Clayton.Talk

By Kimberly Allen

June 16, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

For some reason these candidates websites are not working above, here they are again:

Tasha Mosley

and

Tracy Graham-Lawson

My apologies to those candidates.

Kimberly Allen

By Antoine for Commissioner

June 16, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Democrats? Republicans? There is an Alternative Candidate with a plan for Clayton County: Dabouze Antoine.

Visit Enough is Enough for more information.

Clayton County deserves better!

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 16, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

Kimberly,

Is the AJC there to “moderate” the debate or shape the debate to meet their own political agenda?

Please read the following question and tell me why it ISN’T worthy of asking?

With 3,000+ documented fights and the system’s own surveys mentioning lack of administrative support for discipline a key reason for leaving, what specific steps will you take to maintain the integrity of the learning environment through increasing administrative support for teachers in matters of discipline?

Kimberly, is this not a valid question? If the AJC can’t give a reason why they wouldn’t post this question, they we have to wonder if they are trying to influence the process, instead of “moderate” the process by deliberately shutting out posters who have expressed support for MACE.

Again, even if you HATE Dr. Trotter and MACE read the above question. How is it NOT a valid question?

Kimberly, can you shed some light on this?

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 16, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

Kimberly,

Yet another example of how the AJC is trying to shut MACE supporters out of the political process.

I ask you to read this question, and tell me how, in light of the SACS investigation, how this isn’t a completely valid question?

“If a grand jury investigation casts doubt on the legitimacy of the SACS investigation, would you be willing to seek accreditation from another recognized accreditation agency, such as the Georgia Accreditation Commission?”

How can the AJC maintain any sense of objectivity if they refuse to post completely valid questions, just because those questions come from MACE supporters?

Since the AJC won’t respond Kimberly, can you look into both questions submitted and ask why they were deliberately shut out of the forum?

Again, even if you HATE Trotter/MACE, how can anybody make the case that they aren’t completely valid questions?

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 16, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

Well it appears my pleas have been heard; they have posted at least one question about lack of administrative support for discipline. (Obviously an issue that MACE doesn’t mind addressing, while the administrator dominated GAE does everything in its power to ignore it)

That is one good thing about the blogsphere, sometimes you can shame the powers that be into doing the right thing LOL

By Black Woman in Clayco

June 17, 2008 7:20 AM | Link to this

I like Tasha Mosley and Tracey Lawson. At the debate, Tasha made Leslie look weak and somewhat uninformed about her own office. And I have to wonder if Tracey Graham’s saying there was a precedent Jewel Scott missed that could have gotten rid of the whole school board is what made Scott take this case to the grand jury at all (Scott’s representative at the debate probably ran back and told her what Tracey said). I think these 2 women will change the court system in Clayco and that’s needed badly here.

now if we could ony get Victor Hill to serve some WARRANTS to help get these crimials off the street, maybe we’d start to turn things around in this county for the better.

By Kimberly Allen

June 17, 2008 7:35 AM | Link to this

Attn Clayton Parents - I doubt shame had anything to do with it. The computer system was extremely slow yesterday. The reply I made above took a really long time to post, not sure why. That is probably why your question(s) did not post in a timely fashion.

I also heard a similar question asked at last Saturday’s Town Hall meeting held by the BOE/John Thompson at Lovejoy H.S. They plan on holding more town hall meetings and that is (tentatively) what will be discusssed on this blog next week.

I encourage you [assuming you are not John Trotter or Noresse Haynes :-)] to ask those same questions at their next Town Hall meeting. These are valid questions for future board members but also the ones who still hold office.

In the meantime, can we please discuss the topic at hand? While CCPS is definitely at the forefront of everybody’s minds, electing competent leadership to help uphold laws in this county is equally important, and personally I’d love to hear everyone’s take on these candidates.

Have a great day Clayton!

Kimberly Allen

By Clayton Taxpayer

June 17, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

Attn Clayton Parents

You are a broken record, and I for one am sick to death of hearing you over and over and over again.

“Yet another example of how the AJC is trying to shut MACE supporters out of the political process.”

In case you haven’t noticed, it’s the citizens of Clayton County that want to shut MACE supporters out of the political process.

We are sick of your self-serving agenda, and we want you to GO AWAY! MACE is all done in Clayton County, so find another venue to try and control.

What part of Election Notes: Solicitor General & District Attorney don’t you understand? This blog concerns other important business that the citizens of Clayton County need to address.

Grow up! It’s not all about you.

By need to know

June 17, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

Can anyone tell me how can Lee Scott run for the chairman’s position and his wife is the DA? If they both won would that not cause a conflict?

By stanthefireman

June 17, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this

well said Clayton Taxpayer

By MACE_B_GONE

June 17, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this

Any teacher would be a fool to join MACE. If you are an educator and a member of MACE, you will lose all credibility and respect from your professional community. Forget about advancement & supervisory positions.

Save your career and drop your membership from MACE today.

By The Gap Band

June 17, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

The question posed re: discipline is not a MACE thing. It is a CCPS thing. I know it’s Early in the Morning but while I will agree Attn: Clayton Parents sounds sometimes like he/she is Going in Circles, and many would like to go Oops Upside Your Head on MACE, I think Attn: Clayton Parents has a very valid question. I too would like to know what will be done about it so that Someday disruptive students will know it’s unacceptable to have an I’m Gonna Git You Sucka mentality when it comes to teachers.

Personally, I believe our school administrators are very soft on discipline and it’s time to change that so that it doesn’t become one big Party Train. I would like to turn CCPS around in this area and make it once again, an Outstanding system for our kids.

Now, back to the topic. Tasha Mosley did make Leslie look weak. Ms. Mosley is what Clayton County needs. Also, I do not need to tell anyone who is more qualified for DA. Just look at past actions and behavior. Jewel Scott was overheard saying after Tracey Lawson’s showing at the forum, You Dropped the Bomb On Me. It’s not even fair to compare the two. Vote MOSLEY AND LAWSON!!

By Antoine for Commissioner

June 17, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

There is an independent candidate working towards solutions to issues facing residents of Clayton County.

Clayton County needs an alternative to the status quo.

Elect Dabouze Antoine. Visit Enough is Enough for more information.

By WTF?

June 17, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

I have to agree that Tasha Mosely and Tracy Graham-Lawson are the best of the candidates listed above based on the forums I have seen them at and speaking with them in person. We don’t need any one in law enforcement at any level that is soft on crime and criminals because the criminals aren’t being soft on us.

But sadly, if Victor Hill is reelected (GOD FORBID) it probably won’t matter who the solicitor general or DA are. As said above, if the sheriff’s office doesn’t serve the warrants there won’t be any criminals for these offices to prosecute and Clayton will continue it’s descent into the toilet.

By Concerned oldtimer

June 17, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

I agree with many people on this forum, Mosley and Lawson are the two best for these jobs! I have met both on several occasions. We all need to be informed. There are also two experienced, honorable people in the sheriff race and Hill is NOT one of them. And the MACE guy..please quit writing. Most of us don’t even read your postings.

By Bruce

June 17, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

I made my decision to vote for Rainwater. I like his style at what a Sheriff Department should be doing. At least we know that there will be no conflict with the Chief of Police and Sheriff and the job will get done. I look to see if he had a ego like some of the candidates does and, I am please with what I see and hear from him.

By Curious1

June 17, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Bruce, I liked Rainwater also. I have done some checking on him and, he is straight as an arrow. I know that he is running Republican on the ballot because it was impossible to get 7,000 signatures or something like that. That tells me that he really want to make a difference in this county.

People it’s not about the party he is running on, it is about the person. Research all of the candidates before you make a choice, and choose wisely. This will make a big difference in our County. I am also voting fo Lawson & Mosley. I think they have proven themselves in what they will do.

By Curious1

June 17, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Bruce, I liked Rainwater also. I have done some checking on him and, he is straight as an arrow. I know that he is running Republican on the ballot because it was impossible to get 7,000 signatures or something like that. That tells me that he really want to make a difference in this county.

People it’s not about the party he is running on, it is about the person. Research all of the candidates before you make a choice, and choose wisely. This will make a big difference in our County. I am also voting for Lawson & Mosley. I think they have proven themselves in what they will do.

By Concerned Clayton Citizen

June 17, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

I feel grateful to be able to vote for an exceptional, educated and knowledgeable person for DA. Herbert Adams is far superior to the other candidates. Scott has never done her job and wants another term, I pray that does not happen. Hopefuly we have all seen the disgrace she has brought to this office and we can send her on her way.

Please listen and read about the the candidates and you will find the only choice is Herbert Adams.

Concerned Clayton Citizen

By WTF?

June 17, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Clayton read this open letter to the editor as printed in today’s news daily

By Clayton Resident

June 17, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

My vote is for Tasha Mosley (SG) and Tracy Graham-Lawson (DA). Two great candidates!

Also, Concerned Clayton Citizen, have you done your research on Herbert Adams? He is incompetent and would be a disaster as DA. It would be like voting for Jewell Scott all over again. He has lived in Clayton County for only a year. He probably moved here just to run for DA. I think he ran for District Attorney in Dekalb County & lost. I guess he thinks we will vote for anybody. I guess at one point that was true. But Clayton is beginning to wake up.

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 17, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

MACEBEGONE, Clayton Taxpayer, and Concerned Old Timer

Before I address “the topic at hand”. (And yes, if people are going to attack me on THIS forum, I do feel it’s appropriate to defend myself on THIS forum)

MACEBEGONE,

Seeing as many MACE members are Teachers of the Year at their schools, seeing as many are members of School Councils, elected by their professional peers, seeing as how many have advanced into administrative positions (where of course they must drop their membership) you’re statement holds no water.

But if you want to come on here and be an apologists for education’s status quo, if you want to come on here and tell us what specifically is wrong with advocating for stronger discipline policies, put your money where your mouth is and go back and post on the last topic on this blog.

Yeah, that’s what I thought…

Clayton Taxpayer,

Which part of “The link to submit a question to the school board candidate forum was posted on THIS topic” do you fail to understand?

No wonder you don’t like my posts; when I offer specific rebuttals (like the fact that it was a majority GAE voting bloc that spent MILLIONS *extra of YOUR tax dollars) you don’t know how to respond. But if you think you can refute the *specific point I just made, put your money where your mouth is and go back to the last blog topic.

Yeah, that’s what I thought…

By the way “Concerned Old Timer” are you a member of the Psychic Friends Network? Or are you just retired, and thus have time to go door to door and poll “most people” on their personal reading habits? Since posters have responded to specific points I have made, why don’t you go back to the last blog topic to explain how THAT happens, if no one is reading?

Yeah, that’s what I thought…

As far a the topic at hand. Both the content of the letter and the fact that a fellow attorney would go so far as to offer a public rebuke, does not speak well to the level of esteem that one Mr. Adams is held in.

By HLS

June 17, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

That is funny - ATTN:Clayton Parent/ Dead Poet - We cannot know how many or if any of the awarded teachers could be MACE members - your good friend John Trotter forbids numbers and names of members to be published. Let there be light - publish them. Is he just humble - or would he be embarressed at the truth? Let there be light - publish them - or remain silent on this subject.

By District 4

June 17, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

Attention if you live in Board of Education District 4.

C4 - Concerned Citizens of Clayton County in collaboration with the Clayton County Council of PTAs is having a meet & greet the candidates of district 4. The event will start at 6:30pm at the Virginia Gray Recreation Center.

By anonymously anonymous

June 17, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

I have to agree with HLS on this point. If MACE members are so proud of their union, then let it be known who they are. The real reason why no one knows is because John Trotter doesn’t want to reveal who he can influence. He is well aware of his own reputation. I have asked many teachers about him and MACE, and of those I have spoken with, Trotter and MACE are not very popular.

By Sick of It

June 17, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

Jewel Scott’s term has been a disaster. Just one example: check the Fayette page today. An individual on probation as per her “first time offender” policy, was apprehended as a armed carjacker in Fayetteville. What kind of inept DA is she?? Had he been locked up when he should have been, one less crime by a ClayCo thug would have been committed. Vote for anyone but the Scott machine.

By Therea Moore

June 17, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Mosley and Lawson together will destroy our youths and their futures. Neither has compassion or love for our young black teenagers. Our children make a bad choice they get convicted. White children make a bad choice and they get community service and diversion programs. Go and sit in Lawson’s court see for yourself. The difference in treatment between whites and blacks. While you are there go on over to Solicitor Miller Terry’s court and see how a court should be run. Mosley’s lies will be revealed.

Mosley and Keith Martin joined at the hip. he was the old solicitor. She is not to be trusted. Do not be fooled by all those signs and literature. Look at the financial reports of these people before you vote. Now it seems as though she,Lawson and Bell are running in the same circle. We know about Tasha being introduced around Lake Spivey. Hope you enjoyed being on the Yacht with the other Toms.

By Clayton Taxpayer

June 17, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

Attn Clayton Parents

If you must continue, for God’s sake at least make a new point.

You said the same thing THREE TIMES in your last post.

