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DEL.ICIO.USElection notes: Sheriff and censure
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Believe it or not, there are residents who don’t realize that we haven’t elected a sheriff yet.
Some assumed that Democratic candidate Kem Kimbrough had already won, however, Republican Jack Rainwater will also be on the November 4 ticket.
According to the Georgia Sheriff’s Association “Specific duties of the office of sheriff today include: providing law enforcement and traffic safety services, operating the county jail, serving as an officer of the court and serving criminal warrants, subpoenas and civil papers.”
With so many choices in the primary, it was difficult getting to know each candidate. Hopefully upcoming debates will further clarify who the best man for this job is. I plan to submit questions from readers of this blog to both candidates, which will be printed during the weeks of October 20 and 27.
What do you want to know most about either candidate? Have you already decided who will get your vote?
Due to space constraints, I’m looking for two to three general questions that can be directed at each candidate. I will also submit one or two individualized questions for both.
Whatever you ask, MAKE IT COUNT! Please make sure to state whether your question is directed at one or both candidates.
On a side note, do you think the board of education should censure Michael King, even though the case was recently thrown out?
As per the Clayton News Daily, “Unless, and until, [King] can show the board he is no longer representing this person, it will continue to be a conflict of interest,” says CCPS General Counsel Julie Lewis. King is still listed as the attorney of record.
Whether you agree with the censure or not, let’s give our new BOE members cr edit. Unlike former board members who routinely ignored board policy and tolerated behavior from colleagues that got us to this point in time, this new BOE are already policing themselves. That is progress and shows SACS some good faith in accomplishing Mandate Number 1.
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By Irrefutable
October 6, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Michael King should be censured for at least as long as he was on the BOE and this lady’s attorney of record at the same time - about two months and counting. For him to say he told her she would have to get another attorney just before he took office is laughable. He should have told her that when he decided to run for the position. It does not speak well of his judgement, but I guess he is just doing what LEE Scott tell him to do.
The BOE has to censure this poor excuse for a lawyer - a legality buffoon. He even talks at the meetings as a lawyer - I guess he is trying to impress —- himself. Too bad no one in that district had the desire to help out the community and give that district a real choice - instead of the two idiots they wound up voting between.
By Mojo Mist
October 6, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
I have some serious concerns regarding Mr. Rainwater’s employment history with APD as well as what appears to be limited P.O.S.T. certification/training. I am not saying he is falsifying his experience and training but am asking him to either verify or offer proof to counter information from a recent open records request that suggests it may be embelished. Mr. Rainwater, please address these concerns with documentation.
Also, Michael King should not only be censured, he should be removed. What is wrong with people from his District? Is there something in the water? Can we not find one ethical candidate from that area who can do something productive?
By Johnson QP
October 6, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
Mojo,
A poster on ‘Give em the Boot’ has posted documentation regarding Rainwater’s APD record. It includes photos of his APD badge, photo of APD badge as a member of the APD taskforce on Missing & Murdered Children, and a copy of a meritorous award from APD for serving on the APD fugitives task force. This is all documented and proves his service record is accurate and true.
Futhermore, one needs at least 480 hours to be a sworn Police Officer anyway. Remember, he worked for APD before computers were commonplace like they are now, but Rainwater has provided sufficient documenation anyway. He has no reason to lie, unlike others.
See for yourself at - http://www.give-em-the-boot.com/smf/index.php?topic=1942.0 and at http://www.give-em-the-boot.com/smf/index.php?topic=2132.0
By Johnson QP
October 6, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
APD qualifications
Police Recruits receive a minimum of 900 hours of classroom instruction/ training at the Atlanta Police Academy and 240 hours of field training. Each recruit must qualify on the Georgia Double Action/Semi-automatic Pistol Course.
http://www.atlantapd.org/index.asp?nav=Career
By Mojo Mist
October 6, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Johnson QP,
Thanks for the information. This is very helpful.
By District 5 resident
October 6, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
I am all for censure. He clearly knew it was an ethics violation. He is quoted as saying that he crossed through the word “not” on the affidavit. Why would you not bring that up?
King has got to go!
By TiredOldTimer
October 7, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
Finally, the BOE did the right thing to keep Thompson for NOW. They were brave, they bit the bullet and did what was RIGHT for NOW.
Yes, Thompson isn’t anyones first or best choice and he was hired poorly. No matter! The BOE put the children first this time by keeping Thompson and by not de-stablizing the CCPS again by having another power vacuum that has previously lead to accrediation probabtion (firing Caldwell, 03) and accrediation loss (firing Pullam 2007. King may have had a point (1), but DUNCAN WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A BETTER CHOICE!
SACS will okay Thompson if the community continues to support this BOARD. Things are looking up as Elget/Bosnic have not said to get rid of Thompson. What’s done is done. They said the people/BOE should decide and they did. People against Thompson had their chance to express their displeasure at the public comment mtg the Thursady prior. Most speakers (5) were for Thompson. TOO BAD you didn’t care to show!
Remember, Thompson’s contract is set to expire June 2009. The Board did the right thing as Dist. 1 & 9 are NOT seated yet. Their rationale was sound! Thompson can also be FIRED at any time, paid to leave, and/or ran off with an expired contact. Plus, GA is an at-will state.
THANK YOU BOE!!!
By Mark
October 7, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
I think the BOE did the right thing for now.
I am looking forward to the questions and answers for the Candidates for Sheriff.
We need experience in that office now no joke!
By Now What
October 7, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Speaking of the Sheriff dept. - lil Vic must be trying to empty out any funds connected to the Sheriff dept by paying for TV spots to tell everyone he is on the job for the next 3 months. The point is where were you Vic the 6 weeks following the election. Even the paper quoting one of your subordinates - He was in the office this weekend. But declined to mention where you were the previoius 6 weeks. Maybe you were learning to be a manager of some apartments down in Florida that Master Headly Lee Scott owns. Hopefully we can sent another Scott crony - Michael King - down to be your roommate. Peace.
