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Picking Ryan ‘highly debatable’
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Flowery Branch — Matt Ryan? Not a brutal pick for the Falcons at No. 3 overall in the NFL draft on Saturday, but it was far from brilliant. Mediocre comes to mind, and so does this thought: If Michael Vick wasn’t officially gone before as the face of the Falcons, he is now.
That is, unless Vick leaves his flag-football team in prison as an offensive tackle, defensive tackle or cornerback, among the slew of positions his former team still needs to solidify to become relevant again.
Whether the Falcons still need to fill Vick’s old position of quarterback after selecting Ryan is debatable.
Highly debatable.
These two things aren’t debatable: First, with Ryan’s selection, Falcons officials dramatically sacked the public whispers about whether No. 7 and his exciting but controversial ways ever will return to the franchise again. Second, if you go by logic when it comes to trying to change the momentum of a reeling franchise, the Falcons just blew it, especially with the extraordinary Glenn Dorsey sitting there on the draft board as the defensive tackle that they really need. That’s because they don’t have any defensive tackles worth mentioning. Not only that, franchises such as the Falcons with offensively and defensively impaired lines should start by building those lines.
Instead, the Falcons drafted a quarterback, and remember: They don’t have enough decent folks to block for the guy anyway, even if he does play any time soon. It also isn’t comforting to know that the Falcons tried to help Ryan’s plight by trading for another first-round pick at No. 21 to reach for Sam Baker, an offensive lineman with short arms and owner of a damaged hamstring last season at USC.
Ryan has normal arms, and he lacks health issues, but he does have history issues to overcome. Quarterbacks taken in the first round often evolve into Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, David Carr or Alex Smith instead of somebody good. And, yes, Ryan has a nice resume. He completed 59 percent of his 654 passes last season at Boston College for 4,507 yards and 31 touchdowns. He also won the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award and was the ACC Player of the Year.
It’s just that Leaf was Ryan after leading Washington State to the Rose Bowl for the first time in 67 years while throwing a Pac 10-record 33 touchdowns. Couch was Ryan after leaving Kentucky with NCAA records for completions in a season and career completion percentage (67). Carr was Ryan after winning the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award while making Fresno State significant in football for the first time ever as a Sports Illustrated cover boy. Alex Smith was Ryan after helping Urban Meyer jump to the Mighty Gators after Ryan became the mighty engine for Urban Meyer’s spread offense at Utah.
Let’s just say Leaf, Couch, Carr and Smith aren’t in Starr, Montana, Favre or Manning territory. “Yeah, I’ve understood that along the way, as far as the percentages,” said general manager Thomas Dimitroff, running his first draft for the Falcons, or any NFL team, for that matter. “However, I think with Matt, it’s a combination of the intelligence that he has. The leadership ability that he has. I can’t stress it enough. He not only has the ability to take the offense but the whole team [to success]. To me, that’s huge. “I’ve been around a situation in New England where we had a quarterback with that same ability.”
Speaking of New England and that quarterback, Dimitroff spent six seasons working in the Patriots’ scouting department, and this is the same Patriots franchise that won three of its four Super Bowls with Tom Brady leading the way.
Brady was a sixth-round pick.
With all of those picks for the Falcons (11 overall, including four among the top 48 to start the day), they could have selected Dorsey at No. 3 and taken a chance later in the draft on John David Booty, Chad Henne or Andre’ Woodson becoming their Tom Brady. After all, those quarterbacks aren’t that much more of an NFL gamble than the one they got.
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By Me
April 26, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this
It was an outstanding pick you racist pig who just wants Vick to come back.
By Gwalk
April 26, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this
TM you SUCK!
By jawjadude
April 26, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this
never thought I would say this…but AMEN Terence :)
By Me
April 26, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this
Matt Ryan is a born leader. Comparing him to Ryan Leaf is the equivalent of you saying “Fire me, please. I am a horrible sports analyst.”
Go work for the New York Times, please. Get out of this town now.
By Skippy
April 26, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this
Typical Terrence
By DC
April 26, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this
First of all, Glenn Dorsey is the prototypical bust type of player, the guy is playing in defensive tackle in the NFL and is barely 6 feet tall, no size at all on this guy, secondly, isn’t it clear that Dimitroff is trying to start off fresh? Nice clean-cut American boy who is a natural LEADER, something that is lacking on this team. The picking of Ryan, Baker, and Lofton shows direction, and building from the ground up, these aren’t accessories, they are building blocks.
By Sam Maister
April 26, 2008 7:37 PM | Link to this
i like it Terrence, you dont know what you are talking about
By Dr. Warren
April 26, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this
Why trade two second round picks for Sam Baker when no one—NO ONE—had him on their mock board for the 1st Round? Gil Brandt ranked the guy in the 6th tier.
By TheJama
April 26, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this
A little bit of a shocker for sure. I guess Dimitroff/Smith felt they wanted to finally put the MV7 thing to rest. Lord knows I am sick and tired of hearing about it. For all of our sakes I hope that you are terribly wrong with your initial assessment Terrence.
Kind of a strange draft with 8 OT’s and no WR’s taken in the first round. Really like the Lofton pick I just wish we didn’t give up our other two 2nd rounders.
By savannah dawg
April 26, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this
Does this have anything to do with skin color?
