Chatter

By L Carl

July 22, 2006 08:16 PM | Link to this

Oh great! More benefits for the rich! Got money? Ride in the express lane!

By alex

July 22, 2006 08:27 PM | Link to this

I’ve already paid for the roads once so why should I have to pay again? Just the spend the money you have where it’s needed..in Atlanta!

By JC

July 22, 2006 08:38 PM | Link to this

Yes, if the less busy roads were a consequence of development of mass transit to all points of the city (and no, I don’t mean busses) with access from outside the city. After coming back from London I clearly see how pathetic MARTA is and how it needs to be taken to the next level to make a dent in the problems that we have, problems that are not going to get any better by just creating more lanes.

By MC

July 22, 2006 08:59 PM | Link to this

It’s really lamentable that mass transit was relegated to but a few lines near the end of the article. Who’s paying the AJC for their covert highway-building advocacy?

By Like that is going to work

July 22, 2006 09:01 PM | Link to this

I think the DOT should pay ME for waiting patiently for two hours while their butt-crack slob of a DOT worker picks up cones on I-85 South. Isn’t that why we pay taxes? For better transportion? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

By DD

July 22, 2006 09:22 PM | Link to this

The 10 billion dollars wasted each month in Iraq would fix our roads. But, we need to keep the military industry going instead.

By John Boy

July 22, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this

I paid earlier this week by casting my vote for Johns Creek. It is absolutely criminal that the money that should have been spent for road improvements in North Fulton has been going to that racist Emma Darnell and her constituants. No more, it’s over!

By slug

July 22, 2006 09:37 PM | Link to this

I know, we can enforce no tolerance for a year and hand out thousands of .01 and .02 DUI’s…that should pay for it - it’s helped build courthouses and anneses everywhere

By Road Rage

July 22, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this

I aint payin’ diddle dang poodle squat for nit nat tallywack. Bring back the horse. I hate cars, hate roads, hate traffic, hate gasoline, hate tires, hate windshields, hate construction, and I hate radar traps.

By Connor

July 22, 2006 11:00 PM | Link to this

When will the public along with planners both see the light and start some serious mass transit? If (metro) Atlantans really want a sustainable future in places like Alpharetta, the commuter rails MUST be extended into the suburbs. Building and expanding roads only encourages more driving and more traffic. Oh great, that’s what we need: more cars!

By wsusom

July 22, 2006 11:30 PM | Link to this

John Boy What in the hell are you talking about. The roads are paid for by city,state, and federal taxes on gas.Stop drinking the republican cool aid. The interstate system is the biggest welfare system of the modern era.

By JJ Johnson

July 22, 2006 11:35 PM | Link to this

I will make you a deal. Get the SLOW 18 wheel trucks off the highway during RUSH hour, FORCE old fashioned control freak managers to allow teleworking and flex-hours, repeat after me “A BUS SYSTEM IS NOT rapid transit” and switch the Georgia gold dome boys from roads and cement and construction companies to fiber optics and high speed data links and hey GUESS WHAT?

We may not need any more roads. Plus the air may not stink.Georgia Government is a mind set stuck in 1958 running a 2006 road and transportation system.

IT DON”T WORK

Teleworking and remote home offices ARE the only real answer

By Bubba

July 23, 2006 12:19 AM | Link to this

Well … You government folks just keep finding more ways to “tax” folks and they will leave.

Downtown Atlanta used to be the commerce center of the south just a few years ago. Businesses have moved from downtown due to traffic and parking problems.

Businesses will continue to relocate to more convenient locations to reach their desired employee sources based on currently available roadways and public transportation.

Government offices are the draw for much of the downtown commuter traffic and even government (state) is relocating many of its offices to metropolitan areas.

Private industry reacts much faster than government. Individuals flee populated areas to escape unjust taxes. Keep taxing (in various ways) and our now strong Atlanta will be weaker in the future.

By jaybird

July 23, 2006 12:39 AM | Link to this

YES !!! I’LL GLADLY PAY !!! By the way, to L. Carl , if this is a benefit to the “rich”, then the current system is a benefit to the “poor”, because if “rich” pay more for tolls, then aren’t the “poor” being subsidized now by paying a lot less in road taxes then the “rich” ?? Poor people can’t build roads.