By Now What
October 7, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
How come Michael King of the BOE refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance to start the meeting? Oh yeah, he pledged to Lee Scott long ago. (read that - sold out) It does put him into such distinguished company as Noreese Haynes and Sandra Scott. Birds of a feather.
What kind of a moron puts forth a resolution without knowing if there is any support amongst the group - boy got shot down, twice, no support and then censured. Way to go BOE - keep your eyes on the wanna-be lawyer boy. Pc out
By Charlton L. Bivins
October 7, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
Mr. Charlton L. Bivins , Candidate for the 9th District Board of Education, I really am very encouraged by what I have learned and know about you and am starting to believe you’d make an excellent choice for board member. Would you please respond to the following questions?
The purpose of public education is identical to private or home school education. It is to empower and equip the youth or consumer (adult) to become competent and independent as a citizen in their quest for life and the pursuit of happiness. I hate the reference of public education as if it is subordinate to other venues of education!
I had the vision of obtaining a “World Class Education ” prior to Dr. Thompson’s cliche’. World Class education to me is having curriculum that exceed the norm for ALL students (Special ed, at risk and middle of the road students, gifted students)Until we can service all students we can’t reach that status. Private schools deal with only one dimensional students due to recruitment … we can be better than that if we can master all perspectives of all youth that are in the system. This vision includes attracting the most caring and creative staff to achieve an environment befitting world class status. I want other school systems mimicking our ways. I want to visit and emulate other school systems now so we can get the foundation needed. Now, I have not bought into CCPS having a “bad system” this title came with the Accreditation Crisis. Many people speak as if we have a non functioning school system already but i don’t agree.
I touched the school system initially as a volunteer coach. The mentoring and life skills given on the field of play , after practice, on the streets and in the class rooms was my start. And yes, I’ve been to kids classes that were not my own to check on them. As a coach for both boys and girls this was an effective method or contribution on my behalf to the school system. I’d like to think I instilled discipline , hard work, manners, teamwork, conflict resolution, expectations from boys , how to treat a girl , how to show appreciation … just to name a few tenets during my career.
Secondly of course, I was a regular with field day and “class dad” but lets call that my selfish acts for my own kids.
I can list PTA, PTSA, DADS president as well.
My most riveting contribution was with the organization C4-Concerned Citizens of Clayton County Inc. They say that the measure of a man’s character and commitment occurs when he performs during a crisis or when times get bad. Well, I hope I passed the test. I went from nonpolitical right to the political frying pan as I collaborated and supported the school system during these times. I was hell bent on educating this community before thing became riotous. I preached neutrality so that I could benefit from all perspectives. I became an ally for the school system as it pertained to the dissemination of information to over 1000 members. I was afforded meetings with SACS so that we could get a community’s perspective. We lead the charge with directing the community to “activism once educated” equalled positive results. Believe it or not I never planned to get so involved. I was told by one of the local leaders that I had this calling.. well I don’t know about the divine intervention but I don’t know how to go half speed.
Diplomacy… respectful and tact for others
Natural researcher…As Asst. Training Director at Dekalb Co. Sheriff’s Office I was responsible for the Jailer’s academy, I have developed law enforcement programs, supervisory and management programs. I took the initiative to bring Private sector leadership concepts to a law enforcement arena. Stephen Covey, Dale Carnegie, John Maxwell and other leadership experts are now intertwined into the law enforcement mindset. To be a board member a lot of information has to be digested in a short time and if a board member isn’t use to reading and comprehending such masses of information then poor decisions can be reached and that’s a “lose lose” for our kids and school system.
Ethically conditioned…I have had to do the right thing all the time for the past 20 years… I am a representative of a bigger institution law enforcement now …Clayton County School system prayerfully soon.
Research all topics, protocols, bids, policies, and personnel issues to the fullest. Make a conscious decision that is not influenced by NOTHING but FACTS. Act in a manner that is representative of professionalism. Be passionate and concerned about all matter involved in the school system without becoming personally attached. Become a visionary for the school system and see how you can help that 1st grader in his journey. Become a collaborator and create a community affair when the community can be effective. These are some of the things I feel are expected of me as your school board representative
Handling the business of educating our children. Through collectivity and effective decisionmaking, boards make decision! Boards rely on competent staff to develop, nurture and abandon educational programs that affect student achievement.
You got to love what you’re doing.Then you got to make others love what you love. in. A board member then has a responsibility to put their hearts into their job as they aspire to lift that organization up in competence , performance or reputation . Advocacy is all about ownership and the board needs to have the attitude of this is mine!!! And when CCPS is mine, . I’m going to do all I can to make it great.
Image repair Revised disciplinary protocols Community involvement Greater support of teachers and those intimately involved in the educational process Attainment of a “World Class Educational system”
No not at this time . As a watch dog, community activist I am not privy to the internal workings of the board and school system. I feel a need to get in the position, sit back and observe, and then act on those issues that are detrimental to the total process.
I won’t.I believe in hearing people out and often time pure association will not affect my decisions on topics of concern. I am a representative for the 9Th District so any persons approaching me will be respected and considered. I am a very strategic and logical man.
ABSOLUTELY, I will . Earlier we spoke of advocacy, well, this is advocacy in its purest form .”I am but a piece of the puzzle and without me the true picture is still blurred” This is also an example of professionalism. Each board member has a fiduciary responsibility to support all decisions without fail.This builds cohesiveness and credibility for the whole board.
