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Students in trouble
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Nine out of 10 Clayton students have had someone approach them about a gang, says Superintendent John Thompson in an article in the AJC .
None of us should like those odds, except perhaps the gangs. Until recently, I admittedly had no idea a symbol spray painted on a street near our house was gang related. One neighbor did and thankfully had the county remove it the same day, although having paint removed was the easy part, I’m sure.
Would you recognize the signs (and/or symbols) that your child may have been asked to join, or may already be involved in, gang activity?
According to the The Citizen, some may carry “gang bibles” that are “Filled with handwritten information that needs to be known about the gang, including what certain symbols mean, where the gang originated and who its founders and leaders are.”
Some other warning signs to look for include: drug/alcohol use; abrupt personality and/or behavioral changes; changes in clothing patterns with a preference towards a particular color, sports or team logo; use of hand signs and/or signals as an alternate way to communicate; tattoos or branding of the body with distinguishing designs, logos or names; withdrawal from family or an unusual desire for privacy; associating with troublemakers and/or secretive peers and frequently staying out late, breaking curfew rules and/or laws. This comes full circle back to parental involvement on every level, which is a problem for many Clayton students.
Also remember that our commissioners passed law in 2005 stating those 17 or younger must be off the streets by 11 p.m. every night. Friday and Saturday they are allowed to be out until midnight, with exceptions made for those who work, attend school events or are under parental supervision. Violators are fined up to $1,000 and parents are fined the same if the child is involved in unsupervised activities.
Contact the Clayton County Police Department’s Gang Intelligence Unit if you suspect gang activity.
Have you any noticed gang related activity in your neighborhood?
Other news:
Advance voting takes place 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. on November 24, 25 and 26 ONLY at various locations. The Special Election is Tuesday, December 2. Absentee ballots are available online.
If unable to vote in person, FAX or MAIL your absentee ballot to the Board of Elections. Local elections include school board Districts 1 and 9, and the runoff between incumbent Republican Saxby Chambliss and Democrat Jim Martin.
Wishing you a blessed and safe Thanksgiving Clayton!
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By Sounds Fishy
November 24, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
Nine out of ten students have been approached about a gang - that’s hard to believe. I’m curious how accurate this statement is (sounds more like a scare tactic to move forward with the dress code policy). Instead of scaring everyone and hyping up the data, just be a leader and state that the district will be in uniforms. I’m for uniforms but not for scare tactics. Nine out of ten is 90% - just don’t buy that. Another example of not being able to trust the current leadership of Clayton County.
By Larry O'Keeffe
November 24, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
To Sounds Fishy, Believe it, The statement that 90% of our Middle and High School students are approached by one of their peers about gang membership is probably conservative. Ask any student. If they trust you they will tell you they know who the gang members are, who the recruiter is and what the requirements are to join. Some students may not be aware they have been approached / checked out. It is not always an overt process. But I assure you this is real and any one that thinks otherwise is only refusing to acknowledge the truth. Ask Officer Richards of CCPD or any SRO they can enlighten you as to the facts. They see it every day.
Dr. Thompson has made several statements about this and the uniformed dress policy change lately. He was planning to implement a system wide dress policy next school year anyway and was concerned about its acceptance. The recent violence involving Clayton County Students was an opportunity to announce it and gain community acceptance.
My concerns run much deeper than uniform dress. Until we as a community address the root causes of violence in our coimmunity this kind of tragedy is bound to reoccur.
A School Uniform Dress policy is not going to stop the violence our children face every day on the streets. The majority the incidents cited in the articles took place in the early hours of the morning approximately 3:00am. It is tragic that our young people have to face this but teenagers cruising around at 3:00am is not a school system issue. It is a parental issue.
What a Uniform Dress Policy can influence, is the tensions that spill over into our schools from actions initiated on the streets outside of school hours. Colors and style of dress are strongly associated with membership in certain groups aka Gangs. High School Students are under enormous peer pressure to conform to one group or another, whether or not they actually participate in those group’s activities. A Uniform Dress Policy will lesson but not eliminate these issues.
While the recent shootings involving Clayton County Students did not occur on school property don’t allow yourself to think it can not happen. About 6 years ago after a football game a young man opened fire on a crowd of students at Morrow High School. I was present when this shooting occurred. This incident was the catalyst that caused me to make a commitment to take an active roll in our schools and community in the hope of preventing this kind of tragedy.
Ultimately we must address these issues in the home as well as the community. The roots of this hatred and violence run deep within the fabric of our community. There is no single issue that can be blamed for it. The issues that led to this upwelling of crime and violence in the youth of our community are many and will require multiple solutions. We must work together to find and implement these solutions. We must engage the young people of our community in this search for solutions. Without their participation and commitment we cannot be successful. We must give them constructive and attractive alternatives to gang membership.
As a community we are experiencing a period when violence and hate are self perpetuating. Unfortunately this is a echoing of what is occurring throughout the world. Unless we are able to break the cycle that perpetuates these actions we will continue to face the consequences.
Great men that through their actions precipitated world change in the past recognized this issue. The teachings and actions of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Mahatma Gandhi both echo the fact that hate begets hate. We must work to eradicate hatred first within ourselves and then wherever we find it, if we are to become a truly enlightened society of brotherhood and peace. This is the dream that Dr. King spoke so eloquently of in his Washington address.
Clayton County is uniquely positioned to live the dream that Dr. King spoke of. But to do so we must overcome the hatred that still persists to this day. This hate has become more insidious. It permeates throughout our community and the world at many levels. Individuals exploit this hatred to manipulate us and advance their own agendas. Some posters on this blog espouse and encourage racial hatred by their statements. I have been a target of this tactic. I often wonder what their true motives are. However I believe that when I draw these kinds of racial hate attacks it is an indication that I must be hitting close to target.
If you truly want to help curtail the violent activities of the gangs in our community then stop promoting hate. Instead take every opportunity to promote harmony and cooperation. Actively support community efforts to assist our families and young people to have and make constructive and productive choices. Instead of posting hate filled blogs attacking those that are making the effort.
I am sure this post will generate more derogatory comments about me on this blog. And those comments may cause me to regret posting on this blog. However as someone that lived through an era of political action and change in the 60’s I feel the need to at least attempt to pass that spirit on.
Pray for our Schools Larry O’Keeffe
By Why'd you ask
November 24, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
You would like to say it’s the break down of the family unit. These kids turn to their peers for comfort and support. I don’t think that the family unit has everything to do with these gangs and their thug dealings. You have a lot of good parents out there. Just as you have bad parents. Many parents attempt to keep their children on the right path, but sometimes the allure of the gang “family” is just too much, and sometimes it’s done in a threatening manner that the child may not feel they have any other recourse, unless they themselves want to be killed by the gang attempting to recruit them. It’s a sad world we live in now and the murder of a child is not what we like to hear.
Putting uniforms on the kids is just what you see on the outside. I seriously doubt it will change what is on the inside of these gang members and wannabe members. It starts with education and community involvement. I don’t care what your skin color is, we’re all affected by this. A drive by shooting usually has a target, an innocent bystander, well, they just got in the way.
Pray for these families who have gotten caught up in this mess. Deal with the deliquent parents who don’t want to parent their children. Because I’ll tell you, more often than not, a deliquent child is a deprived child.
By Pat
November 24, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
I am a parent of an A student who attends a Clayton County school. There are many of us who live in Clayton County who care about our children’s education. I blame the Housing authority in Atlanta who made it convenient for the criminals to move into our neighborhoods with their section 8 and destroy our schools and communities with no regard for person or property. Clayton County at one time was a nice place to live.