By Cornholio

July 23, 2006 12:46 AM | Link to this

Why should the affluent and elitist get to pay for use of an express lane, while the rest of us are stuck in traffic created by the politicians and their developer cronies ?

I pay taxes for the construction and maintenance of the highways. How about diverting the truckers and big rigs that have no business in metro Atlanta, AWAY from Atlanta?

By jaybird

July 23, 2006 12:56 AM | Link to this

Cornholio….truckers pay more than you do, so do the wealthy…..You don’t like successful people(“elitists”) or blue collar joe luncbox (truckers)…So you only care about yourself ?

By jaybird

July 23, 2006 12:59 AM | Link to this

P.S.: Your computer was delivered by those truckers. America moves by truck.

By Driver

July 23, 2006 01:15 AM | Link to this

Tolls and taxes. It’s not gonna keep multitudes from clogging the narrow and poorly planned road/freeway system in Atlanta!

By Carl

July 23, 2006 02:14 AM | Link to this

The only toll roads we should suport are those that would be mandatory for commercial vehicles, buses, motorhomes and anyone towing a trailer. Without these on the interstates, congestion would probably drop by 50%. I have never seen an 18 wheeler pulled over for using one of the left 2 lanes or for going through Atlanta instead of using 285 (all the signs that I see for this - can’t our law enforcement do anything besides just watching for seat belt and car-pool lane violations???) We should demand that the existing laws be enforced before trying any toll system!

By virginia

July 23, 2006 03:30 AM | Link to this

Let the developers who have overbuilt the suburbs, and are now turning loose their runaway density inside 285 - all with little thought for the fragile infrastucture - pony up the money to pay for the consequences of their unbridled greed.

By Lisa

July 23, 2006 05:47 AM | Link to this

I wonder when all those dinosaurs were using the bathroom millions of years ago if they knew that their leftover poop would cause all these problems running the machines of the future? God must be having a big belly laugh over it

By Chris

July 23, 2006 05:47 AM | Link to this

Since employees in all other arenas are force to take pay cuts so that their product is cheaper. I think all DOT employees should take cuts so that it doesn’t cost $1 million lane/mile or whatever.

That cost seems ridiculous. Especially with the machinary they have laying the asphalt, which is cheap too.

Gov’t at its worst.

By James Lee Adams

July 23, 2006 06:35 AM | Link to this

So, objections arise because “poor” people would have “rich” people pay tolls so the “rich” won’t have to ride on the “poor” people’s tax paid roads therefore the “rich” pay so the “poor” can ride on less congested roads. Are the objections based on envy or logic?

By Morgan

July 23, 2006 06:51 AM | Link to this

I’m wondering how much thought goes into such “planning.” With environmental concerns, increasing fuel prices and continual gridlock at rush hour, how can anyone be promoting private vehicles as a “solution” to mobility?

It’s too bad that our culture promotes leaders who simply follow decades of failed agendas.

By bill

July 23, 2006 07:16 AM | Link to this

The same county commissioners who allowed this growth to occur without providing infrastructure i.e roads will be the ones (via late night vote)who say the county should pay thier tolls (perk) so they can get to thier meetings on time. High paid executives will not pay this out of thier own pocket the companies will provide this “benefit”. It’s coming “ruling class lanes” and “Working class lanes” Wake up !!

By walter

July 23, 2006 07:23 AM | Link to this

The only answer for congestion is rail. The governor needs to tell all the surrounding counties that Marta Rail service is coming and deal with it. More roads, more express lanes, look where they’ve gotten us so far. More congestion.

Get the trains running to all metro counties and get real public transportation going in Atlanta.

By Kevin Bailey

July 23, 2006 07:59 AM | Link to this

The last time I checked the State fuel tax was not 7.5 cents it was close to 30 cents.

I know after the hurricane the tax was dropped but the fuel companies had another tax added in Nov or Dec. The increase was due to the shipments of fuel from stilling having the tax price included when the service stations when the tax was excluded from the price.

The the tax went up 2 cents more in June and the state gas tax budget this year was close to a billion dollars.

The companies providing money are Goldman Sachs and other companies who help drive the construction cost up on the futures market.