By Jeff Levy
April 26, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this
Dorsey is a force, he would have totally pumped up that defense IMMEDIATELY. Ryan doesn’t have a good supporting supporting cast. I feel bad for the guy, he is doomed for failure. This is so depressing. Hopefully he will prove me wrong. I wish I had Dr. Kevorkian’s cell phone number now….
By Fahim
April 26, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this
crap draft. so far I am not impressed. In fact, I’m p**. Baker was going to last awhile with his injury history. This will be another disaster draft and Ryan will be a bust in the NFL.
By Dr. Warren
April 26, 2008 7:41 PM | Link to this
Why has no one drafted DeSean Jackson? Falcons should grab him.
By SOS
April 26, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this
Same Old “Stupidity”. Passing on Dorsey? Dimitroff, you really don’t know what you’re doing and it showed. What happened to the “Builing from the inside out/up the middle”? Don’t worry about me rushing to the box office for tickets. Spare me the “intellegence” speaches about Ryan. I’m disgusted !
By PotNeck
April 26, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this
I agree Terence, 95%. The 5% being that I think that Dorsey will be a bust as well. If Ryan is talked about in the same circles as Manning… Then Henne is the next Brady. We needed to get the second best L.OT. Then… later, pick up Henne. I think that Henne and Flacco will be the long-term winners in the league. I would much rather put my faith in DJ @ this point. I will remain ever optimistic in April as I always do. GO FALCONS!!!
By jacketbacker
April 26, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this
This is the right pick. Maybe some of us can be proud to be a Falcon fan again. I’ve had it with the ghetto crowd. It is so refreshing to see a nice, clean cut kid become the face of this franchise. I saw this kid in person this year when he came to the Flats. He’s good. REAL good! I may even watch a Falcon game this year! This signals once and for all that MV is gone forever. That alone makes this the perfect pick.
By Volstar
April 26, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this
Vick was not coming back to the Falcons long before this draft. Ryan was a reach at #3. Maybe he will work out, but no QB has ever looked good in their first year. It all adds up to another losing year for the Falcons.
By coleman
April 26, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this
There’s nothing racist in having misgivings about the Ryan pick. I’m a white dude who would’ve much preferred seeing us pick Dorsey at #3.
I’ll just have to reserve judgement until we see how the rest of the draft turns out. Coming out of round 2, we still haven’t added any beef on the DL.
Even more long term, no one will truly know if this was the right decision until 3-4 years from now.
By ToeKnee
April 26, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this
Mediocre? That’s really the best word to describe your sentiments? I understand the Dorsey logic, and yes, our lines are going to be our biggest weaknesses…again. But, If you are going to take a quarterback, why would you take anyone but Ryan? Henne,Brohm,Flacoo, whoever, they’re not as good as Ryan. I don’t see the potential to lead a team, ahem franchise, for years like Ryan does, and i emphasize the word potential here because in the draft thats all ya got. I just felt like Dimitroff had two ways to go about this draft:1)NO QB, go with what ya got there, too much else not in place, build everything else first (Hey!like the bears did with rex grossman, and yea they almost won a super bowl….almost.)…..or 2)take Ryan and then build. And to me it just seems like if you are planning to take a QB at ALL, then why settle for anything less than Ryan.
By Navigator
April 26, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this
It’s official now, picking Ryan became a racial issue; thanks Mr. Moore. After reading so many of the blogs, it became apparent that there would be a racial divide (people still held out hope that MVick would return to QB). I guess if 90% of the African American votes choose Obama, it stands to reason that 100% of those same voters support the MVick return. Mr. Moore we know who you supported for QB, and for President.
By marko
April 26, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this
I expected the Falcons would jump on Dorsey, it was a safe pick. Ryan came as a bit of a shock. Bottom line, Dimitroff knows what he’s doing or he does’nt. I don’t care how the Falcons do in after draft polls. I care about how they play next year. Mr, Dimitroff, this is not the pick I would have made, but I sincerely hope that you prove me wrong.
By kj
April 26, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this
Terrence, Weren’t you the one a few weeks ago saying that Ryan was the only logical choice? Now that they followed your impaired wisdom you want to bash the picks! Give the new guys a chance. geez
By Mike Hampton
April 26, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this
Gee Wiz..I thought I had health issues…Picking an offensive lineman (Sam Baker) was hampered by injuries the last two seasons. He needed surgery on his left knee following his junior season, and was slowed by a cracked rib and a strained hamstring in 2007. What an idiot Dimitroff. What an idiot you are. Your choice was a no brainer….Glen Dorsey was just too darn easy !
By Glenn
April 26, 2008 7:53 PM | Link to this
This draft makes a whole lot of sense to me as does where they picked them. Baker was about to go, there was a run on offensive linemen, and he was a 3 year winner. Matt Ryan is also a proven winner, and by the time we build up our lines he will be ready. Does anyone give credit to better coaching, that’s what this team has now? They will get more out of the guys they have. And, Lofton he is also a winner and a player whose better days are ahead. I say 8.5 out of 10 for how Dimitroff did. Only KC was better!