YOU ARE BORING US TO TEARS!! It’s like reading the Internal Revenue Code on a hot afternoon when the air conditioning is broke - AND the fridge is out of commission!

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 17, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

HLS,

You’re the same person who came on here to sing the praises of Rod Johnson a man who KNOWINGLY hired an accused, now indicted CHILD SEXUAL PREDATOR? (As reported in multiple media outlets)

Sorry if I don’t feel a poster who would sing the praises of a man who KNOWINGLY hired an accused child sexual predator has the school system’s best interest at heart.

As far as specific individuals; yes many choose not to be known because retaliation does exists.

So you can believe I’m making this all up…or you can believe retaliation doesn’t exists (remember the GAE President is a Clayton County administrator)

Of course if you want to belive the that there is no retaliation in government you might want to ask the Easter Bunny (since you obviously believe in fantasy,) why do we have whistleblower protection if retaliation doesn’t exists)

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 17, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this

Clayton Taxpayer,

Of course you want me to make “new points”. That’s because I keep offering specific rebuttals to YOUR, and other MACE bashers points, (such as how can MACE be THE problem when the majority voting bloc on the board has been GAE and the majority of administrators, those who run the system, are GAE?) and you guys seem uniformly unable to respond effectively.

Again, I offered you a challenge to go back to the last blog topic but you are decidedly unequal to the task.

Now as far as YOU being “bored”; perhaps you are if you have read the points before (and perhaps it’s also a bit deflating that you not been able to effectively respond to points I make.)

But remember YOU aren’t the only one reading this blog. There is a distinct possibility that new readers are coming to this blog for the first time.

So “Clayton Taxpayer” come on here and make the case that no new readers EVER come to this blog and I will consider your point valid.

If you find this particular post “boring” maybe that’s because YOUR post was boring, seeing that I’m responding specifically to YOUR points.

By Black Flag

June 18, 2008 6:28 AM | Link to this

Therea Moore (aka someone who is soon going to be out of office - we know who you are),

It’s not suprising that you would try to blame someone else for “destroying our youths and their futures”. Put blame where it belongs in this county - black parents or lack thereof. You are a deadbeat black parent as well. You need to step up and stop using the government to raise your kids. I’ve been in Lawson’s courtroom on many occasions and know for fact you are telling lies and do not know what you are talking about.

This county already has many examples of how the Scotts are deadbeat parents and have tried to cover for their kids and family members. We don’t need people like this in office anymore. They are poor examples to the black community. All communities.

By Cyd Cox

June 18, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this

Attention all Clayton County residents that live in Board of Education District 8.

C4 - Concerned Citizens of Clayton County in collaboration with the Clayton County Council of PTAs is having a meet & greet the candidates of district 8. The event will start at 6:30pm at the Carl Rhodenizer Recreation Center, 3499 Rex Rd, Rex, GA.

By Cyd Cox

June 18, 2008 7:55 AM | Link to this

Attention if you live in Board of Education District 8.

C4 - Concerned Citizens of Clayton County in collaboration with the Clayton County Council of PTAs is having a meet & greet the candidates of district 8 Thursday, June 19th, 6:30pm at the Carl Rhodenizer Recreation Center, 3499 Rex Road, Rex, GA.

By anonymously anonymous

June 18, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

Attn: Clayton Parents - I did not appreciate the Easter bunny crack!

You come on this blog day after day after day attempting to rally support for MACE and John Trotter. You made a point that MACE members are teachers of the year and school council members. You obviously intended to show that the best teachers are involved with MACE, and therefore MACE must be a good organization and productive in the community. But, you can’t put your money where your mouth is because those same teachers won’t admit to their involvement in the organization. You can claim retaliation if you like, but the fact remains that the public is not just going to take your word for it. Trusting people based on their word is what started this mess in the first place.

I think you, Trotter, and Haynes all take yourselves a little too seriously. This is not 1980, and Trotter is not Jimmy Hoffa!

By inside man

June 18, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

Now thats funny.

By anonymously anonymous

June 18, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

taxpayer - No matter what anyone’s opinion is of Bob Hartley, your post is just offensive. I have said that before as you have posted under various names. There must be a more tactful and appropriate way for you to share your opinion with us.

By Clayton Taxpayer (note capital "T")

June 18, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

taxpayer

You and people like you are the reason why Clayton County has sunk to the level it has.

You are a disgusting pig, and I just hope to God that you don’t have children or a wife.

By Bruce

June 18, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

All I can say is that it’s a shame that adults behave this way. This blog is getting disgusting with the nasty remarks and nasty words. I find that offensive.

We are to voice opinions about the school board not things like that.

Why is Bob Harley still in the picture. I had the chance to meet him. He is not running for office. Let’s move forward. How can another person hate one other person so much. That’s the devil, and I rebuke him.

By WTF?

June 18, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Don’t you people get tired of having the same conversation or argument day after day, week after week? It’s enough already, if new readers aren’t coming to this blog anymore it’s because this constant back and forth bickering about the same topic is sickening. Ignore Attn: Clayton Parents/Dead Poet/John Trotter/Noressee Haynes, this revolving door conversation makes everyone in Clayton look bad and somewhat ignorant.

By Curious 1

June 18, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Amen Black Flag. I am sick of the present people in office as well. Hill,Scotts and all of the buddies.

Time for them to go. I personally know Lawson and Mosley and they ned to be in office. They are exactly what we need. If the delinquent kids are doing things they should not be and their parents are not doing anything about it, then these ladies can handle it. I had my house broken into by kids. Thank God I wasn’t there or it would have ended differently. We need a good justice system in place that takes no stuff, and We have several candidates that can do it. Good luck to all of you candidates, Clayton County is a big job.

By Tracy Graham Lawson

June 18, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Dear Ms. Moore: It is unfortunate that you would allow your strong emotional support for my opponent to lie about me, and it is truly sad that you would use the color of people’s skin as part of the lie. Let’s deal in facts. First, no child is locked up in Clayton County by any juvenile court judge unless that child scores in the high risk category, or medium risk with aggravating circumstances, of our Detention Assessment Instrument (DAI). This instrument is an objective tool to ensure that no bias or prejudice of any kind, by any judge or intake officer, can influence the decision to detain. This means that youth with the same charge and criminal history receive the same treatment regardless of their race, color, gender, sexual orientation, social status and economic circumstances. Secondly, since implementing this instrument in 2001, and other innovative tools now touted by national juvenile justice agencies and child welfare advocacy groups, the number of youth detained here has decreased by 50%. Of that 50% reduction, 80% were African American youth. African American youth, however, only comprise 75% of the youth population in Clayton County. These are strategies that we call in my business “Reduction of Disproportionate Minority Contact.” We have done this while also reducing recidivism by between 35% and 50% depending on the year examined. Third, this data is generated by a neutral agency out of Phoenix , Arizona to ensure the integrity of our statistics. Finally, we have been recognized by the NAACP (including my 2007 Trailblazer Award by the Clayton County Branch), the Annie Casey Foundation, American Probation and Parole Association and the Georgia Legislature for our good work. Our success has also been documented in numerous published articles including one entiltled “Clayton County Georgia: A Forward Looking Strategem on the Reduction of Deatined Youth.” Our court has been well publicized and I am surprised you do not already know these well known facts about our juvenile court. Please try to stick to the facts and not spew false statements. Thank you, Tracy Graham Lawson Candidate for Clayton County District Attorney

By John Stewart

June 18, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

To Judge Graham Lawson.

Thank you for taking the time out to respond with cold hard facts to the blatant lies spewed here on the blog about you and for the tact and decorum used in your response. When I heard you speak for the first time at the Clayton State candidates forum I knew you were who the county needed as district attorney. I said to myself finally we have a candidate that actually knows the law!!! What a novel idea if you are District Atty…..hint, hint Ms. Scott.

Judge Graham Lawson thank you so much for your service and for making the decision to run.

By Get Informed!

June 18, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Are you kiddin me! Tasha Mosley is definitely NOT the right person for the Solicitor position, she is only running because these “judges” are backing her to put one black woman against the other, simply because they do not like the fact that Solicitor Leslie Miller Terry is for the people and believes everyone deserves a second chance. Therefore she gives a person who may have gotten caught up in wrongdoing and gives the opportunity to go into the pretrial program. If Tasha Mosley gets in office this county is going to HELL and back because she will be forever controlled by those “People” giving her campaign money to run against Solicitor Terry. Get informed people!!!! If she thought she could make a change in Clayton COunty, why didn’t she do that when she was employed at the Solicitors office, instead of going to Henry County?

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 18, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

WTF,

If anyone is looking “ignorant” it’s because they come on here and attack MACE (completely ignoring the fact that discipline is totally out of control in CCPS and MACE is the only entity willing to fully address it) and then, when they are offered specific rebuttals, based on their posts, they seem unwilling or unable to respond.

If you want really ignorant, it’s voters thinking that you’re going to be able to actually improve teaching and learning in CCPS without addressing discipline first and foremost.

Even if you hate MACE, look at how few questions submitted for the upcoming forum address discipline. How ignorant is THAT, considering the well documented problems with discipline AND teacher turnover due to lack of administrative support?

But even when you point out specific board policies that show where MACE addressed discipline, and GAE did everything in their power to water down discipline to appease administrators people think MACE is “the problem”. GAE worked to keep severely disruptive students in YOUR CHILD’S CLASSROOM and yet you blame MACE for what’s wrong with the schools.

How ignorant is that?

By Concerned Clayton Citizen

June 18, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Clayton Resident,

Yes, I have done my research, I’m not sure you have. Herbert Adams is not a newcomer to Clayton County. Call, ask questions and do a little research and you will find we have a great man in Herbert Adams. He is well educated and knows how to work in a court room. He would be a great DA for Clayton County and we could get back to living like people should without the Scott strong hold.

Concerned Clayton Citizen

By Thera Moore

June 18, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Lawson,

I never mentioned your opponent, which one is it? You have the nerve to call me a liar. You are the one. I am a member of the NAACP and I did not vote for you to get an award. You are using race for your benefit. Why else would you mention the NAACP. Just because branch gave you an award does not give you the right to proclaim yourself a friend of the community. you can fool some of the black people does mean you can fool all of the black people. I think you protest too much. Stand on your own record and stop trying to tear down black men and women.

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 18, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

Anon, Anon,

If I take anything too seriously, it’s the total lack of support for teachers in matters of discipline.

When students can say (literally) “F%$%k you b!tch!” and be sent back to class, with zero consequences then that is something we should take seriously. But we don’t. We’d rather bash MACE.

When students can say (literally) “My cousin’s got a Glock; don’t make him bust a cap in yo’ a$$!” and be sent back to class, with zero consequences we should take it seriously. But we don’t. We’d rather bash MACE.

We a MACE board member proposes a policy to remove these severely disruptive children at those times that they choose to destroy the integrity of the learning environment, and GAE board members try to water it down to protect administrators we should take that seriously. But we don’t. We don’t even take the time to read the policy.

We just bash MACE.

By anonymously anonymous

June 18, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Thera Moore - As an unbiased bystander and registered voter viewing this conversation, I would like to know what evidence you have to support that Mrs. Lawson has judged African-American defendants more harshly than caucasians?

By Theara Mooe

June 18, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Lawson you seem to be great at attacking people. Why call me a liar? I think you do protest too much. Who is your opponent? I never mentioned an opponent. As for that Tasha Mosley, she is being backed by people ( I will not say what color because then that’s racist)who have no compassion for blacks and would use the law to the letter for us but skip some letters when it comes to them. How sad for Tasha Mosley to get with you and your crew. Eveybody in Clayton is not stupid,some of us are victims. the problem is now we can not vote. We have to depend on others to see you for what you are. By the way what is your position on diversion programs, better yet what is your record?

By Clayton Taxpayer

June 18, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

I am standing on my chair to applaud the above post by Tracy Graham Lawson.

AT LAST! Someone makes cohesive points with specific examples and statistics and provides verifiable references for same instead of droning on and on with half-baked accusations and heresay.

It is Thera Moore who is playing the race card, and I hope every reader on this blog can recognize that fact.

Ms. Graham Lawson - you have my vote!

By anonymously anonymous

June 18, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

Thera Moore - If you are not able to vote, then you are either an illegal immigrant or a convicted felon. Why are you not able to vote?

By Egore

June 18, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

www.kemforsheriff.com

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 18, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Well it appears others have done their research as well, Concerned Clayton Citizen, and it does not speak well of one Mr. Herbert Adams.

He claims the DA Potter is out to discredit him, but was it not his own co-counsel who asked he be removed from a capital case, claiming he was “unprepared” and “incompetent”?

Unless it was part of a “good lawyer, bad lawyer” ploy to defend his client, and he took the hit to his reputation “for the good of the client” it’s not exactly a “ringing endorsement”.

And given the old joke about even sharks leaving lawyers alone out of “professional courtesy,” that two of his cohorts in the legal profession felt compelled to submit an open letter, again does not speak too well of him.

Who does speak well of him, and what specifics (other that the ones his own cohorts dismiss as out and out lies) can they offer in his support?

