained over the last 50 years.

By Hester

May 23, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

NO ONE except the democrat voters in Florida and Michigan should have decided to move up the primary dates. South carolina was not stripped of their degelates due to moving up their primary. WHY?? because south Carolina has a higher black registered voter count over conservatives or whites. AND Yes the dnc needs to listen to the voters of Fla, and mi or it will show up on the republican side in November. THE DNC needs to throw out ALL the old rules and come up with new rules , maybe like the ones the republicans have as they have controlled the white house , senate, and congress and governorship more than democrats have in the past 100 years. They seem to have their party together.

By DK

May 23, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

Hey Jay,

I don’t remember what stance you took back in Nov 2000 when it came to counting votes in Florida? Would you care to enlighten us? Don’t trouble yourself as I’m sure every Obama supporter that made a public pronouncement in 2000 that every Florida vote should count will have their words thrown at them ad nauseam.

The Democrat Party blew it when they decided not to seat Florida and Michigan delegates. I know a number of Floridia Democrats that are steamed at the party because of this. The Democrats should have halved (which I believe their rules called for till last year) Florida’s and Michigan’s delegates. What a colossal blunder it was to exclude the states votes entirely; especially Florida. Winning Florida is key to winning the White House. If they lose, they can thank their awful decision not to allow Florida and Michigan votes to count. Also, seating delegates that reflect anything other than the will of these states, as expressed by their primary votes, will have no conciliatory effect.

By Tisch

May 23, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Hillary Clinton cannot change the rules in the middle of the game just because she’s losing. Barack Obama is leading in states won, popular votes, and delegates. Even if the Florida and Michigan votes would be counted, Clinton would still would not be guaranteed the Democratic nomination. Put the shoe on the other foot. If Obama was trailing in the race and wanted those two states to be counted, then Clinton would certainly be opposed to that. Florida and Michigan violated Democratic party rules by voting early, therefore being stripped of their delegates. It is not right to let them count just because Clinton is losing and needs the delegate numbers. She needs to think up a different strategy and get over it.

By rulessupporter

May 23, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

Ok, so last year the DNC voted that if you have your primary dates before a certain point then your delegates will not be seated at the convention. Rules are rules, they’re meant to be followed and not broken. If those states didn’t want to live by the rules then they’ll have to live with the consequences.

By Brian

May 23, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

Hillary has as many supporters as Obama, and they are as strongly passionate about her as his are about him. She knows that her candidacy would be as historically important, if not more, than his, and she does not want to let her supporters down. Many of the people I know who support Hillary feel that she has been excoriated by the media, and not given a fair chance. She is consistently better prepared, thinks faster on her feet, and would be a much better candidate against John McCain. I feel if she doesn’t take this fight to the convention, she is letting down the millions of people who have voted for her. When you know you are right, it’s hard to back down. I hope to God people come to their senses. Barack is wrong for this country, now or in eight years. He runs as a uniter, but has been totally divisive. He has used reverse racist tactics, and blamed the racism on the Clintons, who have worked their entire life to make it possible for his campaign to have even happened. He says that white people voting for Clinton is a sign of racism, but I have to ask, what about the 90 odd percent of blacks who have voted for him? What is that? This guy is really unbelievable, and we have fallen for his hard sell, hook, line, and sinker. I am really afraid for our country.

By jumped ship

May 23, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

By Clay May 23, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this The Democrats in Congress don’t impeach Bush because Bush hasn’t committed a crime. Clinton was impeached for perjury before a Federal Grand Jury. He wasn’t convicted in the Senate; but, he was convicted in court and is now a disbarred convicted felon.

Could you possibly be even more of a delusional neo-con? Bush cannot be impeached for lying to a Grand Jury because he CONVENIENTLY refuses to SIT FOR ONE!!! How many time has W been called to testify before a Senate Committee only to be allowed to decline? 9/11 Commission RING A F-ING BELL??

As for the issue at hand, No other major candidates names were on the ballot in Michigan so how was the contest fair? As For Florida we all know the history that state has of deciding elections clearly against the will of the people so the decision that the DNC made in that state to hold their primary ENTIRELY too early FALLS ON THEM!!! I am sad that the voters in that state will NOT have their voice heard but at least in the case of Florida for ONCE the boot is on the other f-ing stanking foot!!!!

By Don S

May 23, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

Obama lost my vote when he waged his sexist and racist campaign accusing the Clintons of being racist.(Give me a break!) Then he played the race card with Ferraro. In Obama’s world, if you are white and not voting for him you are a racist. I don’t plan to be a part of this racism. Black racism is no prettier than white racism. This Democrat will not vote for Obama in November.

By Chase Goff

May 23, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

Sir:

Hillary cares nothing about America otherthan what she and Bill can get from it. I support Obama however if he selects her as a vice president I will not vote for him.

By Scott D

May 23, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Pat:

You know nothing of my “moral compass” and is typical of the Fox News style method the Democrats have adopted and why so many Dems are jumping ship for McCain,

McCain is the best candidate for president if Hillary does not get the nomination.

McCain has ALWAYS been very popular with the Democrats for sometime since he is moderate/bipartisan. Kerry wanted McCain as DEMOCRATIC veep in 2004! McCain is certainly better than an inexperienced, unproven, and probably corrupt obama.

I read “Dreams of my Father” this week and he’s very average, angry and confused….and I did not get a sense of his supposed intellect that Obama-Cultists like you talk about all the time. Sure he comes across as attractive and likable but that is not a reason to elect a president

I suggest you look at your own moral compass before attacking others. The fact is that many Clinton supporter will cross over to the next best candidate… that is as moral as you can get!

By nina

May 23, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

I feel for Hilary but It’s so typical for the American mainstream democrats “what to call themselves” liberals… If you don’t want to fit into their box, they call you names, they assassin your character, they insult you and if you still don’t want to go, then they ignore you and pretend that you don’t exist. SO how progressive is that? How are the mainstream liberals any better than the republicans? They’re as narrow minded and un accepting of anyone that refuses to play by their rules. They’re arrogant, elitists, bigots and misogynists. We need a real progressive party and a real progressive alternative, and not this pseudo progressives with their pastor Obama that stand makes a great preacher, looking up in God when talking and avoiding the real earthly problems. Ha everything will be fine in heaven… YEA! And Amen, Sweetheart!

By Dixie

May 23, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

EVERY PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY WHO IS REGISTERED TO VOTE HAS A RIGHT TO BE HEARD. IF YOU’RE ONLY GIVEN 1 OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD, YOU TAKE IT The voters should not be discounted because of a couple of bad decision makers.

By Judy

May 23, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Do I expect too much?: I want my vote counted.

I have always heard that every vote counts. And Hillary just seems to be trying to get everyone’s vote to count.

Judy in Florida.

By Todd Gatts

May 23, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

I don’t think it’s right to equate the 2000 presidential election with the 2008 Democratic primary election. Obviously no one is taking away the votes Michigan and Florida will be casting for president in November.

I don’t understand how Democratic voters in Michigan and Florida can be angry at anyone except their own state party leaders. Hey, toss the bums out. That’s democracy for ya.

But to blame Senator Obama for Democratic Party rules — to decide to punish the Democratic Party by withholding a vote from Senator Obama — isn’t sensible.

Democratic Michigan and Florida voters are angry, but they should compartmentalize and focus their anger where it belongs. And they should keep their eyes on the prize, a Democratic president.

By Get Real

May 23, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

Hey Average Female Voter @ 8:06, you said, “If Hillary is not offered the VP slot then it will prove to Hillary supporters that the DNC and Democratic elite were against her all along.” What is your basis for this? 150 Superdelegates endorsed her even before the voting began in Iowa. The MSM treated her as the ‘inevitable’ candidate until she lost Iowa. She cries sexism now that she’s losing, and wants MI and FL counted b/c it will disenfranchise voters. Where was her outrage when the Rules Committee voted to strip the states delegates. All of her supporters on that committee voted unanimously to take those states delegates away, AND she signed a pledge not to campaign in either state. A Presidential candidate should not be forced to choose a VP based on how that person did in the primary. If the tables were turned you would be saying that Hillary is free to choose whomever she wants to be VP. “If you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen.” She did say that right? She is just proving why women have a hard time running for the highest office. Sore loser. She’s lost in every metric and still trying to bring the party down. Why would anyone want her on the ticket with them when she is doing this?