By Black Power 08
November 24, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
I blame the white homeowners who feld Clayton County because they refuse to live next to blacks and are so quick to say on their listings “Section 8 Ok” Who can blame a poor family for wanting to get their kids out the projects and into a stable home? Stop blaming poor people for all the problems in this country! It’s the greed of the whites that created this problem.
By Why'd you ask
November 24, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Black Power, it’s small minds and attitudes like yours that are the root of this problem. Instead of wanting to jump in and see what positive role you can play, you automatically want to be a racist. Your screen name says it all. Sad, sad, sad.
By District 5 resident
November 24, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
When will you stop blaming “whitey” and start looking at yourself as the root of your problems?
I, as a white individual, am tired of being blamed for your problems. I am not “greedy” or trying to hold you back. I am trying to pay my bills, provide for my kids and hopefully one day retire nicely.
There are no more excuses when a BLACK man will become president in a couple of months.
By Amen
November 24, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
If you want crime and violent behavior to decrease, gangs to not have a stranglehold on the youth in our schools, and students to act responsible on and off campus, bring God back into our schools.
By Joshua
November 24, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this
Wake up everybody. Where is this superintendent on the 9 mandates? As for you O’keefe the negative is that you and others are not dealing with what will destroy our school system and has the most negative affect on our children—LOSS OF ACCREDITATION! THERE SEEMS TO BE THIS ATTEMPT TO THROW THE TAXPAYERS AND STUDENTS UNDER THE BUS. Thomas was hired to save our accreditation. Instead he openly blames “white” people for the problems and keeps trying to insinuate himself into our social problems. We do not need him for that! I SAT IN A MEETING WITH HIM AND HE WENT ON AND ON WITH RACE IS THE PROBLEM WITH US NOT GETTING OUR ACCREDITATION BACK. Do the people of Clayton have any will or are they going to stand by and let this board and superintendent throw us to the wolves?
By TRUE DATA FINDER
November 24, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this
District 5 Resident, you are an Idiot! Just because Obama will become President don’t mean “CRAP” for Blacks in Georgia. Georgia is one of the “Most Racist State” in the union. Look at how the whites voted here-not for Obama.
Look at the HeadLines of the AJC today. Georgia have a “Backlog on prosecuting “Ethics Cases” in fact a five(5) year Backlog. However, the KLAN of Clayton and Sonny prosecuted CCBOE final four former members “ASAP” in other words, “Leapfrog the whites on that list and so-called prosecuted the Blacks expoditiously!!!
NOTE: The Students are not in Trouble; the parents are in trouble Parents can either train their children now or let the Prison Sysyem train them later. But nothing will stop them from being “Exploited by the whites
By Dat Right
November 24, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this
Deez students deserve an A+ in “Thuggery 101.”
Dey Fools!!!
By Mandingo's Gangster
November 24, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this
Joshua, you’re another Idiot. I have told you several times on this blog, that the only reason Clayton don’t have Accreditation is because the White Businesses in the County wants the School System’s Money.
Now that’s the Bottom line Up Front. Whites also want you the Majority in this County to start voting for “Whites” under the guise of they have more “Experience”.
Joshua write Barack and Michelle and tell them about your accreditation problem—- I bet the white boy will fix it QUICK THEN!!!!
WARNING: Whatever you do—DON’T VOTE FOR CHARLTON BIVINS—he’s the worse thing that can ever happen to CCBOE!!!
By Public Enemy #1
November 24, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this
Joshua, Larry Okeefe and his friends are the MAIN REASON you don’t have accreditation. Him and the likes of Charlton Bivins, Mike Glanton, Elgrin Bell and the like.
They sold your accreditation in an attempt to “Change how the Clayton Populous Thinks”. They’re like the Negroes who sold Negroes to the white man in the Motherland.
(((DON’T VOTE FOR CHARLTON BIVINS)))
By Mr Charlie
November 25, 2008 7:24 AM | Link to this
I believe the kids killing each other are the chickens comimg home to roost.
These kids today were not slaves, nor were they denied the front seat in the bus. As a matter of fact, any one of them could have been president of the United States.
Clayton is proof that blacks have failed.
By Citizen 1
November 25, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this
Our children are in trouble; however, I am speaking of our children across the world and of all ethnic backgrounds and origins.
Clayton county has changed dramatically over the years, and the blame can attributed to several things:
Yes we (Clayton County) has seen a wave of people of all nationalities enter our county who DO NOT have a sense of responsibility. These people have no regards for property value or respect for their neighbors and neighborhoods. Therefore, their children are only reflections of the environment they come from, so WHY should we expect them to do more in school? These children come from an environment where they have seen a means of survival as that of stealing or taking advantage of any given situation.
So how did these people arrive in Clayton County? C-Tran opened the flood gates for these people to easily move from the run-down projects of Atlanta to our neighborhoods. Again, why should we expect these kids to do well in school, their PARENTS don’t even care if they go to school.
By BS
November 25, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this
Well with people like Mike Vick as a role model is it really a suprise. and when the music and games are all about killing, pimping and drug dealing of course they are going to think thats what they have to do to be cool.
Parents need to get involved in their lives even if you are divorced you can still be a positive influence in their lives
By bs
November 25, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
Mandingo and Black Power I realize you are just starving for attention and just post racial remarks just to get people worked up. But I cant help but feel sorry for your children.
I guess there are some cases its better the parents arent involved in their kids lives
By Look, Observe, and See for yourself
November 25, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
Good Morning Kimberly,
Thank you for a very insightful, informative and detailed blog on the problem of the youths, teen-agers, and gangs in Clayton County.
Most of these criminally minded, deviants, and dangerous juveniles that are causing trouble, crimes, and other illegal activities in Clayton County are coming from the city of Atlanta, Georgia as the city closes its numerous dangerous, crime filled, and crime infested housing projects and many of these dangerous, violent prone, and criminally minded teen-agers and well as their sorry, criminally minded adult parents and relatives who do not want to take the time to raise, discipline, and be a positive force in their lives of the children that they have given birth to because they themselves do not care nor want to do the right thing and live the right way as productive law abiding citizens are moving to Clayton County in massive high numbers with the county’s glut and proliferation of apartment homes, extended stay hotels and motels, trailer home parks, single family low-cost as well as low end housing and the glut of rental homes and housing even in nice, clean, upscale neighborhoods that they rent or purchase with their Section 8 vouchers from the Clayton County Housing Authority of Jonesboro which controls the Section 8 program in Clayton County and lalso bears responisibility in this major problem in Clayton County.
If the readers of this blog doubt this, all you have to do is drive through the Clayton County cities of Riverdale and College Park which if you take the exits off of I-285 to College Park and the Riverdale Road exits and look at the awful, bad, blighted, and deteriorated decayed look of the businesses, apartment homes, fast food places, second-end stores, shops, and other low-end businesses that line Riverdale Road (State Road 139), Old National Highway, Upper Riverdale Road, the trailer home parks behind businesses on Tara Boulevard and well as on Highway 85 which runs the entire length of the city of Riverdale into Fayette County, you will see the very visible proof and evidence of this for yourself.
By PHJ
November 25, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
That’s the longest run on sentence I have ever seen
By Tman
November 25, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
Parents are at fault. period. Don’t look at the child look at the parent who raised him or her. The parent is the troubled one who could not raise a child to be a good citizen. Don’t let the parents escape their role in society. In this progressive role we forget where we came from. My children won’t. They will be productive citizens.