By WTF?

June 18, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Thank you Ms. Graham-Lawson for that intelligent reply. You have my vote, as does Ms. Mosely.

Obviously the thought of these 2 upholding the law in our county is already scaring some people … GOOD! We don’t need to coddle criminals any longer, we need them off our streets.

By Two Short

June 18, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

So here we have it. Post one it’s “Therea Moore”. Post two it’s “Theara Mooe”. Post three it’s “Thera Moore”. Hahaha. You have more blog names than John Trotter! Therea, you said it yourself - “We have to depend on others”. Maybe your problem is that you depend on others a little too much. My advice to you is to take accountability for yourself and your children and quit using the government and me to provide a means for you to live.

Never mentioned an opponent?? You do know this blog is Election Notes: Solicitor General & District Attorney don’t you? And there is an entire summary of those running just above your posts. You’re right, eveybody in Clayton is not stupid… just the one in YOUR mirror.

By SICK of Stupid People!

June 18, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

It is so funny when a black person makes a point about the blatant racism that exists, especially in our Judicial System (IN CLAYTON COUNTY) the she is playing the race card! That’s because when your children get into trouble you can call on your uncle’s brother’s friend who is a judge and get them off. The reason you people are backing Mosley/Lawson is because they’re white people who you believe will start putting blacks where you think they all belong - behind bars! The most fair person in office right now in Clayton County is the current Solicitor - and guess what… SHE WILL WIN AGAIN!

By John Stewart

June 18, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

To Ms. Moore

I think the title of a De La Soul album best describes this years election in Clayco………Stakes is High

Isn’t it ironic that you bring up race in your initial post and then say Judge Lawson Graham is playing the race card with her response. Go back and check out your first post because I heard the sound of a fresh wrapper being torn off a new deck and you whipping out the race card. Your first post comes off as pure conjecture while Mrs. Lawson replies to you with facts and stats. You tell me who a logical thinking person would believe.

By Clatyon Taxpayer

June 18, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

There is blatant racism in Clayton County being displayed by those who vote by skin color instead of qualifications. That is the reason we have this current mess in our school and judicial systems.

If your children want to go out in the street and play gangsta and shoot other children, I WANT THEM IN JAIL! I don’t want them in a diversion program.

The decent citizens of Clayton County, regardless of race or religion, are fed up with the current state of affairs and are capable of electing those who will get the job done no matter who they know or what color their skin.

Stop playing the victim game and take some responsibility for yourself and your children!

By Attn: Clayton Taxpayer

June 18, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

Well unfortunately “Clayton Taxpayer” the school system makes it easier for irresponsible parents and children to not take responsibility, by not having the resolve to support the teaching and learning environment, with consistent consequences for severe and chronic discipline problems.

Students routinely ignore, curse, and even threaten teachers with little or no support given to the teacher; even the system’s own surveys highlight this as a problem; yet look how few questions submitted to the school board forum address discipline.

No, we’d rather bash organizations that try to highlight the problem, instead of asking potential elected officials what they will do specifically to address the problem.

And then we complain about “these kids and their parents.” Amazing.

By fred schwartz

June 18, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

To attn:clayton parents, Noreese or John Trotter or whoever you are. Someone once said it is better for a fool to keep his mouth shut than to speak and remove ALL doubt. There is NO DOUBT that you are. Please get mad and go away.

By raja

June 18, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Sick of stupid People

Tasha Mosley is black, whom I met several times also I have her sign on my car. She got my vote.

By anonymously anonymous

June 18, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Attn: Clayton Parents - Discipline is not the only, or the most important problem that our school system is facing. Your one-man crusade makes you look foolish.

By SICK of Stupid People!

June 18, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Again, another STUPID comment! If you knew anything about the diversion program, you would know that it does not accept criminals who shoot other people, those people should go to jail - i agree. I do not agree that a person who writes a bad check should be placed in jail with them. Any offender charged with an offense for which the law provides a mandatory minimum sentence of incarceration or imprisonment that cannot be suspended, probated or deferred is NOT eligible for Pretrial Diverson Program! GET THE FACTS!

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 18, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

I think the exact quote was “It is better that Fred Schwartz be thought a fool, rather than open his mouth and remove all doubt.”

So you think the system just made up 3,000+ documented fights, because they wanted bad PR?

I guess the system’s own survey on teachers leaving due to lack of administrative support for discipline were also fabricated because the system was craving even MORE bad publicity right?

I guess for Fred Schwartz discipline problems don’t exist, or aren’t even worth commenting on.

Yet another poster who’d rather bash an organization, rather than address the problem of discipline.

And then you want to complain about how bad the schools are? Amazing.

By SICK of Stupid People!

June 18, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

Tasha Mosley may be black on the outside….. Her character is questionable!

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 18, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Anon, Anon,

Discipline may not be the most “urgent” problem in CCPS; but in the long run, you can make a very good case it is the most important.

Ask a teacher who has had to deal with severely disruptive students without being allowed to enforce consistent consequences how important discipline is.

Ask the teachers who have LEFT THE PROFESSION how important discipline is.

Yes, you can make a case about other issues being equally important; but what seperates discipline from those issues is that no one wants to effectively address it.

Just look at the posters who attack someone on this forum who tries to address it. Just look at how FEW questions submitted to the forum address it.

When teachers can report to work, even in schools that serve “at risk” populations, and no longer have to deal with as a normal part of the job being disrespected, cursed, threatened, or even attacked, without swift, sure, and compelling backup from administration, only THEN can this issue be put to bed.

Only then.

By So True

June 18, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Ms Tracy Graham Lawson

What is your position on felons not having the right to vote in GA.

By Clayton Taxpayer

June 18, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Dear Sick…

May I direct your attention to the carjacking incident that occurred in Fayette County this week? One of the suspects of said carjacking, “is serving first offender probation in a March drug and criminal trespass case in Clayton County, court records show.”

Yeah - let’s give all those first offenders a diversion program so they can divert to bigger and better crime.

As for your poor widdle victim, ‘sniff’, who “only wrote a bad check, she whines.” If it was my checking account - I WANT HIM IN JAIL!

Again I say, I WANT THEM IN JAIL! I don’t want them in a diversion program!

By Too True

June 18, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

So True,

It’s simple. Don’t commit a felony and you won’t have to worry about it.

Also, what does her position on felons voting have anything to do with her running for DA? Her job is to uphold the law, not change it. You should be asking your question to those running for office as legislators.

By SICK of STUPID IDOTS!

June 18, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

Clayton Taxpayer,

Of course, exactly what I said before, you people want them all in jail! When truth be told, not all of the people trying to get in the diversion program are black, so it’s not about race, its about principle.

Indeed there will always be one idiot that you try to give a second chance only to find that they are just criminals who need to be in jail!

We have too many people who after spending their lives in jail are found innocent, but its because of people like you who say put them in jail and ask questions later. HOW SAD!

The diversion program works, when run properly. If my son got into trouble for being with the wrong people at the wrong time, or for being a typical teenage boy, I would want a program that he could go into and then have that one mishap cleared off his record.

The problem you people have is lumping all criminals into one pot. To you if a person is caught with marijuana in his pocket he is just as much a criminal as a person who guns down another on the street. So basically, if you write a rubber check, you should go to jail? Yeah right, you are an idiot!

By Clayton Taxpayer

June 18, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

SICK

I WANT ALL COLORS IN JAIL! I don’t want any colors in a diversion program!

And let me tell you about STUPID IDIOTS. Those are the people who whine about racism in a county that is minority populated and controlled!

It seems to me that the STUPID IDIOTS who voted by “the most number of campaign signs in a subdivision” are the ones responsible for the mess we have to clean up in this county.

By Clayton Avenger

June 18, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

SICK of STUPID IDOTS!

A typical teenage boy does not commit crime. This is atypical. You’re right, a criminal is a criminal no matter what the crime. How much debt each should pay back to society is another blog.

By Clayton Voter

June 18, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Ms. Moore, I usually refrain from posting on this blog primarily because of comments such as yours.

Making a decision to vote for or against a candidate solely based on the color of their skin is asinine. The rhetoric you are espousing is exactly the same hateful, bigoted and ignorant rhetoric used against the movement in the 60’s. Leaders such as Dr. King, Andy Young, John Lewis and many others worked hard to overcome such hatred. It troubles me deeply to once again see bigotry and hate used to defame a candidate for public office. This is in large part the reason we face so many difficulties today in Clayton County. Many of us have cast our vote in the past based on color rather than qualifications. I urge you and all voters to choose wisely this election. Become involved and informed voters. We have the opportunity in Clayton County to LIVE THE DREAM. Seize this opportunity and put the hatred behind us.

Ms. Graham-Lawson is a highly respected and highly qualified candidate. Prior to assuming her judicial position she served many tears as an assistant DA. She knows the law and just as important she knows the proper procedures to present and win cases in an expeditious manner. A District Attorney represents the people’s side of any criminal case. I don’t know about you but when I seek legal representation I look for the best qualified and experienced attorney I can find. Every voter on July 15th needs to approach this decision with the proper mindset. Is this the attorney I want to represent me!

There have been an increasing number of cases in Clayton County tossed out because the DA’s office did not follow procedure correctly or in a timely manner. We cannot continue to tolerate this type on ineptitude in an elected official. Keep this in mind when you cast your vote for Clayton County District Attorney.

Sincerely yours, Clayton Voter

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 18, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

You’re not even consistent Clayton Taxpayer. You want swift, sure, and compelling consequences for those who breaks the rules of society, yet you bash the one organization that consistently advocates for swift, sure, and compelling consequences for those who break the law in school.

If they learned there are consequences for their actions when they were in school they may not have to learn them in jail where the taxpayer has to pay for them.

But I guess it’s easier to bash organizations that challenge the “status quo” than it is to think things through.

By the way, where’s the apologist for one Mr. Herbert Adams?

By Theara Moore

June 18, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Clayton Taxpayer you are really perverted in your thinking. But you think like white and black people who think blacks have to have white approval. Tasha and Lawson will be revealed in due time. This county is minority controlled. That is the problem the minority rule the majority. They use a few culturally and socially uneducated and ignorant people to keep them in control. Like Bell, Mosley, Glanton, Walker and Carter. These self serving black can be bought for a penny and will sell their own for a nickel. Now here they come with Mosley. Pay attention to who is hanging out with whom.

By gloria

June 18, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

What the hell is wrong with Mosley “make Clayton the pillar of Georgia” Clayton has never been a pillar of GA. This place has been known all across the metro area and GA for its racisim and double standards for years. Finally, a person like Miller Terry comes along to ease the pain of people losing their homes and livelihoods because of misdeameanors and you Mosley have the nerve to say you want to take us back to what..slavery? legal lynching? what is this pillar you talk about. reputation for putting blacks in jail an throwing away the key? No we do not need a black person or white person who thinks that Clayton needs to go back. We need to go forward in Clayton!

By Henry Resident

June 18, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Hey so-called “clayton taxpayer”: you really live near me in Henry County. Why do you spend so much time spewing forth your hate on the Clayton board???

By anonymously anonymous

June 18, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

You are so amusing, Mr. Trotter. I just sent Mr. Yawn an e-mail earlier today telling him you had stopped attacking him on this blog. You are pathetic, Mr. Trotter. You steal people’s monikers and make up fake ones just so you can post some garbage to make people think that only one person in ALL of Georgia doesn’t like you. I will continue to openly speak out against your candidates (Glenn Dowell, Jessie Goree, Milton Mack, and Andre Glover) and if I can help it none of them will be elected!

I hope that Mr. Yawn and Eddie White find a way to prosecute you for slandering them on the internet! Actually, I’ve considered contacting the GBI about you. I don’t believe that lies and manipulation are your only sins!

By Bruce

June 18, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

Tracy, It was nice to see you again. Thank you for explainig to folks that just accuse and don’t even know you. This is a prime example of being accused because of the color of your skin not the experience you have. Black folk,( I am black) you guys need to wake up and get over yourselves.

Tracy you and Tasha are two strong well educated individuals and definately deserve the positions you are running for. You got my vote.!!

By Bruce

June 18, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Theara Moore,

You are the prime example of racism. Monority controlled!! Look what we got from monority controlled, Victor, Lee & Jewel Scott, should I keep going on the reason why we are in this mess, or do you want to tell me. If you vote like you think, then keep your dam vote to yourself. We don’t need people like your racist a* in this county, so move!!!!

By Theara Moore

June 18, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

This is my last word about Mosley and Lawson. they are not deserving of the Clayton County vote. check out their backgrounds. Don’t just read this blog. Their loud vocal condemnation of black candidates and elected officials is questionable. But it is me who is inserting race? NOT. Both will do more harm than good. Clayton bloggers who are voters need to tell everybody to take a closer look beyond the forums where they rant and rave against everyone else with lies in order to get votes.