By brian

May 23, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

To Scott D

AU REVOIR!!!!!!!!!

I see why she gets only the poor..errr working class without an education, because everybody who knows better is tired of this foolishness.

By Rob

May 23, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

First - Florida and Michigan voters - you guys are the ones responsible for voting the arrogant politicians into office who knowingly went against the Democrat Party rules, thus disenfranchising your vote - I don’t care if you personally voted for these people or not, they are your State’s elected officials and they broke the rules on your behalf, so quit blaming everyone else - it’s YOUR FAULT. Second, the only reason Senator Clinton is losing this election is because of HER poor choices during this campaign (bad advisors, tall tales, poor financial planning, and ever evolving spin that challenges any semblence of reality). We don’t elect people based on what THEY want, we elect people based on what WE want - and so far, the majority WE want Senator Obama. I will give you that it is a slim majority, but a majority non-the-less. I don’t believe the remaining super delegates are going to set by and let this go to the convention. Any remaining positive Clinton legacy is already in taters and talk of a VP position is the most ludicrous thing I’ve heard - she doesn’t deserve it, just as she does not deserve the nomination.

By Scott D

May 23, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Todd:

Obama’s lawyers sued the Democratic Party to prevent the delegates from Florida and Michigan from being seated. The problem is that people like you do not hesitate to comment or make electoral decisions before knowing what you are talking about….which is why an idiot like Bush became president.

By Cy Brown

May 23, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Hillary has every right to pursue this to the end. She has earned that right! While I am not a Hillary supporter, per se, the absolute fraud that is Barack Hussein Obama makes me want to pull for Hillary to pull this off! The DNC made the mistake, not Hillary. They will have to live with it this fall when Obama becomes another George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, Al Gore and John Kerry and goes down to the usual defeat.

By embarrassed fla. democrat

May 23, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

I am a registered Fla. Democrat…..

I was embarrassed in 2000 when a DEMOCRATIC county screwed up it’s votes….Bush/Harris had nothing to do with it….

The Palm Beach supervisor of elections, WHOSE JOB IT IS TO RUN THE ELECTION screwed it up….

The Florida Democratic Party KNEW that by moving their party’s primary early would result in disqualification of those delegates not being represented.

Florida’s philosophy is the heck with the rules, we’ll do what we want & sue later when we don’t get our way……..

Howard Dean is ONLY FOLLOWING PROCEDURE by not allowing Florida’s delegates.

I do feel sorry for Hillary, but rules or rules. Unfortunately, we are now going to have a complete dumbass represent us in the primary….

Oh well….maybe 2012…..

By kam

May 23, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

AMEN PAT!

DITTO DITTO DITTO.

i loved hil too. obama never implied, don’t vote for hil, she’s a woman. and i don’t even agree with some of his ideology (or hers) but i still loved and admired her. she has turned me way off.

By embarrassed fla. democrat

May 23, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

I am a registered Fla. Democrat…..

I was embarrassed in 2000 when a DEMOCRATIC county screwed up it’s votes….Bush/Harris had nothing to do with it….

The Palm Beach supervisor of elections, WHOSE JOB IT IS TO RUN THE ELECTION screwed it up….

The Florida Democratic Party KNEW that by moving their party’s primary early would result in disqualification of those delegates not being represented.

Florida’s philosophy is the heck with the rules, we’ll do what we want & sue later when we don’t get our way……..

Howard Dean is ONLY FOLLOWING PROCEDURE by not allowing Florida’s delegates.

I do feel sorry for Hillary, but rules or rules. Unfortunately, we are now going to have a complete dumbass represent us in the primary….

Oh well….maybe 2012…..

By Mary Mansour

May 23, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Hillary Clinton is that person that her worst detractors think she is. She’s power mad, frustrated and angry. She thought it was her God given right to return to the White House in 2009 and if she doesn’t think she can make it, she will sear the earth around her.

By Cy Brown

May 23, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

Barack Hussein Obama is the biggest fraud in this country since 40 Acres and a Mule!!!

By Andrew L.

May 23, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Hillary may have been a good Democrat once upon a time, but her lust to win power has consumed her to the point where she is promoting a split that defies reason. See Hillary in Boca Raton, FL

While I respect her right to run, IF she is to run as a Democrat, shouldn’t she be required to follow the rules of that Party to which she claims allegiance?

Now, she claims that the leaders of the Party, those who allow her to run under the banner of Democrat, are punishing voters in Florida.

No, Hillary. It was the Republican controlled Legislature, and their Republican Governor who ram-rodded this legislation through, coupled with balloting audit trail provisions that the Dems felt really needed to pass. It’s the Republican controlled FL legislature you should be going after, not your own party!

You are a sellout to your own lust for power, and to the “dark side” which allowed your husband to get a BJ in the Oval Office while on duty as the highest elected official in the land. Why didn’t you divorce him? Because your lust for power overwhelms your conscience. You can’t even disavow those folks who accuse Obama of being a Muslim! Where is your moral compass? I’m concerned that you have none.

Now, you want to vilify this mixed-race Democrat in the race, who is winning. You’re willing to tear him down even to the point of hurting his chances to win in November, even though you KNOW he will be our party’s nominee.

When will it end, Hillary? When will you stand up for morality and principles over your personal lust for money and power? I’m afraid the worst is yet to come. Four more years of a Bush surrogate, and then you’ll say, “See, I told you so”.

And then you’ll think you’ve won. Pitiful. What an odd testimony at the end of 35-yr history of “standing up for the little guy”.

By GA_Tiger Fan

May 23, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Do I expect too much?: I want my vote counted.

I have always heard that every vote counts. And Hillary just seems to be trying to get everyone’s vote to count.

Did you not read the article? The Democrats did this to punish those states for changing their primaries and Clinton agreed with it 100%. However, now that she needs the votes she’s had a change of heart. What a surprise? She will do anything to get elected, including changing the rules.

By Todd Gatts

May 23, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

I can admit that as a Democrat, I watched Senator McCain on the daily Show complain about how poorly the war was being run and how inattentive Republican lawmakers were being, and I admired him for that.

But then as he ran for president, he wanted to make tax cuts for the rich permanent, and stay in Iraq for a decade, and rout out liberal activist judges … and I saw him in a completely different light.

His earlier stances looked like the work of a maverick; I liked that. His latest positions look like pandering to his Conservative base; I like that, mmm, not so much.

I have come to believe Senator McCain is not the right person to be our next president because I think his views are wrong for the problems we find ourselves in — no other reason.

By rose

May 23, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Hilary is real and Barak is a frod. It’s sad that most of the fake-os yuppie Democrats don’t like real. They like frods and pretends. They’re after empty style and no substance. Too bad Barac will never get a chance to show what a bad president he’ll make.

By FAT LADY SANGING!!!

May 23, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

TO ALL THE HILLARY SUPPORTERS….NEWSFLASH*NEWSFLASH

YOUR CANDIDATE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT TO NOT CAMPAIGN IN MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA BECAUSE THEY MOVED THEIR PRIMARIES UP AGAINST DNC RULES. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS, BUT WHAT IS AMAZING IS HOW YOU ALL HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT.

SHE AND BILL HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING…EVERYTHING…TO CHANGE THE COURSE OF THIS CAMPAIGN AND HAVE MISCALCULATED EVERYTHING. SHE HAS LIED OPENLY TO THE PUBLIC (THAT WOULD BE YOU CITIZEN)!! I LIKED HILLARY, TOO. BUT YOU CAN”T BEAT THE TRUTH, EVER.

NOW TO YOU NITWITS WHO SAY THEY WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN INSTEAD OF SEN. OBAMA…ARE YOU CRAZY??!!! YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO AVOID A TRAIN WRECK OF A PRESIDENCY AND YOU CHOOSE TO DRIVE THIS COUNTRY RIGHT INTO IT. DO YOU HATE HIM FOR HIS POLITICS OR BECAUSE HE’S…HEAVEN FORBID..A BLACK MAN??!!! HE’S HAPPILY MARRIED, A CHRISTIAN, AND HE TELLS THE TRUTH.