By Citizen 2
November 25, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Citizen 1 - do you think Clayton Co. is the only place that has a wave of people of all nationalities and public transportation? There are many cities with both of those items and not in the same mess of Clayton Co. We need to stop blaming everything and everyone and look in the mirror. Clayton Co. lacks parental support, involvement - just a lack of parenting. You cannot wait until a child is a teenager and gets in trouble before you start parenting. Start at knee high. The youth of Clayton County are raising themselves and doing whatever they want… to include stealing and killing. They then grow up to be citizens of the community that are not contributing positively.
By WTF?
November 25, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
What can the leadership do to move this county forward? Where is the vision? Who is capable to lead this county out of the wilderness?
Bell, You served your season. We need to start looking at people who can serve this county and move it forward. The county will be banrupt next year! Our taxes will be raised and services will be cut. More business will be moving out and the county will suffer.
Who is on the bench? Who is capable of future leadership in this county?
By B. Hill
November 25, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Lee Scott is the best choice for Chairman.
I like his leadership style.
By Look, Observe, and See for yourself
November 25, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
The truth of the matter is that Clayton County is not a very attractive and desirable place for upscale, professional, and respectable people with their children to live, work, and play.
Because of the loss of accreditation of our Clayton County Schools, the influx of noncaring, disrespectful, apathetic, look-the-other-way, criminally minded adults, youths, teen-agers, and young adults, the lack of our elected leaders, officials, and people in positions of power, command, and authority to show and act like they care about the look and appearance of Clayton County, no one in their right mind would consider moving to Clayton County to live, work, and play except for the people who do not have children, people who just want to take advantage of the low cost of housing in Clayton County, and the people who are not law-abiding, respectful, and caring individuals because they are very comfortable living in a county that has a very high crime rate, has major sections of the county that are dirty, filthy, trashy, unkempt, cluttered, with grass that is overgrown, full of weeds and litter, businesses along its major highways, streets, and roads that for the most part are dirty, run down, slimy, unclean, and not properly maintained and cared for.
Again, if the readers of this blog doubt this, all you have to do is take a drive throughout the highways, streets, and roads of Clayton County and observe the people who walk these streets: Tara Boulevard, Upper Riverdale Road, Mount Zion Road, Old Dixie Highway, Highway 85, State Roads 138, 139, 42, and 54, Flint River Road, Webb Road, and Battleroad Road and you will see for yourself.
By The Solution
November 25, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
Can’t we just solve this immediately by escorting all residents of Riverdale, Ellenwood, and College Park to the county line and never allow them back in? We can even put Drs. Trotter and Bowel, I mean Dowell with’em.
By Bad Decisions...Bad Info
November 25, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
Wow!!!! I don’t live in Clayton Co. But the character assault based on rumors is unbelievable. One liners based on who’s facts. Blogs should be out-lawed. In Fayette County we wouldn’t post the garbage you all post about candidates. A person could place “VERIFIABLE FACTS ” all over the place and then you simpletons will forget the facts and go with an unnamed person’s rumor or implanted lie. John Trotter you are byfar the biggest idiot in the land. And the bad part about it is you are actually pretty educated. I guess that makes you an educated fool. Are there Republicans on the blog using their typical negative campaigning tactics? Clayton Co. where are the sensible voters … opps they moved to Fayette Co. You all are in the crux of a county emergency and all you all can do is slander and regurgitate racial epilets about your community leaders. What will it take Lithonia Number 2. You talk trash but don’t talk politics… You coomplain but don’t unite…You rent and don’t buy….How about getting on the blog and charging people to vote .. I guarantee you that Clayton Co. will have the worst voter turnout in the runn-off in the state.All you crabs in a bucket keep pulling down each other and see what happens You will get COOKED! You saw how we banded together to ya’ll out!
By Bad decisions..Bad info
November 25, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
Truth hurts….truth hurts….truth hurts…This blog is a microcosm of your county.. The good being dogged by the worthless, the worthless being uplifted by the triffling and the triffling are just basking in their own ignorance. Where you personally fit I don’t know….If you can’t stand the heat get out the kitchen oh… I FORGOT CLAYTON CO.(CRABS) ARE IN THE POT (bucket) BOILING….
By Bad decisions..Bad info
November 25, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Truth hurts….truth hurts….truth hurts…This blog is a microcosm of your county.. The good being dogged by the worthless, the worthless being uplifted by the triffling and the triffling are just basking in their own ignorance. Where you personally fit I don’t know….If you can’t stand the heat get out the kitchen oh… I FORGOT CLAYTON CO.(CRABS) ARE IN THE POT (bucket) BOILING….
By Clayco blog cleaner
November 25, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Public Enemy, What do you suppose we do? What is your solution. First “you” need a high school diploma , then “you” need gonads, then “you” need a BRAIN….If you are so politically astute ooppss.. “smart” for the brainless. What is your solution? Would you like to run for Chairman or Superintendent. Nooo… you’re just some idiot that is womanless and batteryless and lonely. Gripe, Gripe, no solutions…..Tell us something that makes sense!! “Sold accreditation” they are not even major players with the school board… fool!!!Try going to a board meeting one day… Oh I forgot you’re afraid the last three warrants will be put on you as you walk thru the magnetometer. If you take a bath and put on a clean shirt, security might not wand you as a suspicious person. Go away and stop stinking up the blog…
By Kimberly Allen
November 25, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
FYI
Community forum on gang awareness set for December 4
JONESBORO – A collaborative of Clayton County agencies has joined forces to combat violence among the young people of the county.
The county’s judiciary, in conjunction with law enforcement agencies, the faith based community, local governmental leaders, and Clayton County Public Schools, will sponsor a Community Gang Awareness Forum on Thursday, December 4, 2008. Scheduled to begin at 7 p.m., the panel discussion will take place at Mundy’s Mill High School, 9652 Fayetteville Road in Jonesboro.
The 90-minute forum will feature law enforcement officials, psychologists, social workers, guidance counselors, and representatives from the juvenile court. The moderator for the evening will be Pastor Andre’ Landers from New Birth South Metropolitan Church. Dr. John Thompson, superintendent of Clayton County schools, and Clayton County Chairman Eldrin Bell are expected to share their respective visions for the school district and the county as it relates to the issue of youth violence with a special emphasis on gangs.
This event will serve as a kick-off for a multi-faceted approach to the issue. Additional forums will be held throughout the county. In addition to those appearing at the kick-off event, County Commissioners, Mayors, and Police Chiefs of the cities hosting the additional forums will be part of those discussion panels.
The community-schools task force is issuing an invitation to the general public to attend the series of forums that will be held county wide beginning with the December 4 event. It is hoped that information shared at these programs will make residents aware of the issues confronting Clayton County’s leaders regarding youth violence and will serve as a catalyst for the development and implementation of strategic plans that will deal effectively with gang issues in all communities.
If you have any questions about the kick-off event on December 4, contact Dr. Anthony Smith or John Walker at 770 473-2760.
By Ollie
November 25, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
I think Clayton County has a host of well qualified people who could run this county.
Terry Baskin Andre Landers Bob Hartley Valencia Seay Wanda Wallace Sparkle Adams Dexter Matthews To name a few. Anything is bettter than we have now! More people need to step up but judging by the amount of mud slung in this blog it’s wishfull thinking at best.
By Bull Conner
November 25, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this
“Can’t we just solve this immediately by escorting all residents of Riverdale, Ellenwood, and College Park to the county line and never allow them back in? We can even put Drs. Trotter and Bowel, I mean Dowell with’em”
Tried that, did’nt work.
