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DEL.ICIO.USSunday alcohol sales hostage to GOP
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Citizens of the Peach State hoping that the ascendancy of the Republican Party as the majority party in state government would usher in an era of individual liberty consistent with the oft-pronounced GOP philosophy of individual responsibility and less government power, have yet to witness any significant evidence of that since the Republicans took over the governorship and the state House and Senate several years ago. This gulf between talk of less government restriction on personal freedom and the reality of government control, is evident in public comments by the Republican Senate leadership, the lieutenant governor and Governor Sonny Perdue, refusing to even allow formal consideration of referenda on Sunday sales of alcoholic beverages in grocery and convenience stores.
While many Republican legislators speak often and eloquently of individual freedom and responsibility, and of supporting small businesses, when it comes to listening to the majority of citizens - 65 percent according to a recent poll - who favor Sunday alcohol sales, the voice of the people apparently counts for nothing. In fact, the governor has indicated clearly that even were the legislature to pass legislation allowing local jurisdictions to hold referenda allowing Sunday sales, he would veto the bill. Senate leaders reportedly have refused even to hold hearings on the legislation.
So much for responsive, representative government in Georgia. And so much for the possibility of Sunday alcohol sales, at least for the time being.
Comments
By Patrick
February 15, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
wow…i am actually in agreement with Bob Barr.
By Michael
February 15, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Bob Barr needs to repent, go outside and pray for rain.
By Bosch
February 15, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Tell it like it is, Bob! When are you going to run for governor?
By West Cobb Dad
February 15, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Mr. Barr, you really should consider running for g’vner. You are from the ol’ school of the GOP (Reagan, Bush Sr.) that kept the government out of your backyard and practiced fiscal responsibility.
By Thinker
February 15, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
The contradiction defies all boundaries of logic. You cannot buy a bottle of wine to enjoy with dinner on Sunday, but you can go into a strip club on the same day, and get slap-silly drunk while watching completely naked women gyrate in front of you. Sounds like the old joke about the definition of a camel: a horse put together by a committee.
By Amanda
February 15, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Thank you for this. These bills continued to get laughed at and thrown in the garbage, a fact that utterly perplexes me. The irrationality of it is baffling.
By Common Sense
February 15, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Sometimes I forget what a backward state we are in…then I try to pick hit the liquor store on Sunday and the realization hits me. Welcome to the Bible Belt. Enjoy your stay but dont enjoy too much.
By Common Sense
February 15, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Sometimes I forget what a backward state we are in…then I try to hit the liquor store on Sunday and the realization hits me. Welcome to the Bible Belt. Enjoy your stay but dont enjoy too much.
By Jeff
February 15, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
When will the libs and neo-cons realize that true FFFFFRRRRRREEEEEEDDDDOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!! (Imitating a William Wallace cry) means that some will choose that which you abhor - and that is perfectly ok!!
By Eric
February 15, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
Yes, the Republicans are really shooting themselves in the foot on this issue. Religious zealots make up a decent constituency but it pales in comparison to EVERYONE ELSE IN THE STATE WHO WANTS TO VOTE ON SUNDAY ALCOHOL SALES!!!
By 4 Real
February 15, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
While I do want Sunday sales, you can always plan ahead and buy what you need/want Monday through Saturday.
By Will Hinton
February 15, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
Bob: the real sham here is that many of those opposing Sunday alcohol sales who do so for religious reasons are incorrect in their theology. There is nothing in the Bible that suggests alcohol is forbidden. I have also heard the argument that as the Sabbath, Sunday is a special day and therefore we shouldn’t sell alcohol on that day. This argument is completely disingenuous as these opponents of Sunday alcohol sales aren’t being consistent and calling for all stores to be closed on Sunday. At the end of the day, this argument against Sunday alcohol sales is nothing more than an argument for tradition, an argument which has a sad history in the South.
By Rich
February 15, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
This is exactly why majority should not rule. Politicians only say let the people vote if they are in favor of whatever is being voted on. If this were a Gay marriage vote you can bet Sonny would (and did) let the majority decide. This is exactly why we have courts so that the majority does not always over rule the monirity.
By Chad
February 15, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
When I moved to this state I was shocked to find out you can’t purchase beer on Christmas Day! Seems Jesus could enjoy wine but the rest of us are screwed!
By Dan
February 15, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
Absurd, I have lived in Atlanta for 15 years and have never heard any serious talk of changing that rule until the republicans took over. And lets not forget the high gravity beers are now allowed so that excuse is nonsense. Second as far as small business go, the Sunday ban actually helps them. People are in the habit of buying what they want beforehand so opening on Sunday would not raise sales for the small stores and would require them to be open longer for the same amount of sales ie margins go down. Of course it would be a nice plus grocery stores who are open anyway but now we are talking about big business.