By martha
April 26, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this
I heard the boos at the Ryan picking! Don’t know if Atlanta has the right coaching staff to mold a qb into a Brady type—that’s the whole problem. I miss Vick’s excitement on the field—even without the dogfighting thing, whites were trying to run him out of town anyway—now you have your smart white qb and you can have your stadium back too!
By Tmac
April 26, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this
The great ghost of Falcons past came to Blank in a dream and said: “Draft Ryan and they will come”. NOT!!!!!!!!!! Well at least I can count on our hometown high school to give me some excitement this year. Go RHS Jackets. A real football team. PS Please don’t tease the fans by making us think that DJ will get an actual shot at the starting job.
By Just another Falcon Fan
April 26, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this
It saddens me that while the sports franchise is trying to rebuild after the horrible actions of the previous quarterback, that Moore would exploit his racial views. At least he came out of the closet this time, and everyone understands the basis of his views. He once said that African Americans couldn’t be racist, my answer there is be white and walk through sections of east Chicago. I doubt that those people believe that view either.
By San Antonio Falcon
April 26, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this
If anybody saw Ryan beat VTech the way he did along with GTech, and the precision of his passing game would have been impressed. That is when Ryan made me a believer. What about all the 1st Round QB successes: Manning, Manning, Rivers, Ben Rothlisberger, Kid at Denver don’t look too bad, Donavan McNabb, Carlson Palmer and the infamous Mike Vick was exactly a bust, but he was BUSTED!
By Silks
April 26, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this
Hey, at least I won’t have to see these idiots wearing their “VICKTIM” shirts at the Georgia Dome any more. That was pathetic.
I think the Falcons have done just fine this draft. They filled needs at QB, OT, and LB. A needs-based draft, just like Dimitroff said.
By bocabrave
April 26, 2008 7:58 PM | Link to this
same old pathetic falcons. ryan will be gone in 5 years, and this operation of losers will still suck. pathetic, really pathetic!
By fish
April 26, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this
Tm, you know that first pick was crap. St.Louis handed us a real stud and we choose little of Matt Ryan. We’re not talking about Glenn Dorsey, but Mat Ryan. We could have choose a Henne in the second round, but tell me we got Matt Ryan. Man, I really got to drink to this. Arthur blow it again.
By savannah dawg
April 26, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this
If the Falcons would have picked Andre Woodson with the third overall pick, Terrence would think it was the greatest pick in the history of the NFL.
By Cruzin
April 26, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this
Good article Terence. They could have done better, but they did what they did. Anything will be an improvement over last year. I think it’s best to get rid of the memory of Vick and move on.
By Tmac
April 26, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this
Have you guys watched the clips on Baker? He getting worked by college guys to the point of loosing his balance on 90 percent of his plays. I can,t do this anymore. Go Jerious Norwood, Micheal Turner, Roddy White, and good luck DJ (The only one whom can bring back the fans) we love you man.
By ted
April 26, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this
Terence says we now have the great white hope!
By Paul from Milton
April 26, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this
Based on the fact that the rest of the NFL is ignoring Brohm and Henne, I’d say the Falcons did the right thing and made the right pick. They got the best QB on the board and a quality lineman to protect him. Then they got a run stuffing inside linebacker with plenty of quality DTs still left on the board. I like what they have done. Nice job so far.
By usetobeafalconfan
April 26, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this
this was the worst draft ever, they are now the Midtown Falcons if you know what I’am a talking about. Ryan will be horrible the team will be horrible. No one will come to the game. Ryan cannot sell out the dome, and he threw for 19 interceptions. The midtown falcons told us they would build the team throught the lines. They lied and once again they made stupid mistakes with the draft, and I don’t care what you say Lofton is very slow and will be a special teamer does Hartwell ring a bell.
By Matt
April 26, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this
Never thought I would agree with Moore, but this draft is horrible. Ryan will be a huge bust. He is the next Carr/Harrington, etc. Baker could have been had in the 2nd round. So basically we gave away a pick to draft an O-lineman we could have had in the 2nd round. Remember the last USC tackle we drafted, Travis Claridge, that worked out well. Basically we gave DeAngelo Hall away for nothing. This is the worst draft I can remember. I hope Dimitroff and Smith start packing their bags. They are garbage. The Carolina Panthers just got a new fan. I am done with the Falcons. I cant take this garbage. Dorsey was the pick. The screwed it up yet again.
By sherman crockett
April 26, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick will return to another NFL team with a vengeance. I predict that he will return a new, more mature man, and will win at least two Super Bowls, one of them possibly against you know who.
By Mike
April 26, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this
I quit reading Terence’s “black-leaning” articles some time ago, but I had to read his article about Matt Ryan. Sort of like having to look at a wreck when passing by. Anyway, I think it’s a bad pick as well. Time will tell, but I think we have another Chris Miller.
By jules3
April 26, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this
it looks like another C- grade to me. Not what was needed for an F level team. It seems like we could have been more creative with our surplus of high picks and multiple needs … like KC. We should have offered less (say a 2 and a late 3) for Baker or we should have moved up further for our two 2’s for a better graded OT. Now we will have to get our starting DT and CB in the 3rd. Looks like we will have another chance to draft high next year.