By WOW
November 25, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
Dexter Matthews? from the NAACP? ok your on drugs
By Public Enemy #1
November 25, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this
Clayton Blog Cleaner, you are an “Idiot”. I tell you how you can help the Students in the County. Call or Write the U.S Education Department, US Civil Rights Department, US Justice Department get all the Federal Agencies you can think of; involved in this Accreditation Issue.
Don’t go to the State of Georgia for anything, they are the ones who got you here. You had a chance to Stand Up with your Black Leaders but you “Failed Them” instead you ran around listen to the white folk now look at what you have! You see everyday now where the white county local governments are stealing and being “Unethical”, however, you don’t see the whites abandoning them do you “Idiot”. Another thing you can do “Idoit”, get as many of those 143,000 registered voter to march on Sonny and the Golden Dome, Daily until you get your children accreditation back.
The Whites told you that your local government used bad “Governance”; can you believe that “Idoit”. If that was “Bad Governance”, what do you say about Sonny being 1.6 Billion Dollars in Debt and the US Government being in a “Recession” and a 307 trillion Dollar Debt. Clayton Blog Cleaner, Negroes like you are “So Stupid”.
Oh, and those you said were no major players in accreditation loss is those exactly responsible, however, I don’t have enough time to tell you about them—- you should know always!!
By Mandingo Vision
November 25, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this
Mr. Charlie, whites have had 413 white Presidents! Why do you still have so many whites still living in “Trailer Parks, working in coal mines,on welfare,living in public housing, and Drugging Up on Crystal Meth?
By pj
November 26, 2008 7:57 AM | Link to this
Public Enemy #1. Do you really think that the problems we have as people are going to be solved by your racist rants? Check him out folks…”You had a chance to Stand Up with your Black Leaders but you ‘Failed Them’ instead you ran around listen to the white folk now look at what you have! You see everyday now where the white county local governments are stealing and being ‘Unethical’, however, you don’t see the whites abandoning them do you ‘Idiot’.” Also this one…”The Whites told you that your local government used bad ‘Governance’; can you believe that ‘Idoit’.” And finally he said…”Negroes like you are ‘So Stupid’.” Where will this person be when he is 75-80 (if the Lord sees fit to grant him breath)? Probably lying on the floor somewhere in the fetal position crying “Oh that white man, oh that white man…if only that white man…”. Please my brothers and sisters, lets not let those that would try and separate us prevail. Remember “…a house divided against itself…”? We are all one race, our Creator recognizes no faces. Most of us want what is right for ourselves, our families and each other. We are to love one another as He loves us. Oh yeah, and Enemy?…when someone disparages you, does it make you want to unite with that person or does it cause a division between that person and you. Think about it man. We are going nowhere fast with your kind of attitude.
By Mr. Charlie
November 26, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this
Mandingo, 413 presidents? It that some African math?
By Jill
November 26, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
Clayton County lost Millions in grant funding. The news keeps getting better. This county needs an enema
By lc
November 26, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
Is this the John Trotter forum? Opps! Never mind! I can tell from the above posts that it is! Goodbye!
By JDR
November 26, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
If Angela Jackson (Clayton County Finance office) doesn’t lose her job, then I would have to ask who’s desk she fits under. Is she even qualified to run a finance department? Who got her the job?
By bs
November 26, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
Hey Man-dingbat try 44 presidents!
By honest
November 26, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
Uniforms may be a step toward combating a gang mentality, but what else is being done?
We have an informal zero tolerance policy against teachers and admins with standards. Don’t have them or you will be in trouble!! How about one that provides resonable consequences to student behaviors that do not meet those standards?
Show me one middle or high school in CCPS with effective discipline in place. Show me one middle or high school that allows students to fail a class if she is not willing to do the work without making the teacher fill out mountains of paperwork first. Until that happens you will not have effective gang-reduction efforts beyond window dressing.
By Look, Observe, and See For Yourself
November 26, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
Good Afternoon Kimberly:
While Clayton County has many youths, teen-agers, and juveniles who are successful, great, exceptional, conscientious, courteous, kind generous, respectful, responsible, resourceful, productive, studious, and are outstanding citizens of Clayton County excelling and achieving in our fine school system, unfortunately there are other youths, teen-agers, and juveniles who are disrespectful, mean, menacing, threatening, defiant, disobedient, aggressive, and are members of ganga or have an affiliation with gang members who have involvement in illegal activities.
Many of these dangerous juveniles who not care about our laws are coming to and moving in Clayton County from the city of Atlanta where they are closing up all of their housing projects with the notorious and dangerous ones such as Bankhead Courts, Thomasville Heights, Hollywood Courts, Bowen Homes, and Jonesboro North and South schedule for closure in 2009.
These criminally minded dangerous, violent, savage, inhuman, uncontrollable, ungovernable, nondisciplined juveniles, youths, and young adults as well as their parents and relatives that are coming to and moving to Clayton County are coming from the city of Atlanta from housing projects which had deplorable, nasty, filthy, dirty, and dreadful living conditions and run down outside living environments also comes from homes that have a breakdown of the family structure and poor income levels which all combined have caused these juveniles, young adults, and teen-agers to embrace crime, criminal activities, gang involvement with additional involvement in illegal activities such as narcotic and drug selling and distribution, and a “gangster” lifestyle as a way of life.
As the city of Atlanta tears down all of their housing projects and build mixed-use live-play-work developments, they are allowing the productive citizens and law-abiding youths, young adults, teen-agers, and juveniles to return to these new and improved communities, but the families and juveniles who are not law-abiding and are participating in unlawful and illegal activities are not allowed to come back and are sent away with their government housing vouchers. Many of them find their way to Clayton County to live with the county’s glut, proliferation, and massive amounts of apartment homes, town homes, trailer homes parks, mobile homes parks, extended stay hotels and motels, and low cost, low end super affordable housing.
These are some of the main reasons that Clayton County has a very high crime rate and have a very high number of “gangster, ghetto, violent looking, and menacing looking youths, young adults, and teen-agers who walk the streets, roads, and highways of Clayton County such as Tara Boulevard, Upper Riverdale Road, Mount Zion Road, Flint River Road, Webb Road, Garden Walk Boulevard, Battlecreek Road, Valley Hill Road, Highway 85, Highway 138, Highway 139, State Road 54, State Road 42, and other areas of Clayton County that have a very high concentration of apartment homes, low-end run down housing, trailer home and mobile home parks and extended stay and low end hotels and motels as these streets, roads, and highways that I have just mentioned.
By Nospin
November 26, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
Fight back. Community Gang Awareness Forum on Thursday, December 4, 2008 - 7 p.m. at Mundy’s Mill High School, 9652 Fayetteville Road in Jonesboro.
By Look, Observe, and See For Yourself
November 26, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this
Clayton County has been greatly impacted in a very negative way with youths, young adults, and teen-agers moving into this county from the dangerous, notorious, and unsafe housing projects of the city of Atlanta, Georgia with the government housing vouchers given to them by the Atlanta Housing Authority.
There are grave and serious concerns from many Clayton County Citizens that the Atlanta Housing Authority under the leadership of Renee Glover is consciously, willfully, and purposefully sending these dangerous, lawlessness, noncaring, disrespectful, defiant, lazy, criminally minded, disobedient, brazen, bold, cocky, intimidation, and menacing youths, young adults, teen-agers, and their parents and relatives to Clayton County to live mainly because they cannot go to Fayette County or Henry County to live because the cost of purchasing a house is much higher and also because these upscale counties do not have the glut, proliferation, numerous, and massive oversupply of apartment homes, town homes, extended stay motels and hotels, foreclosed homes, rental property homes, and low end, cheap low cost super affordable housing that Clayton County has.
