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Let’s talk MegaFest
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Thursday is Day 2 of T.D. Jakes’ four-day family festival of praise, worship and music called MegaFest. Here are daily updates from AJC staff writer John Blake and updated photo galleries. But we also want to hear from the folks attending MegaFest. So join in the blogging with your own observations, key moments or opinions about MegaFest 2006.
A gospel tribute to T.D. Jakes
From John Blake, AJC staff 10:25 p.m. Thursday
The gospel singers were the stars of the show, but Thursday night belonged to Bishop T.D Jakes. The “Celebration of Unity” concert at the Georgia Dome was one of the most anticipated MegaFest events — a tribute to Jakes’ 30 years of ministry. The red carpet was literally rolled out for gospel stars such as Aretha Franklin, Fred Hammond and Donnie McClurkin. Performer after performer paid homage to Jakes, who sat near the front with his wife, Serita. The concert featured several Atlanta celebrities: Bishop Eddie Long of New Birth Missionary Church; Tyler Perry, the playwright; and local radio show host Frank Ski. Also in attendance were retired NFL star Deion Sanders, R&B singer Chante Moore and actors Will Smith and wife Jada Pinkett. Long shared a story about Jakes helping him during critical moments in his ministry. NFL greats Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith paid tribute to Jakes, both calling him “daddy.” Rev. Oral Roberts and Creflo Dollar sent in video tributes praising his ministry. “You have him this weekend, but he’s coming home with us and that’s that,” said Irvin, a member of The Potter’s House, Jakes’ church in Dallas.
65,000 registered
From John Blake, AJC staff 2:25 p.m. Thursday
“After the first day of MegaFest, more than 65,000 people registered, and we are expecting the number to increase because more are currently registering on site,” said Carolyn Miller, a spokeswoman for The Potter’s House, Bishop T.D. Jakes’ church in Dallas.
Youth is served
From John Blake, AJC staff 2:15 p.m. Thursday
Stroll through the MegaFest crowd at the Georgia World Congress Center and you may notice something striking: It’s filled with young people. Toddlers, kids, teenagers — all of them roamed through the event, chattering, flirting and playing with one another. MegaFest organizers have somehow done what many churches can’t do — make Christianity cool. Eddie McClan, 17, came to MegaFest with his Baptist church in Florence S.C.. Dressed in baggy shorts and a Tar Heel basketball jersey, he’s attended concerts, youth seminars and one event where kids were invited onstage to sing gospel music. McClan said hearing gospel music star, Kirk Franklin, talk about being a young Christian, left an impression. “He’s a casual guy,” McClan said. He keeps everything real.” McClan is a fan of Bishop T.D Jakes but for another reason. “I like his suits,” he said. “I wish I had a couple of them.”
Money matters with Ramsey
From John Blake, AJC staff 12:30 p.m. Thursday
Thousands of MefaFest attendees rose to their feet in a crowded ballroom in the Georgia World Congress Center Thursday and chanted a four-word slogan that sounded odd for a mass church meeting. “Show me the money! Show me the money” The shouts reverberated around the ballroom as financial guru, Dave Ramsey, bounced around the stage like a football player warming up for a game. Ramsey was the big player at MegaFest Thursday morning. The crowds took so long to file into the ballroom to hear him speak that he started twenty minutes late. Ramsey mixed good ole’ boy humor with some personal horror stories to drive home the point that God cares how people manage their money. He said there are 800 scriptures that deal with money but most people don’t pay attention. “The problem with my money is this idiot I shave with,” he said. “If I can get him to behave, I can be skinny and rich.” To prove his point, Ramsey said at least 60 percent of a lottery winners go broke. But he said he wasn’t going to tell people that prosperity is simply a matter of prayer. “God is not a genie that when you rub his belly,” he said, “he spits out money.”
See Jakes for free
You don’t need a ticket for every event at MegaFest. In fact, most of the events where T.D. Jakes is preaching are free and open to the public. It’s just that ticket holders get preferred seating. Wednesday night’s general service was open to the public, as is the final event at 1 p.m. Saturday at the Georgia Dome.
“Help my unbelief”
From John Blake, AJC staff 9:05 p.m. Wednesday
The opening day of MegaFest 2006 ended Wednesday night with Bishop T.D Jakes preaching on one of the most famous passages from the Gospel of Mark. A father comes to Jesus and says if you can, you can heal my son. Bible students know the rest of the story. Jesus says everything is possible to him who believes and the man replies: “Lord, I believe; Help my unbelief.” Jakes entitled his sermon, “Confessions of a Conflicted Soul.” So many issues come down to belief, he said. “We pray about the root of an issue rather than dealing with the root of an issue.” Facing a crowd of thousands at the Georgia Dome, Jakes told them that Jesus answered the father’s plea. “If one person can cry out and attract the attention of a God who will help, what will happen if 70,000 people cry out,” he said. The crowd at the Georgia Dome cried out.
Loving Jakes
From John Blake, AJC staff 8:00 p.m. Wednesday
“Get your praise on!” The crowd erupted at the Georgia Dome Wednesday night when the m.c. kicked off the evening session with that exhortation. People bolted up from their seats and raised their hands. One elderly man with a shaved head and a baby-blue suit near the stage let loose with a duck-walk. The applause thundered through the dome, which was about half-full. One of the best moments came when Bishop T.D. Jakes’ wife, Serita, came on stage in a lipstick-red dress and delighted the crowd with four words. After talking about the 30 years she spent with Jakes in ministry — during times when they couldn’t afford to pay their light bill and he was laid off — she said, “I do appreciate every step I’ve taken with him.” Then the women in the dome roared when she declared with hearty emphasis: “I love that man.”
The cost of MegaFest
From John Blake, AJC staff 4:30 p.m. Wednesday
“The wages of sin,” the Apostle Paul wrote, “is death.” But what does it cost to attend MegaFest? According to some bloggers, MegaFest costs too much. Bishop T.D. Jakes has to be carting wheelbarrows of money away from the event, some say. MegaFest organizers tell a different story. Roland Hairston, CEO of The Potter’s House in Dallas, Texas, Jakes’ home church, said it costs Jakes at least $10 million to stage MegaFest. Organizers also had to fly in 1,200 volunteers (there are 2,000 altogether) from the Potter’s House and put them up in hotels and give them per diems, he said. Haiston said the $40 people pay to attend MegaFest is a bargain. “This is not a money-making event for the ministry, not even close,” Hairston said. “What it does allow us to do is deliver a message.”
Merchandising
Bishop T.D Jakes likes to say he’s not just a preacher, he’s a businessman. And like any savvy businessman, Jakes had his MegaFest product table set up in the Georgia World Congress Center at the event’s opening. The table, as long as a baseball bleacher, was manned by a staff of eager volunteers - and a security guard. So what’s on sale? There was a MegaFest yo-yo, keychain, baseball cap, baseball jersey, tote bag and jogging suit. There were Jakes’ books, CDs, tapes and a special t-shirt with Jakes on the cover commemorating his 30-year anniversary a pastor. The message in it all? Many, perhaps. But at the very least one can say that Jakes isn’t just a preacher and a businessman. He’s a brand.
The personal side of Jakes
From John Blake, AJC staff 3:30 p.m. Wednesday
Bishop T.D. Jakes opened MegaFest Wednesday by giving the audience a glimpse of his private side. He brought four of his children to the stage outside the Georgia World Congress Center and introduced them to an audience of teenagers. “I’m a grandpa now,” Jakes said. “Everybody say, “Pa, Pa.” His children bantered with the crowd with the polish and ease of their father. Then Jakes handed the microphone to his grandson, Malachi, a toddler who squirmed shyly and clung to his big grandfather’s leg for protection. Malachi then found his preaching voice. “Welcome, welcome to Mega…” Then he gave up because he couldn’t say the word, Megafest. Smiling, Jakes took the microphone from Malachi as the crowd cooed. For once, Jakes was upstaged.
International appeal
From John Blake, AJC staff 1:25 p.m. Wednesday
Most people know that Bishop T.D. Jakes has crossover appeal. He also has cross-nation appeal. MegaFest is an international event drawing people from around the globe. MegaFest officials typically trumpet Jakes’ global reach, but his appeal doesn’t really hit home until a festival official called up a computer program that listed how many visitors came from the 55 countries represented this year. Some numbers: One person came from Afghanistan. Three from Hong Kong. Eight from Saudi Arabia. One from Rwanda and seven from Switzerland. Last year, MegaFest was broadcast in 600 million households worldwide, said Derrick Williams, the conference manager for Megafest. “We had a group of folks who chartered a plane from Australia and came here,” Williams said. “It’s a blessing that we can reach around the world.”
Report from the opening event
From John Blake, AJC staff
Bishop T.D Jakes walked before a sweating crowd of teenagers waving a sea of fans in 90 degree-temperatures and held up a microphone. “When you scream, it will officially happen,”Jakes said. The crowd screamed, and Jakes shouted “Now.” As a stream of multicolored balloons floated to the sky outside the Georgia World Congress Center in downtown Atlanta on Wednesday, Jakes shouted: “MegaFest is officially open. Make some noise now.” Heat, not noise was the story of MegaFest’s opening ceremony, held outside in the midday sun. The crowd was filled with people towels draped around their shoulders, beads of sweat peppered their faces. One teenage girl fainted from the heat in front of the stage while Jakes talked. Christian rapper Canton Jones, though, who helped open the four-day event, warned the crowd that it could be worse. “Don’t worry about how hot it is,” he said from the stage. “It’s always hot in church. And it’s hotter in Hell.”



Comments
By time for the truth
July 19, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this
This event will be unbelievably nauseating, all that moronic smug religious drivel for four mindless days of simpleton brainwashed “witnessing”.
Such cringemaking vileness almost makes you want to become a Satanist!! Though in fairness it certainly seems that Satanists are as equally unhinged, given Satanic eschatology is effectively ‘stolen’ from the inane reworked paganism christians lamely, dogmatically and uncritically assert as “being the truth”!!
By ELLE
July 19, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this
Time for Truth: You clearly need JESUS! With the throngs of people there… they will GLADLY humble themselves to pray for YOU.
In case you can’t tell… you seem MISERABLE. It likely shows in ALL areas of your life.
I pray that God will soften your hardened heart.
By ELLE
July 19, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this
Time for Truth: You clearly need JESUS! With the throngs of people there… they will GLADLY humble themselves to pray for YOU.
In case you can’t tell… you seem MISERABLE. It likely shows in ALL areas of your life.
I pray that God will soften your hardened heart.
By artie
July 19, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this
The ONLY financial enlightening event going on at this get-together is the lining of T.D. Jake’s pockets!!!!
By What's the fuss
July 19, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
Why such negative comments? Why can’t it be Christians coming together to have a good time. Let the people at MegaFest do their thing. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I say if it isn’t affecting you leave Jakes and his crew alone and let them have a good time!!!
By DMAC
July 19, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this
With all the big words, you still come off as pompous! I believe in the right to voice your opinion, but sometimes you have to use a little tact! Ignorance is not bliss, believe it or not. You can believe whatever you want, but don’t degrade someone for believing in something contrary to yours. You have you’re belief system and that’s your porogative, but let others have there own. Buy a coke and a smile.. Sounds like you need a laxative..
By DMAC
July 19, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this
Artie, again another hater.. Give it up man.. Let these people assemble how they choose. You are fussing about lining his pockets when in actuality they are boosting the ecomony her, for the next 4 days.. have a coke and a smile.
By Pat in Milwaukee
July 19, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this
I’m a minister of the gospel and during these end-times, its essential that we as a people be empowered spiritually and financially. Finances spread the gospel and increase the kingdom. Satan is mad, and can’t do a thing about it! Lift up Jesus for the total man!
By Jada
July 19, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this
Hear we go again! I really hope God shows up and folks don’t show out. It seems to be a show whenever these cultified folks get together. Along with that, I hope Marta treats the saints a lot better then they treat their everyday riders. They’ve been late everyday, maybe God can shed some light on this hideous situation.
Nevertheless Welcome to Atlanta!
By Hotlanta
July 19, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this
I call it MegaMess. I remember when it first came to the ATL and we were on the train the people were rude telling us to hurry up get off the train so they can go to the Dome. It’s a shame you gotta pay for the events and then they wanna take up additional offerings inside of the services. Glad the God that I serve tells me that I don’t have to pray for his services nor to be in his presence.
By artie
July 19, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this
DMAC…no hater here, just a realist. It saddens me that people have to rely on other individuals to achieve spiritual peace.
By DHD
July 19, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this
By time for the truth:
I don’t believe you are forced to go, so don’t worry about it.
And guess what….Jesus loves you too.
By Zyai
July 19, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this
Unfortunately, these events are a mega mess! Temporary spirtuality and sanctimonious religiosity. Concious ignorance is flourishing in the ‘church’. Peace.
By Hotlanta
July 19, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this
I am sick if the word CHRISTIAN being overuses. We have Christian rappers, bakers, comedians and Christian clothing line. (whatver that is). Pretty soon we are gonna have Christian strippers. When I heard a Christian song know I don’t know whether to stomp my feet or drop it like it is hot.