I would love to see alcohol sales on Sunday, but to overcome a problem you have to identify it, and it has very little to do with religion and very much to do with political control
By Freedom
February 15, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
Please sign the petition and pass it along to your friends!
http://www.petitiononline.com/GASB138/petition.html
By ByteMan
February 15, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Why is anyone surprised by this? Republicans want their government small enough to fit in your bedroom.
The whole Liberatarian concept of “small government” is completely at odds with the Republican party’s base of Taliban-esque zealots who want to ram their morals down everyone else’s throat. The best outcome is going to be hypocrasy as the politicians talk out of both sides of their mouth.
By LEVI STILL
February 15, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
SONNY P. LISTEN TO ME.PASS THE BILL OR YOUR POSITION THE VOTER’S WILL FILL!!
By Mary Mary
February 15, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
While I lean far to the left - I actually agree with Bob Barr! It’s such a trivial matter - buying beer and wine on Sundays - just do it and get it over with. I’ve been here 15 years from another state and still cannot get used to the religious right controlling the state - horrifying. It’s okay for their preachers to be promiscuous adulterers and to live like celebrities on tax free church money - but it’s not okay to get a six pack on Sundays. Hmmmm….
By linny
February 15, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
To further Will Hinton’s comments a step more…
SOME people consider the Sabbath to be our Saturday rather than our Sunday; in fact it’s Saturday that is the sacred day to the Jewish, as well as to some sects of the Christian faith, among us … so why are sales not restricted on Saturday? The Old “Blue Laws” are just that… OLD! And it’s not even REALLY tradition. It’s more like… inertia… you know, something at rest stays at rest? Thank you Mr. Barr for being honest about the fact that our conservatives are only conservative when it suits them — much like our liberals can be conservative when it serves their needs, LOL!
By Red Forman
February 15, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Bob Barr, even though I think you’re a has-been, hypocritical hack, you’re spot on on this one.
By Michael
February 15, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Georgia’s blue laws remind us that in this state, church and state are not separate and have no hope of separating. Worse than that, our blue laws mean that in Georgia, (state) religion means ONLY what the religious right says it means. The rest of us have no say in the matter.
Organized religion is one of the most perniciously corrosive, disastrously maleficent influences in this country. Saint Theresa said it best: “More tears were shed over answered prayers than over unanswered ones.”
By craig
February 15, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Backward. And all in the name of religon, just like in everything other bad situation around the globe. people face injustice in the name of religon. Wake up people. I guess they don’t want people to stop at the liquor store on their way to church b/c they’ll increase their chances of being bit by the snakes their handling.
By Doug
February 15, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
I can go to a bar and have a drink on Sunday, but I can’t buy the same substance in a grocery store to drink it in the safety and privacy of my own home? What century is this?
If you don’t like alcohol, don’t buy it or consume it. I don’t see why some religious people, including Sonny Perdue, can’t understand separate their own personal choices and beliefs from general market freedom.
By Doug
February 15, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
I can go to a bar and have a drink on Sunday, but I can’t buy the same substance in a grocery store to drink it in the safety and privacy of my own home? What century is this?
If you don’t like alcohol, don’t buy it or consume it. I don’t see why some religious people, including Sonny Perdue, can’t understand separate their own personal choices and beliefs from general market freedom.
By spike
February 15, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
It is insulting to me that the executive and legislative branches of government in this state think that we the people are incapable of deciding this issue for ourselves. Put it to a ballot-pass or fail it will give the people of this state the opportunity to decide this issue for themselves. I have 2 parents already and don’t need anymore, thank you very much!
By tony
February 15, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
u can smoke, go to a strip club, drink wine at a restuarant or falcons game but u cant drink it at a club??? I love Ga but we are an azz backwards state
By Arthur Guinness
February 15, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
This law makes absolutely no sense and what is more perplexing, is that a minority of people (i.e., Ga legislators) are holding political will hostage in the name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
I’m sure we all thank you for trying to protect us from ourselves, but as there are absolutely no “greater good” arguments to be had here, let the citizens vote.
By josh
February 15, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
When will legislators have the courage to vote on an alcohol issue? Do they really believe the Christian coalition will vote them out of office?
For those who talk about family values and respecting the Sabbeth—are they at home with their families or in Atlanta enjoying a few cold ones with their fellow do-gooders?
By Mark
February 15, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
So, morons who believe in an entity that doesn’t exist are stepping into my life, and telling me that I can’t buy alcohol on Sunday? Where in your “buybull” is that addressed??
By Gman
February 15, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
We REALLY need Sunday sales of alcohol, this is pure foolishness that we don’t have it already……it would certainly save me some money. Every Sunday when I have no beer left and want some I hand over 20$ for a 12-pak to the bootleg beer supplier in my ‘hood……at those prices, with my drinking habits, I will be broke in no time…..C’mon Sonny!!! LET ME DRINK BEER AT HOME on SUNDAYS AND WATCH NASCAR LIKE A PROPER REDNECK!!!!