If the gas tax is almost 30 cents and the roads are farmed out and we have no controls on the roads how and where does this help the average road warrior. The partnerships from one company did an audit, and it overcharged us by a huge chunk of change. Georgia 400 had to close lanes due to pot holes and found guard rails not up to safety code were installed and had to be corrected. How does this help us.

There is no set standard for a private company compared to a State or county road crew. How do we know the crew was not picked up from the local hardware store since the last time I looked you have to wield and know mixtures and other crucial items to build a proper road.

I think some learned from 316 that private partnerships is not the best when they wanted to toll all the lanes on 316.

If anything is done to the roads build a lane with a guardrail for miles and miles and call it a express lane. That would cut down on the people on trips or people working at the airport or other work places outside 75-85.

One last thing for the anti immigration groups look who builds the roads and picks up the trash and mows the interstates its the people you hate passed by a law by the people you love.

By Maery

July 23, 2006 08:01 AM | Link to this

Georgia needs better traffic engineers. I don’t what school the idiot went to that designed the three-lanes-merge-into-one on ramp! Doesn’t work, never will….people are not courteous enough to line up and allow others in. At 5:00 it’s every man for himself!

By jeff sewell

July 23, 2006 08:08 AM | Link to this

The tools must be reasonable but the real damage will come down the road when paying the GARVEE bonds consume the DOT budget and no other regular contracts can be put out. This is a political ripoff benefitting the mega contractors.

By Big Balla$$$$$$

July 23, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

I got plenty of money. Give me my own highway. If you poor folk dont want to ride it, stay off it. Ill pay $$ anyday not to sit in traffic. Most of the gridlock is losers trying to get to there 5 dollar an hour job at Smoothie King.

By Chris

July 23, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

FYI..roads and public transportation aren’t cheap, moving 5 million plus people around a metropolitan area is not an easy endeavor. The American fallacy that we have the right to everything and we don’t think we need to pay for it is laughable. Not that a city with a lot of jobs, no congestion with all of the amentities that you would ever want isn’t a nice dream but…. There are no easy answers but it is fun to read your “solutions” To answer the question yes I would pay tolls for less congestion but I wouldn’t pay a lot for not a lot less congestion. Unfortunately the local goverment lied when they said the 50 sent toll would be removed from the current 400 setup once the road was paid for so now they have lost credibility as far as I am concerned. If they would have removed the toll and said “look you can trust us if we collect tolls they will go to the roads and we will uphold our side of the bargain”. Personally I would prefer a higher gas taxs that would go toward transportation infrastructure upkeep and enhancements. It would encourage people to drive less in more fuel efficient cars and make public transportation economically more viable for more people.

By CP

July 23, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this

Adding more lanes to roads is not the answer. It solves nothing. The DOT needs to look at the commuter rails system from other large cities for models. We have the infrastructure to support it, but the politics and red tape are in the way.

By Marc

July 23, 2006 08:55 AM | Link to this

No. We pay enough in our yearly auto and gas taxes. Adding toll roads will only drive up the cost of living and doing business. This will then make it less affordable to live in the state which would significantly hurt the growth we have seen from the influx of people and business over the years.

By Gordon

July 23, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

Okay more taxes for the old men in the D.o.t. to use maybe a rail system like marta would help. Look on the southern end down here ther is very little done to make the traffic move faster so bring on the taxs for what. Gordon

By Tony

July 23, 2006 09:05 AM | Link to this

Absolutely not. We are taxed enough. It isn’t the citizen’s fault that population explosion and poor city planning have left Atlanta in the traffic quagmire it’s in now. No amount of raising taxes is going to cure the problem. When will we see that throwing money at a problem won’t cure it. Innovaition and intelligent planning will.

By Ray

July 23, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

No! I do not want to pay out more money for the opportunity to travel the highways and by-ways. In ten years, we will be right back at squre one. There needs to be attention placed on a more effective mass transit system. Those that manage our transportation system need to design something that is not the same run of the mill approach. HOV lanes and toll booths will work for awhile, but mass transit can grow and grow! That is what is needed in the State of Georgia.

By rpm

July 23, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

if a private company wants to acquire the land and build the road, then they can put in a toll road. but to sell them a road or right of way, that the taxpayers have already paid for and then turn around and charge the taxpayers to use them is wrong.

