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Hillary’s expiration date
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
By staying in the race long after it was apparent she had lost, Hillary Clinton has won a lot of grudging admiration as a fighter, voiced even by some who otherwise despise her. But when do tenacity and drive cross the line into stubbornness, foolishness or even obsession?
I think that line is in sight. Clinton has clearly become the third horse in a two-horse race, drawing little attention and becoming increasingly irrelevant as John McCain and Barack Obama focus their attention exclusively on each other.
And at some point, a cause for admiration can become a reason for ridicule, especially when the excuses for staying in become more and more flimsy. With primaries today in Kentucky and Oregon, the expiration date for her campaign is looming.




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By Redneck
May 20, 2008 7:18 AM | Link to this
As a ultraconserv I am extremely happy that the Hildabeast has hung in as long as she has. It has forced BHO to show some of his true colors, like his communistic statement yesterday about the fuel crisis. My only hope is that the brain dead wake up before they elect Karl Marx Jr.
By Copyleft
May 20, 2008 7:32 AM | Link to this
Sorry, Redneck, but Obama’s just what we need to return America to its proud, LIBERAL roots. The Republicans had their turn, and it was an utter disaster. No one’s voting for them this time.
By Charles
May 20, 2008 7:39 AM | Link to this
Borrowing a line from Barrack’s friend, Jeremiah Wright, the Democrap Party’s “chickens have come home to roost”. By supporting this megalomaniac and her philandering “husband” (it’s not really a marrige - just a union of political convenience) for years the Democraps have created a problem that will be interesting to watch. There is no telling what the next move by the Clintons will be - whether it be subversive (very likely, although their friends in the mainstream press are not on board this time) or they continue to press the unelectability of Obama (Wright, Ayers, Ms. Obama, et. al.).
By BIGkid
May 20, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this
I have never understood a redneck’s logic but there will few little places left for them in society they are a social cancer.they are the fuel that drives the divide and conquer concept.Obama’s supported by the real true white people of america,the decent,honest ones who don’t hide behind racism because of their self-esteem or personal sucess in their own life.Thank God for Truth it shall stand no matter what evil men do.
By Rosemary
May 20, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this
I fail to see how anyone can admire the Clintons for staying in the race. it is pure,selfish, self-interest. Her followers, need her to be a strong leader, Now. they all need to get behind the Party , and stop behaving like silly children . Respect Hillary Clinton?.. what for.
By Wild Bill Hiltner
May 20, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this
I was a Reagan foot soldier and never a Hillary fan. That said Hillary ran against overwhelming odds (i.e. extreme media bias)and honorably acted in America’s best interest when she warned the Dems that Obamalamadingdong was unvetted. I came respect her and, every once in a while, would see her on TV and think that she was kind of hot. She deserved to win the Dem primary so that she could be beaten by a Republican in the general. On to Obamalamadingdong, he is just another John Kerry - how can he credibly speak about leadership, when he voted “present” more than any other Illinois legislator ever, how can he credibly speak about ending partisan politics, when he is the most far left candidate ever, how can he credibly speak of truth when he denies that, for 20 years, he did not know who Rev (not so)Wright was. Absent, a totally stupid electorate, only McCain has the history or reaching across the aisle and speaking truth no matter the consequences - “Oh Jay” Bookman, looks like you might have to endorse a Republican this fall least your endorsement be little more than, “I’m a liberal hack and Obamalamadindong is the most liberal candidate of them all.” God bless America - and no one else.
By Rene
May 20, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this
Go and hide under a rock Hillary and take Geraldine Ferraro with you…. I have had enough of this Lady Macbeth attitude. You have tried to reinvent yourself too many times and this one seems to suit you pretty well….The VICTIM. Hillary Clinton, you owe all the women in this country an apology for so blatantly ruining their chances of running for President in the future because of the selfish way you ran your campaign.
By CJKatl
May 20, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this
She doesn’t look like a strong fighter. She looks like a very weak person who cannot handle the truth.
Throughout her history, Hillary has shown the inability to handle the truth. Rather than deal with situations the way they exist, she creates a fantasy world; she loses touch with reality. Bosnia, Northern Ireland, her marriage, and, now, the primary, show that when the going gets tough, she ignores the going and lies to herself and those around her.
A strong person could accept the truth. A weak person resorts to lies. When was the last time we applauded a person who ignored truth? Resorted to lie?
Rather than being a sign of strength, this shows a very weak, dishonest, fragile person. Why doesn’t anyone call her on this?
By saywhat
May 20, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this
The only reason Hillary is still hanging around is so that she CAN gain (in her mind) admiration from people who may have been setting on the fence. So that people will say 4 years from now - when she is running again - “that poor Hillary, look how hard she fought last time and would not give-up or give-in - she must really care”. All of this is just a scheme for her run in 2012. She has really known since February that she couldn’t win - like I said - she is now running for 2012. As usual, all of this highly calculated by the power hunger Clintons.
By Speech Writer
May 20, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this
McCain? I’ve seen more vigor in a bowl of soup, man.
By DeKalb Voter
May 20, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
As a Republican I am enjoying the dog and pony show the Democrats are carrying on. As a Republican I am also pleased that it looks like it will be Obama instead of Hillary come fall. He is so much easier to beat than she potentially is. She can carry some of the demographic of voters that he will fail miserably in carrying and that’s the middle of the road white males, commonly referred to as blue collar voters. Without this block of voters, simply put, you can’t win without this support. Imagine the airwaves and television screens, over and over, repeating the messages of Rev. Wright and Mrs. Obama saying how until now, she has never been proud of her country. If you don’t think these words will come back to haunt him, you’re politically naive beyond help. Ask John Kerry how hard the swiftboat campaign derailed his chances. Far left liberals will discount this and they will think that middle Amercia will be voting like them but all you have to do is look at the results of the past few primary election, like the one we will see in KY tonight and the writing is on the wall. If she does better than expected in Oregon tonight, he is even worse off than I first thought possible. The Obama fairytale is about to come to an end; it’s time to end the book, turn off the lights and put the kids to bed. Say night-night.
By Reebok
May 20, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
Don’t pick on McCain. You’ll be senile when you’re 100 years old, too. And who cares if he can’t keep all that Iran/Iraq/Sunni/Shiite stuff straight…who’s got time for that kind of detail??
If you travel much - and thus get out of the echo chamber of the ultra-conservative deep South - you already know that Obama is going to crush McCain in November.
By Rosemary
May 20, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this
Yes Rene& CJKatl ……, I completely agree with you both … I live in Australia.. and we have a woman as deputy prime minister . (VP) and a LARGE number of women in senior positions in Federal Parliament .. The state of Queensland , where I live has a woman as Premier..(Governor) They don’t get miffed and cry foul and act like victims .. when the going gets tough .. Honestly , just watching this performance from Hillary and her female followers behaving like spoiled children because they played dirty and still lost…is 1950’s. Do they expect special treatment because they are women ?.. I am shocked .. Hillary living out her delusions and fantasies on the world stage.. has nothing to do with the feminist movement . They are all acting like Victims…
Beyond all this Gender and Race.. you have people… and Hillary Clinton is not the kind of person you need representing women in your country . It is embarrassing.