By Maude

June 18, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

Someone please find Trotter something to do. We have read his same mess on every blog regardless of the topic. I am wondering if he can read? I was just thinking that he was so self-centered he didn’t care about he topic. If you believe any of his redric please check out his website. www.theteachersadvocate.com

By Theara Moore

June 18, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

Ooops! my last word goes to Bruce. If you are ignorant enough to believe that the problems in clayton began when blacks got in office then there is no hope for you. You and Lawson have called me a liar and cursed me. That is indicative of Lawson and her followers. You all attack to distract! But we only have to put up with this mess until July 15. The righteous will be elected and re-elected and those who should be tossed out will not prevail. Lawson and Mosley will not make the cut. So curse me call me a liar all you want the people will not be fooled.

By Bruce

June 18, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Theara Moore,

Say whatever you like. You are a racist and I am black. You just don’t single people out by saying this is a monority county. We are all human. The blood in our veins is RED. Just because you have a problem with Mosley and Lawson does not mean you should slander them. Every body has an opinion and My opinion is they are best for this county. I am not saying the problem started when blacks got in office, what I am saying is get them the hell out because of their performance. They have done nothing but cost us ALL OF THEM..THe scotts and Hill. There is hope for me, I am not a bigot like you are. I love all types of people regardless of race. Try it maybe you might like it. In other word GROW THE HELL UP>!!!!!

By Theara Moore

June 18, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

To anonymously anonymous

No I am not an immigrant or a felon is tht what you think of those who are proud to be black? I am a student who will be graduating next year from Clayton State University. My parents brought a home here for my sisters and I. We pay taxes but we vote in our own elections in Florida on absentee ballots. My sisters and I major in political science and criminal justice. We have spent time in Lawson’s court and Miller Terry’s court. The difference is night and day. The diversion program that Miller Terry uses has saved lots of students from losing their educational dreams because of one bad choice. We know Scott is not a good choice for DA but neither is Lawson.

By raja

June 18, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

Bruce

Ms Moore stated in a previous post she can’t vote. Thank God. I think she stand to loose something if they are not re-elected (job security). Why else would someone be so supported of these two incompetent fools.

By anonymously anonymous

June 18, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

No. That is not what I think of people who are proud to be black. I am just stating the obvious. You said you could not vote. The only reasons that the law provides for not allowing someone to vote is because they are an illegal immigrant or a convicted felon. If you vote in another state, why are you even blogging on Clayton politics. If you are so interested in Clayton, then register to vote in Clayton. I asked you earlier to support your accusation against Lawson, and you didn’t bother to respond. After reading her post, and yours I am more inclined to vote for her. If you know of specific instances of misconduct or otherwise on her part, then find the evidence to support it and post it here. At the very least, provide a link to something supporting your accusation.

By Theara Moore

June 18, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

Bruce so what if you are Black. what is your point. Let me ask you this have you ever heard a white person say, “don’t vote for me because I am white?” You like some of the other blacks are ashamed of your race and you serve us no good. You jump on the band wagon with white people who would have you think that all blacks are not worthy of serving unless they have white approval. People like you have been around forever. Thank God we are all not the same.

By Plato

June 18, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

Clayton County has a rich history of racial oppression and disinfranchisment of Blacks. For years white citizens turned the other check to this as long as clayton County kept the “Atlanta” influence out. Blacks were denied economic opportunity in regards to county and school district contracts. The 2004 elections were an emotional one. Blacks had the voting majority and did what every other group did and that was to excercise their political clout and influence. The problem arose from those blacks elected out of emotion not being qualified to hold the seat they were elected to. The county commission is out of touch with the citizens and is clearly without a vision. The school board speaks for itself. If this election year, the people don’t get it right, the next four years in this county will be HELL! get it right and vote for qualifications, not race.

The whites have a plan in Clayton County. They figure only about 15 to 20% turnout countywide wich is 60% black. Whites accounty for only 20% of the voting population. If the whites turn out in numbers on election day, Tracy Lawson, Ray Johnson, Gail Buckner, Mary Baker, Linda Miller and all the other white candidates should have a nice day. But thats the first part of the plan. The second part of the plan is to switch to the Republican party and in 2010, when the Republican controlled House redraws the districts, they will do what every other party does and draw them to their advantage. The Republicans will slice and carve Clayton County into Henry, Fayette and South Fulton and those whites who are running now will be sitting pretty. Now keep in mind that the only way this plan will work is if black voter apathy keeps many blacks away from the polls. Study the outcomes of the last several elections and when it comes to Clayton County, Blacks are their own worst enemy.

By Theara Moore

June 18, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

Anonymous,

I am blogging here because I am an American and freedom of speech is not just for where I come from. I live here and I pay taxes here and my parents have property here too. Obviously you do not know the law as it pertains to out of state students. You and the others are dead set on attacking me and questioning me. why is that? Could it be because I am right and have exposed your Mosley and Lawson for what they are? Kind of hard to take from someone who has lived here for four years as a student. You probably never even been in the court room or else you would feel me here. You people with your apathy have condemed so many young people and it will come back to you. The court system for blacks is very slanted in Clayton. Go see for yourself. Don’t just listen to a student.

By Bruce

June 18, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

Ms. Moore,

My mother is white and my father is black. What’s your point. I blog her because I live here what is your excuse!!!!! Don’t come here attacking our folk in clayton when you know nothing about what goes on here.Thank God you can not vote.

You are saying you sat in Lawsons court and that is the bases of your decision. First of all, I don’t jump on anybodies band wagon. You are still in school and learning. I am old enough to be your mother or father. I have a great job that pays well. I also have a right to choose whom I want to vote for because this is my county, not yours. So if I see a racist like you attacking people here that are trying to do good for this county I get offended when they are attacked. You will go back to lovely Florida and talk about Clayton, which is none of your business. If you can’t vote then keep your racist opinion to yourself becaus we don’t want to hear it.

By Bruce at 6:23

June 18, 2008 7:16 PM | Link to this

One more thing Theara, I have been in the courts, I have seen prejudice, I have been subjected to it. I am almost 60 years old so before you speak to someone that has more experience in life than you probably will ever have, do your homework. It takes more than just a coupe of times seeing someone in court. Know your subject and what the case is about. You really have to start from the begining of a case before you can judge what is happening. I did my homework on Tracey and Tasha. I know what they can do. They weigh all options of the law when it comes to their jobs. I bet you did not even speak to either of them. Like other, you just form your opinion and thats the way it suppose to be. Get over it, you are not an attorney, for that matter you are still in school. Learn something from these ladies. They have real jobs, you don’t.

By LaToya

June 18, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

Mosley(SG)—Graham(DA)—and Kimbrough for Sheriff! They could be the Clayton County Law Enforcement Dream Team. All three have well defined plans to restore integrity and professionalism to their positions. I love the passion and intelligence that they bring to the race. Jewel, Leslie and Victor had their chance and they blew it. Let’s get some quality intelligent leaders in office. Thanks to the three of you for running….hang in there and keep raising the bar.

By So True

June 18, 2008 8:11 PM | Link to this

Too True

First I did not ask you, speak when spoken to.

I know she does not make laws, I ask Tracy Graham Lawson what her position on felons not being able to vote in GA? I would like to know her position.

Too True you said “It’s simple. Don’t commit a felony and you won’t have to worry about it.” First you must be able to understand that things happen in peoples lives, only a self center person would make that statement.

Ms. Lawson can I get your answer?

By Blacksoul

June 18, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

Theara Moore

Keep blogging I support you on your position. White racist people (who don’t know they are a racist) on this blog are the ones that are attacking you. They do not care about black youths that don’t get a fair shake in CC court system. None of them attacking you will ever vote for a black candidate over a white candidate, if they say so, they are lying. They come on this blog everyday to get create propaganda about black candidates, you never hear them talk bad about white candidates. (Now they will or say they have, ye right!!). Black people please do not be their fools.

So True, forget about it, Tracy Graham Lawson will not answer that question, we both know why.

By Too True

June 18, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

So True,

I’ll speak when I feel like it, where I feel like it. I’ll speak to you the same way. You blog on a public site, you’re fair game. If you can’t handle that, go somewhere else.

Blacksoul,

Who is more qualified for Clayton County DA, Jewel Scott or Tracy Graham Lawson? Simple question.

And I’d like to know why you think TGL won’t answer that question - even if it is irrelevant to the position she is running for.

By So True

June 19, 2008 1:09 AM | Link to this

To True

Why is my question as a voter irrelevant? Because you say it is irrelevant or because people who have pay their debt to society and are now felons are irrelevant to you. If you really believe Ms Tracy Graham Lawson would answer my question, why did you feel the need to answer it for her? Can your candidate not speak for herself or does Tracy Graham Lawson, believe felons who have paid their debt to society are also irrelevant. Is that why Ms Lawson was condescending to Theara Moore?

Ms. Lawson and only Ms. Lawson can I get your answer to my question?

Tracy Graham Lawson what is your position on felons not being able to vote in GA?

By StillLaughing

June 19, 2008 7:30 AM | Link to this

Blacksoul is the kind of person who gives his race a bad name. he would have been a great black panther in the sixties.I’m still waiting to see which candidate he is. Lee Scott?

By Sad

June 19, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

I was raised to judge a man by his deeds not the color of his skin. According to the Bible we are all family desending from the 8 humans that were on Noah’s Ark. These vents about race makes me extremely sick.

It should also be known that Trotter has been a big force in the race issue. He is white but loves to use low income uneducated blacks to do his bidding causing a race war. This has been in MO for years.

Please listen, investagate each canidate and vote with your heart, the color of skin does not make the person. It is what is inside the person that counts find out about the person’s life and what type of life they have lived and what experience they bring to the office they are seeking. We have great canidates running with only one agenda that is to make Clayton County the strong wonderful county it used to be. Do not believe that the person with the brighest and most signs is the one for the office. Contact the canidate if they are running because they love Clayton County and want to make a change you will be able to get in touch with them.
Why couldn’t everyone have been raised as I was? I am white and I was raised by poor Alabama dirt farmers but as far back as I can remember I was told DO NOT JUDGE A PERSON BY THEIR LOOKS, SKIN COLOR OR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY HAVE. We are all brothers and sisters in the eyes of God almighty. No one in my family ever owned slaves or did any thing to belittle people who was different from us. Please stop voting based on color. There is no way I would vote for a person only because they are white people.

By Clayton Taxpayer

June 19, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

This blog is a perfect example of why we have such a mess in Clayton County. It’s all about race and nothing about qualifications.

If you took Judge Graham-Lawson’s post as “condescending”, then you don’t understand intelligent debate.

We’re going to have a black President. What will happen to your victim mentality then?

By Bruce

June 19, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Black Souls, Ms. Moore

Who on this blog you know that is white? Many people think I am but I am not. I am a human being FIRST. I look at myself as one of Gods children. We all came from ADAM,SO what does that make us HUMAN not black or white. Gods garden has all different color flowers and that’s what we are. We as a people in Clayton (no matter what the race) that can’t stay stuck in stupid. Racism is stupid and it hurt people. If you vote color it hurts all of us because you are not giving everyone a chance to prove themselves. Race does not mean you are qualified for any position. Slander also is stupid because that means you are attacking a person and don’t know what they are about. Peoplem, talking helps us to understand and be informed. This is what we need to do. Be informed on these candidates when we vote. Pick and choose your battles and, fighting against one another is not solving anything.!!!!

By CC Person

June 19, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

True Clayton Taxpayer, its all about race and Blacks being in 100% control of Clayton County. They do not care about their quality of life or how the County is run, its all about black activism. ” vote the black slate” as they chant. They have created a “Black Mecca” for themselves at the expense of the people of Clayton County. The bad thing for them is, many people have seen what has went on in Clayton County the past few years and it has cast a very negative image on black leaders running for office state wide . Many Asian, Hispanic and White voters are now very reluctant to vote for a black because of what they have seen in Clayton County. I hear many people all over the state point to “CLAYTON COUNTY” as a perfect example of what happens when blacks get in control of a City or County. Can you blame them? No you cant. Clayton County has been a major image nightmare for blacks. After all Clayton County makes the news almost everyday in a very negative fashion. Dont think people have noticed?

By Bruce

June 19, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

CC Person

You are absolutely correct. This makes no sense to me. We are in the public eye and,we are not performing good at all with these race issues. The last race was racially motivated as I have heard & seen. You would think that we would have learned from that. This race is not about how many degree’s you have because I know people with 3 & 4 degree’s and are dumb as dirt. It’ about being a people person and QUALIFIED to do the job and do it well without any prejudice or EGO. I believe that a person that have not had so much exposure to the media will be a good candidate because it’s not about them, it’s about the job at hand. Let’s vote serious this year.

By Blacksoul

June 19, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

Sad (a white person)

What a spin, you said do not judge but you made this statement “He is white but loves to use low income uneducated blacks to do his bidding causing a race war.” That statement is judgmental of blacks who side with Trotter, shame on you.