By Mike
February 15, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
I can’t believe I agree with Bob Barr on anything. I used to be a Republican. But I find that most vote solely for those who are against abortion, gay issues or other social issues. And all the while growing government and intruding into individual’s lives and rights, things supposedly non-Republican. This issue is a prime example.
By Gman
February 15, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
We REALLY need Sunday sales of alcohol, this is pure foolishness that we don’t have it already……it would certainly save me some money. Every Sunday when I have no beer left and want some I hand over 20$ for a 12-pak to the bootleg beer supplier in my ‘hood……at those prices, with my drinking habits, I will be broke in no time…..C’mon Sonny!!! LET ME DRINK BEER AT HOME on SUNDAYS AND WATCH NASCAR LIKE A PROPER REDNECK!!!!
By Matt
February 15, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
Whatever happened to seperation of church and state?
By TIme Out
February 15, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Who let us vote on gay marriage, but not Sunday Sales? Sonny Did
By charles corley
February 15, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
goooooood morning/ the front row, closet drinking baptist are at it again. moses did his best writting when he was drinking grape squessings. in fact he was drinking when he came up with the adultry idea and in the beginning. what a way to start a novel. you can tell by buba’s nose that he is a closet drinker and casey could use a drink. i bet glenn r would take a drink. i had a uncle that was baptized 37 times. can you imagine how much adultry he committed. he never missed a sunday. come on down you sinners.
By art
February 15, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
That’s why Libertarianism is the only way for TRUE conservatives to vote. Retardicans and Democraps are two edges of the same bad coin. Anyone who supports either party is an idiot, intrinsically flawed in their belief system. The “religious right” is damned to the bowels of Hell for all eternity, they just don’t realize it.
By bobby
February 15, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
They take religion out of everything else but can’t take it out of Sunday Alcohol sales. Get drunk at a bar or restaurant and kill someone trying to go home vs. purchasing your tonic at a store, get drunk and fall asleep on the sofa.
By Smarty Jones
February 15, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
What kills me is that some of the politicians bring up the ‘Sabbath’.
Well our country’s whole foundation was based on the seperation of ‘Church & State’ well that doesn’t mean anything in Georgia.
Also, Georgia is still the most backward state still in the south. A LOT of other southern states are a lot more progressive in laws, etc.
It is sad. Plus the money that they can make is $5 million or more per year on just Sunday that they can blow on something.
As for Liqour Stores saying that they would have to open to compete with a grocery store. PLEASE! It’s up to you if you want to work it is not required PLUS we all know it is not going to be that much business lost in the first place.
Still backwards GA.
BTW Bob your are from Southern California I know you get a kick out of this…
By Rev Doctor
February 15, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
I totally agree with Bob. As an ordained minister and biblical scholar (Ph.D.), there is not even any religious reason to have this law. The hypocrisy of those who think that this law should remain is unbelieveable.
By Bob in Acworth
February 15, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
This policy is right in keeping with the GA Republican party’s policy of pandering to the Religious right. Who can forget that the “Leaders” in Cobb Co. were willing to waste Millions of tax dollars to try to expunge evolution from high school text books. So much for enlightenment and the separation of Church and State. When I get solicited for contributions to GA Republican Party I tell the solicitor that I’m embarrassed to admit I’m a Republican in this state. The last good congressman I had was Bob Barr!!
By Keenan
February 15, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
Where’s the separation of Church and State? I agree with most of you guys especially Mary Mary and Thinker. I know the real responsibility here is that the state expects all of us would be mature adults and go to church on Sunday and buy your liquors during the week. Sorry but its not always that simple. Seems to me like there is serious contradiction in play here. We can go out to a restaurant or bar on Sunday and drink til we can’t see straight, then get on the road and try and get home without getting stopped by Police, wrecking the car, and or killing someone…(yeah I know, I know…get a designated driver or take a cab.) When it seems that the simple thing to do is allow sales on Sunday. Everyone stays home enjoys there beverage of choice and the state makes their tax revenue, less potential drunk drivers on the road. Since when do I need someone else to tell me whats best for me. The “Boss” under the gold dome says he will veto without giving us a choice, soley based on his on beliefs. Sounds to me like what your dad used to say when you were growing up doesn’t it? “Cause I said so.” If you are not being representative of the people and not listening to the people then you are doing the people a disservice. Let the vote speak for the people.
By Buzz
February 15, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Let’s recap - the biggest issues coming out of our Legislature so far are the resolution mandating a NCAA football playoff, the House Speaker’s secret divorce, we can water our lawns with a hose in the middle of the night, and another non-attempt to get Sunday alcohol sales.