By kb

July 23, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

A lot of the problem could be addressed with telecommuting and/or flex time. Unfortunately, there are sooo many “uptight” managers out there who believe that if you telecommute, you’re probably at home goofing off. This usually comes from a manager who’s incapable, for whatever reason, of effectively managing workloads/productivity of employees.

As a manager, I’d always allow telecommuting if it were a suitable option for a particular role. And frankly, as long as the employee met or exceeded his productivity level in the office, I could have cared less what he was doing when - as long as the job got done.

Most of the managers in our office were of the mindset that if they had to be there and battle traffic, then everyone should. I think this reflects a petty/toddler type mentality and gives the work environment a nice kindergarten class feel.

By Sue

July 23, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

I vote NO. The problem demands multiple answers: Mass transit is a solution. Telecommuting is a solution. Car pooling is a solution. Discouraging throwing money at a problem is a solution. Electing people into government leadership who can use their imagination without using conventional answers is THE solution.

By James Hill

July 23, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

So typical. Like all other things “Atlanta”: Let’s not actually solve problems for the citizens of this area, no. Let’s solve them for the RICH citizens of this area. The rest of us suckers can just suck-wind. I’ve just about had it with this whole area. This is the typical approach in everything this region does. Those with MONEY can pay their their way into better PUBLIC services. Ridiculous.

By Sue

July 23, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

kb said all that needs to be said about human attitudes. Kudos!

By Nathan Williams

July 23, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

They guy who said teleworking and flex time is a good idea is dead on right. Our highways for the most part are adequate. The problem is everyone is on them at once. A friend of mine had a one hour commute each way. His former job would not allow ANY telework. He quit and found a better job that allows him to work 3 days a week from home. He logs in and the computer tracks his work time and production. If you allow telework combined with limiting construction traffic and truck traffic between 6-8Am and 4-6Pm we would not need any more roads. Trucks and construction during rush hour and Bad insecure Managers stuck in the “Leave it to Beaver” days forcing people to come in to work at once is the problem with traffic.

By Marietta Commuter

July 23, 2006 09:41 AM | Link to this

I already pay for my commute home from Buckhead on GA 400. 50 cents to snarl up at 285 - what a bargain!

By Tammy

July 23, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

Traffic “Planning” and “Government” is an OxyMoron. Cities and traffic should die like the coal powered steam train of the 1800’s. We have computer technology that would allow the majority of our people to work from home or remote work centers. All the people flowing in to a big energy hog building using energy hog cars while worthless managers stare and look at you in your rat maze cubicle while your home sits empty during the day being heated or cooled is just STUPID. We need a major society shift AWAY from our current wasteful way of working and transportation. SMOG and p** off commuters combined with high gas and home energy prices will FORCE a worker revolution away from town and back home. It’s time.

By Stewart

July 23, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this

Toll roads are great. They are a voluntary tax. You have the opportunity to choose whether you want to use the toll or not. I saw some great ideas including flex-time, telecommuting and commuter rail. However those are not enough to solve the problems of traffic in Atlanta or any other large city. Most of th e larger cities in the US (LA, Chicago, New York and Philadelphia) have an extensive toll-road infrastructure. So look at it as a piece of the puzzle. You are not forced to take the toll road. And for every car that is using the toll road is a car that is not clogging up the non-toll road.

By Seriously

July 23, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

There are some great new highways opening up in Iraq.

By Ga. State Senator (R)

July 23, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this

Anyone going to the fabulous Road Builder’s Ball this year?

By itsme

July 23, 2006 10:02 AM | Link to this

Is there anyone anywhere who really thinks that paying a toll will make the traffic better? Not I.

By jk

July 23, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

I lived in chicago and boston and one of the big reasons people move away from these places is the toll roads everywhere and high taxes.Plus it actually slows traffic down by bottlenecking at the toll.Come on people…it won`t hurt to learn from other cities.Please stop the tolls / hov lane/ lexus lanes / bus / truck lanes….it only creates more traffic in the other lanes.

By Gridlocked

July 23, 2006 10:03 AM | Link to this

This is not a viable solution. It will keep lower income families from getting to work … not brilliant And the net result will be to drive workers of all socioeconomic classes and businesses out of Atlanta. I’d probably leave.