By BigLG
April 26, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this
Wow a lot of love in here I feel good with the Picks the Falcons made I mean only time will tell if these guys are Hall of Fame Bound or Bust. Thats the beauty of the Draft you never no what your gonna get
By Robbie Williams
April 26, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this
I think that Matt Ryan is going to be a bust but i’m a Falcon at heart. I feel that Glenn Dorsey woul have been a better fit for this team at this point. Could have picked up a quarterback in the second round. This should spell the end to Vick so Vick fans let it go an move on.
By EW
April 26, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this
With the 3rd pick - the AF take Opie Taylor! With the 21st pick - the AF take Richie Cunningham!
Hey Me, exactly what did Terrence say that was so racist?
By Joe
April 26, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this
Aren’t you the same guy who recommended drafting J. Anderson last year? How is that working out?
By JD
April 26, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this
I totally agree with you Terence. The #3 draft choice was wasted for a decent QB that doesnt have a solid O-Line to protect him, meaning that he will never develop to his possible (gamble) potential in the league when most teams had passed on QBs in the first place showing what type of team they were trying to build around a QB and defensive line. Atlanta probably could have still got him further into the draft especially how they traded up to get Baker. This will be a sad season and hopefully we go 3-13 to get another pick then maybe Teebow will enter the draft early and we can clean the QB roster for him, only if they develop an O-Line through free agency.
By terrance moreracism
April 26, 2008 8:20 PM | Link to this
I hate to say terrance that when I saw the first two picks I imediately though how you would hate them. I cant help but thinking your dislike is not because of their talent but their skin color. In a city completely devided by racial lines, this draft represents a way to heal some of our wounds. New team members and coaches need the benefit of the doubt and your support. Please quit hoping that they will fail so you can right the I told you so article about not drafting the black athlete
By SeminoleWarrior
April 26, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this
A great set of picks thus far with the potential to get even better with significant value on Sunday. Ryan and Norwood, and the team will be far better prepared than next year. We are moving in the right direction and I appaul what TD has done to date!! GO FALCONS..
By BirdMahn
April 26, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this
The selection of Ryan is so right on many levels. Mr. Moore doesn’t get it and that is no surprise.
Moore is so sure Dorsey is a better pick? Glenn is no lock either. Remember a guy named Andrey Bruce? How’d that work out?
By Gary S.
April 26, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this
Mr. Moore you racist feelings are ridiculous. Mike Vick is done. He has poor judgement. Let’s build with a new leader. Defensive line needs help but we need a quarterback first. Where are you going to get a quarterback? It takes years to develop a quarterback. We can’t wait until next year to start the development. Good pick with Ryan. The kid says he wants to start studying the playbook right away. I like his attitude! He’s going to be a Pro Bowler!
By tc
April 26, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this
Terrence, Vick is not coming back, so get over it!! We have purged all the whiners and trouble makers off the team, and I am sure the new GM and coaching staff want to keep it that way. I for one like our draft picks so far. This stupid logic about not wanting to take a chance on a first round quarterback makes no sense at all. Later round quarterbacks have a much greater chance at FAILURE than a top pick that is regarded by everyone as the best quarterback in the draft. All you whiners and crybabies should realize it is much more difficult to get a good quarterback than a good lineman.
By Michael
April 26, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this
Terence would have trouble with us acquiring Tom Brady via trade. After all he is WHITE! Screw You AJC.
By Zack
April 26, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this
Actually Terrence, this is a terrific pick. He apparently has zero question marks on his character and integrity and has proven he knows how to win. Vick was exciting but he wasn’t a team player and his inability to lead consistently was obvious to everyone. It’s time to move on and this guy Ryan is solid. Here is reality, if either you or me knew anything about picking and/or managing NFL talent we wouldn’t be a sports columnist and a professional college student would we? Get on board with the local guys man…your negativity is a cancer.
By Proud dawg
April 26, 2008 8:27 PM | Link to this
Remember that saying about putting all your eggs in one basket? Well we did it once and have now done it again… The falcons will be shopping for a new QB in 3 years mark my word!
By jeff
April 26, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this
Why is that Mr. Moore forgot to mention all the black qb’s who were first round busts, a list that may include Vince Young. And are you just now getting the message that Michael “I am a Thug and not a very good one at that” Vick will never again play for Atlanta? Would you re-hire someone who stole a $20 million bonus from you?
By mecca
April 26, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this
This was a terrible pick. But u CRACKERS WANT THAT WHITE BOY!
By coleman
April 26, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this
There’s nothing racist in having misgivings about the Ryan pick. I’m a white dude who would’ve much preferred seeing us pick Dorsey at #3.
I’ll just have to reserve judgement until we see how the rest of the draft turns out. Coming out of round 2, we still haven’t added any beef on the DL.
Even more long term, no one will truly know if this was the right decision until 3-4 years from now.
By Cluck cluck
April 26, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this
Its offical Terence Moore is an idiot.
By siestadude
April 26, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this
My season tickets are no “officially” FOR SALE! I AM DONE BEATING MY FRIGGIN HEAD INTO A WALL WITH THIS STUPID TEAM!!! Matt Ryan? Matt Ryan @ #3? OMG! I never thought they were that stupid. They proved me wrong again. DUMB AND DUMBER AND NOW….TOTAL D*******! I have kept my mouth shut. But, no longer - Art, you should have stuck to Hammers.