None at this time . As a watch dog, community activist I am not privy to the internal workings of the board and school system. I feel a need to get in the position, sit back and observe, and then act on those issues that are detrimental to the total process.
I believe in span of control and absolute responsibility! Educators and Administrators not board member should make decisions on their crafts. How would you like Lieutenant Bivins picking out your child’s books . I recognize the skill sets and appreciate the expertise. Boards select competent superintendents that select competent teacher that have the knowledge to select curricula and textbooks for the students This should be the normal pecking order.
Language barriers , cultural barriers, student enrollment,
Meeting AYP (Annual Yearly Progress)
NO to all…
None!!
By Committee To Elect Charlton Bivins
October 7, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Meet The Candidate Night Charlton L. Bivins Thursday, October 9 6:00 - 8:00 PM Rocky’s Pizza 2262 Lake Harbin Road (Morrow
Hope to see you there!
By Committee To Elect Charlton Bivins
October 7, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Meet The Candidate Night, Charlton L. Bivins, Thursday, October 9, 6:00 - 8:00 PM, Rocky’s Pizza, 2262 Lake Harbin Road, (Morrow)
Hope to see you there!
By Black Rain
October 7, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
Looks like we got our District 9 taken care of. District 1 - get on the ball.
By stanthefireman
October 7, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
Well said Charlton !!!!!!
By Michael Kinge
October 7, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this
The decision by the BOE was exactly what was needed. Right now we are in the 4th quarter and we do not have time to go out and look for a new quarterback and teach him the playbook.
If the board had decided to follow the recommendation of King, then it is for certain that Clayton County would NOT get their accreditation back. Kings tactics and recommendation was reckless and dangerous for the Clayton community.
It is obvious to many that KING has a person agenda and vendetta against Thompson. Meanwhile, BOE keep meeting those mandates and continue to work for our kids.
By GEORGIA VOTERS RIGHTS VIOLATOR STATE
October 7, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this
Feds question Georgia’s checking of new voters
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Tuesday, October 07, 2008
Federal officials have asked Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel to investigate whether state election officials are improperly checking citizenship of newly registered voters. Social Security Commissioner Michael Astrue wrote to Handel, and election officials in five other states.
In his letter to Handel, dated Friday, Astrue said the federal Help America Vote Act requires his agency to help states verify citizenship of some newly registered voters. The agreement requires SSA to verify the last 4 digits of Social Security numbers of registrants who do not have acceptable state identification, such as a driver’s license.
But, the letter says, the agency has received nearly 2 million requests from Georgia since Oct. 1, 2007. “Such a volume appears to be much greater than one would expect, given that states of comparable or larger populations have a significantly lower number of verification requests,” Astrue wrote to Handel.
Handel’s spokesman Matt Carrothers said they received the letter Monday. “We’re not aware of any problems,” Carrothers said, but added that county registrars forward new registrants’ information to the Department of Driver Services, which then sends the names to the Social Security Administration for verification.
A letter Handel’s office sent to county registrars in September said all new registrations must be checked through the Social Security database. The need to verify citizenship was a primary reason why registrars were told that Georgians could not register to vote and cast an advance ballot on the same day.
In his letter, Astrue says, “if your state’s election officials are requesting verifications not covered by the verification agreement, we ask that you bring your procedures into conformance with your legal obligations.”
The Georgia deadline to register to vote in the Nov. 4 general election was Monday. While Astrue said they have received nearly 2 million requests for verification from Georgia since Oct. 1, 2007, the state’s voter rolls have increased by about 450,000 voters, according to data from Handel’s Web site.
Look at that would ya! Now Clayton’s Elite will still say , “we don’t have a VOTERS RIGHTS problem here! ” REAL IS REAL!!!!
By ESPN Analyst
October 7, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this
Michael King did not once mention the kids of Clayton County; Michael King did not once acknowledge the fact that he is for the kids of Clayton County; Michael King has a personal agenda and it is bigger than the BOE; He is using the BOE as a launching pad for political power in Clayton; Michael King is POISION and anyone who believes in this man and his intentions for the school system in Clayton County, they are in for a real surprise; He is a vigilante who wants things done his way or no way; It was obvious that when he was elected he called meetings without talking to his fellow board members, and according to the reports, he still does not interact with them on matters. This man is a threat to destroying the system, and he is quick to point out problems BUT no solutions. KING SHOULD BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY!!!!
By NEW ACCREDITATION GRADS
October 7, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this
I have learnt that success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has overcome while trying to succeed. I single-handedly got the children of Clayton County another ACCREDITATION!!
While all of you were BERATE and CRITCIZING the children over “Grown Folk Business”. On this forum trying to formulate “PUBLIC OPINION”. Now, who needs SACS?
NOTE: While you’re distracted by BOE silliness, those folks are ripping off the 60 million surplus!
By I did somethingACCREDITATION
October 7, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this
Nothing gives one person so much advantage over another as to remain always cool and unruffled under all kind of pressures and circumstances. Clayton County has been granted ACCREDITATION from Georgia Accrediting Commission (GAC). You know why? GAC don’t play politics with children lives like Mark Elgart and SACS.
There’s only one reason Mark Elgart went after Clayton and we all know what that is! If he could isolate South Dekalb from North Dekalb he’d go after them too. For a nongovernmental entity SACS has too power. It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.
By Something in the Water
October 7, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this
Individual rights are not subject to a public vote; a majority has no right to vote away the rights of a minority; the political function of rights is precisely to protect minorities from oppression by majorities (and the smallest minority on earth is the individual).
You can’t force people to vote the way you want them to vote. You wanted Kem—you got him. Kem is on a better ticket; masses will show up and show out on NOV 4. Stop talking! The Sheriff’s game is over!