By Gary
May 20, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
let me see if I understand the major premises of this debate; We want someone who does not respect the sanctity of live (voted for late term abortions), someone who does not respect the sanctity of traditional marriages (foundation of civilization—see history), someone who wants to repeal tax cuts (12 percent increase), someone who wants to provide illegal immigrants with health and other naturalized benefits (08 percent tax increase) these are only a few of the issues but enough to cause pause.
By Liberalus
May 20, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
CHELSEA CLINTON IN 2016 !!!
By Speech Writer
May 20, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Chelsea Clinton is the new Eleanor Roosevelt. Nature is cruel. Have you seen her dance? A real clydesdale.
By hillary, bill and chelsea - GET OFF THE STAGE - ITS OVER !!!
May 20, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
**hillary is like a bad check-she just won’t go away !!! She and bill have displayed themselves as sore losers. They have had their chance in the White House - not they need to GET OUT OF THE WAY FOR A NEW GENERATION AND A NEW WAY OF DOING THINGS !!! The people have spoken loud and clear to them - they have said, hillary is not entitled to ANYTHING !!
Now get off the state. The curtain is down, the lights are off, the mike is off and the superdelegates have gone !
By Sarah
May 20, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
I find it amusing, as well as scary that none of the mainstream news agencies carried the on-air flub of Obama saying he’s taken all 57 states in the union and now he is going for 57? What states is this idiot of a man referring to? Iran? Saudi? Jordon? Syria? I suppose dems are too gray-matter challenged to have realized his mistake. McCain may be old, but apparently he has more active brain cells than the less than bright Obama will ever have. The Sunni/S** flub McCain made a couple of times was laughable…we see that now, but come on, to not know how many states the country you want to head up has is just not acceptable. I don’t want a President who required an act of affrimative action (obviously) to graduate college.
By Redneck
May 20, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
Whats the matter BIGkid you still need someone to wipe your hiney and tell you when to eat and what? Thats BHO’s plan. GUBMINT control every facet of your life. I don’t need him or the government because I am an individual who knew and still knows how to take care of myself and my family.
By Independent
May 20, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
Copyleft no one is actually voting FOR the liberals either, they are voting against what has happened to the republican party.
By Kiki
May 20, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
Obviously the media didn’t cover the “57 states” flub because that’s just what it was: a flub. Anyone with a brain can see that he meant 47 states. You people are grasping at straws, it’s quite entertaining.
This comment is unrelated to the Hillary topic, but has anyone seen this headline yet:
Headline in today’s Jerusalem Post: “Bush Intends to Attack Iran Before the End of His Term”
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1210668683139&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Thoughts???
By mamaj
May 20, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Hillary was my first choice for our future president, but this woman is as stubborn as an old mule. When she started slinging the mud against Obama and lying at every turn, I became totally turned off by her—AND by her husband Bill, whom I would have voted for for a third term, in a heartbeat- but no more. Enough is enough. The Fat Lady sang weeks ago, and she turned a deaf ear. Someone please get her AND her mouthpiece Geraldine Ferraro, a hearing aid and turn up the volume. “Ladies it’s time to G-O go”!!
By Mr. B
May 20, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
Spoken like a true redneck Mr. Redneck! Its people like you that are going to keep things more confusing than they really have to be! Its time for Hillary to step aside before we end up with George W. Bush all over again! I don’t think any of us want that! McCain is too old and has too many George Bush like thoughts! It really is time for change!
By Get Real
May 20, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Redneck, what do you think Bush and his boys have been doing with the war on terror. They tap your phones, look in your bank accounts, even refuse some innocent people from boarding a plane. All in the name of national security. This is regardless of you taking care of your family or not.
By Earl
May 20, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Blue collar workers will determine this election just as we have in the past. FYI: Hillary and Obama are much more alike than McCain and Bush are. Ig you had an once of political sense you’d know that McCain has been a thorn in the side of Bush for years. McCain is a maverick, he has gone up against his own party many times to reach across party lines and work with democrats. He will continue to do so when he is elceted in the fall. If Obama can’t score a knock out with this old woman, do you really think he can win against McCain? Hell no.
By Syena
May 20, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
Everyone,just hit-“The Clinton Chronicles”in any search engine.”Nuff said”.
By Mr. B
May 20, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Dekalb Voter
I’m glad you think its going to be do easy to beat Obama. You’ll be lucky if McCain lives through November! Or maybe the Rebubs will have to cheat like they did in Florida ha? I don’t think so! Young americans will decide this election and I don’t think they want an old man
By Independent
May 20, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
Hey GetReal, Can you provide proof that Bush and his boys actually tapped your phones or looked in your bank accounts? If you have proof I am sure that the AJC would like to cover the story. Why do both party’s use fear to push agendas to have voters to vote for them. I mean we have people saying that “we dont want another Bush administration”. We have people saying MCCain in too old. We have people saying Clinton is dishonest(guess what most politicians are) We have people saying Obama plays the race card. What ever happened to Vote for our party because we could do this to better the country?
By Republicans for Obama
May 20, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
Is this the place for Racist and Fear Mongerers to reside? Stop your useless hate babble. His name is Barack Hussein Obama. Funny, names never MAKE the man, now does it? I remember a “Boy Named Sue.” Old Johnny cash song, he wasn’t that bad a guy if you listened to the lyrics. If you scared people would listen to his “Lyrics” then your hate would subside. Billary thought she was going to be coronated. Instead she got clobbered from her own arrogance. Now she’s trying to use “Fuzzy Math” to try and get the nom or somehow force Sen. Obama to add her to the ticket. Please refer back to the term..”arrogance.” As one blogger put it, “What will tommorow mean?” Answer: “Areatha Franklin is tuning up to sing.”
By Tommy
May 20, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Folks—it ani’t over till the fat lady sings and she bought a ticket to Denver. Obama can’t lay a knock out punch. Too much baggage and not enough experience. The Clinton machine is the best the dems have and it keeps hanging on. Obama’s lack of a record in congress, lack of wisdom in staying in a church with a racist pastor, lack of truthfulness about his background—he might not be a Moslem but his name is Islamic and both his father and grandfather were Moslems, lack of control of his wife, lack of understanding of winning the war, lack of votes in MI and FL—-these are just some of he reasons he cant win.
By Syena
May 20, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
I have discovered the Clintons 'ace in the hole".They have a scandal brewing for Obama,and it fits their "modus operandi".I am a writer and researcher.While researching one subject on a popular site,I discovered why Hillarys still running.The owner of this site has been interviewing a person accusing Obama of using cocaine with him and someones sending him a lot of support.Hes obviously poor,yet the medias interviewing him under the mainstream medias sight.If permitted after you read the Chronicles,I`ll share the site with all.Peace
By Debbie Roebkes
May 20, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
I applaud Hillary—if BHO wins the nomination, I am voting for McCain!