By ATL PEACH
July 19, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this
I don’t have a problem with the whole mega fest thing I’m a child of God and I love and believe in him. If the Bishop is not being real one good thing about GOD is that he knows all. I do have a question since Bishop wants to see blacks have something and suceed and being that he’s a multi-millionaire why isn’t this affair free? He’s doing the will of God and he certainally know they’ll be trying to see him all three nights this should be a freebee from him to God’s people.
By Mac
July 19, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this
On the one hand it’s so sad to see the things happening that were told in the verses listed below. On the other hand, it’s just another reminder that the word of God is true. Jakes is enticing people by their fleshly desires.
2 Timothy 4:3-4 states, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but {wanting} to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.”
2 Peter 2:18-19 “For speaking out arrogant {words} of vanity they entice by fleshly desires, by sensuality, those who barely escape from the ones who live in error, promising them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by what a man is overcome, by this he is enslaved.”
By katie
July 19, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this
Mega Fest—what a joke. So many of these people are going there and praying then leaving and breaking into cars, using drugs and hiding behind ‘the name of Jesus’. Please… All the preachers do is to collect money and live in mansions. Their scam is to collect as much money from people as possible, that’s it. “Jesus saves,” who does Jesus save?? No one, people save them selves. “God will punish you,” who has god punished—no one. People need to get over this religion thing and think for them selves. After all, doesn’t god help those who help themselves?? Hmm, interesting quote there, I think I’ve got a point.
By D
July 19, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this
For those who are complaining about the money people spend on the Megafest explain to me why it is of your concern. Is it hurting you in any kind of way that people want to come to Atlanta to congregate with other like beings to get the word of the Lord. Would you rather them spend their money on illegal activities (i.e guns, drugs, prostitutes)? If you actually think about it, how do you think your church, for those that attend, operate each day. Yes your church operates with a tremendous amount of help from the Lord, but in the same token the worshippers help as well when they give their tithes, offerings, & donations. Also if you think about it the same city that you nay sayers live in is benefitting financially as well from this event. Basically let any & everybody who chooses to attend Megafest enjoy thmesleves & you stay away from downtown. If you continue to have an issue with it then write your congressman, I’m sure he/she wants to here from a person such as yourself (lonely & miserable). Obviously you live by the saying “misery loves company”…..NOT!!!!!
By Sabrina
July 19, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this
Megafest is back!!! Yeah!!! Praise God, even though i am unable to attend. I thank God for those who will be inspired to lead better lives as they share and feed from thier spiritual brothers and sisters. God is happy and so am i. Don’t hate this event, there will come a time when you wish you had gone to one of these sessions. I am just thanking God for this. Alot of lives will be changed as a result. Hallelujah!!!!! Thank You Jesus!!!
By D
July 19, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this
Hotlanta you’re funny saying “When I heard a Christian song know I don’t know whether to stomp my feet or drop it like it is hot.” LOL. Perhaps you should be one of the comedians at the Megafest.I’m still laughing at that last comment. We needed a bit of humor in this blog.
By SW
July 19, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this
Even though this is not my thing, I may not want to go but why does someone always have to wait with baited breath to hate on each and every thing? If he is lining his pockets, and I personally don’t if he is, then the God he is preaching to will deal with him. Let the people enjoy themselves and have a good time. Relax, enjoy your day.
By DMAC
July 19, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this
Artie,
I can agree with you there. You have to know him for yourself. But you have to be in the fellowship of the saints. I am not sure if God was talking about in the aspect. But we have to respect what is being done. You have to encourage one another. But you have to be careful with this also. We are to seek the lost sheep, not the ones already in the camp. It does no good.
By Vee
July 19, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this
You know it is so funny how people can pass judgement on something that they have no experience with!!!! If all the attendees need this spiritual motivation and don’t mind paying to go to these events, what’s the problem? Do you moan and groan when we have to deal with all of the other conventions that this city plays host to? Let these people gather and get the spiritual enlightment that they probably need in there lifes right now! Traffic will still be ridiculous like it always is when they leave. Have a blessed day!
By HeadShaker
July 19, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this
This is a prime example of what Jesus called “money changers”. Not only is he charging a ridiculous amount for spiritual uplifting that should be free, but then has the nerve to actually make it non-refundable and non-transferable in an attempt to get more people to pay for it. Jakes is a pimp. He’s asking women to pay for advice that is supposed to be free. If he was really concerned with saving people he would just do it, no charge.
Go ahead and make excuses for him.
By Jada
July 19, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this
Slow down Sabrina you are way to excited about this event! Why would someone be so eager to attend this event someday. If your a believer in him, your life should already be changed. I love the contradiction of the saints! things that make you go hum! No one is hating, the truth is light and once you guys see the light, you’ll know the truth aint’ being told.
God Bless yaw anyway!
By DMAC
July 19, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this
D,
It’s more to it then that. I think the theatrics have taken this further than it actually has to be. People are going to complain because you are looking at close to 3 to 400k people coming into the city. It’s almost impossible to complain, because of how the economy is being boosted. But we do know Money is the ROOT of ALL! It can be good and Evil.
People of color really have to be careful because we are such emotional beings. When something or someone is hot we flock to it. Every wind of Doctrine is not true! You should be able to be fed in your local church with out all of this. I welcome all who are coming, because their belief system is great. Allow them to seek and serve as they please. But lets use wisdom here people..
By HeadShaker
July 19, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this
Its not hating because he’s collecting money. Biblically charging to share the word of God is wrong. And this blog is about commenting, not being a sheep and nodding in agreement because you’re scared of voicing a dissenting remark. For every comment made about Jakes being wrong for the way he goes about things, there’s not one decent defense of him. And he’s not commendable cause he helps black people. A true “shepherd” guards the whole flock, not those who’s wool is a particular color. While I may understand that black people may require additional “upliftment” and and I recognize that some of his stuff may help a few people, I ultimately have to question things that he says and writes about because even if a snake says something decent, its still coming from a snake.
By Sabrina
July 19, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this
LOL…You guys are funny….LOL!!! All i know is that God is GOOD!!!! Through this event this weekend, some teenager will find hope and return home, some cancer patient will get healed, Some marriage on the brink of divorce will be restored, some men and women will find hope and self worth, some young man will give up on drugs, even some of you sitting at home will experience unmerited favor, just because of the power of God in this city this weekend. Like DMAC said Have a coke and smile (just one though)!!!!! Hallelujah!!!
By Hotlanta
July 19, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this
Jada you are crazy telling Sabrina to slow her roll. I know that it costs to put on such an event. Nothing is free. You gotta pay the dome for space, security, people who are coming etc, etc. To ask for an additional offering after people have paid for an event just blows my mind. By the time Juanita Bynum finish screaming and hollering they need to issue earplugs. Why are the Christians on the board mad. They talk about fornacaters all day but the minute you say anything about them they get p** as if you ain’t supposed to say nothing about them, PERIOD. They can’t have it both ways.
By DMAC
July 19, 2006 12:57 PM | Link to this
Headshaker,
Thats a little extreme.. People are going to do what they want. If they want to pay, let them. There are things in church, I don’t believe in, but because I don’t believe in it, that does not mean, I am going to knock it. That’s the thing about being adults, we can make our own choices. Well some of us can..
By Jeff
July 19, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this
It is sad that this gifted minister would have a meeting this large and gear it toward christians of color. Look at the lineup, the comics & singers to see what I mean.
As far as “The prosperity gospel”, it is a pryamid scheme where only those at the top bring in the money. You give to them, then you have to wait on God to get yours.
If it really worked, they would give away all their wealth to get more…. what a sham!
By DMAC
July 19, 2006 01:04 PM | Link to this
Headshaker,
I look at it as give and take. I can’t hate on Jakes for what he is doing. I just choose not to go. Again there are choices we get to make. But please don’t spew stuff about this man, when you know nothing about him. Unless you have personal relationship with him, you really can’t call him anything. Take your burdens to the Lord and leave them there. It comes off as jelousy more than anything. And I believe that is not what you are trying to portray..
By Chassydi Butts
July 19, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this
IGNORANCE: is the state of not knowing. Ignorance occurs when those who can benefit from knowledge are unwilling or unable to find or assimilate the knowledge. The flip side of ignorance is having knowledge and not having any way of sharing that knowledge
WITH that being said, there are some of you commenting simply because you are ignorant. Your opinions are not appreciated simply because there are no facts to back your thoughts. It has been reported that megafest has brought in millions of dollars for the city of Atlanta. I’m all for an economic boost. I think Megafest is just 1 of the many ways of expressions for individuals who choose to worship and be taught the word of GOD. So, please dont critize those who choose to attend…simply have patience with the many visitors who will be in town this weekend, and pray that everything will go smoothly this weekend! Have a wonderful and blessed weekend!
By Hotlanta
July 19, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this
So Sabrina are you saying after this weekend things won’t happen because MegaFest will be gone. I thought these things happen everyday not just one weekend a year. I didn’t know that God does these things for MegaFest only and take time off the rest of the year. What the hell is unmerited favor as if we didn’t go to MegaFest, we won’t be blessed. Honey I was blessed the day that I was conceived and Jakes/Megafest wasn’t anywhere around. I will continue to be blessed without the benefit of Megafest.
By Whatever
July 19, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this
Megafest is a scam, PERIOD. And after the event is said and done, all of the same problems will exist in our communities. We will still be thuggin, slick talkin’ and underachieving.. and being BROKE; even lighter in our pockets after dumping it into TOP DOLLAR JAKES’S pockets.
By know what's right
July 19, 2006 01:14 PM | Link to this
I agree with some of the above comments. People need to seek God for themselves and not be to dependant on one man. Some events such as this has become big business. Thats how these guys become Mega rich. You can prosper yourself thru knowledge and effort. Don’t put to much into the hype.
By Amara
July 19, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this
First of all, the majority of Megafest events ARE FREE. I have attended more than once, and paid last year, but the previous years I did not pay.
Second, the Georgia Dome IS NOT FREE, regardless of the reasoning for the event you’re holding. Neither are the airline tickets they have to pay for all of the speakers, the ground transportation or hotels for the speakers, etc. etc. All of that costs money. If you don’t like the fact that they charge, just go to the free stuff or don’t go at all.
People are blasting Megafest more than the gay pride festivities that were held a few weeks ago. What’s this world coming to?
By Jeff
July 19, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this
It is true events aren’t free, but if you pay an entrance fee, there should be no offering during the services. I believe he has both.
Billy graham takes up an offering, but the crusades are free to attend.
It should be one way or the other. That would be fair.
By Whatever
July 19, 2006 01:25 PM | Link to this
FREE.. until you want to hear one of the big time speakers or participate in the more “spiritually stimulating” events. It is what it is. And if it will make you feel any better, gay pride festivities suck as well (no pun intended) and have no real purpose.
The spiritual feeding I receive from my minister in my congregation for free is sufficient and inspiring enough.
By Jeff
July 19, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this
“People are blasting Megafest more than the gay pride festivities that were held a few weeks ago.”That is because christians should be held to a higher ethical standard than the ‘world’.
“The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil” ….. 1 Timothy 6:10
By TR
July 19, 2006 01:30 PM | Link to this
It’s really simple. If you are not a believer in Christianity, then don’t go. If you reject the message of TD Jakes, then don’t go. If you think an organization can put on an event of that magnitude without charging some kind of money, get a brain. And for all of you zealots who think ministers do not have a right to request money for the work they do, get a Bible.
By tonya
July 19, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this
AJC…Would you even think of Blogging Billy Graham Crusade, if it comes to Atlanta No.. only because he is a white minister
By ron
July 19, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this
Even though I am a Christian I have come to one conclusion about these new preachers. Jesus is the only product you can market and not pay a copyright fee, have to buy a product, not have to share royalties and easily become a millionaire. He showed up at our church in Greenville, SC and behind the church was a white stretch limo waiting for him the entire time. Guess he was too good for someone at the church to give him a ride back to the Hilton downtown Greenville.
By Hotlanta
July 19, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this
Billy ain’t poor, he is smart. He lives a low-key lifestyle. These black ministers are living like rock stars.
By Shamolabootza
July 19, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this
Hey TR. Don’t think the argument is about the money it takes to put on such an event as much as it is about the event being put on specifically to make money and enrich the ghettofab black clergy in america. Let’s just be real about it. You can’t PAY black folks to go on a retreat with the little local church or attend a Christian convention. But get GHETTOFAB with it and slap the dapper rich preacher on the label WITH THE WORD MEGA and we are ALL OVER IT.
By ron
July 19, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this
And I forgot to add, when he was at our church in Greenville he started out his sermon hawking his various books and tapes, then a love offering was collected which totaled nearly $10,000. Not bad for an hour of speaking. Ours is a 9,000 member church and before the love offering was taken we were told we were sewing into his annointing.
By Pauline
July 19, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this
I’d say Jesus would sooner show up on True Gritz than attend MegaScam.
www.truegritz.com
By monique
July 19, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this
I agree Tonya.
There are an awful lot of opinionated comments coming from people who are not actually going to attend the event. It’s interesting that you have such an informed viewpoint, from something you’ve never seen…..
By Amara
July 19, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this
We as Christians don’t say the bible is fake because it costs money. Why Megafest?