BEWARE! King plus Bivins plus Bob Hartley’s horse on the board “Aleika will be thoroughly AMAZING and pre-2004 CCBOE in nature!—RECALL NOW-or Call the Sonny
By Get Real
October 9, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this
You show your ignorance to suggest Alieka, Bob and Bivins are similar to King in their thought process. Mr. King has a personal agenda. He knew he was violating policy because he “scratched” out his ethics affidavit. Mr. King is playing games. Alieka is one of the sole voices of reason on the board. Mr. Hartley has proven his concern for the schools and Mr. Bivins worked with Mr. Hartley for the past year with the Concerned Citizens organization. If you are trying to suggest that they are the problem then you must be on crack
By Kimberly Allen
October 9, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
There will be a forum held TONIGHT at the for DISTRICT 1 School Board Member Candidates!
The League of Women Voters and the Psi Alpha Omega Chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Inc. will co-host a forum for District 1 school board candidates.
The following candidates will be in attendance tonight: Pamela Adamson, William Callier, Whayne Clark, Dominick Crea, Wendy Labat, Maggie Martinez and Melody Totten.
Candidates Jean Brown and Paulette Stewart have declined to participate, and Cleopatra Ballyntyne remains undecided.
This forum will be held from 6:30pm to 8:00pm TONIGHT at the Lovejoy Community Center, 11622 Hastings Bridge Road, Hampton. The forum is free and open to the public.
Hope to see you all there! Have a great day Clayton!
Kimberly Allen
By Oh please
October 9, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
That solves it!! The know-it-all spouting all the racial rhetoric is none other than Norreese Haynes (see By I did somethingACCREDITATION). Wasn’t Norreese Haynes that was screaming for the county to apply for accreditation elsewhere? No, you idiot, you didn’t do anything! GAC accreditation just means that Clayton’s diplomas are considered accredited for Georgia schools and colleges. Students wanting degrees out of state are still out of luck! You didn’t do anything, but serve yourself.
By Ba da bing
October 9, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
To- Oh Please You must be right about the Noreese blog entry. Sad tho - after several years of hand-holding and tutoring in the tiny MACE office - John Trotter still canot teach this young man proper grammer - Special Ed kids can learn - they just need determination and the proper help.
Armed with a dim wit and the willingness to do and say anything Trotter put in front of him, Noreese helped hurry our system to the place we find ouselves now.
By Clayton Taxpayer
October 9, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
By I did somethingACCREDITATION
You did nothing! As Oh Please pointed out, GAC accreditation might help with Georgia colleges (although I believe Sonny passed something-or-other that would allow those students to be accepted at Georgia colleges anyway), but it means nothing outside of the state.
You can say all you want about SACS, but it’s like complaining about the President. He has the power and so do they, not just in Georgia but nationwide. They are highly respected by the NATION, and they are the authority when it comes to accreditation.
Keep trying - maybe you’ll come up with something useful.
By Epiphany
October 9, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
Alieka, Hartley, Bivins and King, “Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are.” People that really matters in Clayton County knows your character and reputation and it not virtuous. You’ve hoodwinked a few, but you’re transparent to most. This bunch will prove FATAL. Watch the clash of attitudes abound. C4 is one of the reasons we lost accreditation, it showed disharmony in the community and put a black face on it. This was exact effect your pale friends wanted, unbeknown to you. Despite that the recipe for perpetual ignorance is: be satisfied with your opinions and content with your knowledge. You got to be very careful if you don’t know where you’re going, because you might not get there. This is like deja vu all over again.
By Accreditation Gone
October 9, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
C4 popped up and did nothing. now bivins wants to be on the board. careful voters he is in the bed with thompson- the man who is getting the money but could not save our acreditation. all those meetings and 2300 pages.the other members of the board are off track on our accreditation. WE need SACS and it is simple for the board to do what is necessary to get them back. stop all the vindictiveness against your fellow member, Mr. King. He seems to be the only person who understands Roberst Rules of Order. Your latest act of censuring him and brining your concerns to the public shows discord. that lawyer needs to go back where she came from. thompson needs to do the job hired for and go on.
By What Now
October 9, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
Glen Dowell and John Trotter - ya’ll decide to do something else at lunch beside lunch with Earl and Rev Bourbon. A lunchtime blog perhaps.
Your buddy Lee Scott’s pit bull Mr. Michael King is as big a jack( ) as Noreese -just more educated. Too bad he does not know how to use it. Cannot think for himself any better than N.H.
C4 did not show disharmony - but harmony -amongst several parent groups - reflecting the fed up parents and students for their education. They realized the fools you were making of the black community and how your friends among the BOE did so much damage. Are you proud that in the days after Clayton lost accreditation- there were highschoolers weeping over the their prospects of a future, one in which you so gleefully participated in the destruction . Ever heard of KARMA - it ain’t purdy.
By Sick of it all!
October 9, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this
“None are so blind as those who will not see!’
We can all sling as much mud at each other as we want but it still doesn’t negate the fact that there is something in Clayton County that the powers that be want! The attack on Clayton began long before the accreditation issues began. Why was Clayton constantly on the news ? Did not crime happen anywhere else in the metro area ? Why were so many former Atlanta project dwellers forced upon the people of Clayton county when the Atlanta City Projects were torn down ? Why did Eldrin Bell choose Clayton county to snake his way into when Dekalb wouldn’t give him even a tiny foothold ?
What we in Clayton county have experienced is a domino effect created by those who can truly see the big picture-land in Clayton is valuable. We’re relatively close to downtown and have the airport in our county. For those who work in the business sector, it would be the perfect place to live. It especially would it the land could be gotten cheaply. What’s the best way to do this—run out those who already are inhabiting it!