By GOPs got to go
May 20, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
Both Hillary and Barrack have run good campaigns. I voted Obama, my daughter voted Clinton. I can live with either one. What I can not live with is any more of this GOP BS, fear mongering crap. The youth will carry this election. Clearly Obama will win. Remember it is the youth fighting and dying everyday in an unnecessary war brought on by the GOP. They have a vested interest that Mr and Mrs Right-Wing do not.
By DeKalb Voter
May 20, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
The mere fact that young voters actually turn out the least numbers of any voting block in the general election only proves how politically naive you are, Mr. B.
By dawgoneit
May 20, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
Name ten bills or pieces of legislation that Barack Hussein Obama has sponsored and helped pass while in Congress. Give me his legislative accomplishments. Explain to me how he can call his pastor a man who was “like a father,” and not know how racists he was. Explain to me how you can reasonably sit down with Iran without making them think that you see their terroristic bent as legitimate. Share with me why your wife has never been proud of her country, yet she has been coddled by it all her life. If I can get a reasonable explanation for those things, I might feel differently about the Senator from Illinois.
By Mike
May 20, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
Syena,
I heard this guy on an Atlanta radio station - allegedly he did more than used drugs with then-State-Senator Obama.
He has little to no credibility, which is why he’s being interviewed by the “Regular Guys” instead of George Stephanolopoulos. Not even my friend who worked for the Huckabee campaign believes this mess.
By Russell
May 20, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Hillary is teaching Democrats how not to continuously “quit” like we did in 2000 and 2004. Two elections that we could have won had we fought hard enough. Wanting her to quit now only shows that we’ve never learned the lesson of “finishing” what we’ve started.
By The Troof
May 20, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
“Clinton has clearly become the third horse in a two-horse race, drawing little attention and becoming increasingly irrelevant…”
Irrelevant is correct: Let’s go to the Googlefight, shall we?
Searching in Google News, Obama gets 138,613 hits this morning.
Clinton gets 66,185 (less than half).
Put a fork in her; she’s done.
By jacksmith
May 20, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
HILLARY CLINTON IS THE GREATEST CAMPAIGNER IN AMERICAN HISTORY !!!
HILLARY CLINTON CAN BEST WIN IN NOVEMBER:
IT’S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!
It’s time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania, and loss in Indiana and West Virginia makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.
Sen. Obama has zero chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources without Hillary Clinton. Zero chance.
It is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.
Hillary Clinton say’s that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Sen. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.
Sen. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Sen. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton’s have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.
If Sen. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.
Don’t be fooled by the pledged delegate, and math arguments. Neither candidate has the necessary pledged delegates. The entire delegates counts, and votes from Florida, and Michigan are not even being counted. Plus the democratic caucuses, and primarys have been heavily corrupted by fraud, and vote cheating. The only relevant question now is who can best WIN IN NOVEMBER and take back the Whitehouse for the American people. And the answer is HILLARY CLINTON. Everyone knows that now.
Sincerely
Jacksmith… Working Class :-)
p.s. Cynthia Ruccia - I’m with ya baby. All the way. “Clinton Supporters Count Too.”
By cincyr
May 20, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
It’s one thing to stay in the race, it’s another to delude your supporters into thinking you can still win. But maybe she has to do that so they’ll keep sending money and she can pay down her campaign debt.
By jacksmith
May 20, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
IT’S ABOUT ELECTABILITY !!!
MY FELLOW “BITTER”, STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE :-)
If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of “BITTER”!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary’s than they had ever been before or since.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..
You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)
Best regards
jacksmith… Working Class :-)
p.s. You Might Be An Idiot! :-)
If you don’t know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering…
You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. :-)
Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don’t die from. And I could go on, and on…
OBAMA AIDE: “WORKING-CLASS VOTERS NOT KEY FOR DEMOCRATS” :o
p.s. Cynthia Ruccia - I’m with ya baby. All the way. “Clinton Supporters Count Too.”
By h ryder
May 20, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Clinton believes that most everyone else is out of step but her. That is the primary reason she is rejected by more than half of the voting population. What she thinks of herself and what others think of her are negatively correlated.
By joyce
May 20, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
I agree with Redneck and Wild Bill Hiltner, and I am not prejudice. Race has nothing to do with my concerns over HBO. I would have voted for C. Powell in a heartbeat had he ran after Desert Storm. Obama can only make speeches. He has little of the necessary substance to get this country going in the right direction and keeping it safe. I don’t trust him.
By Jack
May 20, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
It appears that most bloggers have finally realized that Hillary is a desperate individual unfit for public office. They should also Google James Cone before they decide to support Obama. McCain is really to old for the job but he is likely the only candidate the jihadists might fear.
By GeezGuys
May 20, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
She still looks better than Obama, who has problems in large, diverse (read: not large African-American populations) States that hold primaries, not caucuses. A caucus allows gullible college emo types to cram in and stuff the voting booth. Texas was typical: Clinton won the popular vote, Obama won the caucus, he got more delegates. He’s a loser candidate.
Get ready for President McCain, who should have been the Republican candidate in 2000 instead of McChimpy. By now McCain would have Obama’s head on a stick outside the White House.
By Dekalb Democrat
May 20, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Dekalb Voter, If you really think that the American public would put up with another third Bush term, you are sicker than you sound. The Republicans are already losing House Seats nationally they would have never lost 4 years ago. All because of the current idiot in the White House. Say what you want to, but McCain’s Jeremiah Wright is on the way.
By Thor
May 20, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
I’m 40 years old and I’m tired of the generation in power who is older than me. These people have given us divisive politics, war, deficits - this generation of Baby Boomers is the worst generation ever. They take everything, suck us dry and provide nothing for the future.
Baby Boomers, just please die off….
By Sarah
May 20, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
DeKalb Democrat, the fact that you live in DeKalb greatly reduces your credibility.
By IronyMan
May 20, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
I think it’s really sad that Hillary Clinton and her supporters want to make this thing about feminism, women’s rights etc. I would like to challenge Geraldine Ferraro on her comment about Barack Obama being “terribly sexist”. Give an example please?
No one seems to see a problem with this. The question was posed yesterday on a news program about why Barack Obama hasn’t chosen to play the race card about why so called “working class whites” won’t vote for him in places like Ohio, Kentucky, WV, Penn…the answer, “he’s above it”. I agree, he has to be. Nobody wants to seem to speak the truth about this. Race has been used against him from the beginning, but he hasn’t complained. Only kept pushing to outraise and outcampaign.
How about not shedding tears when the going gets tough, have your surrogates testify to the size of your “cojones”, requesting points for doing your makeup, or feeling like “Goldilocks” Hillary?? Then maybe you might be taken more seriously.
By Dekalb Democrat
May 20, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
Thanks Sarah, I sure you reside in one of those Republican bastions. Real credible…
By Andrew
May 20, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
Who gives a fluff about experience? Bush Jr. had executive experience when he got ‘elected’ and see where it got us. I was GOOD judgment, not POOR experience.