By michaelgee
April 26, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this
TM, still the racist at heart!
Crying becaus ethey picked a white guy over a black guy. That, plus your entire history iof anti-white anything, defines you as a racist TM.
By bulldoghater
April 26, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this
Racists. This must be a southern blog (LOL).
Matt Ryan was a safe pick. Will it increase attendance at Falcons game? NO. He probably would not play until mid season after the Falcons are no longer in playoff contention. Ryan has no supporting cast. It will take at least 2 or three drafts for the Falcons to start winning again.
There are many people that still believe Vick will play again for the Falcons. This pick should put those thoughts to rest. The Falcons will lose a lot of fans this season; at least, they can get the #1 draft pick next season.
By Dean [UK]
April 26, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this
You are wrong. You can not imagine how excited to have matt ryan, i am - he’s a born leader, hes a great QB and we can forget Vick in atlanta now. He’s more than just a 3rd pick QB - he’s a fresh start in Atlanta!
By Wendel
April 26, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this
With the 3rd pick of the draft, the AF select Opie Taylor. With 21st pick of the draft, the AF select Richie Cunningham. The Rams gift rapped Dorsey to the Falcons. Horrible pick. This was not a racist column by the way.
By Charlie
April 26, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this
TM just can’t stand it that the Falcon’s drafted a (gulp) WHITE GUY! The only team TM would be satisfied with would be Florida A&M! Give it up Moore. Your bigotry has grown old. Very old!
By JM
April 26, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this
I’m not worried about Ryan becoming a bust. It’s a fair point that a number of high first round draft picks at QB haven’t panned out in recent years, but Ryan isn’t comparable to them, in my opinion. I’ll just take the ones Moore mentioned. Leaf was pigheaded and had a terrible work ethic, and Couch, Carr and Smith were all weak-armed passers who were badly misevaluated by scouts in hindsight. Ryan is an exceptionally hard-worker by all accounts and has the prototypical tools that many highly-touted QB’s before him lacked.
I’m not certain Ryan’s a franchise QB, but I’ll be shocked if he’s anything less than a reliable starter for many years.
By Vick is a THUG
April 26, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this
TM, you’re just a racist THUG. I guess you’ve already made your call to Jesse Jackson crying racism again.
By kg
April 26, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this
I’m a bit disappointed, but given how the draft was going, the Falcons had to make a move. Baker was the best OT available. We gave up a lot to get him, but look at what the Panthers gave up to get Otah - a second, a fourth and a first next year. Given that, I think we did ok. Jaws and Steve Young fell that Ryan can be excellent. Also, Kiper had him rated at the same grade as Peyton and Big Ben. Let’s see what happens, it’s going to be a three year building process anyway.
By phil
April 26, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this
Wow LEAVE IT TO THE FALCONS TO DROP THE BALL AGAIN WE NOW HAVE 5 QUATERBACKS WITH CONTRACTS ON THE TEAM….IDIOTS THE SHOULD HAVE BUILT DEFENSIVE AND O LINE FIRST! WAY TO GO AUTHER……….
CAN I GET AN AMEN
By siestadude
April 26, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this
AMEN!
By Orlando
April 26, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this
No supporting cast? I’m sorry, didn’t Atlanta just get Michael Turner to team up in the backfield with Jerious Norwood? Didn’t Roddy White have a 1,000 yard season at WR with three incompetent QBs?
Wow, you haters are just idiots! Thanks to you I’m going to root even harder for Matt Ryan to succeed just to shut you up.
There are no QBs that will be any good next year unless Matthew Stafford comes out, and I guess Brohm wasn’t that good if no one drafted him yet.
By Daniel
April 26, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this
Terrence won’t like any Atlanta athlete that is Caucasian. Period. Never. Ever.
By siestadude
April 26, 2008 8:51 PM | Link to this
AMEN!!! Henne or BB in Round #2 - that is a SAFE and SMART pick! Linemen in Round #1 = SAFE PICK! What they did…..SIMPLY STUPID! Matt Ryan will get KILLED! Who is going to block??? Midget arms Baker? Bad footing Baker? Who will stop the opposing rushers? There is 5 QB’s on Roster. Do we even have a DL????? LMAO
By Ryder
April 26, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this
JM I agree. What a lot of people don’t understand is that all of these quarterbacks that were mentioned were products of an offensive system in college that failed miserably in the pros because they couldn’t handle the pro set offense.
Matt Ryan, just like Manning, was used to playing in a pro set and has the work ethic it will take to succeed. Yes it will take possibly two to three years, but this is the smart approach while Atlanta grows as a unit.
You won’t get an amen, phil, but what I will give you is a spell check…..
By Jonny
April 26, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this
TM, you are right on that these are uninspired, mediocre picks. Unbelievable, they gave up 2 2nd rounders for a guy they could have GOTTEN with their first 2nd round pick… come to think of it, TM, you are being kind in merely saying these are mediocre picks. And Matt Ryan from an uninspired ACC as 3rd overall? WHAT?!? Look at Ryan’s games against a decent D… yeah, it’s not just average; it’s bad.
This has Art Blank written all over it.