Ask yourself some simple questions. Other school districts in Ga came close to losing accreditation and according to some sites, a district in Missouri did lose it’s accreditation in 2003. Why wasn’t there a media surge on those places? Why did only Clayton county receive NATIONAL coverage?
Everyone wants to portray Clayton county as a county of black baffoons. Why put multiple mixed us communities here or the Lovejoy rail line ? Heck, even the Starbucks is still in Hampton and we all know they only stay in areas with certain economic criteria!
And as far as Michael King is concerned, give him the boot. His actions do nothing to display that of a highly educated lawyer. Just look at him in comparison to Mr. Dominick Crea. Talk about night and day—and I am not referencing color!
By Right Turn Only
October 9, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this
DUMMING DOWN OF CLAYTON COUNTY, “One man cannot hold another man down in the ditch without remaining down in the ditch with him. There are two ways of exerting one’s strength: one is pushing down, the other is pulling up. Every school district in the nation has accreditation—except your!
All you critics crying take accreditation got your own kids caught in that web. You are being governed by people who don’t even hold political offices, you so sad. You want accreditation? You can have everything in life that you want if you just give enough other people what they want.
Give all your money to those four ole white lawyers, Dyane Simmons, the retired Clayton teacher and Elgart and you’ll get accreditation back instantly. If they hold their foot on your child’s neck long enough, you will submit!
ALERT! The best way to silence Michelle—I mean Michael King is to place a Burlap Sack over that ugly mug.
By whatever
October 9, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this
Dear Sick of it all Yes there was a School district in Missouri that lost it’s accredition in 2003. BUT what you failed to mention is that SACS was not the agency to revoke the accredition but the State of Missouri was. With the ability to google the half facts you post maybe you should be a little more careful of your facts. The reason there was not a big media frenzy is the accredition was not lost from the agency that accredits most the of schools but because the State took over before SACS was forced to step in. Speaking of stepping in. You might want to clean the BS off your shoes. It Smells to high heaven.
By You're Under The Microscope
October 9, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this
Bob Hartley, David Barton, Charlton Bivins, Larry OKeefe, Elgrin Bell, Eddie White and Rod Johnson sold their children and your children accreditation to the Clayton Elite for a pennies on a dollar.
These people all ran crying to Elgart showing their weakness. Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Pride gets no pleasure out of having something, only out of having more of it than the next man.
Few things can help an individual more than to place responsibility on him, and to let him know that you trust him.” “Character, not circumstances, makes the man.”
By Morrow High School Pride!
October 9, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this
I am not a fan of Bivins but whoever else is running in Dist. 9 needs to get their message out and fast! I went to the Mega Town Hall Meeting and feel we were fed a bunch of fluff and filler, no real meat and potato’s. I heard politician after politician get up and grand stand. I was disappointed to say the least. I would have liked to see Hartley run for that seat but for whatever reason he chose not to. King is another embarrassment to us. He will eventually fade out like the rest of the morons we have been cursed with in Clayton County politics. It’s sad to see the children suffer when they are the ones who did nothing wrong but, what goes around, comes around. Karma is a b***. I want to see more of the other candidates in District 9 before I make a decision about whom to vote for.
By Hartley the County's Champion
October 9, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
Bob Hartley is so dumb, he got caught up in the Mortage Melt Down before it was a meltdown. Now he’s a apartment dweller!!!
By What Have You been Smoking
October 9, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this
I do have to laugh at the poster who states that Clayton County Land is valuable. What with all the people from the Atlanta projects moving here, A sheriff that has cost us millions of dollars, A school board so corrupt that we lost accreditation,High crime, Drugs and the general stupidity of the voters. Businesses , and people and industry are fleeing the county in record numbers. About the only thing Clayton county is going to be good for is to make it one giant projects. Who in their right mind would want to invest their business, money, life or livelihood to Clayton County? Nobody that is who. So in my book the value of Clayton County is absolutely zero
By Sit your @ss Down
October 10, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this
Under the microscope is Sandra “I won’t go until you get me a car and a job” Scott. She is so mad at being given the boot that she wants to point fingers at people who atleast stood up to her and tried to make a difference, with the exception of Rod “I’ll hire a child molester if I want to/Reverand Reject” Johnson.
By www.give-em-the-boot.com
October 10, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
www.give-em-the-boot.com
The three clowns are not Larry, Curly & Moe
But
Synamon, Sandra & Sonna!…One down, two to go! Let’s give em the boot.
We are looking into the illegal hiring of Commissioner Sonna Singelton with influence of Ex-Board Member Sandra Scott with the Clayton County School System. It appears she has been all over the place since leaving Victor Hill’s office as his “Press Secretary”
By WTF?
October 10, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
I do hope “what have you been smoking” doesn’t live in Clayton county, we’ve got enough negativity around here. As a lifetime resident I don’t plan on giving up my property which is valuable to my family to the rejects from Atlanta & the idiots running things right now. Giving up shouldn’t be an option for anyone who owns a home or propert in Clayton county.
Just wanted to say great job moderating last night Kimberly! It was nice to meet you in person.
By LC
October 10, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
Welcome to the mud slinging pit! Keep your head down!
By CBiv for Dist. 9
October 10, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
For those that say that C4 or Bivins didn’t try to do something to educate the citizens … I’m sorry, I’m trying to do more.. For those that say that coolaborating with any and all persons involved to make sense of the accreditation crisis so that the citizens could benefit from the many perspectives and research… I’m sorry….
For those that say that a grassroots organization like C4 that was made up of initially of mad parents and finally strategic planners is a bad thing I apologize …..
For those that stayed up in the weee hours of the night planning and meeting and researching caring about this community and BEGGING people to recieve factual info about their schools and children I applaud you… ooppss where are you… ohhh… its C4!!!!