And you’re wrong, “Whatever,” the “big time speakers” don’t all cost to see. As I said, I’ve been to Megafest. I didn’t have to pay to hear T.D. Jakes or any of the other speakers I saw/heard.
Why is it that people who clearly haven’t been have so much to say?
By Amara
July 19, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this
Ron - the bible is copyrighted.
By Tony
July 19, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this
Not to worry, if all of this prosperity gospel is just a scam, you wont have to wait for Gods wrath. The I.R.S will take care of the problem, just ask Jim Baker,the former head of the Southern Baptist convention and countless other pimps, I mean preachers.
By JIMMY
July 19, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this
T.D. JAKES SAID HE WOULD NOT COME BACK TO ATLANTA UNLESS HE WAS GUARANTEED A MILLION DOLLARS AND ALL EXPENSES PAID.I GUESS HE GOT HIS MONEY.IF HE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH BLACK MALES IN ATLANTA WE WILL SAVE THAT MUCH A MONTH IN PRISON COSTS FOR KEEPING THEM LOCKED UP.
By Ricky
July 19, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this
Wow. Although I am glad there is a medium for individuals to share their opinions, we must be very careful in critizing leaders in the Christian church. Question and be objective? Yes. Critize and comdemn? No. That is God’s responsibility. IF you don’t like the ministry of Jakes, Morton, Bryant and others that will be ministering at MegaFest this week, then don’t go.
But for those of you who will be in attendance with me, please have a discerning spirit. But don’t down an event that bridges denominational gaps and racial and cultural lines. There are so many speakers, singers, and professionals that will be ministering this weekend and I know most are definitely on a mission from the Lord (I know quite a few personally).
Just relax and have fun. The Psalmist said “how good and pleasant it is for brothers to dwell together in unity”. Much love.
By Tiff
July 19, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this
Megafest is a disgrace and so is Jakes and all of the other “Mega Churches”. Why?…whenever Christianity is being defined as a “Profession” I want nothing to do with it. Also, whenever a preacher drives a Rolls and calls himself preaching and begging the poor for donations….”Lord, have mercy on their souls”.
By Pamela Gaines
July 19, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this
To those who are speaking derogatory about MegaFest and Bishop, I want to tell you that Jesus Loves You and so do I!!!
It is apparent that there are many of you who have never attended one of the many conferences that Bishop has brought to ATL be it MegaFest, Woman Thou Art Loose or Manpower since 1996. If you had you would know why people come back and you would have had a encounter with the Holy Spirit, come into the knowledge and fullness of Christ and you would return again and again.
To those that are quoting scriptures you need to get a clear understanding of the correct interpretation of the scripture and whom Christ was speaking to at the time the scripture was written.
In regards to the Bishop lining his pocket. He never touches the money and when Megafest ends there is debt. You apparently do not understand the magnitude of the cost of such a event..facilities, security, speakers, travel/volunteers etc.. There is a fee to those who plan to attend the day workshops and desire preferred seating. There is also a seat for those of you who have never attended and anyone else free/no charge at the 7pm session. Show up and experience the presence of the Holy Spirit, it is life changing and you’ll come back for me I guarantee you.
I would venture to say that many of the bloggers who are speaking negatively have not had an encounter with the Holy Spirit because if you had you would be careful about whom you put yuor mouth on…rather it be a man or woman of God. The word of God says “touch not my anointed one and do my prophet no harm” Consider that for a moment.
I guarantee you that if you attend one of the evening sessions you will have a life changing experience through the word and the Holy Spirit of God via the speakers that God has choosen for this occasion.
Remeber Jesus Loves You and So Do I!!!!!
Elder PG
By Neal
July 19, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this
It is so evident that not only is christianity under attack, but RACISM is still running rampid in the equal country called The United States! From reading some of the blogs, it’s apparent that Satan has many followers. May God continue to bless the ignorant!
By Tiff
July 19, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this
Plus, when the guy in the Stone Mountain…the one that wears all of the tight muscle shirts, got audited by the IRS, he stated in the AJC, that if he helped everyone in need in church, there wouldn’t be enough to keep the church alive…..How in the world can you pay for a 300,000 house in 3 years and you have people in your congregation on welfare and just suffering from plain ole poverty?? But, you can stand up in the pulpit and shout”Just hold on (while I live very, very comfortably) and God is going to see you thur”…I’ll see you next Sunday, while I fly away in my private Jet. PLEASE, give me a break!!!!!!!!!
By sheila
July 19, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this
This is all out hypocrisy. When I heard that they sell liquor at this thing I knew right then it was a crock. It just goes to show people can be misled real easily. You people need to stop playing with God. Read your bibles and stop trusting man who does not teach the true word.
By Milo
July 19, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this
Thats It. The bible thumpers come to town and the city pays for there extra police and clean up. And the people will not get hasseled. Gay Pride comes to town (we bring more money to the city then any other group) and we have to pay for the services we use. Police, Fire, Clean up……. Go figure……..
By Tiff
July 19, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this
I think black people are the only race that suffers thru the need of of “leader” to show them the way. We flock to church every chance we get….not to praise and celebrate God together, but to find direction in life…and look at the person sitting next to you and wonder why is she in church with her head nappy like that or why is she wearing those old scuffed up shoes…..and then start clapping and shouting….these are things I have actually heard in a so called “Mega Church:.
By Moses
July 19, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this
All megafest does is make clog up the streets with traffic and hurt business for good places to eat, while the line is out the door for pizza hut and hardees (gross, poor people food.) Why can’t they have it somewhere else where it won’t bother anyone. Hopefully it will go away like freaknic. Can’t we learn anything from those types of festivals.
By shame
July 19, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this
Most of you people on this blog really need Jesus……..go back to work….or is complaining your job…..
By sheila
July 19, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this
What kills me about these self-righteous folks on here is how they want to try and demand respect but they don’t respect anybody else. I knew TD Jakes was a snake when I saw him hugged up with G. Bush. And I dare anyone to come at me about respect Christian ministers when this snake (TD Jake) disrespects others.
By Everlast
July 19, 2006 02:58 PM | Link to this
Shame -
Apparently you are finding time to post a comment on this blog…..hummmm, go figure.
By JB
July 19, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this
HI Jada, You have a serious problem GIRL!!! Telling someone to slow down because their faith is strong in the LORD. Why don’t you go back into your hole and come out after the Mega Fest is over. You are DANGEROUS!!!
By Gerald
July 19, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this
Tony (and all others):
You are so misinformed. First of all, Jim BAKKER was a non - denominational evangelical, NOT a Southern Baptist. Second of all, Jim BAKKER was EXONERATED OF ALL CHARGES ON APPEAL. Funny how the media never covered his EXONERATION as much as they did his WRONGFUL CONVICTION. As a matter of fact, Jim Bakker is back preaching (and yes, including back on TV) and runs a group home for orphans and foster kids in Florida.
As far as T. D. Jakes goes, he has been thoroughly investigated by people who would love to bring him down for years, going way back to 1995 when he was still in West Virginia. The results of over a decade of digging? Nothing illegal, and not even anything improper or embarrassing. Jakes’ income does not come from church tithes and offerings, but from his books and CDs.
The only reason why T. D. Jakes and people like that get bashed is because everyone thinks that preachers should be poor. Some of that is attributed to the vow of poverty that Catholics take (which does not apply to Jakes as he is not Catholic) but the rest just is due to hostility to Christianity. So long as Christians stay in their little corner and are meek and inoffensive to everybody, the “haters” are willing to (mostly) pretend that they do not exist. But when a preacher attains the wealth, fame, and influence that we lavish on, say, SWIMSUIT MODELS, then THAT is when people who simply dislike Christianity and Christians come out of the woodwork, using the wealth issue as a cover for their real agenda.
All you folks who claim “the gospel should be free”: funny I do not see you lambasting Emory University’s theology school for charging $30,000 a year. Hmmm … And in the case of Jakes, you can attend his service at the Potter’s house free of charge. You can also watch his weekly show on BET or either of his two shows that are on several times each day on TBN, Daystar, The Word Network, and the other religious broadcasting networks for free. Don’t have cable? You can go to any public library and watch his shows on those networks over the Internet. Of course, none of you have spent 10 seconds in The Potter’s House, nor have you watched any of his TV broadcasts. Of course, I cannot expect people who dislike Christians and Christianity to do so.
And for all of you who quote this “For the love of money is the root of all evil” scripture to no end, how about this one: “If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor” (Matthew 19:21). Now that verse wasn’t directed at preachers, but lay people! How many of you bashers of Jakes and all of the other financially successful preachers are obeying that one? Not a single one, because people who hold Christians and Christianity in contempt do not follow the Bible; they merely point out the supposed failings of other Christians in their own eyes. Folks like you should keep Matthew 7:2-5 and take the log out of your own eyes before you judge the speck in any other Christian’s.
By Craig
July 19, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this
There are so many views expressed here who’s to say who is right and who is wrong. The one thing that I want to share with the board here is that the Bible clearly states “seek first the kingdom and everything else will be added”. I have seen how so many people flock to these type of events not so much for seeking the kingdom of God, but because they are caught up in how smooth T.D. Jakes can paint a picture of prosperity with his words. So many preachers are preaching about wealth that they are adding to the anxiety of this world. Even Paul a Disciple of Jesus said he considered it a gain to give up wealth and inherit true knowledge instead. Paul knew that by seeking the kingdom of God first God would see to all his needs. In other words Paul knew God would not forsake his needs, even while he was in prison. Read the book of Phillipians. T.D. Jakes from my opinion should give freely, his advise, his sermoms, his concerts to these people that are searching, if he believes in his God to provide for him. Face it he is already MEGA-RICH. Most of all preach the truth about what God really requires of us, because God cant do anything with our riches and we surely can’t buy our salvation.
By Mary
July 19, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this
You are crazy Moses….my mom just opened up her 2nd Pizza Hut franchise……and it’s NOT POOR PEOPLE FOOD….hahahah. That comment really makes me laugh….
By JB
July 19, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this
HI Jada, You have a serious problem GIRL!!! Telling someone to slow down because their faith is strong in the LORD. Why don’t you go back into your hole and come out after the Mega Fest is over. You are DANGEROUS!!!
By Whatever
July 19, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this
One thing I do see is those typical BIBLE THUMPERS who always try to toss around Scripture, as if the rest of us doesn’t know or haven’t read them. I will proudly state that I am a Christian, and the knowledge I have of the Word let’s me know that that is not intended to be sold for profit, or sold at all for that matter. Let’s not forget that Jesus ran the money changers from the temple, and a great many scriptures speak against the very thing that TOP DOLLAR and the rest of these mega preachers (black and white) engage in. Let’s just be honest for a change.
But I do understand why the holier-than-thou “Christian” would defend so hardly brother Jakes and his ilke. Speak negatively to any prostitute about her pimp and they she show you the same. No matter how much he slaps her around, she still believes he loves her and has her best interest at heart. It is the pimp/”ho” mentality in play. No matter how you spin it, it is what it is.
And by the way, we don’t attend because we know what it’s really all about.
By FD
July 19, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this
Why is it that every year we have to hear the same, tired “complaints” about MegaFest? Just let the people come and enjoy themselves in the Lord. What is so wrong with a family taking vacation to fellowship with other people of God?
By Woodgrane
July 19, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this
I don’t have a problem with Megafest. My only request is that yall save me a seat on Marta. After a long day at the office, all I want to do is get back to da crib. Yall be slowin me down and makin the train feel like a sauna. God is good.
www.myspace.com/woodgrane
By Tiff
July 19, 2006 03:10 PM | Link to this
FD — Nothing is wrong with that….but when you have people like Yolanda Adams that’s been married twice, on the schedule….it’s not too much you can tell me about the Lord when apparently you can’t get your own life together.
By Tiff
July 19, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this
Good point Craig
By JB
July 19, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this
Shame, Shame on you. You really do need to get a life. We are going to enjoy TD Jakes and Megafest this year like we always do because our lives are filled with Christ and the love that he gives us to love people like you no matter what you say or do.
Loving you in Christ Shame.
By Whatever
July 19, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this
Here’s an idea.. How about channelling all that energy and funds to bring about the result of our young men discontinuing thuggin’ and pulling up their pants for a change, aspiring to be more than a rapper or hustler and taking some responsibility for a change??? I guess Megafest hasn’t done much afterall in the years it’s been here. I ask…is there anyone out here that can tell us what has this event positively yielded in the past years other than profits for the planners and such?
By msteven
July 19, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this
This JUST IN! For all of you haters of Bishop Greedy Jakes, duhh, I mean Bishop T.D.Jakes stop hating on the man because he can suck folks wallets dry. I aint hating on him. he has some good points. Follow him. No. I follow No Mortal Man or Woman. But I do agree. If he is a millionare, shouldnt this all be free. I remember a reverend by the name of IKE. A co-worker of mine just shot me down saying he is nothing like IKE. Hmmm. lets see. both are wealthy, both wear expensive designer suits, both have/had jets, both live in mansions. Lets see..oh yeah neither is living from paycheck to paycheck like his followers. Both have Fat bank accounts. Neither give freebees. Yet both fail to realize there should be no cover charge to preach the word of God. Did Jesus charge to see him when he went was giving his sermons? and if you couldnt make the cover charge were you turned away from the sermon? Did jesus live in the best hut in the village? long shining golden robes(the best in fabric of the day). When his sermons were finish did a chariot driven by horses( not a donkey like jesus rode, horses were considered a luxury donkeys and mules were for poorier folks). I bet T.D. got some of the best food money can buy in his fridge at home. Jesus of course didnt even have a fridge(there were none)but i doubt he had a cabinent stocked with the best foods of the day. I know TD is not Jesus and is just spreading The Word. But from the way it looks..he (the bishop) is have one Upscale Jolly of a time while he is doing it..and getting Paid! You go Greedy Jakes! oops! I did it again!(Blast you! Britney Spears! you got me stuck on your song(Immediately pulls out a Britney Spears Wig and a Fake Snake wrapped around my neck doing my best impersonation of the Pop lip-snic Princess bellie dancing and a few stolen Janet Jackson moves! )I meant to say TD Jakes!