SO IF YOU MUST MAKE A STATEMENT FOR HILLARY AND VOTE MCCAIN, LOOK BACK ON THIS STATEMENT AND THEN LOOK YOURESELF IN THE MIRROR. THEN REPEAT, I MADE THIS COUNTRY FAR WORSE FOR MYSELF, MY FAMILY, AND OUR FUTURE. THAT IS NOT THE WAY PEOPLE AND YOU KNOW IT.

By Marie

May 23, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Does it REALLY matter? I would welcome John Kerry right now and I could not have thought of a more terrifying presidential candidate during the last election. Now we have three very self centered candidates who will probably do more harm to the country than Bush has (if that is even possible).

By 14u2thinkabout

May 23, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

A distraction is a distraction. Ego and hubris are a dangerous combination, and having a great impact on Senator Clinton. Her actions do not show leadership skills. It’s all about the power and position. Position has nothing to do with leadership. Just look at the office of President over the last 7 1/2 years.

By Charliedog8

May 23, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Here are my thoughts: 1) I predict that whichever party wins this next election will have achieved their last victory during my lifetime (I’m 50). Mr. Bush & Co have made such a hopeless mess of our country and government that only difficult and unpopular choices are left to the victor of either party. 2) I find Mr. Obama much more inspirational than Hillary. Frankly, I’m tired of her (and I plan to vote democrat). 3) Why do we Americans allow Bush and his Neo-con-men to call themselves “Conservatives”? Their actions demonstrate that they are a bunch of fiscally irresponsible derelicts.
4) Not that the Democrats are a much better alternative - they can’t even competently manage their own primaries.
5) America, we’re in for a world of hurt.

By Jana

May 23, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

OBAMA is an idiot, and it has nothing to do with the color of his skin. From his own mouth, in 2004, he stated he would NOT consider running for president in 2008 because he has NO EXPERIENCE, and he would NOT vote for someone with no experience himself, SO WHY WOULD ANYONE ELSE. What happened? He is nothing but a BIG MOUTH with nothing to back him up. His only rhetoric to cover lack of knowlege is to suddenly be FRONT AND CENTER BLACK!!! Get rid of this pathetic puppet with a mouth and vote for a candidate who can actually lead this country. Either McCain or Clinton would be better—ASLEEP, than this moron BARRY.

By CC

May 23, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Also dodging, SNIPER FIRE.

By lucas

May 23, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Wow. Talk about reaffirming. Too many folks on here are bringing so much shame to our country by still supporting our current regime with lies built upon lies. All ‘facts’ you spout are nonsensical twists on past headlines. Never, ever will MOST of us forgive the GOP or Bush for this blunder of war that resulted in many lost lives(too bad not yours, a crippled economy, no fail-safe for gas addiction, our failed faith in our government, other nations’ mistrust, and our great divide between our countrymen. I’m voting Democrat, and so are nearly ALL people 18-30. We will take the country back from you all-consuming, money-grubbing, elitist monsters. No amount of media control and use of buzz words will change that. We will once again, pick up your mess GOP. Cry about this post all you want.. have it removed. whatever. I will not check again anyway. I was just upset at the lies still being peddled by manipulated people who haven’t any decency at all. Shame on you all. SAVE OUR COUNTRY FROM THESE PEOPLE!!

By Shannon

May 23, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

On one hand I agree with the premise that the voters should have a right to have their votes counted, but on the other hand, no matter how you look at it, no matter how you punish Florida & Michigan (whether it is through not counting the delegates or possibly charging a fine, which I am sure the taxpayers would end up paying for), the voters are going to be the ones that wind up getting hurt. Not the states that made the decision to have their primary early even though they knew what would happen. I don’t know that there is any fair solution, because if you allow the votes to be counted (which you can’t really do in Michigan since Barack Obama never even appeared on the ballot there unless you just split them evenly 50/50) then they are basically only slapping the wrists of the states of Florida and Michigan and saying to them “hey, that’s okay … just don’t do it again” with a wink and nod. But if they don’t count the votes in one form or another then they’re disenfranchsizing all of those Florida and Michigan voters and that’s not right either.

I guess the most fair way is to only count part of the votes and then divide them up in Michigan 50/50 and divide them up in Florida based on percentage of who won what.

By Scott D

May 23, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Brian:

“AU REVOIR” to you too and “hello” to McCain in Nov.

The White working class demographic just a small part of the Clinton electorate. Clinton gets 48% of college educated and affluent voters, as well as majority of Latino (the largest minority group) and Asians.

Why doesn’t MSM break down the 92% of Black supporters by income and education? Most of Obama’s African-American supporters are working class, poverty level, poorly educated, or if you will—-a strong “ghetto” contingent.

Yet you and the MSN likes to conveniently focus only on Clinton’s White working class support

While Obama fanatics like you, and MSM, want to fool yourself into thinking you are voting for a “premium” candidate, think again. Obama is a mediocre candidate with no accomplishments and with a dubious plan for America whose supporters are far less educated and affluent than you want to believe.

By Andrew L.

May 23, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

“By Rob” - I can see that you are very intelligent and have been paying attention for quite some time.

I don’t care if you personally voted for these people or not, they are your State’s elected officials and they broke the rules on your behalf, so quit blaming everyone else - it’s YOUR FAULT

This is exactly the point of the argument that Hillary should now be wielding in FL. She needs to quit her personal quest and get on board to support her party, just like Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd, Ted Kennedy, Caroline Kennedy, and now John Edwards.

The DLC needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with itself. Bill Clinton had a great legacy, even with his near impeachment. The Clinton Global Initiative has been a great cause.

Yet now is the time for Hillary to make the right choices, not to screw up the Clinton legacy and work to destroy our chance to win in November.

Our losses in 2000 and 2004 could be laid squarely at the feet of Bill Clinton, because he drove so many God-fearing Dems to the other side. I would’t vote for a Republican unless they were running the messiah and we Dems were running the anti-christ. Yet those Clinton supporters who say they’ll vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee? How can they be God-fearing Dems?

If you’re a Christian, or even respect the right of people to worship as they choose, I think it’s time to use the power of discernment to see which of the three left standing would lead us toward peace. Even if you’re not a Christian and you follow one of the planet’s other great systems of faith, doesn’t this saber rattling of McCain and Clinton bother you?

How “Christ-like” has George Bush been in his vetoing of legislation that would really help the little guy? What about the richest 2% receiving 52% of the benefit from tax breaks and McCain wants to continue this? Even if your religion is against abortion rights and stem cell research, isn’t your religion against the state controlling your religion? If you don’t want to have an abortion, don’t have one!

Obama is not only the most intelligent candidate running, he is the most morally in tune with his faith, while recognizing the rights of others to their own faith, or to have no faith at all. He is the closest we’ve had to Abraham Lincoln or JFK for over 40 years.

Think as you vote, now and in the fall. Do your due diligence on the candidates and their character. Read “The Audacity of Hope”. Be an informed voter.

By Todd Gatts

May 23, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Dear Scott D:

Ad hominem attacks don’t really further your case. I’m at least smart enough to use obscure Latin terms, and I research the people I vote for to a much greater depth than any of my friends and coworkers.

By rose

May 23, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Lucas is a typical chicken. Spits up insults and runs away. Whimps like him pick another whimp like Obama. That’s not the way to take the country back. Unfortunately the 18 to 30 years olds in this country are bunch of whimps and bimbos they’re taking nothing away.

By Scott D

May 23, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

I care about Hillary, but frankly I don’t really care about Florida voters being disenfranchised. It seems that Florida usually does something botch up the voting process. As far as I’m concerned, USA would be better off without Florida’s dysfunctional electoral process. How difficult is it to follow a few rules???

By kreedham

May 23, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

I hope I get this right but here it is as I understand it.

Florida-set early primary and when told by DNC they couldn’t tried to move it back but Republican’s in the FL state legislature blocked that attempt. Candidates agreed not to campaign in Florida, election was still held, so those delegates will probably be seated per election results.

Michigan-while not the case in Florida candidates had a chance to remove their name from the ballot and all did but Hillary (maybe a smart move on her part). Delegates will be seated probably on a close to 50/50 distribution.

May 31 is when the DNC Rules Committee gets together to work it out.

Obama should offer the VP slot to HRC but I believe she should decline it and then make a major address along the lines of we fought hard, we came close, but let’s get together and elect BO. Any HRC voters that say they’ll vote for JM are only hurting themselves. Good or Bad, HRC will have a lot to say on whether BO will be elected. She can urge her supporters to support him and be a major player in a BO presidency or remain silent which will tarnish her in the history books and make her an ineffective Senator for the remainder of her term.