Its high time our country’s power is wrested away from the neo-COMmen and religious lunatics.
By ALLTHEHATE
May 20, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
To: Debbie Roebkes If you are for Hilary and BHO wins the nomination whose platforms are so similar, why would you vote for McCain whose platform is the opposite? That is so ignorant. You would rather suffer another four years under GOP rule than try to make some major changes for all Americans in the next four years? NO BHO can’t do everything in then next four years but I sure would like to start making some kind of change. Or is it because you are in the upper echelon of the tax bracket so who cares about the little people. Well for the record I’m a Black woman. Educated at a Division I school of a population of 28,000. I ran for Executive Secretary of our University and won. Do you know what people of all races, told me? Congratulations! We needed a change because what we had in the past was not working out. Soooo sometimes we just have to take a chance on something new. Now I like BHO and Hilary, but I voted for BHO not because he was a Black man, but because when you compare a lot of their speehes BHO always says WE can and Hilary always says I can. I like to think I’m more motivated when you say WE can do it together. My time is half way over but I have a child who is only 11 and what happens in the next decade will gravely effect her future. So out of spite and hatred let’s vote for someone on the content of their character.
By 2dapoint
May 20, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
Hilary Clinton couldn’t run an effective campaign but she can effectively run the white house??
Laughable.
I have a news flash for you fools, THE WAY A CANDIDATE RUNS THEIR CAMPAIGN IS EXACTLY THE SAME WAY THEY WILL RUN THE WHITE HOUSE.
And you need to look no further than the following:
Bush.. Karl Rove’s Bush campaign is exactly the same way they ran the White House.
By Peggy McGilligan
May 20, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Electability? Please. Before the Clinton’s began their end-run around the 22-Amendment, both knew there was a fatal flaw. The Clintons knew their role in bringing about CSUMB (the Clinton College). They appointed the corrupt Vermont Congressman who would run it, and even helped select who would graduate from it. The Clintons in fact orchestrated the entire process. “Bill and Hillary Clinton have always believed that they’re very different than the rest of us … they’ve learned one important and consistent lesson: that rules don’t matter. Rules don’t apply to them. Rules are for other people,” writes Dick Morris. Chances are you’ve heard nothing of CSUMB. Which begs the question: why? http://theseedsof9-11.com
Ps. For an excellent Hillary Clinton impersonation, That Hillary Show: www.rosemarywatson.com
By Lisa
May 20, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
Hey Rednecks,
Yeah, those old scare tactics work well on your demographics, the uneducated, hillbilly vote. You can keep it for McCain who thinks Putin is the President of Germany! Yeah he is a perfect fit for the GOP, Grand OLD (& I mean real OLD) party. Just hope his staffers continue to do their flycheck for him before he gets up on stage and holds the microphone-UPSIDE DOWN!
By Cubbie
May 20, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
Hey Dekalb Voter, before you throw mud, you may want to do a little spelling and grammar check. It might improve the credibility factor.
By Observer
May 20, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
I’m not being a race baiter here when I say that in this particular election when over ninety-one per cent of one race is overwhelmingly going for one candidate, there was no reserach done in their support. There was never any forethought given as to who would be the best candidate, him or her. It was all race based, all predicated on race. Historically speaking, in the past when all the whites voted for the white guy, blacks looked at this as the white man supporting one of their own and it was frowned up. Now blacks are doing it and they’re saying ..” Oh no, Obama being black has nothing to do with my choice.” That’s simply not true. It’s your vote, own it and vote for whomever you wish to, it’s your right. Just be honest about it, if you’re black you are voting for the man because he is black and qualifications are not a concern. There isn’t anything Obama could do or say now that would dissuade black voters from voting for him and in the big picture that’s very dangerous and scary. In the past whites voted for one of their own and sometimes came up with the short end of the stick by doing so, this could happen here too.
By Filbert
May 20, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
Hmm. I wonder whether, if Obama looses in November, the NAACP will file some kind of legal action claiming violation of civil rights, hate crime, etc.
By Chris
May 20, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
The present political races argueably have raised the awareness of many Americans, both Democrat and Republican. We can chastise each other over various issues, but at the end of the day, America (in my opinion) is in a very serious position…financially, politically, and evironmentally. At the end of the day, we need to pull together to ensure that ALL elected officials white, black, hispanic, or otherwise do what needs to be done to get OUR America back on track.
By Greg
May 20, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
Observer @ 12:25
If you’ll check the 2004 Exit Polls in the presidential election you’ll note that approximately 88% of African-Americans voted for Kerry, also. I don’t have any particular love/hate for Obama, but I think you’d find the same voting patterns in the A-A community no matter who the Democrat party runs. The A-A community favors big-government socialism while the white community looks to government (percentage-wise) far less so. Apparently, the black community really dislikes the green community since Nader received only a miniscule number of A-A votes.
I find this amusing on a number of visual levels.
By Steve
May 20, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
If old is the best shot you have at McCain, you’re not sitting too well. Ronald Reagan was no spring chicken and Obama ,in his wildest dreams, Obama could only hope to be compared to a Ronald Reagan. I don’t really think you all realize the strength of the Republican machine this junior unproven Senator will be up against. I will add this, if he (Obama) wins, he deserves it because he is in for one helluva fight. No matter who you vote for, just vote….too many people died for the right to do so!
By Steve
May 20, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
If old is the best shot you have at McCain, you’re not sitting too well. Ronald Reagan was no spring chicken and Obama ,in his wildest dreams, Obama could only hope to be compared to a Ronald Reagan. I don’t really think you all realize the strength of the Republican machine this junior unproven Senator will be up against. I will add this, if he (Obama) wins, he deserves it because he is in for one helluva fight. No matter who you vote for, just vote….too many people died for the right to do so!
By Lauren
May 20, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
Those of you who say Obama is not a good leader because he voted “present” in the Illinois legislature too many times don’t know what a “present” vote really means. Do you research! Jeez! Even Rush Limbaugh tried to clear this up for you guys and defended Obama’s votes. You just don’t know what you are talking about.
By Red Foreman
May 20, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
You Liberals are like cannibals…
By Steve-O
May 20, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Face it Republicans, your “revolution” of ‘94 was a big failure. You all have your turn to control things and you totally sucked at it. All your old rhetoric and tricks are not going to work this time. Folks are tired of you. Not only will you most likely lose the presidency but the Dems will definitely gain enough seats in the House to over-ride any veto McCain should send their way, should he be elected. And here’s another bit of info you need to chew on, IF McCain wins he will have to deal with Democratic control in the House and Senate and he has always been more than happy to play ball with us and stick it to his team in the process. So really, I prefer Obama and I will vote for him, but we are well adept at making McCain our lapdog so he will be okay, too.
By Lauren
May 20, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Wow, good one Red Foreman. That hurt!
By Laure
May 20, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Observer, in most elections, black people vote for the Democrat. This is not a new thing. They know racists when they see them which is by and large why they avoid Repubicans. Duh!