Bruce (a black person)

You have never seen me post telling black people to vote for just black candidates but you have seen whites telling black people to vote color blind. You and I both know they will not vote color blind, they will vote white but they want blacks, not to vote black if a black candidate is going against a white candidate. Bruce you have never heard them say anything bad about a white candidate but they blog bad things about black candidates all the time, now you white racist people want to talk about we are all GOD’s children, then Bruce, they might need to remind themselves about that before they talk bad about people (black people).

Clayton Taxpayer (a white person)

Spin Spin Spin now who has the victim mentality, you white racist people can’t take it but you can sure dish it out. Black people they continue to call you low-income uneducated people, would you support a candidate that thinks of black people like this.

So True

I told you So True, Tracy Graham Lawson would not answer your question; Lawson sent her flunkies. So True, we know that law was put in place to stop blacks from voting. Lawson is on the fence with her answer; Lawson does not want to upset her gun toting racist REDNK Constituencies. Sorry but it is So True.

By SICK of Stupid People!

June 19, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

People, the point to all the nonsense is get informed and read about the candidates and what they stand for and decipher the truth from the lies. Political candidates talk a good talk but will they perform once they’re in office?

This should not be about black/white issues, although prejudice against the races prevail, its about the most qualified.

Personally, from what I have read and heard each candidate “say”, there are some incumbents (already in office) who I feel should continue in office and others who should be voted out.

Get out and vote for the BEST person and may the best person win. Regardless of race!

By Clayton Resident

June 19, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

I concur with CC Person, and yes, I am black.

By Bruce

June 19, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Black Soul, I am not accusing you of anything.

I am explainig to you this is what is happening constantly on this block. Some of my commens was directed at responding to some of the things you have said. And we are Gods children and, my point is we should STOP this race thing. I see Trotter in this blog treating blacks as if they are stupid. Calling black Clayco Thugs. That is so uncalled for. He has a problem with control. I ignore him because he don’t count he is upset with the BOE. I have never said you said only vote for blacks. I am voting for Rainwater for Sheriff. He is Native American. Where does he fit here? Black or White!!!!!! He is my choice no matter what color he is. I have met and checked him out and believe he is a good candidate for this job. I know people are against him because he is not black but they are the ones with the problem, not me.

By CC Person

June 19, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

Bruce, I dont think the people of Clayton County understand how in the spot light they are state wide and even nationwide. All people in education in the state are keeping up on with what is going on in Clayton County schools. Victor Hill is a state wide joke among Law enforcement. People in Law and law enforcement all openly talk about how incompetent Jewel Scot is as a DA. Clayton County has hit rock bottom and many people in Clayton County dont get it. They just dont get it. Ive even hear many black people around Metro Atlanta and the state make negative remarks about Clayton County’s leadership. I dont think people like Victor Hill, the Clayton School board and people like Jewel Scot understand how big of a joke they have become state wide. They have made a complete fool of themselves and Clayton County.

By CC Person

June 19, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Let me get this out, I dont in any way think Black leaders are not good leaders. They are just like white leaders, you have to go on a person per person judgement on who you want to vote for. Look around the state and you will see many many great blacks in leadership rolls that are doing a great job. I think there are blacks that can do a great job leading Clayton County, I just feel the wrong group got elected in Clayton County in the last few years. Thats all.

By Bruce

June 19, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

CC, you have sumed it up in a nut shell. We are a laughing stock all over. If you mention Clayton County to anyone moving here, their response is I have kids and want a good school system for them and a safe enviroment. I also want to sell my house when I am ready to go. Now that is awful, and they haven’t moved here yet. Just think, put racism along with that. I feel sorry for any candidate running for office because they will be shot down by this blog unless it is whom they are voting for. We all have our choice of candidates, so why should we critize anyone else’s. Jewel, Lee & Victor has bought this county down to it’s knee’s. They had their chance and blew it. Again, they were voted into office by us. We need to be selective in our choices no matter what color. These forums, and meet and Greets should be crowded so you can get to know the candidates better. Then if you don’t like what you see or hear, you can make an educated decision.

By just 14

June 19, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

This is to everyone I am 14 years old and a black male. Just want to say that all the adults have made this mess in Clayton and we now need the adults to clean it up. But after me and my friends read this blog we are wondering where are the adults? No one really cares if you are black or white we all just want the mess cleaned up. I a lot of my teachers say do as I say not as I do and my parents tell me to do the right thing at all times because the one that really counts is watching me. If my parents were raising me to be as stupid as some of you I would be really sad. Some of the thing you all are saying to each other is really sad and ugly. I am only 14 but smarter than most of you on this blog and I know that it does not matter if you are black or white it is how you treat people and just do the right thing. JUST DO IT! if you are the Sheriff do your job if you are the da do your job if sg again do your job IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE BLACK OR WHITE JUST DO WHAT YOU DO. KEEP US SAFE AND LET US GET AN EDUCATION. PLEASE.

By Clayton Taxpayer

June 19, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

Blacksoul

You need to market your x-ray vision to Google - they just came out with a map that shows a picture of the steet address. They could use you to determine the race of the residents.

Why would you think I’m white? Because I can put a cohesive sentence together without any spelling or grammar errors? So only white people can speak/write proper English?

Or is it because I’m voting for Tracy Graham Lawson and against Jewel Scott?

WHAT???? A black voting for a white??? GASSSSSPPPP

By Antoine for Commissioner

June 19, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

There is an independent candidate working towards solutions to issues facing residents of Clayton County.

Clayton County needs an alternative to the status quo.

Elect Dabouze Antoine. Visit Enough is Enough for more information.

By Red

June 19, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Just 14

You make more sense than some of these adults. I stated at one time that we are raising children and needed to grow up. Thank you for showing us just how you young adults feel.!!!

By Red

June 19, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

It has been a while since I have been on here and, Race is still the same issue. That is one of the reasons I stayed off, the other is some of you are just down right hateful. Just check out this 14 year old he makes more sense than some of you. We need to mind how we act, THE KIDS ARE WATCHING!!!!

Let’s just clean up this mess and move on to a better Clayton.

By anonymously anonymous

June 19, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

just 14 - Thank you for posting! I promise to use my vote to elect officials that will work as hard for you as you work for your education.

Clayton Taxpayer - You are too funny!

Blacksoul, Therea Moore, and everyone else pushing skin color as a qualification for candidacy - I refuse to continue to address you as your ignorance is boundless! You think that by reading my words, you can determine the pigmentation of my skin. Well, you don’t know anything about me or what I’ve been through. You probably believe that it is not possible for black people to be racist, but you are an excellent example of the textbook definition. You are young, and want a cause to fight for, but MLK’s dream was realized decades ago, thanks to your parents and grandparents. Be grateful to them for that! Now is the time to make your cause color-blind. Take up the cause of ALL people. This constant bickering about skin color hurts everyone, everywhere.

By CC Person

June 19, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Far as Bob Trotter, its true what has been said about him on this blog, he uses race baiting, but as a white inciting blacks against whites to his advantage. He was a failure as an educator so MACE and him getting into school politics is his revenge against the system(“da Man”). Trotter does not want to face his own failure as an educator so he wants to destroy the School he was a failure in. Im sure Trotter does not own a mirror because he is afraid of what he may see. Go back to Clayton County school system’s original problems and Bob Trotter was there lighting the fuse. But it blew up in his face just like the silly little guy in the old cartoons.

By Too True

June 19, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Blacksoul,

I’m still waiting for you to answer MY question. Who is more qualified for Clayton County DA, Jewel Scott (black person) or Tracy Graham Lawson (white person)? Simple question.

You can make this issue about race all you want and spin it all ways saying whites won’t vote black no matter what. The biggest part you’re leaving out is that in this case, you know the white person is much more qualified and better for this county. Which will you vote for - color or county? As for sheriff, I WILL be voting for a black sheriff this election and it WON’T be Victor Hill.

By CC Person

June 19, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Jewel Scott is 100% unqualified as a DA, she is as lost as lost can be, ask anybody in the legal field or law enforcement field. Jewel Scoot is the Criminal defence attorneys best friend. Jewel Scott simply does not know what she is doing. We all know that, its a fact. Far as Victor Hill, “ROFLMAO” is the biggest joke in the state next to Jewel Scott and the Clayton County school board.

By Black Woman In Clayco

June 19, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

This is the #1 problem not only with Clayton County but with Georgia in general. EVERYTHING reverts back to race, doesn’t even matter WHAT you talk about.

Guess what? I’m a sellout, the worst nightmare for some of these elected officials in office today. An educated black woman who will be voting for the best qualified candidate(s) regardless of race. In my opinion, the best qualified this time around are Tracy Graham and Tasha Mosely.

This county will NEVER move forward if some of you don’t LET GO OF THE PAST - that goes for the black and white folks posting all this crap here. You’re making us all look bad. Take a look at some of the other blogs, they are NEVER as childish as folks are on here, they can actually discuss ISSUES without name calling and race baiting.

Thank you to the 14 year old. I hope you keep that mindset displayed above, I know it will be hard growing up in this county.

By just 14

June 19, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Here is a questions me and my friends asked my mom and dad. An election is just like a job interview, but instead of just going before a few people the go before a lot of people and you have to choose the right person, if the people wanted to be elected were going before a few people would all of you care if the were black or white would you question be who can do the job you are offering? I hope someone can answer that cause my mom and dad just looked shocked and crazy at us. But the said yes the would hire someone that can do the job that they had put out there. Can any one give me a difrent answer?

By Curious1

June 19, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

Black Women in Clayco,

Amen. In dealing with this blog, I realized just why we are in this mess after checking out what is going on. We are laughed at, talked about and called all kinds of names. Rightfully so, look at how we behave. That says it all. We blacks always talk about whites being prejudice, Well look at us now. We are no better than them. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

By Curious1

June 19, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Your mom and dad is correct. That is the way it should be. You have good parents. When I started looking at this blog it was civil, now it displays racisim, cut throat ETC. hate,slander, dislike, all because you have an opinion.

I do apologize for the adults on here that are not acting like one. I pray that we will make the best decision for this county this election. I was shocked also to find out the people can be so mean and hateful.

By Black Woman In Clayco

June 19, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

The sad thing is this blog is pretty well written and informative, yet posts are off the wall most of the time and have little to to with whatever she’s talking about so what a waste. Responses consistently revert back to race relations or MACE. In God’s name, WHY? I’ll bet many on this blog are sitting in the front pew of their church every Sunday yet come on this blog and post negativity and hatred week in and out.

Come on Clayton, WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS! Let’s not solidify what the rest of Georgia thinks us to be in print no less! sheesh!

By anonymously anonymous

June 19, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

just 14 - In a perfect world, the color of one’s skin should not matter when hiring for a job. Unfortunately, hatred is as eternal as love, and there are still those of ALL races who give preference to candidates for all kinds of different reasons, including skin color. I hope and pray that your life will be blessed and that you will never suffer for the ignorance of others. God bless you!

By The Dawgfather

June 19, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Curious1,

It is true. I was speaking with a large group of people a couple weeks ago from all walks of life but from around Atlanta. Someone asked where I lived and I told them Clayton County. I have never in my life heard such a collective whisper of ewww from most in the group with a number of “I’m glad I don’t live in that place” following. One little old black lady walked up to me while pointing her finger at me and said, “I lived there for almost 30 years and got out two years ago. You need to do the same. The only thing going for them is that Water Authority”.

I travel all over Georgia for my job and I have heard it all about Clayton County. It is true Victor Hill is the joke of law enforcement and noone can believe Bob Keller was replaced by Jewel Scott. Don’t even get me started on what I hear about our school board. I just tell everyone big changes are coming this next election and we’re going to turn it around.

By Black Woman In Clayco

June 19, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

I don’t even tell people I live in Clayton County anymore unless they specifically ask that question. Yeah it’s like that.

Whenever someone asks, I just tell them what town I live in because that town is in both Henry and Clayton counties. I never mention what county I’m in publicly anymore because I get the same gasps, whispers, etc. that Dawgfather got. It is embarassing and I am tired of it.

The sad thing is I love my home and my neighborhood. I’ve had no problems here. But I’m tired of the guilt by association that comes with living in Clayton.

All of the incumbents really need to go, but I am PRAYING these upcoming elections bring about some serious change across the board. If not, Clayton is toast and I will welcome this rumor about Clayton being divided up amongst surrounding counties and extinguished. Put it out of it’s misery and do us all a favor.

By anonymously anonymous

June 19, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Black Woman in Clayco - I grew up on the Henry side of that town, but live in Jonesboro now. That is a really great area! :)

By Kimberly Allen

June 19, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

TONIGHT Corrective Superintendent John Thompson is hosting a public meeting to give an update on the SACS investigation and the school district’s response at the Clayton County Performing Arts Center, 2530 Mt. Zion Pkwy, Jonesboro at 5:30pm.

On Saturday, June 21 Thompson and the CCBOE will host a Town Hall Meeting at Rex Mill Middle School from 10:00am-11:00am to give updates on progress being made re: the SACS investigation and saving accreditation.

By The Dawgfather

June 19, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

I live there too, Black Woman in Clayco. And I as well have had no problems whatsoever. You’re right. It didn’t help explaining that to those who didn’t know the area.