By Matt
February 15, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
I’ve never understood why it’s legal to go out to a bar and drink on a Sunday but you can’t go to the store, buy a bottle and take it to the safety of your own home. What about separation of church and state? For some faiths, the sabbath is on Saturday. This law doesn’t exist in most states does it?
By DD
February 15, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Out of all the issues that Georgia has to deal with Mr. Barr wants to write a article about who’s holding back alcohol sales on Sunday. That’s the best you can do Mr. Barr? If the top priority is alcohol sales on Sunday then this great state is no longer a great state.
Mr. Barr, if you so concerned about buying alcohol on Sunday make a run for any of our bordering states if your than concerned about it OR just buy it on Saturday like most folks.
Now, let’s go deal with some real issues!
By Jerry Schull
February 15, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
Bob is right-on. Sonny is not the servant of the people he should be. As with some politicians, special interest groups matter more than the people. Remember his arrogance and defiance to the will of the people the next time he comes up with a Sonny-Do list right before elections.
By Scott
February 15, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
Talk to a few people who have worked in liquor stores and decide if at least one day off isn’t a bad idea. Probably most of you are in the Grey Goose crowd, but the overwhelming liquor store constituency are alcoholics whose bodies are wracked with addiction. They will walk in and literally p** themselves in front of everyone. Alcohol is a huge underpinning in domestic violence, DUI, accidental gun death, and etc. Having a Sunday with no liquor sales is not enough to stem this, but it certainly is helpful. Maybe it gives some families one day of peace where Dad doesn’t go off the handle or a family gets hit head-on by a drunk driver. I think that supporting this law is supporting families, and therefore worthwhile, if only symbolically.
By Steve Foster
February 15, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
These bible-thumpers who are so dedicated to their sacred Sunday, don’t even have the correct day; according to their own book.
By Seperation Of Church and State
February 15, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
For all of you who want the seperation of Church and state so do I. I do not want to help the poor, or give insurance to the uninsured or pay taxes for freaking illegals having babies like rabbits. Where does this need to give to the needy come from? And then I hear the same people getting the welfare checks and getting medical help, they want seperation of church and state. WHAT A JOKE!!!!!
By Atlantan
February 15, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
The legislators can have affairs, divorce and lie - all are called sin in The Bible.
But, for some reason we can’t buy wine on Sundays. That is odd because wine is the last thing that Jesus drank before he died on the cross.
Nothing worse than politcal pandering. No Casinos in Georgia, but we can have the poor peoples tax - also known as the GA Lottery.
And many Americans want Govt to run their healthcare - go figure.
By jdog
February 15, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
You may want to correct the misspelled word “relgious” on the link to this blog on the AJC.com home page.
By Jerry
February 15, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
If the liquor store’s want a day off, that’s fine. They can close their doors anytime they want. Just don’t stop my wife from getting a bottle of wine for Sunday dinner. Just plumb dumb>
By Sonny
February 15, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
Maybe we can get a referendum on this from “Sonny Lied” Purdue. But, of course, it will be “NON-BINDING”.
By md
February 15, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
I can tell that a lot of transplants are posting on this topic. I’ve lived here all of my 40 years. I believe in and love a good cold beer. I believe in and love Jesus too. I attend church regularly. It wasn’t that long ago that the same folks that are working so hard to keep alcohol from being sold on the Sabbath were working hard to keep the Lottery out of this state too. I’d love to know the true economic impact that Sunday sales would have. I’ve always said to follow the money trail - if there is a good solid dime to be made on it you can bet it’d pass - no matter who controls the house/senate.
now, i’m off to pick up a 6pack, some scratchoffs and 5 quick picks for the 180 million i’m going to win tonight.
I’ll make a deal with all you posters - when I win the Megamillions tonight - i’m buyin everyone on here a PBR…
By Rick
February 15, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
One of the few times I have agreed with Bob Barr.
We have a bunch of loser politicans that aim to defeat the “will of the people”…without any good reason!
David Shafer (R-Duluth) should be voted out of office over this issue. He does not represent his constituents, just his CONGREGATION!
By Dan
February 15, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
I don’t drink, yet I completely agree with Mr. Barr. There is absolutely zero reason to disallow alcohol sales on Sundays. It’s very scary how so many elected officials want to legislate their own morality.
A similar example (among many) can be found at the federal level, with the attacks on online gambling. Adults should be allowed to do what they want with their own money in the privacy of their own homes. The Republican rhetoric of “individual responsibility” has morphed into “individual responsibility as long as we say it’s ok.” Those who both inserted and voted for anti-online gaming legislation into the SAFE Port Act of 2006 in the middle of the night should be ashamed.
But I digress. It’s just sad that honest, hard working adults can’t spend their money how they wish, as long as it doesn’t hurt anybody.