By GOPs got to go

May 23, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

AMEN brother Lucas!! Bush has made America an embarrassment to the World.

By Tamika

May 23, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Yes she should goto Florida!!

By Chris Salzmann

May 23, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Pat,

Your saying that you would vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee tells me that there are some racist undertones here. I’m white, and I support Obama. But, if he were behind and lost the nomination, I would still vote for whoever won the nomination. I just want the Republicans out! Your stance tells me that you would vote for a dog rather than vote for Obama. That’s says a lot about you and what you lack.

The race for the democratic nomination is not a dead heat. You imply that it is so close that Hillary can catch up. I’m sorry but you are wrong. Hillary is now in the race to strengthen her bargaining position with the democratic party. Plus she’s still in because she wants someone else to pay off the debts she has incurred from her poorly run campaign. Unfortunately, there are plenty of suckers like you who will still drink the cool aid she’s passing out that she has a chance to win this. No wonder because her biggest pool of supporters are those without any meaningful education. You must be one of them.

By scott d

May 23, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Todd:

Ad hominem attack? Oh gee Todd you should be proud of yourself, while you are accusing me of Ad hominem attacks, you are the one attaking in an Ad hominem fashion.. Todd, you prove There is a strong “youthful” immature contingent…that the adults need to distance themselves from…McCain in ‘08. By the way, “Ad hominem” is not that impressive…it is apparently new to you. Face it, Obama will not reach 270 in Nov.

By Redneck

May 23, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT

I hope you members of the CESSPOOL party (Democrat/DailyKos/MoveOn.org) keep this fight going all the way through your convention.

By Vicki

May 23, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

All votes should be counted. Still stinging from the 2000 debacle in Fl. I am a Hillary voter and believe all votes should be counted.

By NICK

May 23, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Why shouldn’t she?

No democrat EVER wants to “play by the rules”. They are all SCUMBAGS.

If Obama was in her position, he would turn this controversy into a “race issue”, as every black does when they fail and I guaruntee (even though I don’t agree) because he is black, Dean would “bend the rules” for him. Just to “cut da brutha sum slack”.

Either way, President McCain will prevail!

By Independent

May 23, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

BHO is the most inexperienced and unaccomplished candidate in history. Yep, there are lot of people running around comparing him JFK but, it is false.

BHO promoted himself by writing two books and sold them as his biography. Truth be told, he changed chronological order, changed fact and didn’t even do any research for “The Dreams of My Father”. Factually, his father abandoned him and his mother at an early age so, he couldn’t have known his fathers dream.

Can’t vote for him just because of his inexperience and the statements he makes on foreign policy and national security are naive. His example of JFK meeting with Khrushchev is also naive. Khrushchev cleaned JFK’s clock because of his inexperience and Khrushchev erected Berlin Wall because of JFK’s failure at Vienna and led Cuban Missile Crisis. Historical Facts.

Claim to have lived in Indonesia for year or two and attending elementary school there doesn’t make you foreign policy expert. Obama will be led by Left Wing Ultra Liberal Academics, which will create a big problem for the foreseeable future. Need someone with pragmatic ideas and goals.

By Blaine

May 23, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

I think the majority of Obama’s White supporters are RACIST because they are voting for Obama to prove they are NOT Racist(even though they ARE) by supporting any Black candidate and purge themselves of their White racist guilt…and that somehow magically, Obama, because he is mixed race is supposed to automatically bring all the races together and everyone will live happily ever after. I prefer the colorblind approach….Obama has no accomplishments that would demonstrate his efficacy as president. His appeasement policies with Hamas and terrorist groups would be counter-productive and dangerous. …I’m voting McCain in 2008.

By DoddFan

May 23, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

First Lets get one thing straight, as you can see by my Post name I didnt vote for either candidate. My take is, if you agree to fight by a certain set of rules dont cry foul when youre down on the score card in the 12th round. With that said The reason the dems didnt impeach “Dubya” is because his VP might be the one person on the planet thats worse than he is. As far as him not doing anything illegal, he lied to congress and the american people by going to war under false pretenses. Lets face it, this administration has had ZERO accountability and anyone who raises a fist in anger is considered UN-AMERICAN. WAKE UP folks… WE THE PEOPLE are being exploited, lied to, and our freedoms have been systematically chipped away (can u say patriot act). We need change and we need it now, wether its HRC or BHO. And YES a McCain administration will be another Bush Administration -better believe it. Stop worrying about voting for the winner and start worrying about doing whats right for America. Our Economy has gone straight to Hades (and YES the war has alot to do with it, its not JUST the Housing flop), Our Children and elderly are suffering… something got to change folks… Stop letting the media dictate how you will vote, research these folks for yourselves and make educated decisions about the future of our country, lets dump this bee hive mentality.

By Not a "Community Organizer"

May 23, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Only in a Democrat-created politically correct environment could Hillary Clinton be afraid of challenging “community organizer” Barack Obama.

Barry is the affirmative action candidate: He cannot be challenged by anyone lest that person be called a racist. Heavens! We sure wouldn’t want that to happen…. I’m skeeered.

By Not a "Community Organizer"

May 23, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Blaine is right. Barry Obama has an undistinguished (and short) career in politics. His low-level social services career as a “community organizer” didn’t develop skills that are transferable to the presidency.

And it’s true that white folks who want to assuage their consciences use Obama as some sort of magic salve.

But most voters in the November election won’t possess such guilt. When Obama loses in the general election, look for high-end electronics products to come sailing out of the windows in key urban areas.

Somehow a 42 inch LCD panel just makes one feel better about such things….

By JustMe

May 23, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

No - I think that the DNC should only count the votes that are for Obama. Throw away all votes for Clinton.

After all, that’s what they want anyway, right? Who cares what the people want!

By joe

May 23, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

The ONLY reason the DNC wants Obama in the top slot is because he is a MONEY machine. As in everything - follow the money. Change can’t be bought, but power can. The DNC sees the money this smooth talker can bring to the party. That is all they care about. The rest will be business as usual. They are more worried about Clinton because she would be harder to manipulate.

By Jay

May 23, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

All of you Obama haters are secretly scared of this man and what he represents.

By joe

May 23, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

It’s been said before many times. The DNC wants it over before the convention because if the vote goes to Clinton there with somany people focussed, there will be riots.

By Not a "Community Organizer"

May 23, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

Jay:

One other comment: If Hillary’s fight were not with Obama but with a Republican, her doggedness wouldn’t be considered “destroy[ing] the legacy built with her husband and confirm[ing] the claims of extreme ego and selfishness always levied by her worst enemies.”

Rather, her fight would be considered [by you] noble, principled, and consistent with the Founders’ intent. Her continuing to fight shows that not everyone wants to lay down at the altar of the Obamessiah.

He’s an empty suit who’ll end up with a talk show on CBS. Think of him as the Male Oprah. He’ll rake in billions. Really.

By ali

May 23, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Wow. Another Article about what a b*** Hillary is. Amazing in this day and age in AMERICA this type of vitrol, irrational hatred towards women is totally acceptable and ENCOURAGED. I have yet to see one article that approaches anything Clinton does with fairness and respect. Here are some of the headlines - the latest: “Clinton encourages others to be racist!” “Clinton plays victim card” “Clinton should drop out now” “Why is Clinton still in the race?” For that matter, why f**ing bother? If your just going to hate on the lady and present her as some demonic thing, why not just put us all in burkas, keep us in the kitchen and beat us up in private? I mean really, now its all the people talking about how the Clintons are “ruining their legacy” Give me a break. The public has torn them down because for some reason the Clintons should pay for the Bush dynasty. The UNFAIR media bias has taught me a lesson as a woman. Shut up, and leave it all to the men..no matter how inexperienced or war hungry they are, no matter how much their screwing up..dont say a peep..because you will get blamed for all their failures and they willl take crdit for all your success.

By Steve

May 23, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

LOL. Yeah, vote for McSame…watch gas prices hit $8 gallon and stay there, and watch the middle class vanish.

Nice, folks. Vote for McSame!