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 19, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

And then that Maude! What an appropriate name, given that you are to intelligent blogging what Bea Arthur is to sex appeal.

You actually thought you could make a point about MACE and Dr. Trotter by saying, “If you believe any of his redric…”?

“Redric” Maude? Redric? Could you have possibly meant rhetoric, Maude? This is the same person who wants us to compare GAE to MACE? Please Maude, tell us you aren’t directly involved in any child’s classroom.

“Redric” Maude? Are you kidding me? To steal a phrase from physicist Wolfgang Pauli, not only did you not spell rhetoric right; you didn’t even spell it wrong.

And these are the apologists that GAE sends to this blog? Maude please, while summer school is still in session, seek out a good elementary school teacher and get the help you need. But for any other reason, please stay out of a classroom. Clayton’s children have suffered enough.

By Tracy Graham Lawson

June 19, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Most states prohibit convicted felons from voting as an incentive to avoid the commission of felony crimes. I recognize, however, it is not that simple. It is important that our legislators are cognizant of the dynamics involved in every issue. Some times what may appear the best solution, may have unintended consequences. For example, this law has disenfranchised many poor and minority citizens from voting. It is never good when any class of voter is prohibited from voting even if the law is constitutionally permissible. So how do we balance this unfortunate consequence with the fact that there are some felons, who by the nature of their crime, should not be permitted to vote because society has the right as a matter of public policy to restrict privileges of its citizenry upon the commission of serious crimes. It is a basic principle grounded in constitutional democratic systems such as ours that persons who do serious harm to his fellow citizens should be restricted in participating in the democratic process that affects the very people they have harmed. When a person hurts another person, the accusation in criminal proceedings is not the (victim’s name) vs. (Defendant’s name). It is the State of Georgia vs. (Defendant’s name). Why? Because the defendant is accused of violating a contract with society that says you can vote if you don’t hurt! And finally, it goes to that basic principle of wanting an informed citizenry to vote. This is why Thomas Jefferson created public education and is promoted in the Supreme Court decision of San Antonio vs. Rodriquez. People who seriously offend its citizen members are presumed uninformed because of their ill will toward others. Now having laid this foundation of basic constitutional law and Lockean principles of societal contracts, the real question is whether our legislative institutions want to re-examine this law and consider if its’ absolute application is warranted. Do we as a State believe that all felonies should constitute a revocation of the right to vote given the effect it has on many citizens of certain classes? Or maybe it should be based on the sentence? Maybe it can be presumed that if the court deems the defendant appropriate to remain in the community on probation they can retain the right to vote? Or another idea is a blended prohibition that permits probationers to vote except involving certain felonies deemed very harmful? Or perhaps the person could regain the right to vote if he or she commits no other offenses for a certain number of years? I don’t know the answer without further study, and certainly did not expect this type question as a candidate for DA given my decisions do not change public policy as that is constitutionally provided to the General Assembly, but as a mater of courtesy that I do the best to answer. Nonetheless, I hope I have shared my support of such a law, but have questions about how it should be applied.

To Ms. Moore: It is unfortunate you can only provide anecdotal comments to support your opinion of me treating youth with racial bias. You have completely ignored the accomplishments of the juvenile court regarding the creation of a system to guard against disproportionate minority confinement. On June 13, the Annie E. Casey Foundation published its Kids Count which included an essay titled “The Road to Juvenile Justice Reform”. I suggest you read it and note the acknowledgements of the Clayton County Juvenile Court as a leader in strategies to prevent the unnecessary detention of youth of color. We receive visitors from all over the country to learn our systems and to replicate them at home.

It is evident to me that you have taken a position based more on emotion and not objective facts, and it appears to be based in something more personal and unique to you. Therefore, I must cease this discussion with you as it will go no where. Tracy Graham Lawson; Candidate for District Attorney

By Concerned oldtimer

June 19, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

Tracy: Good Answer.

By Blacksoul

June 19, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

To all who have made this statement “vote color blind?”

Racist is ugly but only when it is done by someone you do not agree with. Please do your homework. When you blog “vote color blind” a remark intendment to educate blacks on how to vote in this year’s elections, that remark is offensive to blacks (not to sell outs, you said it, Lonely Black women in Clayco). Please do not think that you are educating blacks by making this remark “vote color blind”. But I guess it is ok to make this back door racist statement? What does that say about you? This statement was also made first on this blog long before my first blog.

Too True (a white Person)

I will answer your question after Tracy Lawson answer So True’s question. Also check all my post, when have I ever post vote for Jewel Scott. But there are “vote color blind” post that referring to Tracy Lawson’s and Jewel Scott’s election but that is also ok, you and the good old boy are just trying to educate, uneducated blacks on how to vote. “Back Door Racist”.

Just 14

A kid needs to stay in a kids place, this blog is not for kids, adult are talking here and your parents should know better, shame on your parents. I do not care what you think an adult has said or done as a child, Just 14 you do not have the right to disrespect any adult. Just 14 you tell your parents and let them handle it, adult to an adult.

That is the problem with the youth today; they do not know their place and poor parenting skill. I bet Just 14 is allowed to watch BET, MTV and talk back to their teachers. Any adult on here that applaud, Just 14, for disrespecting other adults, shame on you for encouraging bad behavior.

Clayton Taxpayer (a white Person) Clayton Taxpayer said “Why would you think I’m white? Because I can put a cohesive sentence together without any spelling or grammar errors? So only white people can speak/write proper English? That is such a racist statement to make; you said that because that is how you feel, your white hood also gave you away.

You have never seen me post about qualifications of candidates and never have I post candidates are qualified because they are black, that is a dumb thing to say but a dumb thing for you and the good old boys to say is that they are not qualified because they are black.

This statement was made “Vote color blind, because voting for color is what, got us in to trouble last election”. So there were no qualified black candidates that did or did not get elected. That is a racist statement but it is ok for whites or blacks to make this statement.

Yes blacks can be racist, look at Lonely Black women in Clayco, she hates blacks. You know that is Funny?

CC Person (a white person)

CC person said “I just feel the wrong group got elected in Clayton County in the last few years. That’s all”.

That is still a racist statement, I was not aware that groups are being voted for on the CC ballets. The correct statement should have been made

“I just feel the wrong people got elected in Clayton County in the last few years. That’s all”.

And never the statement “vote color blind.”

Watch what you say on this blog because I will be watching.

By Black Woman In Clayco

June 19, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

Thank you Ms. Lawson-Graham for your reply. You had my vote before and reinforced that I have made the right decision for District Attorney.

To Dawgfighter and Annonymously Annonymous I’m really hoping that our little area of Clayton remains intact. Is it perfect? No, but where is perfect? I still love there. I’m scared to say the town name out loud on this blog for fear that the bad people will come and mess it up LOL

By Black Woman In Clayco

June 19, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

to Blacksoul I do not “hate blacks” I hate incompetence regardless of the race, creed or color.

I hate that my tax dollars go to pay for unnecessary mistakes and the salaries of incompetent public officials (i.e. Victor Hill, the entire school board, etc.).

Unfortunately, those incompetents this time around happen to be black. If they were any other color/nationality, I’d say the exact same thing.

and p.s. I’m far from lonely, ask my husband.

By anonymously anonymous

June 19, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Ms. Lawson-Graham. That was a very informative answer, and for my sake gave me some things to think about. I agree that we should keep the law intact, but consider revising it.

Blacksoul - That was a very good attempt at being unbiased, but your assault on just14 and Black Woman in Clayco really destroyed your credibility. If this blog were meant strictly for adults, then the AJC would require that you sign in before posting and provide your DOB. Just14 may not yet have the experience that entitles him to the same rights and priviledges bestowed upon adults, but that does not make him any less a part of our community. Please remember that it is his future that is at stake in the coming election.

As far as Black Woman in Clayco is concerned, Websters.com offers the following definition for racism:

If Black Woman in Clayco hates blacks, then by definition, she could not possibly be a racist. You, on the other hand, most certainly fit the bill!

By Clayton Taxpayer

June 19, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

“Yoo-hoo Blacksoul.” Waving to Blacksoul “Oh Blacksoul…” (You said you’d be watching right???)

You must have me mixed up with another Clayton Taxpayer because I don’t live in a “white hood”. FYI - I live in School District 4 on the wrong side of the tracks. My “hood” is racially diverse, populated mainly by Hispanics.

You need to tune up that x-ray vision of yours that allows you to read my mind, pin point my location, scan my appearance, and evaluate my feelings. I see you purchased the option to your x-ray vision that allows you to put words in my mouth too!

If you’re going to criticize every word that anyone blogs on this forum, at least give credit to the correct author.

I’ll be interested to hear your take on Judge Graham Lawson’s post. (Guess what I’m thinking RIGHT NOW!)

By So True

June 19, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Ms Lawson for trying to answer my question but Ms Lawson your answer was spoken like a true politician. I’m sorry but I never ask you for the history of the law just if you support it, I already know the history of the law. So if I heard you right you believe that felons or some felons who have paid their debt to society should not be allowed to vote in GA. Some consider that double jeopardy and yes I believe that law was put in place to stop minorities from voting.

Ms. Lawson, you said “I don’t know the answer without further study, and certainly did not expect this type question as a candidate for DA

Some voters may vote on race, education, but I vote on morals as the decider and Ms. Lawson I think it is morally wrong to continue to punish citizen who have pay their debt to society.

Fact, if felons can not vote what candidate will represent them?

Felons are still someone’s fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, taxpayer, etc.

Will you, or will you continue to kick a person while they are down.

In July, I will vote for justice for both sides. (You never know when it might be you or a love one sitting across from the DA) and you what that DA to be fair.

Thank you, Ms. Lawson

By Black Woman In Clayco

June 19, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Thank you Annonymously Annonymous for breaking it down!

and to Just14 keep doing what you’re doing and continue to use your critical thinking. Usually when someone verbally attacks you for no good reason, that means you are on the right track and that person is trying to cover his/her butt or doesn’t really know what they are talking about in the first place.

By Clayton Taxpayer

June 19, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

“AHA!!!”,she says as she unmasks the blogger So True.

“Just as I suspected! I knew it was you John Trotter aka Attn: Clayton Parents aka Dead Poet. You’re posting these outrageous, ridiculous, UNBELIEVABLE blogs just to make us believe that we’re lost without MACE.”

Please John - I beg of you - leave the felons out of it. Stick to Rod Johnson, The Purveyor of Perverts, and the 3000+ DOCUMENTED fights in the school system.

Forget the whole “no felon without representation” strategy…It’s just not working John.

By Blacksoul

June 19, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

Lonely Black Women in Clayco

Please do not tell Just 14 “Usually when someone verbally attacks you for no good reason that means you are on the right track”

That is not true; you might just be on the wrong track.

Did you forget that Just 14, first jump into an adult conversation then verbally attack and disrespected adults. I guess that is ok, Lonely Black Women in Clayco, and since “Usually when someone verbally attacks you for no good reason, that means you are on the right track” I must be on the right track because I am feeling verbally attack. Thank you, Lonely Black Women in Clayco I will keep doing what I am doing.

I did ask your husband while we had a drink at the Pink Pony. He told the dancer he was lonely so I assumed you were also lonely. Now that’s funny.

Clayton Taxpayer

Tracy Graham Lawson did not answer So True’s question, she tried to give him a history lesson, and the spin on her answer still has me seeing stars, (and let the church plus Lonely Black Women from Clayco say) GOOD ANSWER, please, you are kidding, right! I got a bridge for sale too.

By Theara Moore

June 19, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

Judge Lawson, It does not matter how many publications you quote or awards you make reference to. The fact still remains that black youth are dealt with much harsher than white youth in the courts of Clayton County even when the crimes are the same or in some cases harsher. Whites are not the the only ones who are guilty of this. There are some blacks who follow whites in this act of injustice for blacks. Now that I have had the nerve with my black self to start the conversation, I guess you are just beside yourself with disbelief. All blacks are not fooled by you and your cronies. You seem so defensive Judge Lawson. I can not believe you have time to blog with the election coming up.

Thank you Blacksoul for having the audacity to call it like it is and deal with the other bloggers who have a problem when we stand up for young black people. Clayton is full of self-hating blacks who will do anything whites tell them to for acceptance, including attack the messengers.

By Observer

June 19, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

To By So True:

Ms. Lawson did answer your question. You said “I never ask you for the history of the law just if you support it… “. Ms. Lawson responds “I have shared my support of such a law, but have questions about how it should be applied.” You state “So if I heard you right you believe that felons or some felons who have paid their debt to society should not be allowed to vote in GA.” Ms. Lawson had already expressed her concerns with the application of the law for the very same reasons you provided. She stated,”Or perhaps the person could regain the right to vote if he or she commits no other offenses for a certain number of years?”…meaning they have paid their debt and should regain the right to vote. But what I find striking is that she went further than you and asked rhethorical questions as food for thought that maybe some felons should’nt lose their right to vote in the first place, and for the same concerns you have as evidenced in Ms. Lawson’s statement ” this law has disenfranchised many poor and minority citizens from voting.” It is obvious she supports re-visting this law, and for the same reasons. What is most interesting is that you did not acknowledge her problems with this law and, in her words, its unfair “application.”