By Happy Alaskan

July 23, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

Thanks for all the Highway money Georgia! We sure need it…..LOL!!!!

By Morgan

July 23, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

Consider the real cost of transportation - note this study was done in 1998.

What we are charged at the pump is nothing when you factor in the cost of turmoil in the Middle East and sacrifices of our soldiers and innocent civilians.

$20 a gallon seems reasonable, but imagine the outcry if everyone paid the costs directly. (Imagine what we could be doing if we had the Trillions of dollars we’ve committed to the Iraq quagmire.)

By sickofthesouth

July 23, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

The ONLY thing that will help is the RAIL. Stop the hands into our pockets for the Highway Builders benefit!! Get on a frickin’ train, Mon-Fri, and enjoy life again!!

By jk

July 23, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this

Im still waiting for the ga 400 toll to go away.Remember that people?Now they want more toll roads.Im telling you its a bad deal.there has got to be a better way.How about a really comprehensive light rail system?Id ride it.It`s a lousy idea no matter how you slice it to make traffic on a major highway come to a complete stop in order to go through a toll booth.

By jk

July 23, 2006 10:24 AM | Link to this

sickofthesouth has it right…get on a train if you get to a city that has one.You will like the experience.You will feel alive again!!!Persuade your representative not to implement toll roads.I know many people in cities with lots of toll roads and they hate them.

By Stewart

July 23, 2006 10:26 AM | Link to this

JK,

Light-rail around the Perimeter might make sense, but people would stil have to drive and park at a rail station. It would costs bilions upon billions to create a mass-transit system that works in Atlanta. On a per commuter basis, it would be much more expensive when you take into account parking, costs of tickets and the state funding to operate this system.

Also, most regions are doing away with toll booths. The states of Illinois and Florida will have no more toll booths within three years. They are going to what is called open-road tolling.

By jk

July 23, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

There will not be less traffic on the toll roads…just the existing traffic paying more because there is no alternative to driving in metro Atlanta.Marta is non-existent in the burbs.Cobb county transit is so sporadic in their routes that you can`t count on them when you need them …so we do the only thing left….drive.

By Russ

July 23, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

How about taking half of the $1.8 billion that’s going to be used on the I-75/I-575 project and spend it on expanding our rail system. If people use the MARTA to go to Falcons games, wouldn’t they use it to get to work?

One more thing and I’m not trying to offend anyone, but why do the residents of Gwinnet keep voting down the rail system? Could someone please shed some light on this topic for me? In my opinion the traffic situation far outweighs a theory of increase crime rate in the burbs. Isn’t the future of our city and its commerce the most important thing we need to be concerned about?

I really think that since this is a metro problem and not just a county problem that all of the resident in metro Atlanta should have the right to vote on this particular situation.

By Sold my SUV

July 23, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

People need to take action NOW. Stop complaining about how our tax money was spent on the roads (note tense). With Gwinnett rapid transit, GRTA, CCT, and the much maligned MARTA, almost all Metro is accessable by bus, rail, bicycle, and sidewalk. If a bus does not service your area directly, GRTA has a van pool service. Go to their websites and find how close they come to your home. Start riding tomorrow. Please! I plead with anybody who reads this!

There are ways to get all over this city besides the car. But based on ridership, the demand simply is not there to justify spending more on rail. It shouldn’t be about profits, but it is. People, end your habits of 1-passenger car commute to work, driving your kids to school, and driving to events! Bus and Marta, sacrifice the convenience! (which isn’t convenient when you’re stalled on any of our major and minor roads).

Taking public transport, you might enjoy the people watching. And you might meet people. The only thing anybody really has control over is her/his own habits. When it comes to commuting, 99% of the people who live in the metro area need to change commuting habits.

It’s truly the time to sacrifice. Carpool, bike, walk, and public transport. Otherwise you are the cause of the problem, not the bureaucrats.

By jk

July 23, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

Ok stewart, open road tolling is better than booths.But how will tolling get people that need to drive off the road if there is no alternative.I mean what are we trying to do here…solve the traffic problem or raise more tax revenue?As I understand it there aren`t any plans to build enough new roads to keep up with the demand.I just think that in the end there will be tolls , but no more roads once the public servants start to see the money roll in.