By Jeff
July 19, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this
Have you ever seen…..
1) A pastor get “called by God” to a smaller or poorer church?
2) TV preachers who lived modest lives, drove modest cars or lived in modest homes?
4) TV preachers who wore “off the rack” suits?
5) Prosperity get anyone but the preacher rich?
By Proph. G.
July 19, 2006 03:22 PM | Link to this
It saddens me greatly when events like these come into town proposing to “bless” those who attend and then people have to pay registrations fees, buy CDs , paraphrenalia, and then are baggered into paying enormous offerings. I would like to see these wealthy preachers sponsor these events FOR FREE [no registration, no offering, no money collected at all] and truly exhibit the power, love and Spirit of God among the people. There should be soul winning, ministering, and the performing of miracles. If they cannot do these things, then believe me, we are NOT dealing with TRUE five-fold leadership in the Kingdom of God, rather “sanctified hustlers” pimping the people and prostituting the Gospel! What about the people who have no money? Are they excluded from being “blessed”? Are they not “worthy” to receive as those who have the money? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’ve NEVER seen in the Bible [Old or New Testament] where God/Jesus required an offering before He performed a miracle! His only requirement was that whoever was involved BELIEVED, then if the person/persons believed, then they could participate in the miracle because of their faith. People need miracles performed in their lives to believe God for the IMPOSSIBLE, spiritually and naturally! Time out for “church pimping”!
By Jeff
July 19, 2006 03:25 PM | Link to this
Why should a christian…Pay to hear from God?
By Nadine
July 19, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this
I attended “Woman Thou Art Loose” the second year it was in Atlanta. I had a nice time, however, I didn’t agree with at the beginning of the service, TD Jakes was asking people to bring down $1000.00. Of Course I didn’t get out of my seat, at the end of the service they asked for an offering with a minimum of $5.00. I often receive mailings from his ministry asking for money and selling his books. At one time, I purchased a lot of his books, but have stopped due to the begging of money. I heard the church services at 7pm are free, however the other events are a charge. I choose not to attend Mega fest, but I am not downgrading it in any way. I had my experience with TD Jakes conferences and choose not to go back due to the constant begging of money. I will continue to watch him on TV when I am able to view his program.
By TD Jakes
July 19, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this
Come to Megafest!! Take public transit while I fly there in my solid gold helicopter. Then you all can get stuck in traffic why I am eating lobster you bought for me by buying all my junk. - March sheep, march!
By Megafestisforsinners
July 19, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this
Time for the truth,
And all the people on this blog saying that the preachers and all the people that come to these events are nothing but sinners. I beg to put before you, people who don’t sin don’t need these events, they feel they are already going to heaven. Megafest is for those people seeking God and those wanting to get closer to him. People who have sinned, but know there is forgiveness in God. Ever wonder why the people at these events seem to be happier in life than you. Think about it.
P.S. Don’t spent the rest of your short lives being miserable seek God!!!!
By coretta cotton
July 19, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this
I just wonder if all you brilliant people believe that the powers that be offered Bishop Jakes Phillips Arena, Georgia Dome & World Congress Center for free? For those who cannot afford to go to the day sessions, all of the evening services are free. Do you have a problem with The Hawks or Falcons charging us when we want to attend games at these facilities so that they can pay their enormous salaries? It takes money to do ministry. I bet you don’t complain about the money the church has when you need your light bill paid. Just as it takes money to run your house, it takes money to run God’s house. The earth is the Lord and the fullness thereof. Unfortunately Georgia Power doesn’t understand that verse and they still require payment from the church (haha). But seriously, please know that God knows everything. If something improper is being done He will deal with it. He will also deal with your disobedience if you do not do what the Word says, and yes tithes and offering are part of the Word. Be blessed and remember judge not lest ye be judged. God Bless!!
By chuck
July 19, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this
it’s funny how everyone sees u when arrive. no one will ever remember when t.d. jake, creflo dollar, eddie long, when their church 1st started. when they had less than 20 members. no one was there when the didn’t have the designer suit’s. if u disagree with the mega fest it’s your choice. it’s funny how jewish or the catholic church think in regards to money. they have no problem with money and a lot of it. the mega fest is free. it u want preferred seating then u can pay $45 dollars to sit on the lower (floor) level. steve harvey event is not expensive only $20. it’s about christians and all people learning about becoming business minded. invest your money, save money. what has jessie jackson or al sharpton taught us ( except how we are always the victim).
By Child of God
July 19, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this
Wow…Where to begin.
The Bible says, “that we all have a choice.” You have a choice to believe the gospel, word of God, that Jesus was born of the virgin Mary and died to save MAN from his inquity and sinful nature.
Your choice to attend or NOT to attend the MegaFest. Your choice to attend Congregational Worship Services (Church)or NOT. Your choice to pay tithes, make offerings, etc… or NOT.
There is a fine line for those that BELIEVE in the gospel, for the Bible says: The road is narrow and straight.” Which means to the UN-BELIEVER that you will never understand worship, praise, tithing, offering, sacrifies, the annointing, the Holy Spirit or the prosperity of Jesus Christ, because YOU CHOOSE NOT TO.
In your choice not to believe in the Word of God (The Bible) and the Living Word of God (Jesus), you deny yourself of many blessings and gifts of the Holy Spirit. One being of wisdom & understanding.
The Bible says that, “many are called, but few are choosen.” Many have been called to spread the gospel and teach, minister, etc…but few are choosen. To the un-believers this means: You are correct that some of those in small churches of larger congregations are not doing God’s will. Their desire is wrong, they minupulate the children of God and thus are robbing the image of God by their distorted views of how one should treat the pulpit and assembly of God’s people. BUT, “God is not a respect of person”; he will judge each one according to THEIR WORKS (Actions). So need to worry.
To those right now, as you read this passage, and you are not saved, but desire that Jesus come into your life right NOW, say this outloud and with the fullness of your heart and believe:
God, I know that I have sinned. I ask you now to figure me of my sins. I believe in my heart that I am now saved. I know that Jesus came here to die for our sins. He was born to Virgin Mary. He was cruxified. He rose on the 3rd day. He now sits at the right hand of God, interceeding for me. I will now serve Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I understanding that “Christ” means the annointing. God, your word says that the Holy Spirit is free to those that believe. So I ask you know God, to give me the Holy Spirit and the true annointing of Jesus Christ. (Now receive it and open your mouth to speak in your heavenly language) Thank you Jesus! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
By Jeff
July 19, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this
Don’t you just hate it when TV ministers ask you for a “suggested donation” of 20.00 for a tape or book?
By Mia
July 19, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this
Just curious, are white people even invited or accepted at this event? Because on tv it certainly does not appear to be so.
By Gerald
July 19, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this
whatever:
OK, educate me. Show me the Bible verse that says that The Word is not supposed to be sold for a profit or sold at all. If that is your opinion, fine, but do not impose your opinion on everyone else. And incidentally, Philips Arena (or the World Congress Center or wherever MegaFest is being held) is not a temple, synagogue, or church!
Even if it was, everyone takes that “running moneychangers out of the temple” verse out of context. Jesus ran the moneychangers out of THE TEMPLE, the one temple where God gave specific instructions regarding who could enter and why. Why? Because that was the ONE TEMPLE where God’s presence was; where the high priests and the sacrifices were to take place; the temple with the veil and the Holy of Holies. Applying that verse to a secular arena where rock concerts and sporting events are held is thoroughly false, and using that verse to claim that the church should be totally free of commercial enterprise is also thoroughly false. MegaFest is no different from a gospel artist charging for a concert, and the price of admission for Megafest is no different for tickets to a gospel concert. Yet I do not see anyone on here calling their favorite gospel artists (including some who are quite wealthy and also some who have sung for President Bush) crooks. Now, why is that? People are on here criticizing Jakes by quoting scriptures from a book that they do not even take the time to read thoroughly and apply in context, let alone believe in, live by, or understand. That is how T. D. Jakes can get trashed for doing the same exact thing that any gospel artist does, especially when you consider that many gospel artists are also ORDAINED MINISTERS.
Incidentally, how much is an acceptable income for a preacher anyway? No one knows. Everyone just has their own personal standard, and usually that standard is based on that individual person’s own financial status. If I make $50,000 a year, then no preacher should make more than $50K. If I make $100K, then no preacher should make more than $100K. The hilarious thing is that everyone assumes that the famous wealthy preachers are the crooks while the ones of modest means are honest. But does anyone have any evidence to back that up? Nope. All that means is that folks would rather put up with an unknown small time crook preacher than a wealthy famous honest one.
By Tony
July 19, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this
Gerald there is a comma between Jim Baker and Southern Baptist convention leader. That means I am talking about two different people smrt guy. All I can say is, people need to wake up!! The good lord gave you a mind to discern right from wrong and scriptures as a map and you still fall in the ditch. You cannot be reading from the Holy Bible. Jakes and his like are the very people Jesus said would come among his flock. Oh yea just for the record will peopl stop saying that what ever is done with Lords money is all on the people that misuse it, you will be held accountable for standing by watching wrong and not opening your mouths.
By FD
July 19, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this
Tiff:
What does Yolanda Adams’ divorce have to do with understanding the unconditional love of God. Her life is not your example…Jesus is your example. Look to the source.
By tony
July 19, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
You can have my seat Mia. You dont have to be black you just need some money, the more the better.
By Craig
July 19, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
Hey Tiff good point on your part as well. I also want to say good point on Whatevers behalf as well. I don’t knock anyone that is going to attend this event but,with all the money that is going to made from this who is really going to profit? O’kay the tickets have been bought and money will still continue to be doled out for whatever reason during the events. With all the money offerings that people will give (some from the heart and others from not wanting to look bad in other peoples eyes) will T.D. and whoever else reaps the rewards give an account as to who all they helped? It is so sad that we as a people have always looked to man for guidance and direction and at times, a what we want to hear and not what we need to hear because the truth will require that we grow up and change our ways of thinking. Many of us are content in not wanting to know the truth or accept it because we hope we will have an excuse to render to God when that time comes. It’s one thing to be ignorant from lack of knowledge and it’s another thing to be ignorant from the hardening of our hearts. Remember we will all have to give an account when that day arrives. We will not be able to point the finger at T.D. Jakes or any other man because we chose to follow and listen to man and not heed Gods word when he warns us to “Study and show thyself approved”.
By Jeff
July 19, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this
The speakers, singers & comics let you know that Jakes doesn’t even attempt to reach out to non black christians. He could make this a truly mega-fest by reaching out to all christians with a diverse lineup.
You should have checked out the Azusa Cenntennial in April in LA, now THAT was a mega fest! The diversity of speakers, singers & people TRULY showed the body of Christ!
By Tonia
July 19, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this
I am lovin it, although I am not going to MegaFest having these many Christians in one town and the same time is AWESOME. GOD IS GOOD, and has given us the right to call Him ABBA FATHER. This time in history is a POWERFUL time for us to be alive, don’t you guys waste on arguing, rather disagree in LOve. That’s what Jesus taught about Love.
Oh yeah, Mia, sure this event is open to everyone. You should stop by I’m sure you will be welcomed with open arms.
Remember: JESUS loves you guys also.
By Whatever
July 19, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this
I have some insight as to why people are so quick to try to cloud the discussion with and bombard you with Scripture to keep you in your place, and it’s the same reason megapimps get over. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A PART OF THEM WHO DOUBTS THAT THERE IS A GOD WHO WILL HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, THAT’S WHY THEY LIVE THE WAY THEY DO, PREACHING FALSE DOCTRINE AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF PEOPLE. THEY REALLY DON’T GIVE A DAMN, WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE SO CAUGHT UP IN THE MATRIALISM OF THE WORLD. They want you to believe however that YOU ARE THE UNBELIEVER AND THEIR FAITH IS UNWAVERING. And you fools buy into it hook line and sinker. Again, I am a Christian however imperfect and without sin I am. However that does not preclude me from speaking out against things that are not right. “Judge not, lest…” People who like to throw that around are cop outs who don’t like to deal with the issues.
By Tony
July 19, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this
Why not team up with Hosea Williams daughter and use some of that to feed the poor and homeless, now thats Gods work.