I apologize for getting caught up , beat down, threatened , and ignored when I and the C4 family tried to spread the good or bad news of this county.
I apologize for neglecting my daughters for 50,000 other girls in this county in the name of helping this county.
My wife still regrets the charge that she put on me to “Do something” when accreditation crisis hit. Because as a man, I’M PROTECTIVE OF HER AND THE WOMEN IN MY HOUSE AND I DID SOMETHING.Did you .. those that criticize and batter. Did you? Let’s stay positive , proactive and productive.
By Synamon Baldwin
October 10, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
Give-em-the-boot, Venemous, hateful and mean-spirited you need to be given the boot. You bring absolutely no value to intellectual exchange. Lies, innuendos, and attacks are your life blood. You have sought to dumb down clayton county. Your obsession with Sandra Scott is sick. Let it go! She is not on the board any more. Focus should be on getting our accreditation —duh!
You are hiding behind this blog that is registered in another country because you are weak and incapable of truth. This enables you to lie,lie,lie. Throwing rocks and hiding your hand is proof of your inability to man up.
I will be here after you are gone.
By give-em-the-boot.com
October 10, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
Synamon
Shut your pie hole up! You are the pathetic know nothing want to be something but your nothing more than a uneducated, small town country negro with the mental capacity of a maggot. Go find some dead meat and feast. This county is tired of people like you and we won’t tolerate your kind anymore. The boot community will make sure you and those you support (Cough) (Cough) will ge the boot. How dare you say we are a hateful and mean spirited crowd? Why because we see pimps and snake oil pitchers like yourself a mile away? You are pathetic! Go get a job and stop pimping your blind and misguided members.
By Synamon
October 10, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
I must apologize to the members and supporters of CCWHOA who have asked me not to respond to such ignorance. Please bear with me this one last time with regards to this blogger.
There are comes a time that we have to call a spade a spade. Give-em-the-boot is actually one person who has a personal vendetta against selected citizens. The lies that are espoused must not be allowed to stand.
Now as for you give-em-the-boot, You proved me right with your illiterate response. Spewing out words like, negro, pimp and maggot. You are incapable of intellectual exchange. the good thing is that every time you blog more citizens on this blog get to see you for what you are worth in our community - nothing. What this county is tired of is people like you throwing rocks and hiding your hand. yes you are mean-spirited and hateful you prove that every time you touch the keyboard. take the trash back to your own blog. I am finished with you. Again my challenge is still out there, any time any place we can dialouge. You do know what that is? come on out of the closet and face me. I double dare you.
By Whopper Jr.
October 10, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
Hmmm,
Follow the money people! Follow the money….
Anyone who cannot be trusted with money, cannot be entrusted with anything.
Ask yourself, why are all the charletans in GA coming on down enmasse to Clayton County?
Follow the money people! Follow the money….
By Please show support
October 10, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
The Impressions in Concert
Clayton County Performing Arts Center,
2530 Mt. Zion Pkwy., Jonesboro
Performances by Rhythm and Blues singer Larissa Holiday, and jazz group “Rhapsody N Blues” are also scheduled. And, there will be a youth talent competition. Tickets cost $25 for general admission; $35 for reserved seating, and $75 for V.I.P. seating. Tickets can be purchased through Ticketmaster at (404) 249-6400, or through the Performing Arts Center box office at (770) 473-2875. A portion of the proceeds from the concert will fund scholarships for Clayton County students.
By PHJ
October 10, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
The blogger using the name Give-em-the-boot.com does not represent that web site.
By Sgt Rock
October 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Ms. Baldwin, I can assure you and the other readers that the posts stating they are from Give em the boot are indeed NOT from our website. On behalf of the individual I offer my humble apology for any hurt it may have caused. Readers, please be aware that it it very simple for a poster to create any identity they wish. that being said, there are those that will throw Hate-Bombs under an assumed name (we have all seen that happen here allegedly from MACE and Trotterites). You and I have dialogued in the past and I would be the first to mention that on most issues, we are in complete agreement. Geve em the boot is a place for all people to voice their opinions (and be ready to defend them) to the community. Several that post on the Boot do not or cannot back-up their opinion and therefore never come back to post again. So be it. The Boot was created only after the News-Daily shut down their forum cutting off the voice of the People from unfettered opinion. The Boot has been given many labels, some good, some bad. At the end of the day the boot has been a focul point of opinion and I must say, 100% correct when it came to the uncovering of the corruption, graft and criminal activity in the county. The Boot is the only website that posts ACTUAL documents detailing court hearings and investagative findings (These documents tend to show that what is reported in the news is inaccurate or a blantant lie perpetrated by those whose names appear in the documents). Embarrassment is a powerful tool! It is the only PLACE that whistleblowers can come to share whats going on inside our local government. Anything read on the Boot should not be believed as fact. It is first Opinion of registered users, often backed by actual documentation. Many news media outlets use the Boot as a breaking source of news for follow-on stories. Please don’t construe the boot as a place of factual information but as a source of community opinion. I have a great respect for you Ms. Baldwin, the work, time and effort you put into the community. I think we have the same goals, just a different approach to achieve them. Most Sincerely, Sgt. Rock
By Black Rain
October 10, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
Under the microscope - JT or GD or SS - you are all fools. JT, the grand leprechaun, of Clayton county - GD, the “have you seen my racist website lately” moron - SS, the “if it is on a blog it must be true” idiot. Just Go Away.
Synamon - Sandra Scott is gone, true. What does bother people is your ardent support for her in the face of overwhelming evidence of her stupidity,ineptitude and downright devilishness. It shows a flaw in your character and judgement and we are left to wonder if your judgement is any better on the people you have chosen to support in the last two races for BOE.