By Dave
May 20, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
Steve….Reagan was a MORON…and his “trickle down” theory…only hurt this country…he added fewer jobs to this economy than Clinton did…and by the time Clinton got the keys to the white house…(after 12 years of Reagan/Bush)…we had 7.5% unemployment… pretty friggin’ bad…. yet Clinton added more jobs to our economy in 8 years than Reagan/Bush did in 12!
LIBERALS have ALWAYS done better for the economy! Study after study has shown this…over and over again…
spin all you want…
Republicans SPEND us into debt…Liberals cure their mess…
This time…the debt will take a lifetime…
Glad you idiots voted for Dubya..TWICE….on VALUES!!!
What VALUES do you care of?
Ted Haggard? Mark Foley? Livingston? Newt?
Values mean making this country safe….
as 9-11 happened under BUSH’s watch…
over 4000 of our military died under HIS watch….over 1 million “innocent” Iraqi’s died under HIS watch…
as gas is now $4 a gallon under HIS watch…
one can’t spend, spend, spend, and borrow, borrow, borrow…without thinking there are things we need to PAY back!!!
GOP killed the EMPIRE…
to be honest…
that’s a GOOD THING!!!!
America is NOT the greatest…it once was…YOu idiots that voted for Dubya and CO…killed it!
Long live China, Russia, and India!!!
By Dave
May 20, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old Texas rancher, whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Barack Obama and his bid to be our President.The old anchersaid, ‘Well, ya know, Obama is a ‘post turtle’.’
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ‘post turtle’was.The old rancher said,’When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a ‘post turtle’.’The old man saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain.’You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there, and you just want to help the him get down.’
By Steve-O
May 20, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
I sincerely hope those two Dave posts were done by different Daves.
By Lynda
May 20, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this
An Obama supporter called last night, asking who I was supporting. I said, not your candidate, I support Sen. Clinton. He was very nice, but asked why. I said he lacks experience. The young man replied, that can be a good thing. !!!! Then, he wanted $$. We are in trouble and McCain isn’t an option!
By Mature
May 20, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
Time for Hillary to leave? No way. I speak for the Americans that have not had their chance to voice their opinion on which Democrat should represent them.
We all have a say / one vote. To not hear from “every” State/American including Florida and Michigan is an act nothing short of Dictatorship.
The “Super” Delegates speak for themselves and not for the Americans. What a fluke! I don’t care for a Dictatorship Government.
I want less Government. Make my own decisions (independant able thinker and doer). I pay enough taxes already. If you want Dictatorship and all of your money taken by the Government then move to another Country.
Until then, shut up, be patient and let all Americans have their vote.
By D'Angelo
May 20, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
How does it feel?..
Supporting a candidate who doesn’t have a snowballs chance in h3ll advancing to the next round of contests? (Hilary supporters)
Does it burn you up? Does it cause a seething anger to boil over in you? Then you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask yourself why…why do you hate America?
By Emma
May 20, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
BLACK AMERICANS” Vote, Vote,Vote. I don’t give a d#!n who you vote for. When s#?t doesn’t go your way in the courtroom, in this country in your communities, your schools DON’T say anything if your a@@ did not VOTE! Soooo many **people marched, died, was hunged, set afire, etc for us to have the right to vote. It’s not only your right to vote but it should be your DUTY in memory of those who fought for us. Nothing is eVER going to be perfect. If you don’t VOTE you are an idiot for wanting to stay in same state of nothingness. And if I ever come across you at any protest, rally for justice, etc and you haven’t voted in ANY election you get whatever the system is going to sock to you.
By Lynda
May 20, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
D’Angelo, this isn’t American Idol, with your next round.
I don’t hate America. I assume you think I do because I don’t agree with you? ????
By Immature
May 20, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
Hey Mature. You don’t sound too “mature” drinking the Clinton Kool-Aid. Need I remind you that Hillary didn’t give one SQUAT about your vote being counted when she intended to end this campaign on Super Tuesday as the inevitable candidate. She didn’t even raise the money to campaign past there, so all you fools in Pennsylvania, Kentucky, West Virginina etc who thinks Hillary cares so much about you, you’re just as nuts as she is. She only wants YOUR vote to count now because she’s LOSING!
The amount of money raised is a good indicator of viability. (Barack outraises)
It’s not about the caucus states..(Obama blows her away).
It’s about the number of delegates, not the popular vote or number of states (Obama surpasses in number of delegates)
IT’S NOT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF DELEGATES!! IT’S ABOUT ELECTABILITY!!
Y’all are pitiful!
By cliff zeider
May 20, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
Hey, I have been a Democrat all my life and always voted Democrat ticket, not this time, I am going for Bob Bar, a true American.
By noneya
May 20, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Thank GOD we don’t live in a democracy and that the electoral college will save us from the Obamamaniacs. Hillary can beat McCain….Obama doesn’t have a chance. He may win the popular vote but he’ll get trounced in electoral votes. Don’t believe me….try electoral-vote.com
By casagreed
May 20, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
Obama is the best candidate for the presidency, we all know that. He won Georgia, so why are you all so now aganist him? Hillary can’t believe that he is beating her, that’s why she is waiting on a scandle about him. She is killing time thinking that something will come up. As for Reagan, before he left office he was in the first stages of Alzhiemers disease. Nancy Reagan would stand close to him when he was speaking without a telepromter, and help him remember what to say. You could see her lips moving. I had not noticed, but the newscasters reported on it one day, and then I started to notice. He had no legislative record, he had been an actor in Hollywood all of his life, and won the election for presidency. Do you think he was really running the country? NO !!!
By 2008
May 20, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
I think she should hang in there. It’s much more entertaining watching her and BHO. I used to be a Dem, but I won’t be voting Dem this time. Folks better wake up and recognize the snooker job they’re getting - BHO is the liberal media darling.
By Myah Schlongissolong
May 20, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
Sign on a KFC billboard
HILLARY SPECIAL two fat thighs and a right wing, only .99 cents
By saywhat
May 20, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
Hey - Jacksmith - you ARE and Idiot. If you think no single American soldier was losts his/her life during Clinton’s reign - then you are short on history - I guess you forgot about Mogadishu and Bosnia, much less several others that Clinton had ordered kill (James McDougal, Ron Miller, Mary Mahoney (my honey according to Clinton), Vince Foster, Suzanne Coleman (said to have an affair w/Clinton - died of “suicide” with a shot to the back of the head (??) while 7 months pregnant), and Ron Brown, among a list of others.
You might just be the idiot if you think Clinton was responsible for the economic bull-run of the 90’s - those were basically Reagan policies and the effect of techinology on productivity (as in Microsoft)
You just might be the idiot if you think that because Hillary was Bill’s “right-hand” (could be a different hand): I guess that makes all the first ladies eligible to follow their husbands in office.
Oh well, I could go on and on - but I won’t, because if you haven’t figured out the Clinton’s by now then you just might be a idiot.
Cheers - Please don’t take this as being mean-spirited. We all need the idiot to keep things in perspective - and HRC is really showing us that now.