By RaySkee
April 26, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this
They really had me fooled. This looks like the same ole FALCONS! Or, maybe I'm just wrong and I really hope so. I felt we needed to beef up our interior lines and defensive backfield. I think it was more to end the so called VICK ERA, but the VICK ERA was over when he got locked up. I just really think Matt Ryan was that much better than the rest of the quarterback in the draft. Well, we will see.By bulldoghater
April 26, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this
Orlando: Let’s see how many yards Michael Turner and Jerious Norwood get behind the Falcons offensive line. Warrick Dunn certainly didn’t get any help from them. I don’t think Roddy White got a 1000 yards receiving. You should support Matt Ryan. He’s going to need all the support he can get. He will be in a division with the Bucs, Panthers, and Saints. The defense will be so bad that Ryan will have to throw 80 passes a game to keep the score respectable.
By tc
April 26, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this
I am so sick of you Vick and Shockley supporters spouting this racist crap. Sure Vick was exciting, but he obviously will never stay out of trouble. DJ has been injured ever since he has been with the team. How can we possibly count on these 2 guys to help the team? Stop cracking on Dimitroff, Smith, and Ryan just because they are not the skin color that you prefer. Hey, if these guys can do the job and make the Falcons winners, I don’t care what color they are. And to all you disgusted and disgruntled “fans”, good freakin’ riddance.
By Supes
April 26, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this
First, if Matt Ryan had came out last year…he would have been…yeah that’s right! A late round pick at best!
Second…if Brian Brohm had came out last year he would have been rated even ahead of the “mighty” Brady Quinn!
Brian Brohm suffered from a change of offensive coaches, a new system, losing players around him, he was basically all the Cardinals had.
There is nothing Matt Ryan has shown that he is better than Bryan Brohm…and Mel and Tod can kiss Matt Ryan’s a* all they want, in five years Brohm, Henne and Flacco will be better and the Falcons will be right back here…selecting a QB in the first round of the draft.
The Falcons should have build from the inside out with Glen Dorsey, and drafted either Henne or Brohm in the second round.
It makes the most sense and you are not reaching.
They have DJ Shockley, Redman who is serviceable, and Harrington who is decent.
Frak the Loser Falcons! Anyone want seasons tickets…if I hear “intelligent” once more I’ll have to throw up. Who cares about that, Just win Baby! You aren’t going to win with Ryan and a crappy defense and offesive line.
By johnny
April 26, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this
after this draft,wait till next year will be the chant by game 6 this season.all those picks and they still managed to screw this draft up.crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By TDFAN
April 26, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this
Terrence, why don’t you offer your oprinions as that instead of trying to make us believe they are uncontestable facts? NO ONE KNOWS if Matt Ryan will be a bad, good, or great NFL quaterback. My OPINION, based on seeing him deconstruct the Ga. Tech defense is that he looked like a pro quaterback. Time will tell. What about Dorsey’s health issues?
By toby
April 26, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this
TM, have you ever hired a kid out of college? Studied film of him writing for his college paper? Given him physical and mental tests, then decided he was your guy? Didn’t think so. Give Ryan a chance just like the one you are continually given by your editors.
Can’t help but think that you wrote this article a couple of days ago just waiting for the pick.
Oh yeah, say hello to the last two Super Bowl winning QBs for me, both of whom were the first QBs in their draft.
Andre Woodson… please.
By jimmie08
April 26, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this
So what you’re saying is..”as a racist I’d prefer all black players and coaches in the NFL”. Please leave jerk…you’ve been pretending to cover sports for way too long.
By bigwednsdy
April 26, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this
Y’all know Terence had two columns written - one for if the Falcons took Dorsey, another if they took Ryan. It didn’t matter to him which way they went, TM was going to say the Falcons took the wrong guy.
By bwtbird
April 26, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this
Why do folks keep saying that we gave up a huge amount to get Baker?? We gave up two 2nds and a fourth for…one first, one third and one fifth. We have the same number of picks as before, got the lineman they felt was necessary and still have quality picks to go. Lets’ give the guy a chance…and stop acting as if there is such certainty that Dorsey will be an all-pro…Ryan will bust…etc
By usedtobeafan
April 26, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this
The pick sucks!!!! matt ryan sucks and this does not make me want to renew my season tickets…could someone give me the number to the panthers ticket office??
By falcon fan
April 26, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this
Don’t usually comment on these blogs but this one I had to. I see on some other articles on the picks that the writers and the bloggers are questioning the falcons picks for the draft. Only on this blog is it turning into a racial issue. I am usally the last person to agree with a TM article especially the way he seems to be anti everything GA in most of his articles. But when other writers in the AJC write an article that criticizes the GA teams, be it college or pro, there is not nearly the hostile response that TM gets. I think that it is really sad that racial issues are still where they are in this country after so long with it being as it is and we still have not learned to discus issues between races without it becoming racially divided and this is coming from a white male. That being said, I am really disappointed with the direction the Falcons took in this draft, but being a fan, I am going to give them and chance and see how things work out and hopefully they will work out for the best and get the birds back to the playoffs and back to the superbowl.
By Supes
April 26, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
You heard it here first…Matt Ryan will set the Falcons single season record for INT’s and come close to the NFL mark.
I guess he will be a record setter in some ways!
Meanwhile, Glen Dorsey will be the most impactful rookie DT in the NFL and probably have between 8-10 sacks and plenty of tackles to go with it.