Mr. Bivens - Well said. Keep on Keeping on. Hang in there and do what you know is right. Good Luck.
By FACTS CHECKER
October 10, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
Some of you guys posting on this forum are such idiots. Bivins falls in that category, you say; begging people to receive Factual Info, you ignore Facts. If you don’t believe your accreditation loss is an issue of white people and money! Then your name shouldn’t be “Bivins” but “Dumbfounded.” Tell me something? What was the results of you and your Strategic Planners? Son, there is only one viable plan that will retain accreditation. HINT: Give the whites back the money those simpleminded former board members took. Tell me a better plan. Logic should tell you if GAC can give CC accreditation, SACS should easy. Did you see the comments made by GAC about CC schools? Amazing huh! It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this; based on this forum that theory is false. See past your bubble nose. Some people have a gift for stupidity, an almost mystic ability to withstand any form of logic.
By raja
October 10, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
Black Rain
Don’t forget her support of Leslie Miller-Terry.
The case in the news about the airport incident with Mr Walls show her incompetence.
By Black Rain
October 10, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
I was wondering if her finally taking this case forward was just to embarass Eldrin Bell. I guess her marching orders come from Lee Scott too. Lee must have it going on - 2 subserviant women in his life. MONEY talks. YO!
By Synamon Baldwin
October 10, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
Black Rain you are falling in the category of sheer ignorance. My ardent support is for my community. One person does not determine the quality of life for me. It is unfortunate if that is the barometer that you use for yourself. You seem to be stuck in the past - move forward. It is your character and judgement that needs to be examined. Why do you continue to bellyache about me? You and your cohorts have a serious problem anytime you must come on this blog and try to impact the voters with false accusations and verbal attacks. You can better serve the community by focusing on your own candidate or candidacy and do not worry about who I support. Sounds like someone is running scared.
By BaBam
October 10, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
to FactsChecker
Obviously the facts mean nothing to you. Your grasp of the recent history of this county is highly suspect. Your racist tendency show that you do little more that regurgitate the B.S. others of your ilk throw out. Your mistaken ideas that if you say something enough times the black electorate thinks it is true - just does not work. The likes of you and your ilk needs to know their day in Clayton is done. It will at least be refreshing to see the victim mentality slowly go to its death after OBAMA wins. This is something you all should think about - victim mentality going away cause, now - “tha brother made it”.
By Oh please
October 10, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
I’m willing to bet that FACTS CHECKER is also Still A Victor Hill Supporter. And probably in truth, it is all Glenn Dowell.
By CBiv Dist. 9
October 10, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
The impact on the community is immeasurable being we were a grassroots organization . If we reached 1000 people which we accomplished easily plus that then we’ve done our part in society.
To Facts Checker ……..Accreditation affects all. Where did you get the notion otherwise. ..hhhmmmmmm What did you do in the fight to regain accreditation. As a normal citizen seeking truth and effectiveness C4 did the best we could with the funding we had (very little). What was your role in the debacle.. I know you did more than read the blog right.. I know you told 1000-50,000 people what you learned .. I know you were civil and decent in your intentions… I know you are an advocate for positive propoganda right… I know you live in the same county and wish sucess on the very system that will educucate your children and mine. I know you believe in either being part of the problem or part of solution ..Right…
By Black Rain
October 10, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
Synamon - I knew you would not leave blog - you are toooo easy. The point was that you judgement is suspect because of YOUR history. That is not a false accusation it is an observant opinion. Re-Read it and maybe you can grasp what was being said. I would oppose your candidates as long as somebody better is around. Just the same way I would support anyone running against a LEE Scott flunky or a John Trotter puppet. Your best bet is to get off this blog and work on your guy’s campaign. But then again - you are just toooo easy.
By Oh please
October 10, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
Mr. Bivens, don’t waste your breath or your efforts on him. He will be sure to include you in his racial rantings at the end of the day just before the blog closes so that you have no chance of responding.
Mr. Bivens, I want to thank you and C4 in all your efforts. C-4 was instrumental in helping me choose the candidate for my district. Do not let those seeking to abuse the media outlets for their personal gain dissuade you from your efforts. People like you will be what changes things for the better. Real change does not come over night. One person alone cannot correct the damage to society. We all have to work together to achieve our mutual goals.
By Synamon Baldwin
October 10, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Sgt. Rock thank you so much I appreciate you and your words. I sincerely apologize for responding to that imposter. Thank you even more for taking the time to get me straight. “God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them.” Hebrews 6:10 Peace and blessings Synamon
By Ezra
October 10, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Synamon,
Who appointed you goddess of this blog?
By SynamonBaldwin
October 10, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
Oh now I am the goddess of this blog? wow you people are just unbelieveable. Peace Out!
By District 9 Resident
October 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
I usually do not post anything on the blogs but I’m in District 9 and feel that my opinion counts. I actually met Charlton Bivins and find him to be a good man. He has coached, mentored, and supported our children. He has been active in the community. What has the other candidates done in and for the school and other children in the community. I too believe in facts and the fact that Mr. Bivins has proven that he cares about children shows that he is the right person to represent District 9 on the school board.
To Mr. Bivins: I wish you the best and may God bless you. I pray that God protects you from the evil that lurks all around.
By Black Rain
October 10, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
Her is another one.
Isaiah 9:16 For those who guide this people are leading them astray; And those who are guided by them are brought to confusion.
By Ezra
October 10, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this
Synamon,
God don’t like ugly.
You are the one not to believe. You’ve lied so many times on this blog I’m surprised Kimberly hasn’t been hit by lightning because of you.
You wouldn’t answer the question about your job with the NAACP and the felons. Will you answer this one? Here goes……how much money do you get from Clayton County government for your involvement on “boards”?