By Albert

May 23, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

Clay, do you really think that Bush hasn’t committed a crime? What do you call sending a nation to war uder false pretenses? Bush told the nation that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, a statement long since proven to be untrue this text will be bolded and what’s more, he knew that it was!

By Terry

May 23, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

I am so tired of race being injected into this campaign by the media at every turn. Wake up people and stop eating this and other crap the media tries to feed to us which is only meant to divide and make a dumber and ill informed electorate so the powers that be can make all sorts of laws that take away from our freedoms. Whites need not be afraid of an Obama presidency and the paradigm shift, especially from a social and socio-economic standpoint that it would bring. Blacks and Hispanics need to understand that Obama is no savior that can work miracles and that hard work and passion are still the keys to success. Lets start coming together as a country before we’re all working overseas working in a sweat shop.

By dave

May 23, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Pat says:

“Supporters like Scott have no moral compass. They’d be willing to deliver the whole country to 4 more years of “faux Bush” and a McCain-appointed Supreme Court,just because they have a bruised ego. ”

Pat - supporters like you are so high on the stench of BO that you have lost all sense of political savy and knowledge. McCain IS NOT BUSH and he has something called….. A VOTING RECORD to prove it. If naive schoolgirl Obama thinks he can win this by using teh hatred towards Bushs policies against McCain, he has another thing coming. DOes he really thing Americans are that stupid? McCain has as much resemblence to a republican as Obama has to Snoop Dogg. So if I vote Obama will I get Snoop?

By MissV

May 23, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Sen. Clinton is not aiming for 2012. She would then be as old and grumpy as Geraldine Ferraro, an ungrateful cancer survivor who has an agenda of her own.

By ali

May 23, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Andrew L says: “Think as you vote, now and in the fall. Do your due diligence on the candidates and their character. Read “The Audacity of Hope”. Be an informed voter.”

Wow. You call reading a politicians autobiography due diligence in fact finding? Did it ever occur to you that sometimes peoples stories ABOUT THEMSELVES can be an inflated fantasy? Are you saying we should elect BO because he is a good story teller?

By Keith

May 23, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

That’s not all she will lose. She will lose the very possibility to be considered for the VP position too. I mean, she going all the way to hurt Obama and at the same time is planning to demand, through her husband of course(who else?)to be considered as his prospective VP. Don’t you think this is a bit too cheeky, even by the Clinton standard? If I were Obama, I would certainly not pick a person who has gone such a length to hurt me and who I can never never trust.

She is literally shooting herself in the foot. How very ironic. Only Hillary Clinton is capable of that.

By We The People

May 23, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Wht are the supposed to be super delegates letting this one person highjack OUR party? They have the power to put a stop to this , or do some of the good ole boys want to see this continue? This is not about race or gender for most of us, and for those that it is so be it! However ther are enough forward thinking people of all races and genders who want what is best for OUR country, and that is to put a stop to this mess! All of you know that Mrs. Clinton can not catch up with Mr. Obama. You also know that she have wrecked her self image and now is attempting to do the same to OUR party.What is the problem, or are there besides her others like vultures waiting on the side line to see if Mr. Obama will have something bad happen to himself or his image? If so keep waiting and the more you wait the more you look like those parasites waitng to feed off of anothers bad luck. I leave it to you

By Disgusted Dem

May 23, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Let’s try to take a step back and examine the issue without the anti-Hillary misogyny, the anti-Bill Clinton envy and the pro-Obama exhiliration.

Michigan and Florida moved their primaries up and had all their delegates taken away. Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina moved their primaries up and nobody in the DNC said a word.

There are reasons the Dems keep losing the Presidency to buffoons like W and mediocrities like his dad, and most of them have to do with the way the Dems select their nominees and campaign for the job. They would rather lose with dignity (whatever that is) than win by playing the game the way the R’s do — by doing whatever it takes. With the exception of Carter’s Watergate win in ‘76, the only Dem to win the Presidency since ‘64 is Bill Clinton, and he’s the only Dem in the last 40 years who actually fought for the Presidency.

The decision to strip Michigan & Florida of all their delegates is the latest example of the sheer stupidity of Dem pols who have led the party to one electoral failure after another. Does anybody think that was an appropropriate punishment for defying the idiots at the DNC? Take away the 2 states’ superdelegates maybe, but not disenfranchise every primary voter. What morons.

And then there’s the anti-democratic, party activist friendly caucus process that has provided Obama’s winning margin, but we’ll leave that for the time being.

Polls in several critical states indicate that Hillary will do better against McCain than Obama. But the superdelegates are so scared of a possible revolt by Obama supporters that they are going to ignore which candidate has the best chance to win in November and nominate Obama, who will be shredded by the Rethuglican attack machine.

Mayhe he and his campaign staff will show a little backbone and fight back, but that would go against the grain of Dem candidates not named Clinton.

In a year when Dems across the country are going to sweep into office (even Al Franken for Senate in Minnesota), the idiots who run the party are going to do their best to ensure that the one office we won’t take is the Presidency.

By TheTruthIsDifficult

May 23, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Obama is going to have a lot of trouble getting the women’s vote because he was silent about the sexism directed at Clinton. He’s views on women were showen clearly by the silence and his own “sweety” comment. I think he will have a diffcult time winning in Nov and it will be of his own making.

By JustMe

May 23, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

I don’t hate Obama at all. I much prefer him to McCain.

I don’t understand the Hillary haters. She is doing nothing wrong. There are still States yet to vote and she has every right to remain on the ballot. Those voters can vote for her - it is their choice and their right.

Why would anyone deny a legal citizen the right to vote? I just don’t get it.

Why would anyone be angry at a candidate that wants to remain on the ballot? I just don’t get it.

Why do people continue to try and “read her mind” as to her motives? Does it matter? Just accept reality! Your blood pressure will appreciate it!

By PJ

May 23, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

The Democrat party is showing it’s true self. The fact they have rules which allow for millions of votes to be cast aside and not counted shows they don’t care about the voter. The fact that both candidates knew these rules and agreed to them shows their true character. Neither candidate has secured the nomination. Neither can. This primary will come down to the superdelegates, which will in essence nullify each & every democrat primary vote cast. Why have superdelegates unless you don’t trust the voters to decide. Some party. LOL!

By Scott d

May 23, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Dave,

This has nothing to do with bruised ego. McCain is the best candidate because he is experienced, moderate, bipartisan, and a strong leader. I notice Obama supporters never talk specifics because they have no argument why this “community organizer” should be president. It is because of uninformed voters like you is why we ended up with Dubya. If you knew anything at all, you would know that McCain is not Bush. It is too bad, maybe you should learn what’s going on in the world.

By Fulton

May 23, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Judging from these mean-spirited and hateful blogs, America is in trouble regardless of who wins because sadly, it’s evident the country is full of morons…from ALL sides!!

By Greg

May 23, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

WTF is a Super Delegate? Maybe, someone who’s better than you and me or a regular delegate? Maybe they think they were born to have a better pot to p!ss in? Or, maybe it’s just a means to rig the nominating system so that some in the Democrat party have more power than they’d be due under a normal democratic process - anybody remember “one man, one vote?” Is this the type of “democratic” government we can expect from a Democrat president?

Sounds a lot like communism to me.

By vote4thebest

May 23, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

If the DNC wants to punish Florida and Michigan then they can but they need to punish the politicians and not the people. For example, they can push Florida’s back as the last state to vote in the next presidential election. But they have absolutely no right to: 1. Play God to decide how people vote and how their vote should be counted. If they vote for Clinton then it is hers. If they vote uncommitted then they should be uncommitted to reflect the voters’ intent. For anything less than 100% then Clinton and these voters should sue the party for all what it worth! 2. Reward Obama for his cold calculated move to temper with the election process. He consciously made the decision to take his name off the Michigan’s ballot while keeping it on in Florida. He ran TV ads in Florida and ran a very strong drive to ask people to vote uncommitted. He knew that he has a high chance to loose then and made this deliberate decision. 3. Help hiding the fact that none of the so-called civil rights leaders (i.e., Lewis) are not stepping up to make this demand. It is now obvious that they should now be called civil rights oppressors”, or Obama’s puppets!

By Hillary Girl

May 23, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

As a white female, I’m ready for something other than the same ole “meat and two veggies” type of president, no matter what race they may be. Time for a female perspective on our country’s problems and issues. Bring on a woman for a change! Bring it on, Hillary Clinton!!! Never give up! Never surrender!!