By Dog Lover
April 26, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
Different people same old results for the Falcons. I hope I’m proven wrong. Stop trying to use the race card, when T. Moore did not use it. I never agree with him but I’m afraid he is correct this time. This draft sucks I swear we give everything away and get nothing in return. We need players not projected pretty boys of course what do you expect from YOUR ATLANTA FALCONS, back to back winning seasons? For the last 30 years I have sworn that I would not be sucked in again but I think Imean it this year. No more of my money for these idiots to waste. Could look at the SEC for a player. Thank God for college football.
By JB
April 26, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this
Everyone thought Mario Williams was a horrible pick over Reggie Bush after his rookie year. No one thinks that anymore. Many experts think Matt Ryan is a francise QB, so stop acting like this is a reach. Things will be fine.
By Stunnedfan
April 26, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this
What a profoundly bad draft so far,I hope the third and fourth round are better.to lose two second rounders and pick 19 inteceptions is flat out stupid.my son could have made better picks than this,to me it seems like the finger was on the panic button or there was a draft dart board in the “war room” either way if sunday does’nt play out any better this friggin team is going to suck. coach Smith I hope your a miracle worker.
By The AntiMe
April 26, 2008 9:31 PM | Link to this
Terrence Moore is not an idiot. Actually, he’s a Moore-On.
By Bob
April 26, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this
Henne I could understand, but Andre Woodson? Andre Woodson? Until that suggestion, the article was more measured and racially neutral than I had expected. But if the Falcons had drafted Andre Woodson as their potential quarterback of the future, especially since they don’t have a decent quarterback of the present, the team would have been laughed out of the league.
By charlie
April 26, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this
damn, let’s give this team a little time before being so DAMN negative!!! Give the new GM and coach time. My guess is that if we would have picked any one other than Dorsey, TM would have questioned it. TM< why didn’t you mention how good Peyton Manning is? How about Super Bowl winning QB Eli Manning? Big Ben? How about Phillip Rivers? My bet is Ryan will be light years better than Henne, Brohm, Flacco, and especially Woodson.
By bryan
April 26, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this
wow! Vick was an exciting plsyer to watch. As a complete QB, he was below average. The Falcons have let go of him. You should, too.
For the first time ever, I am impressed with the off-season moves the Falcons have made. That includes their most recent move (and most urgent need)….Ryan
By KQuark
April 26, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this
I love how everyone does to the 6th round pick card with Brady. Brady is the very rare exception most franchise QBs come in the first round. Ever hear of the Manning brothers?
This is a case of analysis paralysis. Matt Ryan was the best pick ever since the Falcons won got the third pick. Then the pundits analyzed the pick to death for any reason to make Ryan not the first round pick.
Ryan was a great pick. The Falcons needed to definitely turn the page or we will have another year talking about if Vick is coming back or not. Blank’s answer to that question, a resounding “NO!”.
By Play
April 26, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this
I don’t see anything racist about Terrance’s comments. He’s just giving an honest opinion, one that I happen to share. Why skip on Dorsey, who is a man-beast and will instantly improve your d-line? I don’t think Ryan will be any better than Leftwich or Harrington. Redman was the best option at QB, but now Ryan may be forced to play early which could be bad news for him.
By Why Waste Money?
April 26, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this
Memo to Mr. Blank — You sure are wasting a lot of money on a GM and a coaching staff when you could hire a whole group of these “experts” for what you’re paying the equipment manager.
As difficult as it is to get 3 or more people to agree on where to eat lunch, what are the odds that there wouldn’t be about as many opinions on draft picks as there are people to express them? The GM and coaching staff have to sink or swim with their choices. The experts here don’t have to account to anyone, anywhere, or anytime concerning their opinions. The overwhelming opinion here isn’t related to football skills or team needs but is based on race, skin color or whatever veil you want to put on it.
It’s 2008 folks. “The War” ended in 1864, Brown v Board of Education is over 50 years old and we’re still basing half of everything we do, say or think on race. It’s time to get over it!
Let Mr. Blank and his employees run their football team however they wish. After all, he/they are going to reap any profits or suffer from this enterprise. In the meantime, whether or not to support the team is a personal matter. Make your choice and move on but leave out the hate, racial beliefs and venom. The common ground for everyone is supposed to be a football team to support, collectively.
By Mike Hampton
April 26, 2008 9:38 PM | Link to this
Gee Wiz..I thought I had health issues…Picking an offensive lineman (Sam Baker) was hampered by injuries the last two seasons. He needed surgery on his left knee following his junior season, and was slowed by a cracked rib and a strained hamstring in 2007. What an idiot Dimitroff. What an idiot you are. Your choice was a no brainer….Glen Dorsey was just too darn easy !
By Black and Proud
April 26, 2008 9:38 PM | Link to this
Amen brother Moore. I can’t believe the first two picks were white boys.
By Incredible
April 26, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this
How is TM racist for this remark of picking Dorsey ahead of Ryan. On Mel Kiper’s best available players, Dorsey was ahead of Ryan. Oops, I guess that makes Mel Kiper racist too.