By Black Rain
October 10, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this
Sorry -typed too fast. I do so dislike those who use scripture to boast on themselves.
Here is another one. Synamon
Isaiah 9:16 For those who guide this people are leading them astray; And those who are guided by them are brought to confusion.
By FACTS CHECKER
October 10, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this
Bivins, you did answer the questions. Going to church doesn’t make you any more a Christian than going to the garage makes you a Car. There are two kinds of failures: those who thought and never did, and those who did and never thought.
Earlier I introduced to you simple logic and reasoning, however, keep the answers. “To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy.
Think about it, you’ll get! ” Remember what a founding father said “A man that read nothing at all knows more than a man that read nothing but the newspaper.
By VOTER BEWARE
October 10, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this
All you guys who say Clayton County don’t have a HISTORY OF DISCRIMINATION and BALLOT BOX PAMPERING
UPDATE: Some of you are asking how the secretary of state’s office knows all this.
Because Georgia is a state covered by the Voting Rights Act, with a history of racial discrimination, officials are required to take into account whether their actions affect the ballot rights of minorities.
To do that, the race and sex of all voters is noted upon registration. This is the only demographic information obtained and, since voters aren’t required to register by party, the only clue that analysts have about who is voting.Handel’s office: 10/10/08. Handel’s office got SUED TODAY. Victor will SUE and Annie Bright and Handel’s Offices—-BALLOT BOX PAMPERING!!!
By phred schwartz
October 13, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
wow Marta, somebody’s PMSing big time aren’t they? I’ve read some foul ignorant stupida$$ crap on this blog but yours wins the Big Blue Ribbon, First place girl friend! You sound a lot like John Trotter on a good day. None of your spew has anything to do with the topic, but duh, what would one expect from John or his cronies? Take a chill pill dude. Better than that, take a whole bottle nad OD. Do us all a favor.
By Ethic Laws Only Apply to Blacks
October 13, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Sarah Palin violated Ethic Laws of the U.S of America. Please Sonny any Dubya remove her from the Governor of Alaska.
By Marta Sux
October 13, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
By Ethic Laws Only Apply to Blacks October 13, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this Sarah Palin violated Ethic Laws of the U.S of America. Please Sonny any Dubya remove her from the Governor of Alaska.
The above statement is just another illustration of why Clayton County is the outhouse that it is. You people must feed directly from the bowl that overfloweth with urine and feces.
By Marta Sux
October 13, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
Look IDIOTS…stop crotcheting your wigs from yarn.
By phred schwartz
October 13, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
Hey Marta, sux is spelled SUCKS like you. Kimberly? If you read this please have Marta removed from this blog. This kind of profane ignorance is not needed or desired. It serves NO useful purpose other than to grandstand the ignorance of one angry, pathetic, useless piece of dog squeeze, who can’t spell. It’s akin to fighting a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
By District 5 resident
October 13, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
phred schwartz,
I agree with you. Marta Sux has got to go. I filled out a comment removal request an hour ago. Why is this person still allowed to post such profanty?
By District 5 resident
October 13, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
Kimberly, Why is AJC still allowing Marta Sux to post? The profanity is not needed.
By HLS
October 13, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
Kimberly - please do us all a favor and delete the comments above from a user called Marta sux. These are vile comments. Decent people do read these blog and should not be subjecte to such filth.
By ba bam
October 13, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
Kimberly - since this kook is such an obvious idiot, now might be the time to do the old - IP address lookup and find just where this moron is sending from.
By HLS
October 13, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
A bad combination — whiskey and an internet blog. No filter between the brain and the keyboard..
By Marta Sux
October 13, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
Then there is that Thompson-FAILURE. Dr thompson…oh yes…sent to us from Jesus Christ himself to save the clayton county dullards from themselves. What a good laugh you all brought to us.
Here is this Thompson-FAILURE, strutting around like some kinda prized peacock in his pimp suit and poindexter glasses acting like he is somebody. He sure fooled all you fools.
So…what exactly is this thompson-FAILURE a Dr of? A Doctor of finding a group of stupid STUPID SHEEP and fleecing them…LMAO…YOU LOSERS.
I ve seen the clip on the news…All of ya dressed up on ya furry pimp hats, waving ya hands around, screaming for the baby jesus to come save your sorry butts. And then in the background is this thompson-FAILURE. This guy cant even speak and when he does he has broken toothpick pieces, corn niblets and pig feces falling out of his mouth.
You cc residents are just a sorry, directionless, pitiful STUPID…oh yes a STUPID lot.
By Toothless in Seattle
October 13, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
What a MAN!!
By stanthefireman
October 13, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
What in the world HLS I agree alcohol and internet bad combination
By Kimberly Allen
October 13, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
I apologize to those who had to read that nonsense. Unfortunately trolls, spammers and generally hateful people are an unnecessary evil in ANY blogsphere.
I sent all of these posts to my editors, as well as filing a complaint above in the COMMENT REMOVAL REQUEST area, just above the “Access Atlanta Blogs”
The editors listen to YOU as readers and participants of this blog much more than I.
May I please suggest that if any post on this blog (or any AJC blog for that matter) offends you, that you copy and paste that persons’s name, date, time & offensive comment into the Comment Removal Request area above. You could get a faster result than me going through the editors believe it or not.
Thanks once again to those do who read and post on this blog intelligently. I appreciate you as do the others who use this blog to discuss Clayton’s issues.
Kimberly Allen
By Sigh
October 13, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
“By VOTER BEWARE
October 10, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this
All you guys who say Clayton County don’t have a HISTORY OF DISCRIMINATION and BALLOT BOX PAMPERING “
Humm….do they send the ballot box to a spa for pampering?