By Craig
July 19, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this
Hey Tiff good point on your part as well. I also want to say good point on Whatevers behalf as well. I don’t knock anyone that is going to attend this event but,with all the money that is going to made from this who is really going to profit? O’kay the tickets have been bought and money will still continue to be doled out for whatever reason during the events. With all the money offerings that people will give (some from the heart and others from not wanting to look bad in other peoples eyes) will T.D. and whoever else reaps the rewards give an account as to who all they helped? It is so sad that we as a people have always looked to man for guidance and direction and at times, a what we want to hear and not what we need to hear because the truth will require that we grow up and change our ways of thinking. Many of us are content in not wanting to know the truth or accept it because we hope we will have an excuse to render to God when that time comes. It’s one thing to be ignorant from lack of knowledge and it’s another thing to be ignorant from the hardening of our hearts. Remember we will all have to give an account when that day arrives. We will not be able to point the finger at T.D. Jakes or any other man because we chose to follow and listen to man and not heed Gods word when he warns us to “Study and show thyself approved”.
By msteven
July 19, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
Hey TD Jakes
I cant make it to the fest and my mortgage is due for the month of July. can i get a small loan? whats that? Go #!@%&* myself? Why Bishop?! I am appalled at such language!
By Whateverf
July 19, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this
Gerald my friend. You contradict they very argument being made by many on this blog who support megafest. They and even YOU state that this event is a “meeting for the anointed”, “to hear the Word of God”, to “seek the Kingdom of God” and such. I am smart enough to know (and any other Christian for that matter) that the “Church” extends beyond the four walls and roof of a building. The church is the people of the Body Of Christ, and whereverr they meet for the purpose of worship is in essence a “Church”, so spare me the semantics. The bottom line is…I do not believe preachers should be poor. My minister lived a middle class lifestyle, as my current one does, consistent with their congregations. The do the legwork in the community without charge and oftentimes our Church takes on the cost of putting on the events for the community, all in the name of winning souls.
There is a distinct difference between attending a concert that is marketed as entertainment from the get-go, and an event that is plugged as a time of worship, edification and such. We all know that everything in the Church is a ministry, including the person who cleans the church- it’s his ministry. So don’t kill us with semantics. I’m not paying ANYONE to “hear the Word of God”, period.
By ME
July 19, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this
It amazes me everyone in ATL are so quick to quote a scripture of the bible. Yet are the biggest hating hypocrites out there.
GET A LIFE!
By kay
July 19, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this
SATAN is loving this Blog. He’s got everyone doing exactly what he wants. He’s got confusion and chaos all over this page. He’s doing whatever he can and using anyone he can to disrupt people coming together to Glorify the Lord. I will Pray for you all.
By Gerald
July 19, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this
Tony:
Apart from my misreading you over the Southern Baptist Convention leader (and how he relates to T. D. Jakes you will have to tell me; are you saying that church denominations should not have officers?), you managed to evade every single point that I made, points such as A). Jim Bakker was wrongfully convicted and exonerated on appeal and B). People have been investigating Jakes for over a decade and have not found anything close to evidence that he is misusing money.
I am the one using my brain. You are the one following your own preconceived notion based on society’s (meaning “the world”, which is inherently hostile to Christianity) standards that they have imposed on preachers. None of you can show me in the Bible where it says that a preacher’s salary should be limited because it isn’t there. Or at least there isn’t anything there that differentiates between the comfortably compensated pastor of even a medium - sized denominational church ($100,000 a year plus free rent, transportation, and other perks) and Jakes. The only difference is that you personally are comfortable with a preacher being upper - middle class but not wealthy. Well, I am sorry, but I go by what the Bible says (and does not say) rather than folks’ personal feelings, or whatever verses people misuse and apply out of context to justify their personal feelings.
Again, what T. D. Jakes is doing is no different from your typical multi - platinum selling gospel (or Christian) artist. If you want to see Jars of Clay or Audio Adrenaline at a concert, you have to pay $35 bucks. If you want one of their CDs or concert DVDs, it costs $17. Can any of you give me the scripture that says that a preacher can only make $100,000 a year but a gospel or Christian artist (again, a category which includes many ordained ministers) can be a millionaire? Simple: there is none. “The world” accepts gospel artists charging for events and making money, but not preachers. Therefore, since Christians go by the standards of the world and not those of the Bible, they view things the same way despite it being an obvious contradiction that cannot be supported by any Scripture.
Tony, if you are able to come up with an IN CONTEXT AND PROPERLY CONSISTENTLY APPLIED scripture that limits the salary of a preacher or of ANY SCRIPTURE that explains why a preacher cannot make money on books, CDs, and events but a gospel or Christian artist WHO IS ALSO AN ORDAINED MINISTER AND CHURCH OFFICER can, then I will gladly recant. But I know that you cannot and will not, because it is not there. And because it isn’t there, it means that what you are doing is judging based on your own standards, and those standards are based on expectations created by the world which makes it the world’s standards.
Tony, you are just going to have to pardon simple - minded Christians who prefer the standards of the Bible (what is actually in it and not what people think is in it, say is in it, or want to be in it) to the standards of more sophisticated folk like you; a person who has tried and convicted T. D. Jakes of financial impropriety without a shred of evidence.
By KP
July 19, 2006 04:10 PM | Link to this
All you bloggers, I see that no one made any comments to MAC, and I’m not talking about DMAC. MAC is the only one so far that has expressed what God thinks. That’s the question that should be asked. You will only find that in Scripture.
If you want to know what Jesus thinks about riches, read Luke 18:18-30. Jesus offered this rich ruler salvation and he turned it down because the he was very rich (verse 23). Jesus’ disciples believed that if anyone could be saved, it was rich people. When they saw this man turn down salvation, they were amazed and asked Jesus this question “Who then can be saved?”
At this point, Jesus is ready to make is point and teach the disciples about riches.
Jesus says “For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
What did Jesus mean?
You can’t be saved by your own resources! Most of the time, riches hinder people from truly entering the kingdom of God.
Make all the money that you can but if one is not truly converted it will be revealed at the judgement (Matthew 7:15-23).
I hope this helps.
By 3724Acorn
July 19, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this
I have been reading the comments posted on this Blog and I have to say that there is so much hate out there. People need to get it together because regardless if you pay a fee or it was free, people would still find something to complain about. I like the preaching of T.D. Jakes. I don’t know him personally so I can not say I like him, but he brings a mighty word. As a person who was pretty wild, it was one of his tapes that finally brought me to Jesus. I thank God for him and his message. Because where would I be without it. I am praying for all you people that don’t want Megafest here, the Devil has hold of you and I will pray that you are set free.
By Craig
July 19, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this
One last thing, for all you who take offence to the ones on here speaking their minds and speaking the truth about some of these bible pimps SHAME ON YOU! If the truth hurts than you must feel it in your heart of hearts that what some of the people are saying about Jakes, Long, The Dollar Man has some validity to it. If it didn’t you read it, laugh and have a Coke and a smile.
By cc
July 19, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this
It’s funny that someone said that Bishop Jakes does not reach out to whites. Have you heard of Joyce Meyer, Paula White & Martha Munizzi just to name a few. Not only have I seen them at his events, I attended a Joyce Meyers Women’s Conference in St. Louis where Bishop Jakes was a speaker. Most of the negative comments being made are by those who have no personal knowledge of whats going on. Like most rumors, you’ve hopped on the bandwagon with no proof of what is true. Instead of criticizing those who are in the spotlight, pray for them. Also do your part to help those in need, become a volunteer even if you can’t donate money. Why is it okay for authors to write romance novels or even erotica and make millions & you’re okay with it but if a christian sells a book that will give me insight on how to make my life better they shouldn’t make a dime. Yes, I study for myself but God has gifted each of us differently and I believe in sowing into the lives of those who are gifted to teach/preach/lead etc.
By Whatever
July 19, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this
With that Craig I think I WILL go have a Coke. It’s hot as I don’t know WHAT outside and I’m thirsty! Thanks for that perspective.
By Gerald
July 19, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this
whatever:
First of all, I am not responsible for anyone else’s comments. In none of my extremely long posts did I say that “this event is a “meeting for the anointed”, “to hear the Word of God”, to “seek the Kingdom of God” and such.” Second, your pastor is middle class? Well, Catholics do not take a vow of “middle class”, they take a vow of POVERTY. So, according to the Catholic standard is your pastor an exploitative sinner? If the Catholic standard does not apply to your pastor, why should your standard apply to Jakes? Incidentally, I could point out any number of scriptures (out of context of course) that would imply that even your pastor’s middle - class lifestyle is wrong, such as the Mosaic commandment that Levites should not have an inheritance or the instructions given to preachers in the New Testament that all they should have is a change of clothes, that they are to live on the charity of others (living in whoever’s home that will take them in), and that they are not even to ask for money. Again, it is all about people judging everyone else by their own standards and not those of God.
And as for “There is a distinct difference between attending a concert that is marketed as entertainment from the get-go, and an event that is plugged as a time of worship, edification and such. We all know that everything in the Church is a ministry, including the person who cleans the church- it’s his ministry.” …
Now you DID realize that what you just said was TOTALLY CONTRADICTORY, right? Of course you did, because you were joking. Of course you were joking when you said that a gospel concert is pure entertainment, not edification or worship or anything like that. And to illustrate your, parody, I guess, you say “WE ALL KNOW THAT EVERYTHING IN THE CHURCH IS A MINISTRY.” Well, to be fair, gospel concerts happen in arenas and not inside temples of worship. Wow, you mean secular arenas JUST LIKE THE ONE THAT T.D. JAKES IS USING FOR MEGAFEST? So, gospel music is an edifying ministry … except when it isn’t. And it is OK to charge admission for edifying ministry events … except when it isn’t. Boy, I am glad that you were being totally facetious, because if you were not, I would be TOTALLY CONFUSED. Or, at least I would accuse you of applying a different standard to Jakes that you do any gospel artist (many of whom charge admission to concerts in churches by the way … MEGACHURCHES in fact, and many of whom are salaried worship leaders … ministers of music … at churches by the way … MEGACHURCHES in fact) merely because THE WORLD says that it is OK for a gospel artist to make millions of ALL of the proceeds of their royalties and concerts but it is not OK for a preacher to make money off ONLY A PORTION of his ministry (not tithes and offerings but books and CDs).
By This Justin
July 19, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this
I witness the tear shed by Jesus in advance of the unholy spectacle that is about to beseech us! Public Prayer!
Think of Jesus and his contempt of public prayer. Show some respect!
By Mia
July 19, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this
Good point Jeff. Why aren’t there any latino or asian or white performers ? If this is a MEGAfest, shouldn’t every Christain be celebrated. Tonia, your sarcastic response makes me think that any latino, asian or white person that were to show up would not “be embraced”. Let’s be real. If you are speaking the word, why cut out certain groups? A christian is a christian no matter what your race. But the fact is that this event is very clearly targeting black christians and no one else.
By Whatever
July 19, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this
Gerald. Before I go, there is nothing contrdictory in what I said. Like I said, “consistent with his congregation”, period.
FYI..I do the work I do in my music ministry in my church WITHOUT CHARGE, and that includes the original I write and arrange for the choir.
I realize why it takes you so many words to try to make your points.. Because shooting at someone with a shotgun increases your chances of scoring a hit. You do you brother and enjoy megafest. I just know that my blessings are no less than yours and I will receive them whether I spend money and enrich someone else or not. Peace out.
By Shalom
July 19, 2006 04:59 PM | Link to this
Forgive them Father for they know not what they do!!! Look at the NEWS. The Word of God will increase no matter how you fell about. Through imperfect people, none of us are nor will we ever be perfect. But you should be careful whom you place your words of hate upon. Touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm. (Not my perfect people) my anointed, those he has chosen, imperfections and all. The good news is he is merciful to allow you to repent right up to the very end for your blasphemous grumblings. This is interesting; this blog became large faster than any I’ve seen lately. The war is not in Iraq, not between opinions, but between Good and Evil.
Peace an Wholeness to all of you
By JB
July 19, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this
To PreacherEqualPimp, God Bless you - you are sick if you think only Atlantans are at the Megafest. We are from all over I am from Los Angeles, my friends are from New York, Trinidad and Costa Rico.
So, get a life.
By Joshua
July 19, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this
Father, forgive them for they do not know what they are saying or implying. Amen.
By PreacherEqualPimp
July 19, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this
JB,
I have a life, that’s why it’s not going to be wasted at MegaMess. Well you are right. Most Atlantans aren’t going to MegaMess. They like to be pimped locally..World Changers, New Birth, etc.
And for you Pimpees who came from LA, Costa Rico, Trinidad or whatever funky city you are from, take your crime back to your cities and MegaMess along with you.
I must have hit a nerve with JB. Of all the posts on here you picked mine. I feel so delighted.
You are the type of clown that loves giving your money away ….You’ve just got PIMPed!!! See you at MegaMess You sucker!!!!LOL!!! NOT!!!!