By Falco
April 26, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this
Terence is ridiculous. No wonder I don’t buy the AJC. Why can’t he just accept that Vick is gone for at least TWO SEASONS! He’s overwhelming disliked in Georgia (except by Blacks) and he won’t play for the Falcons again. Give it up. Go have a good cry in your pillow tonight and write Vick a love letter that he can tape to his jail cell wall.
I agree in principle that Matt Ryan was a terrible pick at #3 considering we only got him b/c he was the “best QB in the draft”. But being the best QB in the draft doesn’t justify picking him in the top 5.
And no Terence, I am not a racist. I thought we should have picked Dorsey at #3 because he would have had immediate impact at the D-Line. QB’s are such a gamble in the draft, which is why I disagreed about how high we drafted one. This does not mean Matt Ryan will be the next Ryan Leaf. Your comparisons to other former 1st round QB’s are sophomoric considering they are just worthless predictions. No one knows how good Matt Ryan will be. It’s just a risky move made by an overbearing owner named Arthur Blank.
By eric
April 26, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this
worst draft in recent falcon history took a qb that looked horrible against nfl caliber dbacks(miami) such a good prospect in league with no real quality corners(ACC) didnt have the zip on the ball like henne who you could have got in the 2nd without losing picks very awful evaluation of talent by the birds like usual scouts like ryan since they noticed him in highschool while brother played div II. ps football is played in the trenches please jerry jones buy the falcons cause we need a football man in da atl not a customer satisfaction guy
By GPMAN
April 26, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this
At first I thought Dorsey was the better pick but after listening to all you racist homeboys rant about MV THE LOSER I changed my mind. I like the pick! It would be nice to take my family to a game that did not resemble a rap concert. And maybe even get some decent music in the dome.
By bigeasy830
April 26, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this
T-Moore, I do not like you, but I agree with you 100% on this one. Many racist will call you racist for your comment. You did not inject race into your column, so why do they. The Falcons gets an F on this draft so far. The only pic I liked is Lofton. Passing up on Dorsey is equivalent on the Hawks passing up on CP3, we will regret it for years to come. Don’t get me wrong, Ryan has the potential be a very good QB, but he will be passing the ball from his rear end after he get sacked. All those QB’s that you mentioned Terrance were drafted by very bad teams with no O linemen just like the Falcons, Those QB’s got shellshocked from all the sacks they took. I perdict the same will happen to Matt Ryan. Sam Baker do not have 1st roud ability. He will be a bust. Those 3 pics we gave up for him could have helped the team immediately next year. Dorsey would have solidifeid our Defense and made every other player on D better because he commands a double team. It would have freed up the DE on his side and freed up the linebackers to roam and be more agressive. remeber, Van Gorder loves an agressive scheme. I do not believe we should have drafted with the thought that MV7 is not coming back, because he is still on the roster and he will again be a playmaker for a team when he returns. This was a chance for the falcons to finally build a solid team. MV7 did not screw the team, he screwed himself, but the Falcons are to stupid to see that their team just suck. MV7 really was a one man team. But, if they wanted to go QB, next year was the year to do so. Tim Teabow will leave Florida early, trust me, he cannot continue to take those hits by running the ball all the time and not get paid for it. If he stays to much longer and get a few more injuries it will hurt his stock in the draft. Also, who knows Stafford may leave UGA early after leading us to the BCS national title, (GOOOO Dawgs sickem, woof, woof, woof), also Sanchez out at USC, or maybe, now brace yourselves, Perrilloux from LSU. The boy may be stupid but he has skills. All you people that want a team of choir boy players that suck, that you can be proud of you will have plenty of opportunity to see them next season, because they will suck and there will be plenty of empty seats. Demitrof and Smith I am disappointed, new names but same old sorry Falcons. Say what you will but Petrino did a much better job last year. I can’t blame him for leaving, Blanke is a meddler. I don’t care if he ownes the team or not, he do not know football.
P.S T-Moore, I still think you are a hater. But, you got more action on this blog than all the others combined recently. Eventhogh people has stopped responding to you, you know we are still reading it. Smart of you to do this day of the draft. I know I always say go back to Ohio, and I mean it. But you still my man…. Hater.
By Terry
April 26, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this
Next season, I think that we should have a blindfolded monkey throwing darts at the list of players. Or maybe that is what we have been using since 1966.
I would love to see Matt Ryan succeed, but it appears to me that we are going down the same road we’ve been down before.
If he makes it as a starting QB, he will be a cripple before 5 seasons are up.
Why can’t we get some hawgs on the O line to protect the QB, and some hawgs on the D line to pressure the opponent’s qb.
If Matt is as smart as TDim says he is, he best hope he doesn’t get to start until we get an O line.
By leftcoastfan
April 26, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this
t. moore. do not forget that mike vick was an illiterate kid from newport news, he could not read defenses, would rather bust up the play and run, and simply put, mv7 did not have the brains to stay out of jail. this guy ryan has brains, talent, and is a leader. vick was none of them.
matt ryan is a solid pick you fool. do you know what you are writing about. doesnt seem like it to mee.
By GeorgiaYankeesFan
April 26, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this
Moore is half right, the pick was highly debatable. But so was the Dorsey pick. In this league you never know, I would have preferred Dorsey and getting a QB with lower pick. New Falcon management viewed it differently and backed up the pick with a stud O Lineman. Time will tell but let