By Jen

July 23, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

Well, in two weeks I WILL be paying for a less congested commute. I am moving into town. I haven’t sold my suburban house so I will be paying equal amounts rent and mortgage for a while.

But, my commute will go from being an hour and ten minutes, to less than ten minutes. I’ll be able to walk or ride my bike on nice days. If my car breaks down there is a Marta bus that goes from my new neighborhood right to work. Not only that, by my son’s elementary school is on the way between my new home and work. Getting a phone call telling me he’s sick and needs to be picked up won’t involve me having to say I’ll be there within 2 hours.

Unfortunately, my solution only helps me. It doesn’t address the common good. For that I say, NO to a toll express lane. Wait, I say YES, IF the toll money goes soley to the purposes of builing a light rail that not only connect our university towns (the brain train) but also our suburban centers, commercial districts, (beltway), the airport (MARTA). Do away with MARTA buses and ensure that the light rail (a combination of hish speed light rail and trolley-type rail) makes it so everyone can walk to their destination within 10 minutes.

We already have 7 lane interstates. Just making them bigger isn’t the solution.

And perhaps there can be a seperate roadway for trucks. Wait…if we have all this light rail then the current interstate will only be needed for trucks.

By Debbie

July 23, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

First, I don’t think it’s possible to add a good mass transit system after the fact. Atlanta just doesn’t have it! If you go to New York, Washington, Chicago, etc. those cities all have transit systems that the cities themselves grew up around. They are all subway/walking cities. Atlanta is not. The only way to help eliminate some of the traffic in Atlanta would be to add and widen more roads.

With that said, coming from Peachtree City - DOT just took two years to widen a stretch of road, partially in Peachtree City and partially in Coweta County, approximately 5 or 6 miles long! And that was just four-laning an already existing road with two small bridges. Could you imagine how long a project like this would take if they had Atlanta traffic in mind???

So, my answer is NO! I wouldn’t want to pay more money. I wouldn’t benefit by it. My children wouldn’t benefit by it. And probably my grandchildren wouldn’t benefit by it!!!! (Didn’t it take over 25 years to put 285 in effect?)

This is just one of those places that has traffic. Either deal with it, get creative the way you get into the city or just don’t go!

By fedup

July 23, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

The reason that there is no MARTA in the burbs is that those folks are afraid of Black people walking around in their neighborhoods. Sad.

By Bob

July 23, 2006 11:01 AM | Link to this

We paid for road improvement 10 years ago and our gas tax pays for road improvement too…Dekalb voters already voted a tax increase for road improvement..Make the roads smaller with just 2 lanes, then everybody would have to take a bus or a railway…

By Ernie Logman

July 23, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

Marta rail is worthless, and the bus service is worse. It doesnt go anywhere most people want to go and when you do take it the trains are disgutingly filthy

if you want to go to the airport, it’s great but you can’t go from Roswell to Marietta, or Roswell to Roswell.

You can’t even go direct to a Braves came on Marta rail. the idiots who designed the line opted to place it in the west end for political reasons rather then put a stop at Atlanta Fulton County stadium

I once had a job in Buckhead and when I started I decided I would be a good citizen and take Marta from the Mansell Park and ride lot. that lasted all of 3 days

The final straw was the ride home where the trains dont run frequently after 6pm and the shuttle bus to the park and ride lot only ran supposedly every thirty minutes.

Using Marta turned a one way 25 minute to home commute, door to door, into a 1 hour and 45 minute commute.

Plus the fat black bus driver insisted on keeping the driver side window wide open, thereby wiping out what limited benefit the bus ac was.

and to the idiots who suggest that people get out of their cars and ride a bike, how do you do that when you have a professional job and can’t arrive at work soaking wet from sweat?

By Jason

July 23, 2006 10:38 PM | Link to this

“Plus the fat black bus driver…”

I think I see Ernie’s true problem with MARTA.

By wsusom

July 23, 2006 11:22 PM | Link to this

Comments like Ernie’s is way a would never move to N. Fulton and let my kids attend school around people like him. What the hell does the bus drivers color have to do with anything.