By PreacherEqualPimp
July 19, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this
Since you all love T.D. Jakes so much, why not work for him. Here is a posting (7/6/06) for a position with his company:
TELEPHONE PRAYER ASSOCIATE 6:00 a.m. to 3:00a.m. - Sunday through Saturday
Description *Provide scripture base to Partners and *Friends by direct telephone contact *Suggest appropriate products Partners and *Friends to help in their spiritual growth *Record contact in the computer system *Follow up with Partners and Friends who have written or called for prayer *Pray over correspondence from Partners and Friends *Perform other related duties and responsibilities, as assigned
Requirements *High school diploma, or equivalent *Able to identify the needs of Partners and Friends, and determine best how to pray *Excellent written and verbal communication skills *Basic computer and word processing skills *Advanced understanding and knowledge of the written Word of God, with demonstrated abilities in instructing, teaching and edifying *High knowledge of TD Jakes teaching materials and beliefs *Able to appropriately handle sensitive and confidential information *Good telephone etiquette with strong interpersonal skills in ministering and one-on-one contact *Must have good command of the English language
Ryla Teleservices
thepottershouseprayer@ryla.com
Here is the link: http://www.ajcjobs.com/JOBSWeb/jobseeker/jobSearchDetailFromJobSearch.do
By Nobiblethumper
July 19, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this
Georgia is full of bible thumpers! They can support Jakes one of the “pimps of Piety” along with Eddie Long, Creflow Dollar and the likes. But yet they cannot get their school system in check. They believe in the bible a book of stories which as not been proven but yet they believe every word.
First, if Jesus was resurrected and came back to life and he in fact was man why over the hundreds of years no dead person has every risen from the dead. And why has not other virgin every had a child…BULLCrap is being fed to the ignorant for they cannot think for themselves.
Atlanta is full of hypocrites and ignorant people. Megachurches are nothing but place to launder money and you fools keep making the crooks richer and richer.
When will you people get a clue and think for yourself. Going to church does not bring you closer to your so called GOD. You believe in something that is not there..made up.
You are lead like sheep and follow the so called scriptures but why are your children dumber than a box of rocks and you do not put that effort into making education a top priority. Georgia is at the bottom of the barrel as far as education along with the US. Other countries are progressing with technology and education while you idiots are reading a book of fiction.
Just call the customer service of any business and you want to hang up because of the ignorant fool who cannot talk on the other end. Georgia so called the bible belt is the biggest whore house in the south.
By PreacherEqualPimp
July 19, 2006 05:41 PM | Link to this
AMEN Nobiblethumper you and Georgia are as dumb as a box of rocks!!!
By KELSEY
July 19, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this
NEGATIVE COMMENTS will come when you are doing something good, bad or different. However THE TRUE WORD OF GOD must be taught. Too much emphasis is put on what God will do for you, rather What we can do for God. God’s word teaches disciple, order, tolerance, love and even longsuffering. When these things are taught then the WHEAT WILL SEPARATE FROM THE TARES. For all of us that are in the minsitry, (all who profess Christ are his ministers) we understand what this means, unlike many of the commenters on this site who do not. God said to Teach HIS word. We keep trying to invent a new way to serve HIM. —- Less toe tappin and teenage rappin’.—- The world’s way to serve man is now in the church, and I feel unless preachers demand a code of discipline, it can only get worse.We need to teach the true word, and let the SPIRIT OF GOD fall on GOD’s people. Time- out for producing shows in churches. God’s word will run away untrue preachers, members, musicians and all who are untrue to HIS True word.
By Josha
July 19, 2006 06:35 PM | Link to this
Thank you KELSEY!
By pg
July 19, 2006 07:02 PM | Link to this
There is not and never has been alcoholic beverages sold at any conference at the Georgia Dome, whether it be Bishop Jakes, Juanita Bynum or any other ministry. This goes to show that so much gossip is out there and no first-hand knowledge.
Mia..in regards to Hispanic or Latin psalmist performing at MegaFest or any other conference. There has been in the past. Each year the psalmists change. Vickie Yohe and Judy Jacobs are psalmist that are on the agenda this year, and by the way they are white. Paula White and Sheryl Brady are white and they are preaching. If you’ve ever attended, you would know that there are whites, Hispanics, Australians, people from a multitude of other countries attending the conference. If you come to our church, TPH of Dallas, you will see that we have white pastors, Hispanic pastors and have a Hispanic church within THP. We have a music department that has brought in guest psalmist from all cultures.
I pray that this first-hand knowledge will assist you in understanding that The Potters House and any conference that Bishop Jakes conducts are multi-cultural.
By Angelique
July 19, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this
My God, some of these blogs are unbelievable!!!, People, allow me to be real. We all need somebody, we all NEED encouragement and inspiration. Life is a choice, we only get one chance to live. To all the people who choose to talk negatively about “these” preachers. You only say those negative things because you are at a place in your life where you are not happy, total happiness. You are either not happy with one thing or unhappy with many issues. I see the key issue for a lot of people here is money. Drug dealers, pimps, money laundering, you name it, people make money. However these men choose to share salvation and inner peace that can only come through Jesus Christ, in doing do yes, people pay to listen, learn and hope that some day they too will apply these principles and find true happiness and yes, the money is just a mere crumb of a bonus. I was born and raised Catholic, heard the father preach, but never witnessed any fruit, then went to many other churches there after and also heard many preachers preach and teach. But guess what? no fruit. So if the God we serve says we should have life and life in abundance, exceedingly and abundantly in every area of our life, once again, the money is just a part of the reward, then guess what, yes, people will run, pay the fee, and say teach me, show me the way, please introduce me to this man called Jesus. I too want to be financially free, I too want to be a blessing to others. It’s only then it will be up to the people to apply the principles that have been taught. I know what it’s like to live like the rich, the poor and the homeless, but what’s important is that you live your life with Jesus Christ in it. I can honestly say TD Jakes and Bishop Long are the only two of a few pastors that I have witnessed from the beginning stage, way before a Megafest, that preached greatness and I have seen and witnessed their preaching manifested into living fruit exceedingly and abundantly. Don’t hate, take what you have witnessed and learned and apply it to your life and you too may be able to have you own Megafest, Minifest, whatever. My point, apply the principles taught and you too will have fruit. God Bless.
By Archie/Killeen, Texas
July 19, 2006 09:40 PM | Link to this
Bishop T.D. Jakes is an annointed man of God. Those of you who are bashing this man of God, I pray for your souls. One should not put his mouth on a man of God. If you have nothing good to say, then tune to KYMS Keep Your Mouth Shut! and the filth that comes out of your mouth will stop polluting your mind. Go to MegaFest and watch how God will work in your life.
By Jada
July 19, 2006 10:26 PM | Link to this
JB,
I don’t have a problem sweetie, you do. Don’t forget everybody that’s blogging, doesn’t mean they are not christians. They just don’t support the foolishness of these preachers and the megafest. You all sure defensive about this megafest issue! That’s a cult mentality.
Again God Bless!
By Kennedy's Mom
July 19, 2006 10:56 PM | Link to this
I love Bishop Jakes’ message; however, I agree with one of the previous blogs in that he and his MegaFest pulpit should not ask for exorbitant amounts of money (a.k.a Love Offerings). It seems that ever speaker at every service asks for money…and some have the audacity to ask for $1000. That is crazy, especially considering the fact that you have to “pay” for entry to hear the message.
By mel
July 19, 2006 11:02 PM | Link to this
Trust me, I would NEVER put my mouth on a man of God. ;-)
I can’t believe someone is complaining about the event not catering to white people. Welcome to the world of a minority. Sometimes, you might just be the only __ person in the place. YOu shouldn’t let that stop you if you really want to be there!
I’m not going. I don’t feel I need to pay money to hear from God, but I hope those who did get more than their money’s worth. I hope they get truth and wisdom and understanding.
I do wonder where the offerings go at the end of these types of events.
By Chris
July 20, 2006 12:28 AM | Link to this
It’s sad to read so many negative comments about T.D. Jakes and his MegaFest ministry. If what some of you empty minded people are saying is true, so what! He will just be following in the foot steps of all the Jim’s and Tammies; the Swaggart’s and Paulk,s and oh yes! Billy Graham and the other snake oil and fire and brim stone Preachers. Therefore don’t judge this man, just try and see the bigger picture, if you can.
By The Man of Justice
July 20, 2006 12:53 AM | Link to this
Mr. Jakes did not have the first MegaFest. The truth (the Word of God) clearly states that the first MegaFest was actually held on the first day of the seventh month (back then it was on October 8 444, B.C.). Twenty-eight ministry gifts with Ezra and Nehemiah leading, taught all of Israel (i.e. “the children) the word of God. What is important here is that the word of God can change a single soul life. I do not believe Mr. Jakes is a crook at all for sponsoring this. Consider Mr. Joel Osteen and Billy Graham of whom I, a black minister of the Gospel, admire and have learned from. I do not see any “hating” of “blogging” when they have their conferences.
In sum, let us all come to a knowledge of the truth, as the Apostle Paul wrote. I believe with all my heart souls will be saved period, which God wants at these events…
The Man of Justice Ministries
By What's The Fuss
July 20, 2006 01:55 AM | Link to this
I have never witness so much bitterness, hate and evil wishing upon TD Jakes, Long and Dollar in all of my life. You don’t like them, you don’t support their ministry just go on about your business. Don’t try to drag someone else down especially if these men haven’t done anything to you personally. In years past, there has been a lot of manipulation and pimping from the pulpit going on; however, I can’t say that TD Jakes has been apart of that and to the best of my knowledge neither has Eddie Long. All of these articles that John Blake write on Eddie Long and now Bishop Jakes, I have to wonder if or what he has against these men????? At first I thought it was just news reporting, but it has gone far far beyond that now. What’s the real motive?
By Sick
July 20, 2006 06:52 AM | Link to this
YES these things cost but DAM the man is a billionaire he can pay for the plane fares the hotel and the dome he’s having it in. Everybody that is apart of mega fest are rich so having this event paid for should not be a problem. It really doesn’t matter one way or the other cause the rich will always be rich and the poor will stay poor
By Jimmy
July 20, 2006 07:52 AM | Link to this
Why is it that when someone comes on here and has something to say that certain people don’t like the 1st thing that comes out is Satan or Devil. You need Jesus! If you don’t like the Megafest, don’t go. If you don’t like TD Jakes, don’t buy his books, holy water and blessed Rock . It’s that simple! But what gets me is you have folks here who want to throw rocks and sharp words at people who think different and speak out about it. Shame on you, Why don’t you just pray for them instead? You might want to get better seats next year at the mega mess so you can really hear what TD Jakes is saying and it sinks in and you act like you have Jesus in you (Ya can’t serve 2 masters). Now the subject how much it cost to put mega fest on ? Who really cares. TD Jakes gets it done each year ….so NEXT topic ! He’s a business Man remember …!! Get over it People and have a very blessed Day today and the next day .
By What's the Fuss?
July 20, 2006 07:53 AM | Link to this
I’ve never heard that Jakes was a billionaire, but a millionaire. I read in an article recently that it cost 10 million to sponsor, but to rent the Georgia Dome, GWCC and Phillips arena it must cost a pretty penny. Those attending should give the $15 for pre-registration or the $40 at the door. If they are lead to give a FREEWILL offering give it, if not don’t. I wonder who has if there is anyone on this blog who has put something together of this magnitude? There isn’t a charge to attend the general sessions in the evening and the public is welcome. As a matter of fact, in years past Jakes has had a witnessing team out on the street bringing people to those evening sessions. Although I’m not attending this year, I have attended in years past and have had a wonderful time meeting new christians, enjoying the concert and some of the seminars offered. Everything isn’t about pimping the people.
By JB
July 20, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this
No matter what you may believe about a person’s calling, ministry, dedication to God, preaching style, authenticity, etc. Remember what has been said in Psalm 105:15 “Saying, Touch not My anointed, and do My prophets no harm. Amplified version.
The more you talk about, criticize people that God has called two things happen:
If you don’t like something about someone, pray for them, God hears everyone of our prayers…that’s the only way to see change and keep yourself out of trouble.
God sees and knows all, yes he sees the sinners when they sin and he sees the saints when they sin. There are consequences for everything that is “known to be sin” to you and everything that is “not known to be sin” to you.
By Corey
July 20, 2006 08:20 AM | Link to this
As a new creature in Christ I am disillusioned by these religious side shows. I challenge every attendee including Jakes to volunteer their services and time in Vine City, the Old Fourth Ward and Simpson Road for starters. I’m sure if they carry all that praising and shouting into these hoods positive changes will take place. What ya say?
By A True Follower
July 20, 2006 08:23 AM | Link to this
I know nothing of TD Jakes and his ilk, but am suspicious of any person of great wealth preaching their word of God.
I suspect that if Jesus walked the earth today, he would not be speaking at the Dome.
Mother said to us, beware the man who wears his faith on his sleeve, because it means it is not in his heart.
By Hotlanta
July 20, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this
Eddie Long is always bragging about going to the White House as if he is happy to finally set foot on massa’s plantation.
By JM
July 20, 2006 08:31 AM | Link to this
He’s like all the others, rich. Just like Billy Graham, Pat Robertson, Creflo Dollar…all of them that peddle their relgious dog and pony show for a buck. The bottom line is that if you don’t want them walking around with your dollar in their pockets, then don’t go, don’t buy anything, don’t spend any money. If people want to go and spend their money, last time I checked this is still Amercia and we have choices.
By Beverly
July 20, 2006 08:49 AM | Link to this
Beverly STOP IT PEOPLE, PLEASE. AIRING YOUR FRUSTRATIONS, COMMENTS, OPINIONS, ETC ABOUT THIS EVENT IS IS NOT WORTH IT. PLEASE ENTER INTO REST.