By J Smith

May 23, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Posted previously by ToddGatts:

“I agree with the sensible people on this forum who point out that the Republican’s only interest in thus discussion is to turn Democrats against each other.

I suggest you do as I do: assume that every white woman on any forum who rants that we are stealing her legacy is actually an old, scared male republican masquerading on the internet. The same is true for every black man yelling how its their turn.

When you see a polarizing white woman or black man on a forum, you should imagine Rush Limbaugh at a keyboard giggling. And then you should ignore them.

Truth be told, this is an embarrassment of riches. Come November I will either proudly vote for the first woman president or the first black president. How great is that?!

DO NOT LET THE REPUBLICANS DISTRACT YOU!

We are privileged to belong to the big tent party. We are going to change thus country. The future will be better than the past, and we will be part of the reason why it’s better.”

That was excellent. We should all post this verbatum on the forums that we read and write on. Bravo!

By rayray

May 23, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

**The arguement about FL and MI being seated and the rights of the voters is rediculous. The primary votes are a method by which the 2 major parties choose their candidates. The various other parties do not hold primary elections to choose their candidate. In fact, the Dems and Rep primary method is a recent tool used. The rights of voters in PRIMARY elections are not as sacred as the rights of voters in general elections. As a member of a party, you get to vote as a way to help the party decide the candidate. The party can guide the process as the party wants. Basically, we are like stockholders of a corporation. We get to vote on matters, but ultimately the board makes the decision. Now the board, using this metaphor, takes the will of the shareholders in the highest regard. But, we don’t have the RIGHT to vote in these elections. They are held by the party for the party. In most states, one cannot just vote for any candidate they want. They need to vote for someone within their own party. So all of this talk of disenfranchisement of FL and MI is really stupid. The party makes t he rules and the candidates obide by them. The voice of the people is really just a reference for the party to make the decision. Stop thinking that we have the right to vote like in a general election. Its not the same thing.

Now, HC knew the rules going in and by making the fuss she is making, she is the cause of the ruckus. No one would have blinked an eye regarding FL and MI had she not said anything. If she had followed the rules of the party holding the elections, rules she agreed to when she was the frontrunner, then this would not even be an issue. By arguing her case, she has made this matter blow up and it will hurt the party. She needs to go away and quit whining. She lost and that is that. She is doing so much damage right now. And threatening to vote for JMc in lieu of her is rediculous. Are you mad at BO, support JMc or just a petulant little child who did not get their way? Like HC.**

By joe

May 23, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

Obama’s far left and very short record will not win the general election. People, other than those smitten with his pretty word, are not that dumb.

By Steve

May 23, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

It’s not about Billary being a b**, it’s about her dividing the Dem party. Period. It’s disgusting. I used to support her. Not any more.

I believe it’s true about this Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton dynasty thing.

If Americans want change, Obama is the best chance we’ve got. And we need change badly - as we’re devolving quite quickly as a nation.

By Steve

May 23, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

People were dumb enough to vote for Dubya TWICE. So yes, they’ll surely vote for McSame, and give the rich more tax cuts, oil companies more corporate welfare, watch our debt rise, our economy tank further.

Nice going, Americans!

By Greg

May 23, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Where, oh where, do Super Delegates come from? Are they made of special stuff that allows them to be “Super”? Does St. Peter recognize them at the pearly gates just because they’re “Super”? I just have less and less respect for the Democrats ability to govern the country without making some people “Super” and others just regular.

Sounds elitist to me.

By rayray

May 23, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

To Ali: In every example you gave of woman hating, not one was gender biased. They were all neutral. It must suck to think that every time something does not go your way, its because you are a woman. And it must suck that every time your fave candidate loses or is picked on its because she is a woman. Can you name a candidate who has not been run through the ringer? Could it be that she is not liked because of her personality? Maybe she is just not likeable. There are millions of people who are not liked and dont blame it on their skin, gender, religion, etc.. Quit being a baby and accept the fact that your candidate may just be not liked for her character.

By Kiki

May 23, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

I have two questions for all the FEMALE HILLARY SUPPORTERS on this blog who say you will vote for McCain or not at all if Obama wins the nomination:

Are you aware that John McCain has openly stated that he believes Roe v. Wade should be overturned, and he will nominate Supreme Court judges who share this view?

Are you aware that John McCain has openly stated that cheated on his disabled wife multiple times after returning to America as a POW in the 1970s,(His wife was severely injured in a car crash while he was a POW), and that he left his disabled wife and three kids to marry his current wife Cindy who was a 25 yr old blond cheerleader when they met. McCain was 43 at the time.

I am a woman, and I was digusted when I learned the truth about McCain’s personal life. He holds himself out to be morally superior to the other candidates. What a crock of sh*t! The way he treated his family after returning from the war completely wipes out any moral authority he might have as a POW in my eyes. And let’s not forget the fact that the woman he married stole prescription pain drugs from a charity organization that she herself organized! How can any self-respecting Democratic woman vote for this SCUMBAG over Obama???? Please, explain to me!

By Greg

May 23, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

We’re the Big Tent party - that’s us, we’re Democrats. We open our doors wide to anybody, except regular people ‘cause, you see, the tent’s not that Big.

HOWEVER, in lieu of really being the Big Tent party, we do have Super Delegates. We let Them into the tent because we “appreciate” them more than just the normal people. The Super Delegates will let you normal people into the Big Tent, but you just can’t sit next to ‘em.

Somthing about them being Super and you not so much so…

By Historic Election

May 23, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

After the historic November election, mothers and fathers will be able to say to their sons and daughters “look honey. If you study hard and apply yourself, one day you too can grow up to be…..a community organizer.”

God Bless America.

By Malik Zulu

May 23, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

Obama is the next prezidnet. It’s time u lily white people moved aside. you be runnin everyin for over 100yrs …black is the new president…Blak is the power, get used 2 it!!!

By J

May 23, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

I don’t understand this argument. Saying that the US has to ‘enforce’ a person’s right to be represented by a political party is akin to saying the the US should ‘force’ a church to baptize that person. The only right one has to vote in the general election. I though political conventions were essentially private events. Part of the problem is the corrupting influence of the two party system we have to deal with.

By Scott D

May 23, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Democrats are a big tent party? Well for the last 8 yrs, it’s been a very small tent….this year probably too.

By Leah

May 23, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Taking a look back, I was happy to see the Clinton’s time in office come to an end. Why would I now want them back?

I would have supported John McCain if Hillary had gotten the nomination until he began to tow the conservative line.

If Obama is not the nominee, I will either sit this one out or vote for Nader.

McCain and Hillary are of the same cloth except for the Supreme Court; that’s not much of a choice for me. More of the same partisan bickering and the average American continues to suffer.

Aren’t you all tired of politics as usual? Or are soaring food and gas prices and a weak economy just what you’ve been voting (hoping) for all these years.

By Reality

May 23, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Let’s pretend that Obama and McCain are out of the picture. We must ask ourselves. Do we want a president who agrees to and signs on to a set of rules and when the rules do not benefit that individual personally, he/she wants the rules waived or changed? I don’t believe any decent human being can look themselves in the mirror and declare I have a right to change the rules that I(along with my competitors) agreed to. Do we really want that kind of individual governing us?

By J

May 23, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Hillary’s supporters refuse to acknowledge the facts. She helped dig her own hole. No one decided to take MI and FL away from her. They were never hers to begin with. MI and FL decided to take themselves out of the picture, no one disenfranchised them. The voters in those states should take out their wrath on local leadership. So much for honesty/integrity with politics!

By Hillary Girl

May 23, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

If Hillary doesn’t get the nomination and if His Royal Highness Obama doesn’t come down off of his high horse and nominate her for his running mate, I, like more than a few other white women, will vote McCain. If we women can’t get behind a female presidential candidate when we finally get the chance then why on earth should I care about the Supreme Court or Roe v. Wade?

By Greg

May 23, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

I’ve been told on good authority that THE DEMOCRAT PARTY will nominate anyone it darn well pleases. And, to you regular people who thought your vote actually mattered, please stop sniveling. If your PARTY wants your opinion, it will give it to you. The SUPER DELEGATES and your PARTY know what’s best for you regular people.

“Super” is the prefix of Superiority.