These criminally minded juveniles do not care about our laws, rules, regulations, county ordinances, and respectful and right way of living in Clayton County.
They only care about setting up “shop” in Clayton County to continue their criminal enterprises and illegal activites which include drug dealing and distribution, and gang involvement and activities that they did when they were living in the housing projects of Atlanta, Georgia.
The Jonesboro Housing Authority which controls and administers the Section 8 program in Clayton County have their fault in this also because it is seriously felt among many citizens in Clayton County that the Jonesboro Housing Authority are relaxing and not enforcing the rules, regulations, requirements, and laws on how homes in Clayton County can become a Section 8 home and that they are allowing just anyone to turn their home into a Section 8 home without doing the necessary detailed, comprehensive, and exhaustive background check that is required by federal law.
It is no coincidence that as the city of Atlanta, Georgia are systematically closing their dangerous, notorious, and unsafe housing community projects and are building in its place, new, nice, clean, modern, luxurious, beautiful, spacious, and upscale mixed-use-play-work and live development comunnities which are attracting the upscale, well-to-do, working, stable and solid working class families who are highly educated and have money of all races, the crime rate has been going down while all of the criminally minded youths, young adults, teen-agers and their parents and relatives who mainly do not work a stable and productive job and who live and are mainly supported on government assistance program who have made their way to Clayton County to live, the county’s crime rate has risen dramatically, their is more blight, decay, deterioration, trash, litter, dirtiness, destroyed landscaping, grass, and trees virtually all throughout Clayton County, espically around the numerous apartment homes that they live, and worst of all, their is now a dirty, nasty, trashy, low end, low class, negative, run-down, deteriorated, decayed and unclean look to Clayton County.
Again, if you do not believe or doubt what I have written in this blog or think that I am to hard and critical on Clayton County, just look at the numerous apartment homes, low end housing, businesses, town homes mobile home parks, and trailer home parks that line these main highways, streets, and roads (Tara Boulevard, Upper Riverdale Road, Old Dixie Highway, State Road 139 which runs through the city of Riverdale to the exit of Riverdale Road off of I-285, Old National Highway in College Park, Highway 85 which runs through the heart of Riverdale into Fayette County, Flint River Road, East Fayetteville Road, State Road 138, Mount Zion Road at the point where it starts off of Tara Boulevard, Webb Road and other lesser known streets and roads) and you will see the very obvious, visible, and in-your-face proof and evidence for yourself.
By The Facts Are The Facts
November 26, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
Clayton County has a very large and very bad gang problem and it is growing worse as the city of Atlanta, Georgia continues to send all of these criminally minded youths, young adults, and teen-agers who are members of gangs and others who are involved in gangs to Clayton County to live with their Section 8 vouchers.
In the local newspaper of Clayton County that comes out every Wednesday entitled The Clayton Neighbor, this newspsper printed a story in its Wednesday November 19, 2008 edition entitled “Emergency Summit Renews Anti-Gang Effort” where it quoted one of Clayton County’s most popular and effective Juvenile Court Judges Judge Steven Teske as saying that Clayton County’s Gang problem is “huge.”
To be fair, Judge Teske also stated that he believes that the level of gang violence has been reduced in Clayton County, not only through the efforts of schools and law enforcement, but also by churches and other nonprofit agencies.
Also in Clayton County’s daily newspaper The Clayton News Daily, on Wednesday August 23, 2006 (two years ago) they printed an article by the crime reporter Mr. Daniel Silliman entitled “Clayton Gang Problems Among Worst In Metro Atlanta” where the Clayton County Police Gang Intelligence Unit estimates that there are over 1,200 gang members in 47 criminal street gangs with the age range from 13 to 22.
Now in November 2008, Clayton County has well over 1350 gang members in well over 65 criminal street gangs.
The newspaper article also said that Clayton County is second only to Gwinnett County in the number of gangs, the growth rate of gangs, and the number of gang members.
The majority of the gangs in Clayton County are Latino Gangs, Asian Gangs, and Hybrid Gangs which is a gang that doesn’t have an affiliation with a national gang but may be seeking to become affiliated with one. The Hybrid Gangs are your most dangerous ones because they will commit the most violent and henious crimes and criminal illegal activities to gain acceptance with the larger national gang members. Again, the hybrid gangs are currently the most violent and active gangs in Clayton County. The Hybrid Gangs are mostly your black gang members.
Clayton County has had a very serious problem with gangs as far back as the years of the late 1990’s when the first Asian and Latino gangs were present, mainly in Forest Park and as more and more black people moved into the county in the late 1990’s and throughout the early and mid 2000’s, more and more hybrid black gangs came into the county and more were formed, mainly from the teen-agers, youths, and young adults from the housing projects in the city of Atlanta, Georgia.
These black gangs made their presence known in a rash of uncontrolled violence and shootings in the spring and early summer of 2005.
This problem of gang violence, criminal actitivies, and gangster-ghetto-thug-criminal minded thinking of many of the youths, young adults, and teen-agers in Clayton County mainly from the torned-down housing projects of Atlanta, Georgia will continue until our elected leaders in Clayton County who are Clayton County Board Of Commissioner Chairman Eldrin Bell, Vice-Chairman Wole Ralph, Commissioner Sonna Singleton, Commissioner-Elect Gail Hambrick, Commissioner Michael Edmondson, Clayton County Police Department Chief Of Police Chief Jeffrey E. Turner, Clayton County Police Department Deputy Chiefs Of Police Greg Porter and Tim Robinson, Clayton County District Attorney Elect Tracy Graham-Lawson, Clayton County Solicitor General Tasha Mosley, Clayton County Sheriff-Elect Kem Kimbrough, Clayton County State Senators Valencia Seay and Senator-Elect Gail Buckner, Clayton County State House Of Representatives Roberta Abdul-Salaam (74th District), Celeste Johnson (75th District), Mike Glanton (76th District), Darryl Jordan (77th District), Representative-Elect Glenn Baker(78th District), all Clayton County School Board Of Education Members, Chairwoman Alieka Anderson, Vice-Chairwoman Jessie Goree, District 5 School Board Member Elect Ophelia Burroughs, District 2 School Board Member Elect Wanda D. Smith, District 4 School Board Member Michael King, District 7 School Board Member Trinia Garrett, District 6 School Board Member Mary Baker and the School Board Members who will be elected on Tuesday December 2, 2008 to District 1 and 9, Clayton County Juvenile Court Judges Steven Teske, Chief Judge K. Van Banke,and newly appointed Juvenile Judge Deitra Burney-Butler as well as all of Clayton County Superior, State, and Magistrate Judges and also other appointed officials in Clayton County all work indiviually, together, and collectively in their respective areas of expertise to clean up Clayton County, get these youths, young adults, and teen-agers off of the streets and make Clayton County a better, safer, attractive, appealing, and a desirable place to live, work, and play.
By The Facts Are The Facts
November 27, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
I am adding Superintendent John Thompson to the list of elected and appointed officials of Clayton County who along with the other elected and appointed officials listed above should all work individually, together, and collectively to get these youths, young adults, and teen-agers who do not want to go to school to get a quality education and make something out of their lives but just want to continue to carry out their criminal enterprises and business in Clayton County which consist of drug dealing and distribution, gang active membership involvement illegal criminal activities which consist of robberies, burglaries, assaults, and aggrevated assaults, motor vehicle thefts, larcenies, rapes, and even the taking of lives of innocent people, off of the streets of Clayton County and with everyone working together for the betterment, success, and positive productive actions which leads to positive productive results, it is my hope that Clayton County can once again become a very desirable, appealing, attractive, safe, prosperous, and great county where the successful, right, well-to-do as well as the stable together solid middle-to-upper class families, their children, relatives, and friends want to come to live, work, play, have fun, and enjoy what Clayton County has to offer.