By Lil Black Sambo Statue in your yard

June 19, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

CC Person & Taxpayer,

Tracey Graham Lawson, you opened your mouth and whole lot of constitutional BS flowed out. Very wittedly I must say, however your people in politics have created laws with the very idea of locking up minorities etc. Crack vs. Power Cocaine clearly a Black and White issue. Look at those sentences a big difference in length. A Black crack head smoking dime piece crack hiding behind a dumpster gets ten to fifteen percent more prison time than White power coke head caught with five ounces. You may sound good now but those good ole boys are waiting on you; you the ones, the one that run Georgia Prison Industrial Complex. The more you lock down the richer they get then they’ll kick you down a couple of dollars. You know like kickbacks for keeping their facilities FULL.
See you can be bought, you a wart nosed witch in gold-e-locks clothing. Do you think we give a damn about your rants and raves about not voting for an all Black slates. The Blacks we put in office are excellent Officials. The only problems are the WEAK Ones that get bought off by the Yesteryear White power brokers in the county. The yesteryear whites have businesses in the county, but DON’T live. Most times they fund the Uncle/Aunt Toms campaigns, help put them in office. You right, CC Taxpayer the whole state is watching Clayton; however, the citizens of the state know one thing ONLY you white controls the MEDIA so we know what you would feed us. It’s just like your History, which is Yourstory. Everyone knows that you whites are the root of all EVIL in the world. Everyone knows Two White Men, John Trotter(MACE) and Sid Chapman(GAE) destroyed the school board, in a fight for Money and Power. Uncle Tom Elgin, you whites put him in office. Jewell got in because she out foxed your Dumbazz. Sheriff Standing Short won out last election over a Klan. So, you see CC Taxpayer we are fine here in Clayton we like the MEDIA attention no matter how you SPIN it. These same Whites Folks are telling Blacks DON’T Vote Along Color Lines in the Local Elections, on the other hand; they themselves WILL Vote Along Color Lines in the General Election against OBAMA. The Whites would rather see McCain in office and thousands more US troops killed than put a MIXED in; (watch this) the WHITE HOUSE and end this war! I see you hiding under that White Sheet!!!!!

By Vote Rod Johnson Wife out of office

June 19, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

My greatest concern is not whether we have failed our school system, but whether we are content with our failure. We as a community Allowed THEN board vice-chair Rod Johnson to take our school system to SACS, without a majority vote in front of the PUBLIC by in October. Rod Johnson with his Greedy White backers lost control over the school system money. Then, we as a community has let SACS, Elgart handcuff us and now hold our children hostage as bargaining chips for the GREEDY Whites in this community. This accreditation issue is not about the school board members or the children, it’s about the TAXPAYERS DOLLARS generated and allocated for the education of our children. It’s about the school system’s budget over 566 million dollars. The Super RICH in the county has been getting their share of the money for years. The SUPER RICH have businesses in the county but they don’t LIVE here. Our children can be getting Top of the Line Education with that kind of money, but we think so low of ourselves (we blacks) that we’re solely content with our children getting an education from an accredited school system. The GREDY whites have reduced us to expecting so little! With that kind of money there’s “No Way” we can’t have the BEST school facilities and education around, but we are content with the bear minimum because we don’t watch the MONEY. I know the GREEDY do! “MARK my word,” the last thing the GREEDY in this county want you to see is a “Tell All” Detail by Detail Account “Independent” Financial Forensic Audit of the last several years school system budget. MLK said, “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” Rarely do we find men who willingly engage in hard, solid thinking. There is an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions.” “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.” Ask the School system to show you a detailed account of “Where’s The Money”. White Folk put Rod Johnson up to doing THIS!!!!

By ZULU MAN

June 19, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

FOLKS get on this forum and try to tell BLACKS how to vote. White FOLKS claim the county is in the shape it’s in now because of Voting Along Color Lines. The Main Problems on the school board has already resigned; they were white folk money agenda sympathizers. An article in the Daily not long ago read the Commish crossed Color lines, yet don’t tell us any, which makes him a pale $ sympathizer, we need young blood in that position. A couple of those DA wannabes isn’t it; especially Tracey Graham’s talking about Jewell could have gotten rid of the school, who by creating a law. You prosecute the Guilt, Stupid. Sheriff MIDGET will win by a landslide; the wannabes there isn’t it. These same Whites Folks are telling Negroes DON’T Vote Along Color Lines in the Local Elections, on the other hand; they themselves WILL Vote Along Color Lines in the General Election against OBAMA. The Whites would rather see McCain in office and thousands more US troops killed than put a Negro in; (watch this) the WHITE HOUSE and end this war! You want me to vote for the likes of Ridgon, Baker, Rainwater, Buckner and the like. I’m voting for everyone that will be all inclusive; these people won’t!!! Clayton’s whites uses the ole Klan Mark Twain theory when addressing you Blacks “Never tell the truth to people who are not worthy of it.” That’s what they think about you.

By Too True

June 19, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

Blacksoul,

I never said you vote for Jewel Scott. I asked which you thought is more qualified and whether you will vote for color or county? Which is more qualified for DA - Jewel Scott or Tracy Graham Lawson?

Also, “So True’s” question was answered VERY clearly but you failed to understand underneath your own prejudice and predetermined answer. Take a closer look at her response. Her position is crystal clear. Put aside the Jeramiah Wright garbage that fills your mind and quit being your own worst enemy.

By Political Insider

June 19, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

So long as governments set the example of killing their enemies, private individuals will occasionally kill theirs.” In the councils of Clayton government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the embedded county corruption complex, whether White or Black. The government consists of a gang of men and women exactly like you and I. They have, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office.” With the exception of Bob Hartley and Alekia, they can’t get elected. I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.” “Decent men are ashamed of this county government.” If ever time should come, when vain, crooked and aspiring men and women shall possess the highest seats in county government, our county will stand in need of its GOD to prevent its ruin.”

By Mandigo Warrior

June 19, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

Bob Hartley, you ought to be ashamed attacking those Black women on that school board, like Al Sharpton said a month in Atlanta, if they were White, the White man would allow you to attack his women”. Then your simple azz jumps on the forum to try to tell Blacks to vote colorblind in the local elections. Bob, you’re such an Uncle Tom, you don’t know any whites who’ll vote for Obama. However, you want me to vote for the likes of Ridgon, Baker, Rainwater, Buckner (All Klan). Bob Hartley you are a “RACE SELLOUT”, you clean up the white folk Outhouse Negro.

WARNINGS BEWARE: Do Not sign Bob Hartley Recall List, he’s getting your Full Name and Address and SELL it to the Telemarketer and Identity Thieves.

By Clayton Taxpayer

June 19, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

Listen John…you can call yourself SO TRUE, Blacksoul, Observer, or Lil Black Sambo Statue in your yard, but we all know it’s you.

No one, NO ONE, could possibly believe the half-baked, paranoid rantings spewed in those posts. For God’s sake John, you haven’t even read Judge Lawson’s answer right! I know you’re smarter than that…aren’t you John???

It’s your desperation isn’t it, John? You just want to hang on with all you’ve got. Just give up. Go quietly. Let the fair-minded, law abiding, sensible citizens of this county take over. You had your chance, but you really blew it.

PS Next time, don’t ask Jerry Springer for advice…please.

By TRU THAT

June 19, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

This is a bit of wisdom for “Prostitute Preachers” like A Child Of God and Bob Hartley and Red all Uncle Toms. “Of all bad men religious bad men are the worst.” “I think vital religion has always suffered when orthodoxy is more regarded than virtue. The scriptures assure me that at the last day we shall not be examined on what we thought but what we “Did”. The wise speak only of what they know.” You talk about God and Religion Mr. Hartley aka A Child of God, however, I see you at church with your Black Suit and Red Tie on with the bucket taking up Tide & Offering, then you and your group of thieves go to the back and divide the congregation Money. I despise you, you HOE, you take advantage of the Church and you’ll take advantage of the Citizen of this County. You are a LAIR, a CROOK, a THIEF and GOD is NOT in you! By not answering the question posed to you earlier, you have shown the citizen of this county and this blog that you are Clueless about what’s going on with Clayton County School System, yet, you will call yourself running a recall effort and asking for donations. You Crook, that boy is right You are a White Folks Outhouse Negro! Do you know what Outhouse mean you California PUNK, Outhouse is a Sh_thouse. Boy let me tell you something GOD “When you are arguing against Him you are arguing against the very power that makes you able to argue at all.” When a man is getting worse, he understands his own badness less and less. A moderately bad man knows he is not very good: a thoroughly bad man thinks he is all right.” Then he said he don’t care about the white folk stealing millions of your tax dollar! “WATCH OUT CLAYTON RESIDENTS BEWARE, Signing anything today Especially Bob Hartley’s Recall papers with your full name and address may/will destroy your WHOLE LIFE. Remember these Identity THEIVES coming to your houses or approaching you in the street. Hartley working those kids to get your information and selling your information. BEWARE!!!!!

By Whites for Obama

June 19, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

I agree that there are generations of rednecks in the deep south who will vote for John McCain (The Pillsbury Doughboy). But, I believe that Barack Obama will be our next President because white people will vote for him right alongside our black, red, brown and yellow brothers and sisters - in record numbers.

Do you think we don’t know that the Bush Dynasty has tossed us crumbs out the back door - not to mention slaughtering innocent young men and women for the sake of corporate greed?

But it won’t hurt to keep up the Black Power rhetoric. You might just convince a few of those rednecks to vote for Obama just to spite you!

By Blacks for Obama

June 19, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

Whites for Obama aka John Trotter,

Don’t you have to go picket somewhere?

By P**

June 19, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

Zulu Man,

First of all I do not understand you. Get spell check Have you spoken to any of these people you are speaking about that you say are white? Funny, Rainwater is native american, did you know that? Also,it doesn’t matter what color they are or nationality.I know Ms. Baker also. Mr. Rigdon, I don’t know him but, he did not impress me in the forum I saw him in.

I am so very tired of hearing race. You know what maybe we need to hit rock bottom, because some of you are so narrow minded until you need to see what it feel like eating out of the garbager can. Because if we have another year of the Scotts and Hill and their buddies in office this is where we will be. So wake up stop thinking everyone is out to get you because they are not unless you wronged someone.

By John Stewart

June 19, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this

This blog is so funny to me. I hope you all caught on to Trotters game. If you don’t realize it he is using multiple screen names to incite this race excrement. Hey John does the name Sybil come to mind? Schizophrenic

What kind of work do you do that you can be online posting all day.

By Tip of the spear

June 20, 2008 6:41 AM | Link to this

Are you serious? Don’t sign the petition because Bob will sell your information to the telemarketers? Is this the best reason you can come up with Sandra Scott? Why are you people consumed with Bob and his efforts to hold those we elected accountable? The man is not a candidate for anything! As far as the race card being played here, it is Clayton county and a hit pig will hollar. Mandingo Warrior, We know you are Trotter or a Trotterite. Your transparent as well as your motives. You have the nerve to post on here about “Those poor black women o the BOE”, What a crock of BS. What about the poor 52,000 + students in the district that may very well lose Acred because of the self-serving, overblown egos of those fools on the BOE? Stop all this racial divide and conquer and focus on the children, your property values and what’s really at stake here. Get your head out you butt and start using your head. Mandingo Warrior why would you use that name? Your a p** off white senior citizen who is bitter because your empire is falling all around you. But your a fool, an idiot and a liability to the good, hardworking citizens of this county.

By just 14

June 20, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this

I am sorry if I disrespected any adult, I just wanted you adults to hear from a kid who wants a good life and a good education. I am so sorry that some of you just want to go back and forward and not solve anything. I am out

By anonymously anonymous

June 20, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

Yes, most of those posts last night were John Trotter. I think that he attacks Bob Hartley because Hartley is Aleika Anderson’s campaign manager. Aleika Anderson quit the MACE organization, and will not associate with Trotter. He is afraid of her because she knows too much about him. But, at the same time, he knows that if he speaks out against her then she might win the election so he posts crap about Bob Hartley hoping to discredit her through him. He doesn’t want Sandra Scott recalled and he doesn’t want Aleika Anderson elected.

John Trotter’s worst fear are people intelligent enough to see through him and his flimsy bag of card tricks. He has given out too much information on this blog before so he has changed his blogging habits. (I was wondering if anyone else had noticed.)

Oh, and I just wanted to say, that those who attempted to rebuke Ms. Lawson-Graham’s answer to that question obviously did not understand it in the first place. She offered both sides of the topic, court precedent to support both sides, and closed with her own opinions on the matter. However, how she answers this question should not be a factor determining whether she is worthy of the position of district attorney. As a DA, she would have no power to affect this law or those who suffer because of it.