By blah, blah, blah
May 20, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
Dave at 1:22P - Facts and figures don’t lie, but if you present them just right, it’s almost as good.
By D'Angelo
May 20, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Oh but Lynda this IS American Idol. We have become and American Idol nation. You know it’s true.
You don’t have to agree with me, but it goes against ALL common sense that an individual would vote against their interests, out of spite for a candidate that is sure to further this country along its path of destruction. Who will continue along a path of bankrupting the middle class, pursue more wars and so on and so forth. Keep Washington broken by overunning in lobbyist influence and politics as usual. He has TOLD YOU SO.
But you would rather vote for anyone than vote for that half and half brother, Obama. You can admit it, it’s okay. And your probable reason..
By ATLborn
May 20, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
LOL I can tell the Repubs are scared of Obama. The posts on this blog about how “easy” he will to beat shows me that you all are very nervous. Yes, McCain is a maverick but he’s chosen to align himself too closely to Bush to win the general election. He would have faired far better against Billary and their baggage but he doesn’t have much of a rack to hang his hat on with Obama. Some of you keep harping on experience and that’s the main thing people in this country are tired of, politicians with experience in screwing this country up. Many people thought that hell would have to freeze over before a black man was elected president in the U.S. Now that our current politicians have us indebted to China and Japan with our debt still growing, gas prices through the roof so much that the average american is struggling filling up their tank so they can drive to work and with the high prices of groceries now that cold front is moving through hell as we speak with snow and ice predicted for November 4, 2008.
President Barack Obama…has a VERY nice ring to it.
By David
May 20, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
A longtime voter and Kentucky Republican here. I’ll be proudly voting for Obama in November. I’m saddened by all of the lies and distortions directed at him. If the other side won’t campaign on the issues, but only slings filth, it’s because that’s all they have. Wake up, people, and vote for an honest man. America needs this change.
By David
May 20, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
A longtime voter and Kentucky Republican here. I’ll be proudly voting for Obama in November. I’m saddened by all of the lies and distortions directed at him. If the other side won’t campaign on the issues, but only slings filth, it’s because that’s all they have. Wake up, people, and vote for an honest man. America needs this change.
By Myah Schlongissolong
May 20, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
HILLARY - SHARPTON 2012
By StNick
May 20, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
Since people like to ask for “one bill or piece of legislation that Obama has authored”..Here’s one off the bat:
http://obama.senate.gov/press/061211-lugar-obamabil1/
And people would have you believe Obama doesn’t love this country.
Don’t worry I’ll be posting more random ones from his US and State terms..
I’m getting ready to pull a Chris Matthews. People don’t ever expect to be called on their B.S. Tell all your friends..
By CJKatl
May 20, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
For the life of me, I don’t know what people find so appealing about Mrs. Clinton. She stands for nothing. She says whatever she thinks is necessary in the moment to get votes.
She claims 35 years of experience by asking everyone to look at the 28 years she was not in elected office, while not wanting you to consider Obama’s activities prior to being in the Senate. She wants you to believe she is for every vote counting - hence her Michigan argument - but does not include four states in her tally when she claims she’s leading in the popular vote. She claims she is a great leader, but ran a campaign that was rudderless. She wants you to think Obama’s “Annie Oakley” comparison was sexist, but that Bill’s “Jesse Jackson” camparison after the SC Primary was not. She wants you to believe that she’s been fighting for change for 35 years but doesn’t want the fact she cannot point to any change she’s made to come into play.
And when she’s pushed on any of these issues, she lashes out at the people who bring forward the truth, then ultimately tries to laugh off her previous statements with that shrill cackle. Look at how she went after Sinbad. Or how she’s trying to go after the press now. Or how she went after Gennifer Flowers, whom Bill later conceded, in a deposition, was, in fact, telling the truth.
It would be a shame if the Democratic Party were to offer up this untruthful, pandering, ill-accomplished, back-bench Senator as the best candidate for the Presidency. If Hillary truly is the best possible candidate, the Democratic Party is in deep, deep trouble. While I can understand those who might not want Obama clinging to her as the only alternative left, let’s not kid ourselves into thinking that if the perfect candidate were being chosen from scratch, the name Hillary Clinton would be on the top of anyone’s list.
The woman not only lacks leadership, but she lacks consistency; other than the consistency in her pandering for votes. Pity the weak minded who fall for her transparent lies and half-truths.
By "Hardworking American"
May 20, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
A former “community organizer” as president? Affirmative action is really working when a low-level social services employee gets to be POTUS.
How embarrassing.
By no real change
May 20, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
President Barack Hussein Obama -
If you haven’t read his book…”Dreams of My Father” you should. It will tell you a lot more about the man than the liberal media will! Form you own opinions don’t let the media do it for you!
I was somewhat charmed by the man and the idea of “change” then I read the book…
By StNick
May 20, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
If you take the time to just do a little research yourself, instead of letting radio talkshow hosts tell you what you should think or believe you will find much proposed legislation by Obama - stuff like this:
S.114 : A bill to authorize resources for a grant program for local educational agencies to create innovation districts.
S.115 : A bill to suspend royalty relief, to repeal certain provisions of the Energy Policy Act of 2005, and to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal certain tax incentives for the oil and gas industry.
S.116 : A bill to authorize resources to provide students with opportunities for summer learning through summer learning grants.
S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes
S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.
S.674 : A bill to require accountability and enhanced congressional oversight for personnel performing private security functions under Federal contracts, and for other purposes.
S.692 : A bill to amend title 38, United States Code, to establish a Hospital Quality Report Card Initiative to report on health care quality in Veterans Affairs hospitals.
S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.
S.737 : A bill to amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 in order to measure, compare, and improve the quality of voter access to polls and voter services in the administration of Federal elections in the States.
S.767 : A bill to increase fuel economy standards for automobiles and for other purposes.
S.795 : A bill to assist aliens who have been lawfully admitted in becoming citizens of the United States, and for other purposes.
S.823 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act with respect to facilitating the development of microbicides for preventing transmission of HIV/AIDS and other diseases, and for other purposes.
S.976 : A bill to secure the promise of personalized medicine for all Americans by expanding and accelerating genomics research and initiatives to improve the accuracy of disease diagnosis, increase the safety of drugs, and identify novel treatments.
S.1084 : A bill to provide housing assistance for very low-income veterans.
S.1151 : A bill to provide incentives to the auto industry to accelerate efforts to develop more energy-efficient vehicles to lessen dependence on oil.
And I was able to find this on the first few pages of the U.S. Senate website! Notice his seemingly heavy emphasis on veterans and health care in his bills.
By "Hardworking American"
May 20, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
Obama recently said that other countries don’t approve of U.S. citizens:
-Driving SUVs. -Eating anything we want. -Consuming the energy that we do. -Setting the thermostats in our homes at 72 degrees year round.
To (Escalade-driving) Obama supporters: Do you agree with your candidate that we should seek approval from other countries as to what we eat, what types of vehicles we drive, and what our thermostat reading should be?