By Kate
February 15, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
I lived in Boston for six years, during which time Sunday sales were finally approved. (You might be surprised at how Puritan the blue laws still are in Massachusetts - you can’t buy beer or wine in any but a handful of specially-licensed groceries, and not at convenience stores at all.)
There was a lot of hot air about the Sabbath and alcoholics and planning ahead and won’t someone please give the poor store owners a day off. Three or four months after Sunday sales were legalized, all that had pretty much been forgotten and it was business as usual.
By charlie s
February 15, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
Lowest test scores in the nation. Highest percentage of religios zealots destined to become American terrorists (or are they already?). In Georgia, like much of America, ignorance truly is BLISS!
By Mark
February 15, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
md I’m holdin you to that offer!
By Mark
February 15, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
Ever notice that when the baptists come to town for their “convention”, that you can’t find a parking space at any of the area’s strip clubs? And I thought Catholics were hypocritical!
To the religious right: Keep your magical man in the sky out of my face!!!
By jabster
February 15, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this
Scott wrote:
Talk to a few people who have worked in liquor stores and decide if at least one day off isn’t a bad idea.
If someone wants to run a liquor store like Truett Cathy runs Chick-Fil-A that’s their business, not mine.
Alcohol is a huge underpinning in domestic violence, DUI, accidental gun death, and etc.
Automobiles are a huge underpinning in family violence, DUI, and accidental death. Do we need to ban car sales on Sunday too? Is it too much to hold people responsible for their actions and not “blame the equipment”?
Having a Sunday with no liquor sales is not enough to stem this, but it certainly is helpful.
How so? If someone’s enough of a juicer to need a fix lest they get the DTs, they’ll drive to a bar or buy the day before, or they’re chugging Scope.
Maybe it gives some families one day of peace where Dad doesn’t go off the handle or a family gets hit head-on by a drunk driver.
So, are we to expect all the alkies to put up with the DTs and shakes just because its Sunday? Like I said, they’ll plan ahead, drive to a bar, or hit the Listerine. And if they hit a bar, they’ll be lit up like a Christmas tree for the drive home.
I think that supporting this law is supporting families, and therefore worthwhile, if only symbolically.
So, you think it’s proper for the police to enforce a law with deadly force (if it comes down to it—that’s what a LAW comes down to, by definition) for symbolic reasons?
S### happens. We live in a fallen world. It’s not the government’s job to babyproof it.
Hold people (not inanimate objects) accountable, but for goodness sakes treat them like adults. The Lord treats us that way. Government should too.
By MrLiberty
February 15, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
Mr. Barr,
I will amend my comments from yesterday. Georgia among many southern militaristic, bloodthirsty, fascist theocracy states needs to be led to freedom by the REVOLUTION. You in the position of Governor would be a excellent place to help lead the charge. A champion of freedom is exactly what this state needs. Maybe the other republicans in the state that have the audacity to call themselves conservatives would learn a little from you as Gov.
Once you crack the Diebold code you’ll win for sure.
By Coleman Dasher, II
February 15, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
I believe that people ought have the right to legally set their own “community standards” including whether they want sales of alcohol or other regulated commodities on Sunday. It may seem silly to some but this standard setting is effectively legislated in the secular world with workplace policies on dress codes, drinking at lunch, smoke free environments, etc. So long as their are no constitutional problems, let it be.
Having said that, I think many cult-type sects like the Church of Christ [remember the woman who shot-gunned her preacher-husband in TN?] or Church of God are comprised of poorly educated members with little understanding of their own theology. Drinking is not verboten but many “members” would throw a hissy fit if you said that in church. It is said commentary but in some Christian cults/sects religion has become little more than a social club for the ignorant.
I think I’ll have another drink on that note.
By gttim
February 15, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
I love to see the GOP’s hypocrisy on issues like this. They claim it is the Democratic Party who want a nanny state, but they are the ones who want to regulate alcohol sales, porn, medical marijuana, Canadian prescription drugs, clothing, literature, music, television and movies. As a tree-hugging Democrat, I just want to make sure you do not ruin the planet or shove your religion down my throat- good excuses for regulations.
As a non-drinking heathen, I could care less whether or not alcohol is sold on Sundays, but I really hate to see the religious right impose their beliefs on everybody else. Even though I am not going to buy it, I see no reason why others can’t.
I dislike many, many things about Bob Barr, but I do agree with him on issues like this.
By DJ
February 15, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
Even worse than our government protecting us from ourselves is protecting certain classes of business from competition.
For example, if you happen to own a winery like Chateau Elan, you may freely sell bottles of wine on Sunday’s.
So much for the consistent application of free market principles by our government. All hail the Peoples’ Republic of Georgia and our politiburo’s insight into what’s best for us comrades.