By The Facts Are The Facts
November 27, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
The Clayton County Police Department in conjunction with the Clayton County School System are doing truancy sweeps of students who do not go to school but more truancy sweeps need to be done all throughout the unincorporated areas of Clayton County and they need to charge these sorry parents who allow their criminally minded teen-agers with parental neglect and serve them with education neglect warrants like DeKalb County does. Georgia Law states that Educational Neglect is a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail and a $1000 (one thousand dollar) fine.
Clayton County Police Department Chief Of Police Chief Jeffrey Turner said in a newspaper article printed in the Clayton News Daily on Wednesday October 15, 2008 entitled “Clayton Chief Says Economic Crisis Fuels Spike In Crimes” which was written by the crime reporter Mr. Daniel Silliman that “Most burglaries and thefts occur during the daytime and have been attributed to juveniles and older teenagers who aren’t in school.”
It is a well known fact by law enforcement officials that truancy is a strong and positive predictor of serious delinquent behavior which ultimately leads to very serious criminal behavior of robberies, burglaries, motor vehicle thefts, property crimes, gang involvement, participation in illegal criminal activities such as drug dealing and distribution which all the problems that Clayton County has with many of the youths, young adults, and teen-agers that have moved to this county from the housing projects of Atlanta, Georgia with their Section 8 government vouchers where they are continuing their criminal enterprises and businesses here.
By The Facts Are The Facts
November 27, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
The newspaper article that discussed how DeKalb County is dealing with and handling their truancy problem and the parents that do not care and allow their children and teen-agers to commit truancy acts is in The Atlanta Journal And Constitution Newspaper article in its Sunday September 21, 2008 Edition, Metro Section entitled “If Schoolkids Skip, Jailing Of Parents Unlikely.
By The Facts Are The Facts
November 27, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
Clayton County Police Department Chief Of Police Chief Turner stated in the Atlanta Journal And Constitution Newspaper article written by the Clayton County news reporter Ms. Megan Matteucci printed on Monday September 22, 2008 entitled “Crime Gives Clayton One Crisis Too Many” these statements,” Unaccredited schools fuel the exodus from the county and the struggling economy increased foreclosures. Vacant homes exacerbate the crime problem, giving teenagers places to sell drugs and thieves target for break-ins.”
Chief Turner also stated “We used to be able to see kids congregating on street corners. Now they have durg and sex parties in abandoned homes.”
The article also stated that police in Riverdale and Forest Park, Clayton County’s largest cities, said they have seen teenagers burglarizing homes to steal video game systems, plasma televisions, and other pricey electronics.
The article stated that investors are the only people buying properties in Clayton County.
Chief Turner also stated in the article, “I have seen some investors rent to anyone willing to pay including drug dealers. The community is much better when you have people who care about their neighborhood. We don’t want someone who buys a home for the wrong purposes like to sell drugs, push prostitution out of the house, or use it as a stash house for drugs.
The main problem in Clayton County is that over 63 percent of the residents who live here are renters and not owners.
These renters are coming mainly from the city of Atlanta, Georgia from the housing projects using their Section 8 government housing vouchers to not get apartment homes, town homes, trailor homes, mobile homes, but because of the severe drop of home prices in Clayton County and the massive increase in the number of foreclosed homes in Clayton County with a good many of them in very nice neighborhoods, they are able to use their Section 8 housing vouchers to either rent or buy a home in very nice, upscale, stable, and well-clean and well-kept neighborhoods communities and subdivisions.
However, when they move into these very nice communities and subdivision, they unfortunately bring their negative, ghetto, low class noncaring, and apathetic, and lazy attitudes, behaviors, and actions to the community, and in a very short matter of time, their property becomes full of trash, litter, clutter, with dirt stains appearing on their house and other areas of their property, they do not mow the lawn, let grass and weeds overgrow on their property, let their home become run-down and decayed because they do not make the simple, quick and necessary minor repairs and maintainence to their homes which also includes painting, and most of all, if they bring their very dangerous pit bulldogs, chows, or rottweiler dogs, they will chained them to a tree in the back or side yards without a fence, and the once beautiful and well-kept landscaping grass, lawn, and trees will become torn up, chewed up, and a hugh bear empty spot will be in their lawn.
Eventually, the community and subdivision in which they live will become over time a blighted, decayed, deteriorated, nasty, filthy, and grime-filled subdivision because as more of them move in other people who care about their property and who keep up their property will move out.
The community will look like the apartment homes, town homes, trailor home parks, mobile home parks, where the Section 8 people from Atlanta, Georgia live as well as other renters who do not care about their surroundings and maintaining the property where they rent.
Lastly, the subdivision and community will look like the nasty, filthy, dirty, run-down and decayed housing project in Atlanta, Georgia that they are tearing down and where the Section 8 residents once lived.
If you look at the majority of the businesses, apartment homes, strip retail malls, small businesses such as the fast food establishments, check cashing places, liquor and package stores, laundromats, beauty supply stores, pawn shops, bus stop locations for C-Tran, the Used Car Places in Clayton County as well as the Wal-Mart Stores, Kroger and Publix Groceries Stores in Clayton County especially in the cities of Riverdale and College Park, you will areas of trash, filth, nastiness, clutter, and areas that are not properly maintained especially the parking lot areas.
If you do not believe or if you doubt what I have stated, just drive to the neighboring counties of Fayette County, Henry County, Coweta County, and Peachtree City which is located in Fayette County and look at these same businesses in these counties and you will see for youself a striking day and night difference in the parking lot is continuously clean, the shopping carts are always collected, and the insides of these businesses are for the most part much much cleaner, nicer, and more appealing, attractive, and better looking than their counterpart stores in Clayton County.
By Moe, Larry, Curly
November 27, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
The problem with Clayton County is the lack of economic development and jobs. Bring in jobs and people will go to work. If the county government would let small business thrive, they can thrive. Clayton County is very anti small business. The city of Morrow is the worse. I know business owners who violated their lease just to close their business in Morrow and move to McDonnough where they are doing well.
By The Facts Are The Facts
November 27, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
Here are some important facts that all need to know about gangs and some signs that parents and citizens can look for to tell if a youth, young adult, teen-ager or juvenile is a gang member:
POSSIBLE SIGNS OF GANG ACTIVITIES:
Withdrawal from participation in school, family life, church, or other activities compared to earlier behavior.
Habitual lying and denial of problematic behavior.
Major attitude problems with parents, teachers, or those in authority.
Changes in languauge, including the use of gang slang, profanity and hand signs.
Displays money and property that are beyond a child’s income and is evasive about where the items came from.
Use of drugs, narcotics, and alcohol.
New friends that look unsavory, suspicious, menacing and that have a negative influence on the teen-ager or child.
School grades drop, truancies increases and discipline problems become more frequent and problematic.
Appearanace of different looking graffiti and gang-related writing on school books, clothing, and other personal items.
Carrying or possessing weapons such as a gun, knife, switchblade, screwdriver, bat, or club and always carrying a backpack to store these weapons and looking suspicious carrying the backpack.
Gang-related tattoos or use of markers to make temporary tattoos.
Use of one or two colors and refusing to wear certain colors.
Staying out later than usual.
Use of unknown vocabulary(gangs have many slang words).
Desire for excessive privacy and secrecy.
Wearing altered headwear (gang members often put gang information on the inside band of ball caps).