Bonus Question: How many states are there in the U.S.? (Hint: 57. Source: BHO.)
By Nonworking American
May 20, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Why not?? You already settled for a former drunk and cokehead.
By Curious Obama
May 20, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
anybody got a banana? hooo hoohoo hoohoo.
By GOP"S got to go
May 20, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
I am white, female, Catholic,and middle aged. I voted for Obama! If you think it is only blacks you are dead wrong. Reagan was a moron, I can remember well thank you. And we have had 8 long years of Texasism “turtle poster” guy. I look forward to a honest man in the white house.
By Nonworking American
May 20, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
Hey Hard..
If you weren’t such a FAT@ss you wouldn’t need to:
Eat anything and everything you wanted, drive a big SUV, or keep your thermostats set to 72!
Do you know we are the FATTEST, most medicated and unhealthiest nation on earth?
BBWWAAAAAAHHH!!
By "Hardworking American"
May 20, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
In the ABC television debate, Obama was asked what the point was in ending the Bush tax cuts if it resulted, as it historically has (JFK, RR, GWB, others), in reduced tax revenues to the federal government.
Obama answered that it was the role of the government to “to make sure … that our tax system is fair…”
Question for Obama supporters: Do you think it is the role of government to punish people who have been productive—even when it wouldn’t benefit the less productive? Expressed differently, does it help you to punish others who have more even when it doesn’t result in your having more?
Bonus Question: Describe how raising capital gains rates from 15% to 28% in a down economy helps the economy to recover? (Hint: You may want to make a mobile shoutout to a community organizer, as these individuals are apparently very adept at answering economic questions.)
By CJ
May 20, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
I am a Hillary Clinton supporter! She has every right to continue in this race. Why? 1. Obama made the decision to remove his name from the ballot in Michigan. There was no penalty for leaving his name on the ballot. He should live with his mistake and the votes should count. 2. The Florida race was the most fair of any in this election because no campaign money was spent and therefore no candidate had more influence on the voters than another. It is not the voters’ fault that the primary was moved, so they should not be penalized. Those votes should count too.
If FL and MI are counted, then Hillary may regain her footing and superdelegates may follow. There is a reason that so many superdelegates are still “undecided” - they don’t trust Obama and they are praying Hillary can pull through. They are watching the numbers and waiting to see if their vote will put her over the top.
Hang in there, Hillary! You’re the only Democratic candidate that speaks in terms of action plans rather than hopes, clouds, and fairies! Obama is bad for our country; any man who sits in Rev. Wright’s church for 20 years is no good for us.
By Kiki
May 20, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
My husband and I were driving the speed limit on 400N the other day, when we got passed by a HUGE motor home towing a Hummer behind it. We both immediately turned to each other and said, “Only in America!” I believe Barack is saying that we should all re-evaluate the way we consume energy in this country, NOT that we need to “ask permission” from other countries regarding energy use. It’s quite entertaining the way the right-wingers keep spinning his words for political gain. Spin will only get you so far.
By BOOMER BABY
May 20, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
Thor - You will be old before you know it pal and I’m sure your parents love hearing you wish death to the Boomer generation.
If this is your message, you can count on your children and your grandchildren anxiously awaiting you and your generation to die off as well - what a guy!!
By "Hardworking American"
May 20, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
Kiki needs to become aware of the differences between a state planned economy and one determined by its citizens.
It may not be your choice to tow a Hummer with an RV, but should it be the government’s decision? THAT is precisely the choice we are discussing.
California Democrats already proposed programmable communicating thermostats (PCTs) whereby the government would determine the temperature of a building.
If you feel you are incapable of deciding the thermostat setting of your home—and are incapable of deciding what vehicle you wish to drive, then by all means vote to turn that decision over to the government.
For the record, Obama said:
“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said. “That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen,” he added.
No spin here, Kiki. Only Obama’s words. Distortion will only get you so far.
By Lauren
May 20, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this
As powerful as the Republican spin machine has been in the past, I don’t think even you guys can spin your way out of the mess Bush has got you in. Your party screwed the pooch. Face it. All your hatred towards Obama, all the racist comments (both veiled and outright) only make you look worse and worse and drive the swing voters away from your hateful a*******es and over to our side. Keep talking and keep digging!
By Need POSITIVE CHANGE Now
May 20, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this
Nazi McBush will surely get ignored some more as he continues to mispronounce al-qaeda and flip-flop about a dozen times in one sentence….and nobody even corrects him….like they are in some kind of stupor…vote for mccain ignoramuses, so we know who you are, just own up to it later, not like bush apologist wimps who deny voting for this moron…..elect bush III…unless you are not a patriot or have a brain!!! smart growth, smart trading policies, actual responsive AND responsible govt. answerable to the people is what a democracy looks like not a theocracy or some orwellian social utopian engineering foreign policy….wake up or shut up or git som lurnin in ya…git r dun…dum &(*$ neocons….
By Obama '08
May 20, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
responding to nazi pinhead neocon apologist…Obama is 100% correct in admonishing stupid neocons who think they can live in mcmansions, drive suvs, waste all resources, and then try to act all high and mighty and admonish other countries such as china and india for trying to develop, what gives you the right to act like you are better than everybody else??? most likely, you are in debt up to your eyeballs and making the rest of us pay for your shortsightedness and greed when you foreclose….get lost and go to iraq….bye now….stay there for 100 years with nazi mcbush. make sure you wear your flag pin….to identify you as American, since bush has made the rest of the world hate us…and then do your preaching of hate over there…I am sure you will find a very receptive audience for your xenophobic ranting….
By Lee
May 20, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
It sure would be easier to tell her to stop, if only she would stop winning! By the way, there is really nothing new coming out about Hilary. Yest every week, the Republicans hit a nerve by exposing the racist and sexist opinions of Obama’s loved ones- his minister, his father, his wife. Wait until the real race begins. Even now his Native American friends are warning him to “Beware of the night of the Long Knives”. Hilary, at least, can slice and dice right back. Obama just whines, and asks not to include his wife, or that we just misunderstand his minister.
By Steve-O
May 20, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
I love how Bush went to Knesset last week and put down “appeasers” for talking to the enemy(which is not what appeasement is anyway) and then he went straight to Saudi Arabia (major funders and supporters of terrorism and home of most of the 9/11 terrorists) and begged them to up oil production and then left promising to help them build a nuclear program!! Ha! He kills me! No sense of irony or history, just like his followers. I guess they are only terrorists if Bush says they are. Since he’s the decider and all. Idiot!