By give me a break
February 15, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Why did we elect republicans if they won’t be in favor of limited government and local control?
Blue laws in 2008? Give me a break!
By church of christ chick
February 15, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
Coleman Dasher, II the Church of Christ, and other denominations as well, may be cult-ish as many are not governed by a central organizing body - hence the inconsistent practices. This might lead some to call them cults, heck, maybe we are, but we have the right to our own thoughts on religion, don’t we?
I may be ignorant, brother, but I’m a proud “member” as you say. Now go have another drink, and read a book by c.s. lewis if you want to know what we stand for, oh, and the bible next.
By JJ
February 15, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this
As long as Perdue is our governor, we will not be allowed to vote on Sunday Sales.
He hears the people, but he is not listening to us, turning a deaf ear, due to his religious beliefs. He doesn’t drink, and has made it very clear that he will never allow a vote.
When did we start working for the government? I thought they were supposed to work for us…….
By Tim
February 15, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
I’d like to see us ban church-going on Sundays. If it makes sense to say I can “always buy my booze ahead of Sunday”, then it’s no different for me to tell people they can always go to Church ahead of Sunday. Ban Sunday Church now !
By Charlie
February 15, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
A social club for the ignorant? The way I understand the Constitution everyone has the freedom to express their ideas. Just because someone disagrees with you it does not make them ignorant. Christians are being called hypocrites but look at the posts and see who is doing the name calling. It is the so-called enlightened and educated ones.
By ruthie
February 15, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
i need to get right with God. i agree with bob barr, so the end times MUST be close!
By Sonny's Compromise
February 15, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Why not a compromise? Why not have Sunday alcohol sales begin at 2pm? That way Sonny saves face and voters actually chose their own destiny.
By Profiler
February 15, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
Most of you fit the following profile:
1) Are from the north, probably New Jersey 2) If not from the north, from well outside the perimeter, or in attached housing inside the perimeter. 3) If male, have at one point (maybe even now) worn gold chains and/or earring(s).
4) If female, have a tatoo and/or smoke 5) Think that Buckhead has been the cool place to go for the last 20 years 6) Beat your significant other 7) Almost certainly had a DUI, at least one 8) Think your wife is only going to the liquor store on Sundays for wine. You have no idea, do you.
By Darrel
February 15, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
I would like for one person to show me or tell which verse in the Bible says “Thou shalt not drink alcoholic beverages”! It’s NOT in there! There is an admonition not to do anything in excess but no where can I remember where it says you can’t have a drink of an alcoholic beverage! Oh, and I am a conservative with some liberal leanings: GOVERNMENT GET OUT OF MY LIFE!
By John
February 15, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
Here’s what needs to happen. The liquor and convenience store lobby needs to open a liquor store and actually sell alcohol on sunday. The owner, who should be greatly compensated, will be arrested, and probably found guilty of a misdemeanor. At this point the issue should be appealed and hopefully make it’s way to the Georgia Supreme court and maybe the US Supreme Court. I can’t think of any argument that any lawyer could make that would defend this law. There is just no way, any court can uphold this law..it’s based on nothing. Yes, it’s legislating from the bench but in this case it seems necessary.
By JJ
February 15, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
Profiler Ha ha, I don’t fit into any of your categories.
I have lived here for 30 years (came from the West, not North); no tats; don’t smoke; hate buckhead; don’t have a significant other; and no DIU’s or run-ins with the law…….
You might want to find another day job. Profiling is not your strong suit.
By jabster
February 15, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
So, Profiler, if I understand what you’re saying, if you want Sunday sales you must be 1) a damyankee, 2) a redneck, 3) black, 4) white trash, 5) a barhopper, or 6) a drunk driver.
(Side note: I just love it when the teetotalers like to claim that anyone who takes a drink is a drunk driver and/or an alkie, or one in training.)
Even though I don’t fit in any of those categories, something tells me I wouldn’t be welcome in your church anyway. How’s your outreach going this week?
As Christian Contemporary singer Steve Taylor said, “What translation DO YOU READ?!?!”
By Profiler is dumb
February 15, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
Hey Profiler,
I’m 1) From Georiga 2) I live inside the 285 3) I’m male but not one piercing or piece of jewelry. 4) My wife, who agrees this law is dumb, has no tatto and doesn’t smoke 5) Lived in Atlanta for 30 years and havn not been out to Buckhead in 15 years 6) Do not beat my significant other 7) Don’t drink and drive 8) I have no clue what this point means…
I make six figures, live well below my means, invest prudently and occasionally have friends over for dinner on Sundays unexpectedly. It would be nice if a I could go a half mile to the store and get a bottle of Cabernet to go with our steaks instead of having a coke.
You know what they say about making a*******umptions and making an a$$ of yourself dont’ you?