Changing their appearance with special haircuts, eyebrow markings, or tattoos.
Use of gang graffiti on folders, desks, walls, and buildings.
Staying out much later than usual and ignoring the curfews laws of Clayton County.
Purchase or desire to buy clothing of all one color or style.
Sharing the same style, much like a “uniform.”
Bandannas, on the head, arm, or leg.
Gold and Silver grills on the teeth(mouthpieces), beaded necklaces with marijuana or gang symbols attached.
Hats and baggy clothing with gang street names, often done in stylish, colorful, lettering that stands out for all to see.
Everyday wearing of loose, baggy, drooping, sagging pants that continuously falls off of the waist, caps with sports or other identifiable logos on them, white or black long tee shirts that go down to the ankles, black hooded sweatshirts or jackets,that cover the majority of their face. (Note: These youths, young adults, and teen-agers are extremely dangerous and violent because they can easily conceal weapons such as guns, knives, switchblades, and other dangerous weapons that can do bodily harm to an individual.
When you see these youths and teen-agers with this clothing, you stay far away from them because before you know it, they can easily put a gun or knife on you to rob, steal, carjack, or even do bodily harm to you.
If you doubt this or do not believe the extreme danger in what I have stated to you, talk to any Clayton County Police Officer, especially the officers who work in the Gang Intelligence Division of the Police Department, the School Resource Police Officers, or better yet, if you watch the daily evening and nightime news on any of the major news stations in Atlanta, Georgia, pay very close attention when they do news stories on armed robberies at business locations such as banks, convenience stores, and cash cashing places where the robber’s picture and image is captured on their surveillance video cameras and look at what they are wearing. You will see for yourself that they are wearing the exact gang clothing with the baggy, sagging, loose fitting pants, hooded sweatshirts and jackets, sports type cap, and long tee shirts).
By The Facts Are The Facts
November 27, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Here are some information for parents and guardians to keep their youths, young adults, teen-agers, and juveniles from the influence of gangs in Clayton County:
Become involved in your children’s and teen-agers’ life, education, and community.
Know their friends, acquaintances, and people they associate with.
Spend time with them. Let them know that you want to be with them.
Communicate with them frequently on an every day basis so that they feel free to discuss any topic, problem, issue, or situation that they might be facing with you.
Set limits. Don’t let them stay out late or spend a lot of unsupervised time in the streets or on the street corners.
Discipline them firmly, effectively, and fairly immediately when necessary.
Teach and show them by example good values, accountability, and responsibility, including respect for other people’s property, the community in which they live, and other adults especially those adults in authority position like their teachers, police officers, etc.
Monitor the television and cable televsion shows they watch, internet web sites they visit, their myspace or facebook sites, the music they listen to, the music videos they see on television and on the internet, and the video game that they play.
Encourage involvement in healthy activities, like athletics and clubs that are uplifting, positive, and build self-esteem.
Refuse to let them wear gang-style clothing.
Be an exceptional role model for your children, youths, young adults, and teen-agers by living the right way, doing the right thing, and acting the right way by example.
Spend quality time with your children, youths, young adults, and teen-agers. Fathers of daughters should take them out on a father-daughter date night to show their daughters what to positively expect from their date and the right way their date should act and the respect that she should be shown.
Best of all, keep encouraging and saying to your children, youths, young adults, and teen-agers that if they stay on the right path, do the right thing, work hard, study hard, further their education, and live right, they will have a very successful, enjoyable, and productive life for themselves and their families and may one day, be President of the United States Of America.
By The Facts Are The Facts
November 27, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this
The youths, young adults, teen-agers, and juveniles that have come from the housing projects of Atlanta, Georgia to live and go to the Clayton County Schools have already set up their criminal and gang shop, enterprises, and businesses for their crime sprees throughout Clayton County and are starting up more each and every day.
These criminal, gangster, thug and ghetto juveniles, youths, young adults, and teen-agers have embraced fully and completely the gangster-thug-hip-hop hard core rap culture that glorifies violence against their own, misogyny which means the using, misuse , degrading, demeaning, shameful, humiliating, and belittling use of women, thuggishness, and looks at incarceration as a rite of passage to be celebrated and glorified.
The Atlanta Journal and Constitution Newspaper Editoral Page Editor Ms. Cynthia Tucker wrote tow very powerful editorials on how this thug culture are destroying the youths and teen-agers with the first one printed in the newspaper’s editoral page on Wednesday October 17, 2007 entitled “The Ideals Of Thug Culture Are Destroying Black Americans” and another editoral article printed in the editoral page on Sunday May 4, 2008 entitled “Hip-Hop Error: Youth Play Role To Be ‘Gangsta.’
Ms. Tucker mainly states that the hip-hop world’s celebration of savage violence, educational failure, and misogyny has been one of the worst influences on American youth, especially black youth, in decades. If you want to ruin a nation, a society or an ethnic group, persuade its members that the highest form of achievement is committing crimes.
Ms. Tucker also talks about how the lyrics of gangster rap not only reflects the behavior of the music artists who sing and perform it, but it also has inspired it with much of the behaviors, actions, and activities being lawlessness and destructive. She states that the lyrics of gangster rap are paeans (the word paeans means a song of praise or triumph) to murder and mayhem (the word mayhem means violent or damaging action, chaos and confusion. She also states that gangster rap celebrates an outlaw culture that disrespects women, mocks middle-class values and speaks against any cooperation with police in catching criminals.
She also states that the gangsta and thug rap culture is a more powerful and potent negative and malignant force in harming and destroying the Black American youth than racism.
Ms. Cynthia Tucker’s articles are so true in what is happening to the youths, young adults, teen-agers, and juveniles in Clayton County who have embraced and live this way of life.
Unfortunately for Clayton County, more of these gangster-thug-ghetto violent youths, young adults, teen-agers, and juveniles continue to come to Clayton County from the housing projects and ghettos of Atlanta, Georgia to live and go to the schools in Clayton County and all of this and other factors mentioned throughout Kimberly Allen’s blog on “Clayton County Students In Trouble” continue to bring down the quality of life for all who live in Clayton County.
By The Truth Is The Truth
November 27, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this
Unfortunately, the direct, blunt, and disappointing truth is that Clayton County is well on its way to becoming a crime and gang infested, crime and gang filled, crime and gang ridden “ghettorized” , gangster looking, trashy and dirty looking, low-end upscale and exclusive third world county for the renters, Section 8 people, adults, youths, young adults, teen-agers, and juveniles that already make up the majority of the population of this county that is well over 63 percent as compared to a little over 35 percent of residents who are homeowners.
Unless the mass influx of Section 8 people from the housing projects and ghettos of Atlanta, Georgia stops and the mass exodus of stable, middle-class, solid, educated families who once were the backbone and the majority in Clayton County also stops and start to move back into Clayton County and the elected officals and appointed officals of Clayton County start to work individually, collectively, and together for the betterment of Clayton County, its citizens, residents, and homeowners, there is little hope that Clayton County can ever turnaround and stop its downward spiral to become once again, the proud, great, attractive, appealing, desirable, livable, and likable county that people with their families want to again move to, to live, work, play, have fun, enjoy, and raise their children.
By Mandingo's History
November 28, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
To: Look, Observe, and See for yourself, Mr. Charlie, pj and The Facts Are The Facts, You and your white forefathers created the “Ghetto” situation worldwide. Sorry for the delayed response, but I was enjoying the “Holiday” in remembrance of the “White man Invasion and Genocide of the “Red” man and his land (Thanksgiving).