By Malcolm
May 20, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
I know….I know…before you remind me again, MOST politicians are power hungry, self absorbed, opportunists, who feel they are royalty and I want to upchuck when they refer to themselves as ‘public servants’???, most serve themselves and theirs, but the Clintons ‘take the cake’, I am so very elated that their decades long game plan, its documented, will soon meet its demise, oh, she is entitled, she is inevitable, she is the best thing since sliced bread, and with Big Daddy Clinton, the first black president, what a JOKE, witness to the fall of the House of Clinton, I have determined, Lord Willing, to watch her concession speech when its live, even if I have to take a days vacation, I, of course, cannot know for certain, but I feel theirs is a power hungry, political marriage, of sheer convenience, willing to say anything, do anything to get elected, I, for the life of me, could NOT imagine, witnessing her taking the oath of office on January 20th, 2009, what a sadder day it would be for an increasingly sadder Americga, with so many in the DEMOCRAT party of her ilk, I wish her no ill will, just so happy she wont be doing our country any, and by the way, I will be happy to she the Bush era end also, oh, I forgot to mention, there is something that doesnt pass the smell test of….Bush…Clinton…Clinton…Bush…Bush…and then another Clinton, McCain 2008………………
By Lauren
May 20, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this
Lee, I agree the contest is close but Hillary is not winning. Winning Kentucky and West Virginia is not the same thing as winning the nomination. She has lost. Only she and her supporters refuse to accept it. Sad and kind of embarrassing. Oh, well.
By StiffUpperLip
May 20, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Lee, WTF? Obama is the whiner? Really? I have seen Hillary whine and literally CRY several times complaining about how people are mean to her and how men are holding her back. She is the biggest whiner in the bunch. The fact that you look at her and don’t see that says something about your sense of perception.
By Steve-O
May 20, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
Prediction: Obama will have enough delegates by the weekend to secure the nomination. Wonder if Hillary will quit then. Doubt it. Girl just doesn’t know when to give up. Face it lady, you were rejected!
By hillary's thunder is stolen again
May 20, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
**Well, well - hillary’s thunder is stolen again….the news for the remainder of the day and tonight will be the coverage of Senator Ted Kennedy.
Her latest ploy - I didn’t win cause I’m a woman…sexism…no woman - you didn’t win because you ran a horrible campaign - you number one trouble spot…bill!!!
Stop trying to blame the media for your losses - can’t you hear the people saying - go away - we don’t want you OR bill !!! Your supporters too have become sore losers - but one thing for sure, come November, they will have forgotten all about you and WILL VOTE FOR SENATOR OBAMA !!! I’m taking the day off when he is sworn in to celebrate this much appreciated and EARNED accomplishment….Afterall, he ran against hillary, bill and John McCain and did an AWESOME JOB !!!! Yes we can has become YES WE DID !!!!
By Kiki
May 20, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
To “Hardworking American”:
So you are saying that Obama’s comments imply that if he becomes President, the U.S. government is going to limit the amount of energy we can use? That is not what I got from his comments at all. My interpretation was that Americans should willingly take on a more conservative attitude when it comes to energy consumption, not that we should be forced to do so by the government. It doesn’t make much sense for us to use hundreds of times the amount of energy as countries with populations that vastly outnumber our own. Contrary to what some may think, I don’t believe that most Democrats, Obama included, want the government to take over our lives. Energy conservation can only be successful through individual efforts, not government-mandated ones. Of course, increasing MPG requirements is a good start.
By It's funny....
May 20, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
…how these so-call right white Christian can accuse Pres.-elect Obama and Rev. Wright of being racist when in fact history shows how many white preachers advocated segregation & Jim Crow laws. And it’s even more funnier how these same right white Christians would hear these sermons and go home in put on their bedsheets and terrorize black people. The fact of the matter is the white race is in no moral position of accusing anyone of being racist.
“Talk about the pot calling the kettle black”
By Kiki
May 20, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
And for the record, both my husband and I agreed that, while it may not be the responsible choice, if you have the money to blow, then it should be your right to spend it however you so choose. Even if that includes driving 10 miles over the speed limit while towing a Hummer behind your RV.
By Liberalrochi
May 20, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this
Jesus H - this is like the View on steroids
By "Hardworking American"
May 20, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this
I’m glad your husband allowed you to render an opinion on this subject.
As for “that’s not what I got from his [Obama’s] comments at all”—you need to do some reading. Here’s a start: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/us/11control.html
Obama said “We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said. “That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen,” he added.
When Obama said “that’s not going to happen [setting your thermostat at 72, etc.], what did you take that to mean—that we would all voluntarily set our thermostats at a temperature HE believes is acceptable.
You folks hear the words coming out of his mouth but are so enamored by him that it doesn’t really matter. Obama will make Jimmy Carter look like a great president.
…hope, change, change, hope, I belieeeeve Barack. I believe….
By It's not funny, it's dishonest
May 20, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this
…how these so-call right white Christian can accuse Pres.-elect Obama and Rev. Wright of being racist when in fact history shows how many white preachers advocated segregation & Jim Crow laws.
Uh, these [alleged and unnamed] white preachers aren’t running for president. Oh, but you knew that.
“Pres.-elect Obama”. Now THAT’s funny.
By M Ryan
May 20, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
For all you clueless Dems & libs who keep saying you do not want another fours years of GOP rule, do you know anything about this country’s legislative system? It is the congress that runs the country, and guess who has been leading the country for..oh about two years now. In case you forgot let me tell you. It has been the DEMOCRATS!. Tell me, how do you think your party is doing!
By EDI
May 20, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this
Question: IF Hillary “won” the nomination and became the next president of the US, would she leave when her term was over if she does not know when to bow out now?
By AL
May 20, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this
We wouldn’t be having this conversation had the Demo’s known BHO was a Blackk KKK member or that he galivants around with other America haters, before March. The wet behind the ears “youth vote” and the”for anybody that looks like me” and the “tree hugger”vote will not be enough. BHO will fall in line with Dukakis and McGovern and the rest of the socialists who tried and failed. Can you say LANDSLIDE!!
By A real American
May 20, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this
You Racist and Bigots will vote your fears over your own economic condition. History has proven that you are always on the wrong side of morality and justice. Reivew your history lessons. America seems to always overcome adversity and injustice. GOD does not tolerate racist and bigots. We are all in the same boat. A nation divided will fall. Our real enemies know this all too well.
By Lauren
May 20, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this
M.Ryan, correction!! We have controlled the Senate and House for two years but not with enough votes to override president Idiot!! You have to have enough of a majority to do something. Which we will after November you stupid ignoramous!!
By Steve-O
May 20, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this
AL, you really thing McCain will win in a landslide?!? I almost shat myself laughing. Bumpkins are so funny!
By Gop's got to go
May 20, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
So Obama said we need to conserve energy? Oh Lord, he has done it now. To think that American Fatty McFatties might not get to HOG all the energy in the world and then get it at rock bottom prices too. Wake up and smell the Oil burning Stupids. This is one big old planet and America is a small section of it. With Globalization comes, now try to say it with me slowly, S-H-A-R-I-N-G. Yes, I know it is hard for you Christians to comprehend that you do not get everything since you are so Holy and Rightious and Godly as you are having your affairs with your secretaries.
By Mike In Woodstock
May 21, 2008 7:28 AM | Link to this
Wow! The racist AJC finally tries to get on board the Barry Obama bandwagon after pimping the Jeremiah Wright story for 12 weeks straight. What’s the matter? Did the Clinton’s stop making payments?