By cathy lee
February 15, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
please pass the bill the bootleggars are getting rich !!!
By give me a break
February 15, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this
Keep this going! Copy this on every comment to show we are serious! Over 1800 signatures so far
Please sign the petition and pass it along to your friends!
http://www.petitiononline.com/GASB138/petition.html
By Matt
February 15, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
It’s such a hypocritical law, which has no place in our society given everything else that is available to us each Sunday. Then again, in what area is government not hypocritical? It’s everywhere. …especially when it comes to religious-related topics
By Harry
February 15, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
Amen, Bob Barr … you just hit the nail on the head. When are the voters in this state going to wake up?
By Apu
February 15, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this
no..no..no!
Oh praise by the god Vishnu…no!
The law must stay the way it is. You should not buy alcohol on Sunday…uh, unless you live near the Alabama border…on I-20.
And by the way…for the next four weekends we will be having a special at the Fasty Market..on 12 packs of Bud Light, and Miller Lite…look for the signs on interstate 20 right inside the Alabama border..The Fasty Market…
thank you and come again!
By JRG1705
February 15, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
YOU CAN BUY LIQUOR IN A BAR AND THEN DRIVE HOME. WHY CAN’T YOU BUY LIQUOR IN A STORE AND DRINK IT AT HOME?? MIGHT BE A LITTLE SAFER,NO?
By Mara
February 15, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
I seldom know from one day to the next what I’m going to have for dinner and Sunday is no exception. If decide to make pot roast for dinner, why shouldn’t I be able to run down to the store and pick up a bottle?
In addition, I know quite a few people who do their weekly shopping on Sunday, the one day a week where they have no obligation to be anywhere in particular. Why should they have to go back to the store on Monday just to pick up a couple bottles of wine, or a six-pack of beer?
The whole issue is rediculous
By Mandy
February 15, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
JRG1705 True it is safer, but then no income is generated for the state. If you get a DUI, you have to pay a fine, hire a lawyer, and pay all sorts of bogus fees to get your life back……That’s why we can’t have a voice in Sunday Sales. It would take income away from the state. Think about it.
Also, why is alcohol even legal and weed isn’t? Weed is way less damaging to your body, and others around you…….ever heard of someone robbing a store to get money to go buy more weed? Ever here of a carjacker taking a car to get weed?
By Leah
February 15, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Republicans…
Can I purchase a semi-automatic weapon on Sunday from an authorized dealer???
By Mohammed
February 15, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Yes….YES….blame the Christians….
By Profiler
February 15, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
JJ,
Glad you are free and clear. How’d a good southern boy like you get caught up in a crowd like this? Lie down with dogs and get fleas… you’ll need a good ointment to clear up the rash these yankees will give you.
Stay safe,
P
By John D
February 15, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
Strip clubs are open on Sunday?
By freedom
February 15, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
**By Freedom Please sign the petition and pass it along to your friends!
http://www.petitiononline.com/GASB138/petition.html
Please sign the petition and pass it along to your friends!
http://www.petitiononline.com/GASB138/petition.html
By FredMertz
February 15, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
Just do what I do. Go to Kroger and drink the beer IN the aisle. Yeah, you get a few rude looks but after a while you really don’t care too much.
By cathy lee
February 15, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
please pass the bill the bootleggars are getting rich !!!
By cathy lee
February 15, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
please pass the bill the bootleggars are getting rich !!!
By cathy lee
February 15, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
please pass the bill the bootleggars are getting rich !!!
By freedom
February 15, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
**All of us who are upset, need to do more than blog. We need our legislators to hear us!
Sign the petition and keep it going. Pass it along to your friends!
http://www.petitiononline.com/GASB138/petition.html
I am a church-going, casual wine drinker who resents being told when and where I can buy a legal product.**
By amazing
February 15, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
Funny how the majority of the venters on here lean left, which means they are either not working and have time to vent, or they are wastng their employers money and time. Before you spout off, I work at home. Like I alway say, vote Democrat, it is easier than working. A vote for a democrat is the extent of someone’s work for a day!!!!!
By Matt
February 15, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Mr. Barr, being a Libertarian who preaches the values of individual liberty and responsibility, what is you position on the legalization of marijuana?
By ChurchLady
February 15, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
The heathens on this board are atrocious! What would your mother’s say? Alcohol is the Devil’s brew and poison to your souls!! Heaven forbid the great State of Georgia should EVER start selling liquid drugs on Sunday, the Lord’s day! Sonny has it right. God Bless him every day! Mr. Barr, your Mama would box your ears if she read the drivel you chose to write in our papers about alcohol. You should be ashamed!
By catlady
February 15, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
will hinton at 10:49—not only that, but Sunday is NOT the Sabbath! It never ceases to amaze me that good Baptists, Methodists, and others are willing to “keep” Sabbath on the day the POPE decided, instead of the day the LORD decided.