Haven’t I told you before that the white man is the ”Root” of all “Evil”, obviously you didn’t learn anything, so I’ll try again! Eighty years or so ago the white man created housing projects to corral the black man, then he provided government subsidized food, then he imported “Drugs” in the form of heroin, cocaine and other drugs in hope the blacks would “Destroy” himself from within.
PART 1: The Housing Projects was to instill a mindset of “Institutionalization” in the blacks. Institutionalization made the blacks dependent on the white man. It was designed place the blacks at a disadvantage and created a cycle revolving generations of street gangs, infighting and the like.
Example, mother born in the ghetto-projects, daughter in born ghetto-projects, her daughter born in the same with her daughter’s daughter and so on and so forth. The white man created these housing projects on the other side of the “Railroad Tracks away from the whites, thus the term, I from the other side of the “Tracks”.
On that side of the tracks there were little jobs, so the blacks was subjected to working menial jobs like cleaning the whites houses and working the whites cotton fields. However, strong blacks still made it out against all odds.
PART 2: Drugs, the drugs were dumped in the projects to give the blacks a “False Sense of Reality”, a temporary state of utopia, drug dependence, murder your own for drugs, sale your body for drugs and so on and so forth. A few years ago “The Effects of Institutionalization”, moved from the “Inner Ghetto”, and started to affect the whites thus the “White Flight from the Inner City”.
Now the white wanted to re-enter the inner city. So the whites created jobs in the 90’s people worked the jobs, life was good, people had Federal Housing Authority) “FHA Loans” for homes. Remember the whites wanted to re-enter the inner city, so the whites destroyed the “Jobs” moved the jobs overseas.
People loss homes for lack of jobs, the FEDS REPO’d the homes, tore down the projects in the inner city and gave Section 8 vouchers to the occupants to re-locate the populous to facilitate the “white flight back to the inner city”. However, in all the Whites doings they left “Poor White Trash” like you guys to fend for yourselves thus you on this blog crying about the “Effect of Gang Violence and the like”. Did you enjoy that “History or Yourstory Lesson”?
Get use to it, it will take a couple of generations to get over this white man’s error also!
NOTE: Truth is Truth, Your Results is Your Results
By Indian Maiden
November 28, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
I think i am correct in the fact that the Clayton School Board is all Black. Why are you blaming the whites? I am an American Indian and have been through alot but i don’t blame all whites for what some have done. GET REAL QUIT COMPLAINING AND GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT>
By Mandingo's Sadness for the Indian
November 28, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Indian Maiden, you are a white person in disguise wanting to make an excuse for your white husband’s errors. The Truth is a handful rich whites of Clayton County is “Destorying Clayton’s School System with the help some black elected officials suffering from “Slave Mentality and “Post Tramatic Slave Syndrome (PTSS). Once the whites have sucking all the “Money” out the school system, you will get accreditation back. Besides, your plot has been hopeless for hundreds of years.
By Mandingo's Truthful Side
November 28, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
Mandingo,
You really are in another world. It is well documented that negroes are the most self-destructive people in the world. So bad, your own motherland rejected you - didn’t even want you. So they sold you for profit to get you out. But the white man thought they could help the worst of Africa by bringing you to America and teaching you some work ethic. It worked for some. Others it didn’t. You and the African “bad seed” continued to self-destruct as a whole. The projects, food assistance, welfare, and all the above were implemented as support by the white man with hopes to better the life of the unwanted negro. God forbid they would be allowed to wander around America without a place to live, clothes to wear, or food to eat. It would have been chaos with the destruction they would have brought upon their new land. So, yes the white man helped your unwanted. You’re welcome.
Look at it this way, Mandingo: there’s a reason your descendants were slaves. It wasn’t because they contributed something to society, had an education, or prospered where they were. It was because they were failures. Therefore, it was in the best interests of your motherland to sell you and get rid of you. Don’t blame the white man, blame your ancestors for letting you down.
Those who saw what the white man had and partook of his world, his education, and developed a sense to grow themselves, prospered. Those who were lazy and didn’t want to partake of the white man’s world, well… you know the story. Obama partook of the white man’s world and look where he’s at. He prospereth. Drive through Bankhead or Riverdale some day and take a good look at those fools with families who haven’t. Self-destruction at its finest - even with opportunities and assistance.
By Laughing
November 28, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Whomever that Mandigo idiot is needs to be declared insane if he is a real person. Either he is just totally dumb as a stump, or just trying to stimulate conversation. Does sound like Trotter for sure. Its his style. His facts are total hogwash. His posts are good for a laugh everyday however. Don’t let us down now. We will be waiting for another good laugh tomorrow. I wouldn’t miss it for nothing.
By Why'd you ask
November 28, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
Mandingo, you smokin crack again?
By Mandingo Forever
November 28, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
White Boy, your day is coming! Keep aborting your offspring and becoming more dependent of other nations for all your goods. You’re goners for sure! Mandingo and “Family” will live forever, you whites have conditioned us for it. Good Luck Swine! I see you couldn’t “Deal” with the “Real Truth” and is starting to “Distort” and “Downplay” the “Real”.
By Mr. Charlie
November 28, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this
Chill Mandingo.
Unfortunately, your entire “truth” rests on the assumption that blacks don’t possess the morality, intelligence, or will to make sound decisions. It all choices blacks make are pre-programmed by the white man.
I personally don’t believe that, I believe the biggest obstacle blacks have is how to learn how to move on, disown, and cut ties with blacks who think like you. To not be intimidated by your rants and name calling to keep them in lock step with your beliefs.
Blacks need to call out and leave the black racists behind, kind of like the whites have done with white racists.
By Bob Hartley
November 28, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
This is hogwash! There are many well to do blacks in Clayton County. Hard working honest people. They own business and are thriving. They don’t seek handouts from anyone. They are active in their church and community. They wear business suits and some are executive level managers. Not all blacks wear their pants around their knees and listin to rap music. We have to stop lumping everyone together and instead of sterotypes, promote individual achievment. Clayton County is in trouble because the leadership has no vision. They need to focus on rallying the progressive citizens to enact and engage the process.
Now when it comes to politics, there is a void in Clayton County. We are in the midst of white flight. They are taking their business and money elsewhere. In their place, who is creating jobs? Who is opening business in this county? I know of civic organizations that can’t get more than 20 people together for a meeting. Apathy is the enemy! Conquer that and we will start to see results.
By Nospin
November 28, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
Fight back. Community Gang Awareness Forum on Thursday, December 4, 2008 - 7 p.m. at Mundy’s Mill High School, 9652 Fayetteville Road in Jonesboro.
By Nospin
November 28, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this
Fight back. Community Gang Awareness Forum on Thursday, December 4, 2008 - 7 p.m. at Mundy’s Mill High School, 9652 Fayetteville Road in Jonesboro.
DEMAND ACTION NOW FROM THESE OFFICIALS! NO MORE LIP SERVICE! WILL YOUR CHILD BE NEXT TO DIE?
By Mr. Charlie
November 28, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this
Bob, we know that all blacks don’t wear their pants around their knees, as a matter of fact, most blacks don’t.
However those blacks have a hold on the blacks who are successful and acheivement oriented. They call you names and discount your success, and claim to have the corner on “blackness” and say you “sold out”.
The real pity is you let them get away with it. You let them intimidate you and many of you would rather back down, accept their excuses, and let them define what being black is.
As I said before, blacks need to cut ties with the blacks that hold them back.
By go tech
December 1, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this
hey did ya’ll hear about those ga tech gang members beating up those ga bulldogs gang members …..it was awesome!
By color blind
December 1, 2008 7:52 AM | Link to this
If you are a racist think about this…
shut the hell up!