By Jay Bookman

May 23, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

To Everyone:

Just so it’s clear. The person who posted the racially provocative pro-Obama message above as Malik Zulu is posting from the same computer as the pro-Hillary poster calling himself Scott D. and Blaine. Not that Scott D. would EVER stoop to falsely injecting race into such a debate.

By Scott D

May 23, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

The Supreme Court paranoia is unfounded. Judges are independent and often are not reliable ideologues. Many presidents have been disappointed with their choices. Liberal Stevens was nominated by Nixon. Conservative Sandra Day O’Conner became a pivotal swing voter. I’m a recent Democrat and voting McCain. He is moderate, bipartisan, and well-liked by Democrats.

By Kiki

May 23, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

The Supreme Court is far more powerful than any single sitting President when it comes to shaping policy in this country. Supreme Court judges are nominated to serve for LIFE. Of the current justices, John Paul Stevens is 88 years old, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 75 years old. Many people have predicted that Stevens will be replaced by a nominee offered up by the incoming President. Ginsburg is also likely to retire within the next two Presidential cycles. These judges decide the law of the land, NOT the President.

By Getahun Leta

May 23, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

It is irresponsible to contamplate that Hillary Clinton would be responsible if McCain wins the presidsency next November. We still insist upon the DNC to resolve the issue of votes in Florida and Michigan. To threaten Hillary with any negative outcome of this election is unreasonable and utterly wrong. Hillary should fight to the end and she will not retreat from raising the issue of one person one vote. This is a civil right issue that should be supported by all democrats.

By Scott D

May 23, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

I support Hillary but if she loses the nomination, I am voting McCain. He is moderate and bipartisan.

Kerry wanted McCain on ticket on 2004!

By Jay Bookman

May 23, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

To Scott D: Just a reminder that we have the ability to bar posting from a particular IP address, which would silence both you and “Malik.”

By Harry S.

May 23, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

To everyone vowing to vote for McSame-as-Bush if HRC is not awarded the nomination, in spite of losing, THANK YOU!

Sincerely thank you, you have proved you are not Democrats or even Independents! You are Hilary Cultists! Please do not let common sense get in the way since your real goal is to destroy our country.

Alberto Gonzales may not be a bad Supreme Court justice and Rush Limbaugh as Secretary of State, what could it hurt? The Reverend Governor Huckleberry will be VP, unless the old guy goes on to his reward before his term is over. The Huckster has a good record on women’s rights, if you forget that whole women are subservient to men thing. What’s a hundred more years in Iraq, the new war with Iran will take your mind off that. Gasoline at 8 or 10 bucks a gallon will be worth it if you can make your point - Hilary or To Hell With Everything Else!

By southfulton

May 23, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Please tell me why his race is an issue. He’s not black…He’s mixed. He was not raised with a black experience and certainly isn’t truthfully African American so to me, he represents everything unique about this country. I’ll support him…clearly on how he makes me feel because bush screwed me and didn’t make me feel good..at least make me feel good, while you’re screwing me.

By Jaye

May 23, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

I agree with the comments by By Jay Bookman entirely.

By DFW1

May 23, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

You are ridiculous….Everybody seems to be gearing up to blame Hillary if Obama loses in the fall…Be clear,,,,if Obama loses, it will be HIS fault….(and I intend to vote FOR him….)

By Brown-Eyed Girl!

May 23, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

For those that keep bring up experience, we have had so called “experience” in the White House for the past almost eight (8) years. How’s that been working out?

By Deborah

May 23, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

The DNC tried to screw the voters of Flo. and Mich. by holding them responsible for their assinine decision to punish and entire state for the inept communication skills and wills of 2 or more self serving egotistical officials. Damn right she should raise hell. Hillary is proving that she is interested in bigger things than even the presidency….protecting freedom of voting rights in America, far outweigh any contest. What I don’t understand is why so many people (or repeat Republican bloggers) are so fearful of these two states having their vote in an election that is neck in neck in popular votes. Come on people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together…we all deserve the right to vote in this primary, and no hack government officials should have the right to take that right away. It is preposterous to think this “rule” should not be not only changed, but obliterated. The Democratic party has been under poor leadership, in dire need of repair, long before this election began. Hillary knows this….the DNC insiders in the Hillary camp know this, and are behind this action completely. You may as well let it be, because the people will have their say.

By joe

May 23, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Obama may (or may not) have made race and issue, but his supporters have definately made race an issue. That is what disturbs me; the supporters voting because he is “not white” (as opposed to being black, for those who want to claim mixed does not qualify as black.)

By Kiki

May 23, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

If the DNC decides to seat the delegates according to the actual votes (no 50-50 deal), Obama still leads in pledged delegates and most likely popular vote when all is said and done. The Superdelegates will not overturn the will of the people, it would destroy the party. So what are you Hillary supporters going to do when this happens? Hold the rest of the Democratic party and the country hostage because your feelings are hurt? I don’t understand how any Hillary supporter could vote for McCain over Obama. Obama and Hillary’s positions are so very close, whereas McCain wants to continue the Iraq war, start a new war with Iran, and pretty much continue the Bush policies. How can you vote for McCain in good conscience?

By KenFromCalifornia

May 23, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

hillary clinton is selfish. she is “…leading in popular votes”, but ONLY if you don’t count the 250,000 votes checked in the “uncommitted” box. if you take those uncommitted votes and split them 50/50 between barack and john edwards, hillary is way behind. but, since the rules don’t benefit her, she wants the rules changed. just like malcolm x predicted she would.

By KEEPING IT REAL!

May 23, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

WELL,WELL,WELL WHAT HAVE WE GOT GOING ON TODAY? LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF RETIRED PEOPLE AT HOME WATCHING TV. GAS, AND FOOD IS TOO HIGH SO YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GO SHOPPING. SO WHAT DO BUT BEAT UP ON POOR OLD JAY! JAY’s JUST A GOOD OLD GA BOY WHO IS TRYING TO MAKE ENUF $$ SO HE CAN FEED HIS WIFE AND CHILLINGS! NOW I AM GOING TO MAKE PLAIN TO YALL YOU HERE!! FEBRUARY 05

By Cant stop lovin' U

May 23, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Hillary would make a great president and it would be fantastic for this country if she was nominated. It doesn’t matter how you get into the white house, Bush proved that.

SO did Nixon.

So did Lincoln.

So did George Washington.

So did Hitler. Yes, I said Hitler. Why Hitler? Because Hitler admired america and the way we dealth with our peculiar “injun” problem. He like it real good, like a fascist dictator should.

So, Hitler decides for us: Hillary is our next president, and Obama is our Vice President, destined to be our president in eight years.

It’s a win/win, zeig heil, blitzkreig solution for a mamby-pamby brainless country filled with mindless numbskulls like America is thanx to television, dope, booze, and pornography.

USA: The great satan? no, the big dummy.

By KEEPING IT REAL!

May 23, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

CONTINUED…. DELAYED BY WEATHER. FEBRUARY 05, 2008 GA. RESULTS… HILLARY 330,026 (31.1%), OBAMA 704,247 (66.4%) THE OTHER DEMS 26,578 (2.5%) TO ONLY REGISTERED GA VOTERS!!!! KEEPING IT REAL,YALL

By Kiki

May 23, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

If you can continue to support Hillary Clinton after she makes a statement like this today, something must be wrong with you.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05232008/news/nationalnews/whyhillwontdropout_bobbykennedywa112232.htm

She makes me sick to my stomach, and is starting to look like a pathetic excuse for a female candidate to me. She did not have to stoop this low.

By Kiki

May 23, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05232008/news/nationalnews/whyhillwontdropout_bobbykennedywa112232.htm

By Kiki

May 23, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Sorry, I guess the link is too long. I’ll just come out and say it. Hillary basically said today while campaigning in South Dakota that the reason she is staying in the race is that Obama may be assassinated. Check DrudgeReport for the link to the NY Post article. This woman has no scruples.

By michael

May 23, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

Sorry, but the only way he can win is to have Clinton on the ticket. Despite what the press has said he has not hugely swept the country. If he had he wouldn’t need the help of the superdelegates !

The V.P. has little power, and it’s ALL delegated by the president. It would be the safest place for her in Obama’s world.

If he truly wants to bring the party together this could be his first step But I afraid Obama has just as much ego as Clinton, however he’s a man so I guess that makes it OK!