By Debra Payne
July 20, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this
The Megafest appears to be an opportunity for Christians to gather, worship, praise and obtain information that will be helpful in their daily lives. That is just fine with me and I plan to attend next year.
The $40 fee is nominal considering the talent, activities, workshops, etc. that are available to families.
I just have one question - Was the issue that surfaced last year regarding advertising with the black media resolved?
By CD
July 20, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this
Freaknik meets God.
By Wake up
July 20, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this
It’s funny to me to witness such criticism when it comes to the things of the Lord. If Mega Fest was a gay pride event, an all star game or pop/hip hop concert the comments would be different. It seems to be okay to purchase concert tickets, and the latest sneaker or anything else made by artists to line their pockets. It seems to be okay for homosexual people to parade about being gay for an entire weekend. Why when it comes to people gathering together to praise the Lord is there such a big problem? “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.”
By emyrld
July 20, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this
Surely the ‘owner’ of the ‘falcons, and braves, and sadly the ‘hawks’ are also wealthy, a lot more so than Jakes, however, we ‘never’ expect for them to have ‘free’ games, and ‘never complain about how much these franchises ‘line their pockets’ with…soo, what’s up with that??? And the amount of money that fans spend at the concession stands are far more than the ‘offerings’ that are taken up at this venue. Boy, we sure are blind-sided when it comes to doing what we ‘enjoy’ !! Give these attendees a break…they too have a right to do what they enjoy, and obviously they enjoy it or they wouldn’t be there….MYOB, in other words ‘mind your own business’
By LIVEANDLETLIVE
July 20, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this
Debra Payne,
I agree with you the fee is nominal. Does it amaze you that people will pay up to a hundred dollars to go see these rappers curse and act a fool on stage, and no one complains, but they complain about paying to go to a worship and praise service. I don’t have the money to attend but I certainly will not criticize those that do. Shame on you Tiff, my mother always said be careful how you treat people, God is watching you.
By Shell
July 20, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this
To all of you people putting down MegaFest, would you rather have MEGA FREAKNIK? No, cause you put that down too. Is it that you just dont like large crowds of black people whether they be positive or not?
By LIVEANDLETLIVE
July 20, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
For all the people on this blog saying ill things about T D Jakes and his ministries, I bet none of you know that profits from his church go to charities all around the world, a lot of people benefit from monies raised at these events and in his church. How much have you given to help the poor, needy, and sick? And for those saying whites and people of other races are not welcomed, “if you have never attended, how do you know who is there”. I promise you attending these events is a lot better than what you are doing with your lives—hanging at clubs, drinking, doing drugs, hating, cheating, etc. Even if you think the preacher is wrong, look at how many people come away with a sense of wanting to do right.
By Hotlanta
July 20, 2006 11:17 AM | Link to this
The thing that gets to me is why is everyone telling blackfolks how/when to spend their money. Nobody would dare tell the Jews how to spend their dollars. Is anyone telling white folks, Italians how to spend their money. It just amazes me how everyone tell black folks how and when to spend their money. Makes you wanna go hmmmmmm.
By Sardis
July 20, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this
It truly is amazing to me how one who professes to be a “Believer” can speak so harshly about a “Man of God”. Comments such as when you leave things will be the same, it’s all about money, lining his pockets,etc.
In 1999, my two daughter’s and I attended the Woman Thou Art Loose Conference in Atlanta and what a blessing it was. My husband and I are pastors and one of my daughters was going through such a state of depression that taking her life was being considered. We ministered to her personally, fasted and prayed but not until Prophetess Juanita Bynum took the pulpit and delivered a powerful message from God, “The Power of the Word”, did she receive the deliverance that set her free. Now, because Bishop T. D. Jakes under the leading of the Holy Ghost was obedient to have her ministered, a life was saved. Our daughter is now the Minister of Music at our local assembly, gospel songwriter and about to graduate with a premed degree. The word of God through the vessels of God did what it was suppose to do.
It takes money to operate in life and that is the case with church. We have to pay Georgia Power, Bellsouth,Georgia Natural Gas, Employees, Benefits and everthing else a secular business has too do. Whatever monies are involved are to benefit the Kingdom.
It would do us much good for those who say we are Christian, Believers, Sons and Daughters of Jehovah to study and stop speaking out of emotions. Check out what the Apostle Pauls teaches the Corinthians in I Corinthians Chapter 9. No one was commenting on Bishop Jakes when he and his family had to eat bologna, his lights were off, food stamps had to feed his family, the deacons were hiding his pitiful car, he had one suit that Sis. Serita washed in the bathtub or all the other obstacles that they had in their lives.
If the President, superstars, famous sports personlities, politicans, businessmen, etc can have it, so shall the men and women of God.
Apostle Paul instructs the believers to leave the judging of the non-believers to God, then why can’t the non-believers leave the things of God to God? See 1 Corinthians 5:12-13.
Please let’s remove our derogatory speech(es) against the men and women of alone.
It’s the choice of an individual to spend their finance where they desire. Be it right wrong or indifferent. Since it’s not your money and no one is soliciting your input keep it to yourself.
By L
July 20, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this
Who cares!! There is no one here who could sway anyones opinion. People of Atlanta are so creepy and backwards…
Let’s talk about the water main break messed up my commute.
By Chell
July 20, 2006 11:38 AM | Link to this
OMG! These white folks got all you people tripping! They get you every time. I don’t care if it’s American Idol or JESUS, you’ll turn on each other like rabbid dogs!
By amara
July 20, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this
Mia - how can you ask if you have to be black to attend Megafest? Have you seen the line-up?? Apparently not, because a lot of the speakers are white - Dave Ramsey, Cheryl Bradley, Bill Buchanan, Aaron and Adam Bagwell, and Timothy Allan, just to name a few. A lot of the attendees are white - I’ve been before, I would know.
Also, as far as the charge is concerned, attending his church is free, watching him on t.v. is free, and many of the Megafest sessions are free. So why is it that this one time per year that he charges (ONLY FOR THE DAY SESSIONS) people are crying foul?
By Amara
July 20, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this
What’s the relevence of Yolanda Adams’ divorce? And do you even know WHY she’s been divorced? Jesus gives an exception to the “no divorce” rule - it’s in the book of Matthew. The bottom line is that you don’t know her personal business. Besides, if Jesus can use a prostitute and a tax collector, why would you assume he can’t use a divorcee?
By Amara
July 20, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this
In response to the comments about T.D. Jakes being rich while some who follow him are poor…
A preacher once said that God called us to ERADICATE poverty, not to FINANCE it. Eradicating poverty involves a changing of the mindset or conditions that caused it. Financing poverty means just giving money to people who are poor, without changing the situations that caused the poverty. As you can see from the scriptures, when Jesus performed miracles, there was a life-changing lesson that followed or preceeded the healing.
I’ve been in situations where I didn’t have ANY money, and was in desperate need of help. If my church had just given me a check to pay my rent or buy food, I would have gotten by one more month, then one more month again, and again and again. It took me hitting rock bottom for me to get to where I am now. Likewise, I have a “friend” who had a child and was only working part-time while in grad school. She wouldn’t get a full-time job, even though she couldn’t pay her rent or feed her child, because she was looking for the “right” job and didn’t want an “in the meantime job” to pay the bills. It wasn’t until the church (and friends) stopped helping her that she finally got a job. Could she have said “I’m poor and my preacher has money”? Yes. Would that have made our pastor a hypocrite? No.
If you have money and your child goes away and squanders everything and has to file bankruptcy and take a low-paying job and you don’t step in and help, does that make you a hypocrite? No. It’s considered “tough love.”
My point in saying all of this is that poverty happens for different reasons - it could be a person’s own doings, where the church can give and give until the person becomes reliant on the church without feeling the need to effect their own change, or it could be a circumstance that led to the poverty that was out of their own control. The bottom line is that we can’t just look at a church and say, “that pastor is rich and certain people in his congregation are poor, therefore he’s a fake.” That’s not the way things work.
It’s also interesting that if there are people in a congregation who are poor and the pastor has money, everyone wants to say “he’s a fake.” But if he preaches on getting out of those conditions that led to poverty so that they can become self-reliant, he’s a “prosperity preacher.” So either way he’s wrong.
There were people who followed Jesus who were poor and sick. Did that make him a fake? No. There had to be people who were poor and sick who followed him. How else could he have performed the miracles he performed? We don’t know how long they followed him before they were healed. But I’m sure someone saw them along the way and thought, “he has poor and sick people following him, so he must be a fake.”
By E Dubb
July 20, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this
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By DMAC
July 19, 2006 12:53 PM
Money is not the rood of all Evil. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Please know your Bible verses before quoting them. God Bless.
By taca
July 20, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this
When I came to Atlanta 9 mos ago I had excitement about attending the Megafest.I must say first Bishop Jakes is a man of God and very annointed.However since I have met 3female, RMI’s, (religiously mentaly ill) and one reprobate couple here in GA. In one of Bishop Jakes recent sermons he spoke about people that go to church/conventions just to get high. I have my concerns that a large majority of these types will be present just to get “high”. My choice is to stay home and pray for the people that a truly seeking salvation and for Isreal.
By terrance
July 20, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this
I was at a club last night on old national rd. I met this table full of pretty women getting there drink on and partying hard. As I was talking with the ladies who very drunk,they say they were in town from Seattle to attend the megafest. What is up with that?
By Jeff
July 20, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this
When I wrote that TD Jakes isn’t reaching out to whites / Hispanics, some of you think we don’t have a clue. Let me explain. If you look at Paula White’s church or where Judy Jacobs ministers, you will see that they pastor / serve in mostly black churches. To invite them and then claim “diversity” is like inviting Charlie Pride to a Country church and claiming the same thing.
True diversity is recognizing our differences and being comfortable with them, but sharing a common purpose. Paula White tries too hard to sound ‘soulful’ (“Slap yo neighbor upside the head”). Being diverse would be having Dave Wilkeson, Jetezen Franklin or John Starnes there.
Jakes plays up diversity (hanging on Bush’s arm when the photo op presents itself) but retreats back to his ‘base’ so people won’t consider him a ‘sell out’. This is how he is on doctrine. He is ‘Jesus only’, a bishop in a ‘oneness’ organization, but hides that fact when mingling with the trinitarians.
Remember, instead of working with Promise Keepers, he started his own thing for black men (Manpower). It’s all about ego & controlling the ‘brand’.
By kaustin1072
July 20, 2006 01:10 PM | Link to this
See Jakes for free: You don’t need a ticket for every event at MegaFest. In fact, most of the events where T.D. Jakes is preaching are free and open to the public. It’s just that ticket holders get preferred seating. Wednesday night’s general service was open to the public, as is the final event at 1 p.m. Saturday at the Georgia Dome.
By taca
July 20, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this
To Torrence, You just proved my point toooooooo many people want a feeling and not a life changing experience. Religion means bondage/slavery. “True salvation” means to turn away from/about face… I HATE religion. this is my only sermon…God is out of time, not out of mercy.
By Proph. G.
July 20, 2006 02:27 PM | Link to this
For all those bloggers who are talking about how it takes money to run the kingdom, let me inform you of something. Every need to be supplied doesn’t necessarily involve money…have you ever heard of FAVOR??? The Bible clearly states in Proverbs 12:2, “A good man obtaineth favour of the Lord: but a man of wicked devices will He condemn.” When a true man or woman of God is operating uprightly before the LORD, he or she has the privilege to experience the supernatural power of God in the form of FAVOR. Favor will do what money CANNOT! Even Jakes could do this MegaFest thing without spending or needing the people to come in to spend if he truly sought the Lord to do it that way and believed Him for it. With God, ALL THINGS are possible! [Matthew 19:26] God can cause the devil himself to make him give his money to fund the cause of God! Every preacher out there doesn’t spend the people’s money to get his message out…it’s just that you don’t hear about it much.
Also check out many miracles in the Bible. You don’t see or hear too many folks talking about the working of miracles. Everything God does for His people WILL NOT always involve a dollar! A lot of church people don’t understand that when they are sitting under “money ministries.”
Even when it comes to paying bills [somebody said something about Georgia Power]. Here’s a short testimony: Once I needed a Ga. Power bill paid [over $300, a lot for me at the time]. I only had $100. The Lord spoke to me and told me to give what I had to somebody else [who I didn’t know had a need themselves]. After doing so, the Lord immediately blessed me with an expected check in the mail with an amount that was MORE than the Ga. Power bill right in the nick of time! So I was able to pay my bill, have money left over, and bless somebody else in the process! “Give, and it shall be given unto you, good measure, pressed down , shaken together, and running over shall men give unto your bosom…” Luke 6:38. Also If ye be willing and OBEDIENT, ye shall eat the good of the land.” Isaiah 1:19
Realize that the kingdom of God is more than money and finance, it is the physical and spiritual manifestation [open demonstration] of God’s Spirit in earth as it is in Heaven for His people and for His glory!
By Jake the Snake
July 20, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this
“So why is it that this one time per year that he charges (ONLY FOR THE DAY SESSIONS) people are crying foul?”
Because he is driving a Bentley!