By Watta Load
February 15, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
I’m with FredMertz.
Amazing,
This has nothing to do with dems vs repubs..
No matter how you look at it, you are just as much a loser as the rest of us cause if you are on this blog…you ain’t workin’…no matter where you are.
so get off your high horse and wallow in the mud joyiously with the rest of us.
By Copyleft
February 15, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
quote: “Like I alway say, vote Democrat, it is easier than working.”
And like I always say… Vote Republican—it’s easier than thinking!
By lovelyliz
February 15, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
So much for conservative or is it neo-conservative values?
By Matt
February 15, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
ChurchLady; didn’t you used to be on a SNL skit? You haven’t changed a bit.
By lovelyliz
February 15, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Besides, Catholics, who are Christians too, and even some Methodists are allowed to consume alcohol, even on Sunday.
They can buy it too.
By Denise
February 15, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
I live the alcohol debates. Reminds me of when my 10 year old cousin was murdered by a drunk and his car…in front of her entire family. Drink on drunkards…drink on.
By lovelyliz
February 15, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
I support everyone’s right not to to be forced to buy or consume alcohol on Sunday or any other day for that matter.
I also support the right of those who wish to purchase/consume alochol on any day of the week to do so.
By copdawg
February 15, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
let me weigh in, raised in ga, now living in knoxville. i am a christian, love jesus with all my heart. what does that have to do with buying beer and wine on sunday. get off the religious kick. folks, it was wine used in the sacraments, not grape juice. i always love it when obese preachers tell me it is wrong to drink alcohol aaaahhh, gluttony!!!!!!. lets eqch man work out his own salvation with fear and trembling. we are not under the law!! sell all sunday, if you do not personally believe in it do niot buy it but please quit being so judgemental,little wonder a lot of people claim to be atheiests trying to get away from the religious zealots
By copdawg
February 15, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
let me weigh in, raised in ga, now living in knoxville. i am a christian, love jesus with all my heart. what does that have to do with buying beer and wine on sunday. get off the religious kick. folks, it was wine used in the sacraments, not grape juice. i always love it when obese preachers tell me it is wrong to drink alcohol aaaahhh, gluttony!!!!!!. lets eqch man work out his own salvation with fear and trembling. we are not under the law!! sell all sunday, if you do not personally believe in it do niot buy it but please quit being so judgemental,little wonder a lot of people claim to be atheiests trying to get away from the religious zealots
By cranky old man
February 15, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
Hmm. I wonder if the National Guard can use this as a recruiting tool? I make it a point to buy liquor on Sundays as often as possible on Ft. Gordon. Since it’s federal property, the local superstitions don’t apply. Plus there is no sales tax. I’m thinking that 12 months I spent in Iraq a couple of years ago(and the time I’ll probably spend in Afghanistan next year) were worth it after all.
By Ugh
February 15, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
Denise, Sorry for your loss, but this argument is just as ridiculous as the gun argument. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. The NIU shooting yesterday was a classic example. That school prohibited guns on campus, and it’s obvious the gun toter knew that and took his wrath out on innocent people. Cars don’t kill people, drunk drivers do. Prosecute them, but don’t persecute responsible people who DESERVE the right to choose when to buy alcohol. Your drunkards comment reflects how you label people. Sad, very sad.
By freedom
February 15, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this
**Matt-
Imagine those GA legislators dressed up like the SNL churchlady!
Buying a bottle of wine from Kroger or Publix on Sunday??? What…Satan??**
By Jeff
February 18, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
OK, first off, I LOVED this comment:
We live in a fallen world, and it aint the government’s job to babyproof it. Quite possibly one of the best politico-religious statements I’ve EVER heard.
On to substance:
Profiler: JJ can correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure SHE doesn’t exactly have the same reproductive organs I do.
On the actual topic:
“You want true freedom? Let’s see you acknowledge a person who is standing center stage advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.” -The American President. Quite possibly one the single greatest political quotes of all time, particularly from a movie. BOTH sides need to learn that lesson….
By Dave
February 18, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
Yes there are some who believe in the nanny state where just like children they need to control the masses who are incapable of making their own decisions. Please Sonny Perdue save us from sin or getting drunk on Sunday and being too hung over to go to work on Monday. We can’t control ourselves and it is only thru the guidance of you and our state legislature that we can stay on course and not just become a homeless addict. Thank you for your concern. It was pretty funny though that one of the Republican legislators who chaired the committee that regulates alcohol tried to get out of that DUI by claiming executive privilege so he could not be arrested because the state legislature was in session. It is good to be king or a lord of the realm. Membership has it’s privileges or some think it should anyway. I am glad you guys are looking out for the folks and know what is in our best interests.