By R

May 23, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Jay stop this at once. I am so tired of everyone saying that all of the candidates agreed to the rules, that MI and FL delegates were not going to be seated. It was well known that when that aggreement was made, all of the candidates, the leaders of the DNC, and MI and FL Democratic leaders thought that the primary would not be this close and the delegates would be seated. The problem started when Obama, and Edwards had the names removed from the MI ballot as a gesture to Iowa voters. The problem only grew as Obama took the lead, with Hillary Clinton needing the votes to catch up. Once Obama secures enough delegates for the nomination regardless of the FL and MI results, they will be seated. As an American, I can do nothing but applaud Hillary Clinton for fighting to get the legitimate votes counted. Why should the DNC be able to tell the Florida state goverment or the Michigan state government when it can hold its primaries? The government of the United States of America doesn’t even do that. I once called myself a Democrat. I no longer do. No matter which candidate you support, take the time to and look at the leadership of the DNC and the mess they have gotten themselves into, and the lack of initiative they have to change it for the better, and decide if this is really a “Party” you want to associate yourself with. A party that is guilty of every wrong-doing that they have accused Republicans of, in the past. The Republicans did it, and the Democrats are doing it and none of them expect anyone to make a real change.

By John

May 23, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Wake up Hillary supporters, it’s not about her it’s about HIM. The American people don’t want a sexual pervert back in the White House. What a mess that would be, but I guess it all depends on “what the meaning of IS IS.” And I am amazed that there are democrats who have forgoten she still supports this criminal.

By Confused

May 23, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

I’m a Republican and I’m voting for Obama. John McCain can’t be trusted. No one really knows what he stands for TODAY!

By Cant stop lovin' U

May 23, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

McCain 08: He’s got more vigor than a bowl of soup.

Obama 08: A Man. An American. A President.

Hillary 08: A woman who is truly alone out there. Hello in there, Hillary. Can you hear us? Stop. You’re not president. You got half the democrats to vote for you, and that’s nice, but Obama is the nominee. Put down the broom and join the real world, WitchHazel.

By JD

May 23, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

Senator Clinton, please go away! Thank you.

By Cant stop lovin' U

May 23, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

Ralph Nader did more damage to the world than Attila the hun and Tarus Bulbar combined. History will finger this guy as the 666 beast. The description in the bible of the 666 antichrist matches the chevy corvair to a model T.

By JKan

May 24, 2008 12:39 AM | Link to this

“Hillary is inspirational. Despite all the false and unreasonable attacks from MSM, DNC, Obama campaign, and traitor-supporters, Clinton is pushing on where others would be in a state of nervous exhaustion. She is surely qualified to be president and is the best person for the job. The race is a dead heat and yet Hillary has been asked to drop our since Iowa. Her supporters, like myself, will definitely crossover to McCain in Nov. if she is not the nominee!”

Amen.

By TJ

May 24, 2008 2:31 AM | Link to this

The DNC will be totally to blame if the democrats loses the presidential election. This should in no way be blamed on Hillary. This election was rigged in flavor of Obama from the start by the DNC. Now they want someone to blame for their stupid decisions. Hillary supporters will not vote for the Obama in the general election because of all the dirty tactics played on Hillary by the media, Obama and his supporters, the DNC, and democratic leaders.

By h ryder

May 24, 2008 3:50 AM | Link to this

The only major difference between Mrs. Clinton and Al Gore/John Kerry/etal. She is female.

By Bill

May 24, 2008 4:22 AM | Link to this

What happen to, “if the superdelegates change their votes to Hillary and she wins the primary their will be riots in the street.” But now that Hillary’s delegates and other superdelegates are switching to Obama, all we hear is praise. Sounds like hypocriscy to me.

By Andrew L.

May 24, 2008 5:50 AM | Link to this

“Due Diligence” for ali

A short list of Obama’s accomplishments in his 3.5 years as a Senator (there are many more):

His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included: *the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law), *The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law), *The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, *The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law), **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.

In all, since HE entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record for someone who supposedly has no record according to the spin meisters and political pundits. I challenge Clinton supporters to name many, if any, legislative accomplishments that demonstrates her self-acclaimed “superior” experience.

Barack Obama wants to go to Washington to serve, just as he has been doing for 20 years.

WE THE PEOPLE, need to give him a 60% margin of victory in the Senate, the House, and of course, the Presidency, to really enable him to accomplish the goals clearly outlined in his “Blueprint for Change”

Ali, it’s your turn to provide insight into your pick for President. As stated, I suggest you read “The Audacity of Hope”.

By Andrew L.

May 24, 2008 6:48 AM | Link to this

As for Obama’s experience, what we’re trying to do here is elect a leader of the Federal Government; not just someone who knows how to attack or fight (which leads to an impasse, like with HRC and WJC over health care reform. Eight years and nothing accomplished!), but someone who knows how to unite people around a common cause, then to accomplish great goals. It does take cooperation in DC to get things done!

Note that Abraham Lincoln had about the same experience level as Obama when he entered the Oval Office and he didn’t turn out too bad as a President. Both Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson had their detractors, even to this day.

If Obama didn’t have great skills to lead, would it make sense for Ted Kennedy to endorse BHO over HRC? With all the weight of the importance of such an endorsement from Ted, Caroline, and Patrick if there was any doubt at all that he would make a great President, why would Ted Kennedy risk such an action? The Lion of the Senate is beholding to no man.

And from Laurence Tribe, arguably one of the most astute Constitutional scholars of our day, a testimony, “I can’t pretend that I had any idea then that he would be a serious presidential candidate — that would have been a crazy thing for anyone to project at that stage of a career — but he was certainly the most all-around impressive student I had seen in decades,” said Tribe, for whom Obama served as a research assistant.

Unfortunately, those who claim Obama is “just an empty suit” shows serious signs of having an empty head!

In November, Obama will defeat McCain by a minimum of 341-197, with 525-13 being possible, if people can get beyond their stupid race concerns.

Incidentally, Obama is not black, he is both white and black. He is simply sporting a “natural tan” and I think if most people were honest with themselves, they would realize that color of skin scores a zero on importance of qualifying a candidate for the Presidency. It matters zero, nada, zilch. Race and gender are simply the issues the under-educated fret over — not even relevant in today’s world.

In November, the down ballots loses for the Repubs will be extensive, leading to a 60-40% majority in both chambers of Congress. Mark my word, it’s going to be a Democratic Party rout come November. Oh happy day.

By George

May 24, 2008 7:48 AM | Link to this

Hillary is psychotic and needs to go to Ridgeview not the White House.

By Dee

May 24, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

Did any of the Pundits STOP and THINK.Senator Clinton is subject to assassination as are Senators Obama and McCain and their families. I support Senator Clinton in her campaign for all States to Vote and be counted. The TV cable news networks are now like Talk Radio.

By Deb

May 24, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

Of course they should be counted I’m not a Clinton supporter - but I agree with a previous poster. It’s not the people’s fault that they voted early. And if it were my vote that wasn’t counted I would be upset - wouldn’t you? Fair is fair!

By George

May 24, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

This is pretty comical.

No matter how bizarre or outrageous Hillary gets, there is always someone ready by the keyboard to defend her.

Ha ha

By Georgia

May 24, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Sen. Clinton had three of her campaign members on the committee that decided that if Florida and Michigan violated the party rules, then their votes would not count and the candidates would not campaign there. She signed the agreement along with the other Democratic candidates. Now that she is losing she wants to change the rules.

If everybody did not follow the rules established then the country would be in chaos. Clinton Supporters do what is right and just and honor the rules.

Many of her supporters says that if she is not on the ticket they will not vote or vote for McCain. That statement says alot about the people ethics and moral character. I am a woman and would like to see a woman as the president, but Sen. Clinton is not the person. Her moral and ethical character is too low for me to respect or promote. She has run a nasty, vicious, destructive campaign and I can not condone or accept such actions.

By George

May 24, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Hillary’s How Else Can I Offend You Tour just keeps going and going…

By tony

May 24, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this

What happened to every vote counts. I think the DMC is wore worried about DNC than USA. Florida and Michigan paid for their promaries who the heck is the DNC to ignore thier votes!!

By pamplinc@yahoo.com

May 26, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

No and she should just get out of the race!!!!!!!!!!!