By Carolyn
July 20, 2006 03:41 PM | Link to this
I’m so disappointed with all the hate that I see in these blogs, why don’t you haters get a grip and understand that God is no respector of persons and if anyone gives of himself or herself to be used of God, God will use you. I really sense in my spirit that a lot of you that are hating on Bishop T.D. Jakes are simply envious, and trust me that spirit is from the pit of darkness. Light always dispels darkness. Give your life to Christ and trust me you will see the truth in this behavior of hatred toward this Man of God. God bless you in spite of yourself. Amen Amen Amen
By Get it right
July 20, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this
For all you christians who are dogging Megafest and Bishop Jakes, i just want to remind you that this is not the way christians should operate. Beleive it or not Bishop Jakes is a child of God and if you see your brother or sister in the wrong, you as a mature christian need to take it to the Lord and ask God to deal with that person or deal with you. Blogging about a man of God on the AJC is not the CHRISTIAN way to approach the situation. Yeah, all of us get different teachings from our pastors which may or maynot line up with what Bishop Jakes is all about however, you do not deal with situations like that. Pray for Him. I mean if he does not interest you then leave it alone and go your merry way. Regardless of what you all write, there are thousands of people who came out to enjoy this event, and that is what will be the outcome of it. The Lord made us all unique remember not everyone is like you. If you do not understand something then don’t bash it. WE as christians have to walk in love for one another first to our spiritual brothers and sisters, then to those who are not born again. The behavior is not exemplifying Christ at all. Let Bishop Jakes and his followers be. Because while you are here wasting yuor time blogging those people at MegaFest not paying you no mind.
I personally did not attend, however i am not bashing the event because then i will have to repent for my actions. That is not the love Christ portrayed. Remember it is not really about Bishop Jakes, its about your walk with the Lord, every man has to work out his own salvation. So Please brothers and sister in the Lord, let us not get involved in the name calling and all that stuff.
En Agape
By Amara
July 20, 2006 03:50 PM | Link to this
Prof G -
By your logic, what’s the purpose in tithing if all we need is to ask God for miracles? And yet God requires that we tithe. And give offerings.
What’s the purpose in taxes? We should just institute a Christian nation and do away with taxes, right? I mean, we’ll be operating on faith/favor/miracles, so who needs to charge citizens to pay for anything?
“Render unto Caesar that which is Caeser’s, and unto God that which is God’s.” - Jesus
By Jake the Snake
July 20, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this
Flashy items like Bentley’s bring envy, so I would think a man of God would not want to spread that type of behavior or message. I’m pretty sure the kicker in that statement is the fact that Bishop T.D. Jakes is a man of God.
By Why is it.
July 20, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this
So,if I am doing something wrong. A preacher can talk about me. Or if another ministry was doing something wrong a preacher could put them down. But woo, don’t dare talk about him or say he is wrong because he’s a man of God. Is it ok for him to put down other men of God but not be called on certain thing himself.
By Corey
July 20, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this
Fellow Christians in the Mega Fest audience, Corey is still waiting for you to take the challenge he mentioned in his 8:20AM post.
By moses
July 20, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this
I don’t think Jesus would attend Megafest or Freaknic. Can you imagine him dancing in the back of old chevy to tootsie roll?
By jeff
July 20, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this
Hey Corey, No money to be made in those places. Like the prosperity message can’t be preached in haiti or Darfur, only in western capilistic countries.
By dee dee
July 20, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this
Why not comment on:
TRASH T V >>>LOUD BEHAVIOR>>> CURSING IN PUBLIC… NO HOME TRAINING >>> NUDE DRESSING… NO body is talking about that. CHANGE FOR POSITIVE THINGS - GOOD THINGS - MEANINGFUL THINGS —-
The public is not talking about that, Sadly Church people aren’t either. MONEY is what the church is known for. The image is there. Whose fAULT is that? GOD IS NOT PLEASED.
By Shep
July 20, 2006 05:46 PM | Link to this
Lebron James & Dwayne Wade just signed for mega-millions. Mike Vick signed for mega-millions. Will Smith and many other entertainers make boo-coo millions. Bill Gates is worth $40 Billion!!! Nobody cares when these people and other successful people make money, but as soon as a preacher makes a little there’s always a problem. The bottom line is you get paid what you’re worth. TD Jakes touches and delivers the Word of God WORLDWIDE!! It is not fair to expect him to be BROKE!! Stop thinking preachers are supposed to be broke. Nobody has a problem with Billy Graham, Joyce Meyers, Charles Stanley and the money they are making. Many of the aforementioned have worldwide ministries and large conferences as well. Stop drinking the hater-ade people and be thankful that our Lord & Saviour is not as judgemental as many of the bloggers in this forum, otherwise we’d all be hell-bound!
By PG
July 20, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this
Corey,
To your 8am concern. The focus in ATL is on the souls that come into the GA Dome and those that are within the complex who do or do not know Jesus.
But for your info in Dallas we hit the streets, projects and minister the Gospel. Last week we went to a project and the surrounding neighborhood and clean the yards of the residence. So yes we see a lot of positive change in our community where Bishop Jakes church resides. It is the responsibility of the local church there to do what Bishop and his church do in our community. We also minister in less fortunate countries as well: Kenya, Bulgaria, Mexico, Belize, India with medical and ministry missions.
As a matter of fact I challenge you and your church (if you are a member of one) to do outreach in your local community so that you can be effective in building the Kingdom God as the Great Commandment commands us to do.
By Lolo
July 20, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this
* PEOPLE, PLEASE JUST RELAX…LIVE AND LET LIVE. IF YOU DON’T AGREE, DON’T SUPPORT. IT’S SIMPLE….HYPERTENSION IS A KILLER!!*
By Erney
July 20, 2006 06:26 PM | Link to this
Artie, Why don’t you read the Scripture before you speak? What do you mean it does no good? Hebrew: 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of yourselves together, as the manner of some is (like you); but exhorting one another: …
And for all of you that are so concerned about how these saints are spending their money. What is that to you? No one is asking you for a dime. Are you concerned what the people are doing with the money when and wherever you choose to spend yours. Just like you they have the choice and right to give when and where they please. After all did those people participating in Megafest get any money from you? So just mind your own business or better get a life.
All of you are living proof that this is from God. Because, whenever the Lord is at work here come the critics like you sent straight from Satan. So all of you may as well shut up and find something else to complain about. Because, no one can stop what God has put in motion.
By Everlast
July 20, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this
Boy we sure luv to hide behind the scripture when we are backed in a corner….Just like the man who raped and abducted his ex-girfriend today…and when the cops arrested him…all he had to say was. “I just asked God to forgive me”. This is why I’m ashamed of my own race sometimes….we quote the scripture like it’s the way to salvation but WE DO NOT LIVE OUR LIVES THAT WAY!!! I’m a Christian, and I live my life that way each and everyday…..and guess what….a FOOL can read and memorize scriptures. We pick out only the scriptures that pertain to us….or think pertain to us….Everyone that is trying to stick up for Megafest is writing this loooong book containing several scriptures……that’s not going to get you in Heaven…..just knowing how to quote the Bible. I’ve seen Mega churches band Gay membership in the church….but you have Deacons and preachers in the church committing infidelity and you just “counsel” them…..sin is sin isn’t it….
By BEV
July 20, 2006 07:26 PM | Link to this
Let’s just stop hating whenever we as a majority blacks get and do something positive the world get scare and threaten. Bishop Jakes and this Megafest is there to empower our people as a race and as a born-again Christian. Don’t worry, white race, it will be a long time before we catch up with you guys.
To GOD BE THE GORY
By Dr. Eugene Williams, Sr.
July 20, 2006 09:12 PM | Link to this
Since the first Mega-Fest, I have wanted to be in Atlanta to share one of God’s gifts to His Kingdom. That gift is a vocabulary book for youths based on words from the New King James version of the Bible. The only one of its kind in the world, this book would benefit so many youths, especially Black brothers and sisters who tend to do more poorly on the verbal section of the PSAT/SAT than some other races. Tonight while viewing an interview with Bishop Jakes on Trinity Broadcasting Network(TBN), I thought if my son,an Emory University graduate and now poorly paid English teacher and I had the necessary funds to share the book with many of those young people mentioned in Mr.John Blake’s article, we could impact the lives of the youths so positively. But because my son and I are teachers with meager funds to buy exhibit space and pay for other accomodations.And because we have not been blessed to convince Bishop Jakes and the Mega-Fest planners that GROUNDED IN THE WORD:A GUIDE TO MASTERING STANDARDIZED TEST VOCABULARY AND BIBLICAL COMPREHENSION should be a part of the activities, many parents and youths do not know about this self-published book that is the only one of its kind in the world.Recently because we live close to Baltimore, Maryland, we had the opportunity to share the book with youths at the Congress of Christian Education, National Baptist Convention, USA. We did not have to exhibit,only present which the youths and their supervisors accepted and responded to with enthusiasm. We are still receiving calls and e-mails. God is so good. If you wish to know more about the coauthors and the book, simply do an internet search on GROUNDED IN THE WORD or Eugene Williams,Sr. or Eugene Williams,Jr. We both have a passion for young people and their learning which is why we recently released IT’S A READING THING:HELP YOUR CHILD UNDERSTAND. Every parent and child at Mega-Fest could benefit from reading this book also. Pray that GROUNDED IN THE WORD becomes a staple in homes and churches throughout the world. Bishop T.D.Jakes is an annointed man of God who is doing so much for our people,here in the U.S. and abroad.Keep him in your prayers also and all his workers who have a passion for young people.
By Texas Tea
July 20, 2006 09:36 PM | Link to this
Over and over, people are mentioning the Bishop Jakes is lining his pockets with the proceeds from Mega. Forty dollas is nothing for a 4 day conference registration, you’ll spend more than that for a ticket to Six Flags. Did any of you stop to think that it costs MONEY to rent/use the Georgia Dome and Georgia World Congress Center? Is Bishop Jakes supposed to incur all of those costs out of his pocket? I mean, let’s be realistic here.
No one has mentioned that ALL events where Bishop Jakes is speaking are FREE and open to the general public. I attended the opening session on Wednesday night and will attend on Friday night as well for the free sessions. I did not register for the event because I could not get off work to attend the day time seminars and workshops. I did, however, give a very generous offering when the time came because I felt in MY heart that it was the right thing to do.
Please realize that everyone who is attending this event is doing so for THEIR benefit with THEIR money! We are free to spend it as we wish!
Have a blessed day!
By akt
July 20, 2006 09:37 PM | Link to this
wait a minute wait a minute For all you out there that is talking about Bishop Jakes remember the scripture that states put not your mouth on my servant. Just think for a moment Bishop has been in the ministry about 30 years and all you saints out there that are putting your mouth on him do you really think your all mighty God would allow someone like this to lead not hundreds but millions of people of stray. I belive not. Before he would do that he would uncover him. Bishop has a heart just listen to him he is trying to share his knowledge and wisdom with not only his people but any one who has a ear to hear. As far as lining his pockets that is not so, my children have benefited greatly from this minisitry they have went on several mission trips to South America, Mexico free of charge thanks to the Bishop. If he is lining his pocket how did he pay for the 40 million dollar church in 4 years plus his church helps hundreds of people and do you know that he is digging water wells for our brothers and sister in Africa.
And remember Abraham he was filthy rich and God continue to bless him. You mean to tell me God can’t do that today.
Why can’t we have a person that God has truly bless to represent our people. Why is it that we can appreciate and celebrate one of our own.
Lord I know you are listen so please forgive them for they no not what they say.
By Ripdog
July 20, 2006 09:48 PM | Link to this
You know, what T.D. Jakes and other tv pastors are doing isn’t bad. I simply don’t prefer it. I don’t think the gospel should be for sale. African Americans have a long history of dynamic men of God that could easily command the type of money that many of these television preachers have. The late Hosea Williams, Andy Young, Martin Luther King Jr., all black men of God but used their power for the common good of all, not individual prosperity. We are living in a time where black males are going to jail at an alarming rate, not graduating from high school, racism still exists, too many black people not voting, AIDS affecting African Americans at a disproportinate rate, failing marriages, I could go on. Why turn the gospel into a business. That turns people away from the church and causes them to question the integrity of the church. Like I said in the beginning of this post, they aren’t bad but I question why so much focus on prosperity.
By Robert
July 20, 2006 10:13 PM | Link to this
Are you serious? Megafest is a religous festival? You have to be kidding!!!!
A friend working at the Sheraton downtown said that due to those attending Megafest, the maids had to bring their carts into the rooms. Evidently these “religous” people were stealing everything off of the maid carts if they left them in the hall.
Plus, just driving through downtown with all of those “religous” people, I have never seen so many rude and stupid (don’t know to walk with the walk sign) people in all of my life! I cannot wait until Atlanta returns to normal and these “religous” people leave….
These “religous” people need to find real religon.
By Atlantian
July 20, 2006 10:14 PM | Link to this
Don’t Worry Be Happy!! Three full hours of MegaFest activites will be shown on Pay Per View August 6th WOW!!!
By Deirdre
July 21, 2006 12:40 AM | Link to this
Dear Atlantian…it’s “Atlantan”.
This was just another put on show for blacks. Pay to see it on t.v.? I wouldn’t go see it for free if it was playing in my front yard.