By Sherrie

June 20, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

I attended the District #8 Forum last night between Alieka Anderson and Ed Rigdon. I want to let you know that Ms. Anderson is an intelligent, knowledgeable candidate and she tore Mr. Rigdon up. He did not answer any questions and he skated around many of the answers that the people asked him. Mr. Rigdon even said, that the people from the give-em-the-boot website were mean and that he had not seen such prejudice in his life. I was very surprised to hear that being that he is on their web-site as a candidate for school board. Citizens you do not need to vote based on race but, you need to get out and hear what your candidates have to say. I thought that we could depend on the endorsements by people like David Barton of the (Metro Atlanta Realtors Association)who endorsed Ed Rigdon to show us who the best candidates are for the positions in Clayton County. However, after hearing Ms. Anderson’s position last night and the validity of her answers I believe that she would be the best person to serve district 8. The Voter’s of District 8 will not be fooled by frivilous endorsements we will vote for Alieka Anderson for school board. At first, I had my doubts about Ms. Anderson but, now I know she is not with MACE and I know she is the best candidate for this position. Mr. Rigdon has no idea what a school board is and how it functions. I was not impressed and it is time for a change. Also, I want to thank Charlton Bivins from C4 for hosting this event because it let the voter’s see the real truth about the candidates.

By So True

June 20, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

John Trotter has been a political mastermind behind the elections of many in this county for a long time. He’s sweating bullets now because he sees his power fading. His “projects” are either being recalled or removed this coming election and those running are also being exposed.

John Trotter and his supportors came on this blog and stired the pot using vile, distasteful, and disrespectful racial remarks in an attempt to sway votes. Any adult that would do such a thing speaks for itself to their character. It is also speaks to the types of people Trotter supports. One thing is true, if Trotter speaks out against someone, there is a reason. If he advocates for someone, there is also a reason. Usually, the reason has to do with benefiting himself politically and financially. Just look at those who have had his support on the school board alone the last 7 years. Where have they taken this system?

He is against Ms. Lawson-Graham, Mosley, Hartley, etc. Just makes you wonder how good they really are.

By Antoine for Commissioner

June 20, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Voter Alert

There is an alternative for Chairman. Do you want strong leadership on the County Commission?

Do you want strict ethical behavior?

Are you better off today then you were four years ago? If not, visit my website at www.enoughisenoughga.net

There is an alternative for Chairman..and his name is Dabouze Antoine!!

By Imma Bad Mamajamma

June 20, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

Sherrie,

How do you know there was validity to her answers? Unless of course, you are her. It’s apparent you have motive behind your blog but if you’re going to share thoughts about candidates, at least bring some substance and examples to support your position.

Your response is full of holes, no thought, and raises alot of questions re: your motives for your post. Maybe you are Alieka wanting so badly to hold some kind of position. Especially since the attempt to be voted in as County Commissioner D-1 in 2006 failed. Does she feel the School Board would be easier for her? Who’s really pushing you for this position? Trotter? Just because you aren’t a member of MACE does not mean you aren’t still influenced by that man. Look at Scott, Baines-Hunter, and the rest of them.

By Positive change

June 20, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

I attended the Chamber of Commerce forum this week and I was very impressed with William Hill candidate for District 6 school board; very passionate about children and very articulate on issues concerning the school system and our county. He is educated, experienced, and ethical. William, you have my vote. www.electwilliamhill.com

By Solid truth

June 20, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

I agree William Hill is the candidate of choice for the Clayton County School Board in District 6; he is an advocate for all children and everyone in Clayton County. He is a true community servant and is not caught up in the political mire that has caused our county to suffer way to long.

By Absolutely Right

June 20, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Yeah, you are right. I checked him out and William Hill is not affiliated with MACE, CCEA, Metro South Realtors or any other self-serving special interest groups who are only concerned with padding their wallets and pats on the back; while our children go lacking. Anyone who lives in District 6 vote for William Hill on July 15. He will truly represent your district, the school system, our children, and the community in excellence. Check out his website at www.electwilliamhill.com

By REALTOR

June 20, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Sherrie,

How can you say that our endorsement is frivolous? We conducted ourselves in a professional manner and we looked at each candidate objectively. Are you related to or at a NON arms-length relationship with Alieka? The REALTORS worked extremely hard identifying the correct candidates from the forums and then through the literature that was passed out by the candidates, and then through interacting at the meet and greets. The REALTORS have understood that there has been an economic downturn within the county that is primarily related to the schools and the board. The REALTORS have shown where you, the home owners have lost nearly $50,000 in equity in your home within the last five years. Now the Nay Sayers will say that we are doing this for a higher commission; I say to them, first of all if we the REALTORS do perform within the community to educate you on the issues and then bring before you the ability to move forward, and then the county does begin to move forward, should we not be recognized for our hard work when it comes time for you to sell your home at a profitable ability? We are trying to build a community and make Clayton County successful again in the business and homeownership side of the economy, and you have to remember that if we are successful in helping to restore the lost equity within the county, the REALTOR who is successful in helping you obtain $50,000 extra in equity should still only receive their proportionate commission (which is negotiable) would only receive about on average of $4,000. The REALTORS are the only organization within the community that has put over $10,000 to educate the public and collaborated with the c4 group. So, when we spoke to the candidates that we identified, we called them into an interview session. After the interviews, we were absolutely positive that we made the right decisions. I like Alieka and she is a great person, but how can you say that she is more qualified over a Georgia State University Professor and the person who is the head of the Department of Marketing at Georgia State? We are sure to say that Ed Rigdon is the most qualified candidate for the board in the 8th district.

FYI, This was our Press Release:

The Metro South Association of REALTORS® believes that one of the most important races for Clayton County is the school board race. In that it has been perceived as the most important race in the county as a result of the accreditation issue, the Metro South Association of REALTORS® took a comprehensive look at the candidates who submitted themselves for service in restoring the system’s reputation. There were considerable discussions among members as to what constituted an effective school board member. For challengers, we wanted to endorse candidates who were the most qualified. Overall, the Metro South Association of REALTORS® Board felt that a school board member should possess good analytical leadership and collaborative skills to move the district forward. The Metro South Association of Realtors® in its deliberations and due-diligence also, wanted a candidate who did not have a single-issue focus but rather an interest in the success of all Clayton County students. In making our determination, there was consensus among members that our decisions on which candidates to endorse would not be predicated on appeals and solicitations from external influences or special interest groups. We endorsed candidates without regards to race, political affiliations, gender, or ethnicity. Pursuant to the lengthy discussions among board members, the candidates that the Metro South Association of REALTORS® endorses are the following, because we believe they parallel our specifications and requirements related to who will work in the best interest of our children and community: • Lindsey McDaniel 2nd District Clayton County School Board • Tamie Hardy 3rd District Clayton County School Board • Deverick Williams 4th District Clayton County School Board • Diana Nicholson 5th District Clayton County School Board • Glenn Dowell 6th District Clayton County School Board • Denise Sampson 7th District Clayton County School Board • Ed Rigdon 8th District Clayton County School Board

By Inquiring Mind

June 20, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

**Do political pimps ever retire?

It seems as if though John Trotter MACE and Sid Chapman CCEA have gone from bad to worse this year. Check out who they are endorsing:

MACE-Glen Dowell (white collar crook)

Jessie Goree (pimping the system as a full time employee and school board candidate)

CCEA-Mary Baker (no experience or leadership capabilities); majors in brown-nosing and chasing after black politicians????

They are many others; these are just a few. On July 15 every registered voter come and vote to put an end to these long-time political pundit pimps! Also Metro South Realtors don’t allow David double-mouth talking Barton ruin your the integrity of your organization.

By David's Friend

June 20, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Oh by the way, did you know that David Barton received the President’s award and as of Tuesday was chosen as the 2008 REALTOR of the year by his peers. This was based upon all of the hard work that he has performed within the county and the schools. David is a School Council Member and is a partner in Education. I think his dedication and concerns for our schools and county has been proven by his hard work and loyalty.

By anonymously anonymous

June 20, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

REALTOR, if you are working so hard to educate the community, why endorse any particular candidates? After endorsing a set of candidates, how could you possibly expect us to consider your attempts to educate and inform to be unbiased? What is it about your judgement that makes it any better than mine or anyone else’s for that matter? I have met and worked with a Metro South Realtor before who seemed to be very community-minded, but after your posts and your organization’s endorsements, I am truly disheartened with the whole group.

By So True

June 20, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

so True did not post this someone has jacked me for my user name, not cool GETB Memebers.

By So True

June 20, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

John Trotter has been a political mastermind behind the elections of many in this county for a long time. He’s sweating bullets now because he sees his power fading. His “projects” are either being recalled or removed this coming election and those running are also being exposed.

John Trotter and his supportors came on this blog and stired the pot using vile, distasteful, and disrespectful racial remarks in an attempt to sway votes. Any adult that would do such a thing speaks for itself to their character. It is also speaks to the types of people Trotter supports. One thing is true, if Trotter speaks out against someone, there is a reason. If he advocates for someone, there is also a reason. Usually, the reason has to do with benefiting himself politically and financially. Just look at those who have had his support on the school board alone the last 7 years. Where have they taken this system?

He is against Ms. Lawson-Graham, Mosley, Hartley, etc. Just makes you wonder how good they really are.

By Watchful Eye/Realtor

June 20, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Realtor,

Despite the length of your comments they are simply not true; please be honest with Sherrie and everyone.

Sherrie, the truth of the matter is that these were not the original candidates selected by Metro South Realtors Association. David Barton acted as a solo artist, made his own separate choices and rammed them down the throats of the selection committee. His selfish actions which were influenced by outsiders has caused a lot of friction at Metro South Realtors (ask any of them when David’s not around and they will tell the truth). The fact is David has sold-out to political influences and it is casting a negative image over Metro South Realtors. I can’t trust David Barton anymore; but I do have a lot of respect for his wife Tammy and the other good people at Metro South. Voters on July 15th put an end to this drama and don’t vote for any of these special interest group endorsed candidates; they can’t be loyal to our children and the community; because they are and will be on the puppet strings of those organizations.

By Sherrie

June 20, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

To the Metro South Realtors. I am appauled that you would write me such a long letter explaining yourself about Ms. Anderson. But, since you brought it up I want to know what was your selection process for these candidates? Did you call the candidates in before a panel of realtors and let your realtors pick who they wanted as candidates for these offices? Or did Mr. Barton just make these selections on his own? It’s obvious that based on what the blogger “Watchful Eye” said, that there had to be some discrepencies in how these candidates were picked. I have nothing against your organization but, just because Mr. Rigdon works as a professor at GSU University does not make him a more qualified candidate. Ms. Anderson is an educator also and has every degree and is currently obtaining her doctoral degree and she is a small business owner. I was just shocked at the way Mr. Rigdon carried himself last night and I thought with your group having so much credibility that you would have picked up on the fact of who is the best candidate. However, I must say that I have looked at the facts and I am just asking the citizens to pick who are the best candidates and not look at endorsements especially, after I saw and heard Mr. Rigdon last night. I am obligated to my opinion and you guys are obligated to yours. I think no less of your organization based on the selections that you made but, I do have a concern with the process since others have brought it up on this blog. It should not be a one man decision but, all of the realtors should be involved. Don’t you think? Also, I am only a concerned citizen in District 8 and I am not out for a political fight because I believe we have enough fighting on the board. Let’s be peaceful!!!

By Sherrie

June 20, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

To the Metro South Realtors. I am appauled that you would write me such a long letter explaining yourself about Ms. Anderson. But, since you brought it up I want to know what was your selection process for these candidates? Did you call the candidates in before a panel of realtors and let your realtors pick who they wanted as candidates for these offices? Or did Mr. Barton just make these selections on his own? It’s obvious that based on what the blogger “Watchful Eye” said, that there had to be some discrepencies in how these candidates were picked. I have nothing against your organization but, just because Mr. Rigdon works as a professor at GSU University does not make him a more qualified candidate. Ms. Anderson is an educator also and has every degree and is currently obtaining her doctoral degree and she is a small business owner. I was just shocked at the way Mr. Rigdon carried himself last night and I thought with your group having so much credibility that you would have picked up on the fact of who is the best candidate. However, I must say that I have looked at the facts and I am just asking the citizens to pick who are the best candidates and not look at endorsements especially, after I saw and heard Mr. Rigdon last night. I am obligated to my opinion and you guys are obligated to yours. I think no less of your organization based on the selections that you made but, I do have a concern with the process since others have brought it up on this blog. It should not be a one man decision but, all of the realtors should be involved. Don’t you think? Also, I am only a concerned citizen in District 8 and I am not out for a political fight because I believe we have enough fighting on the board. Let’s be peaceful!!!

By For Real

June 20, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Will the real “So True” please stand up. Who cares. You’re not that important.

By What is that?

June 20, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

C4 is breath of fresh air they don’t endorse anybody! They don’t endorse nobody… I was at the district 4 meet & greet they put on. it was really up close and personal with the candidates. i hear they are doing district 6 on Tuesday - I plan to make that one and ask the question to Glenn Dowell, if you are not tied to Trotter why is MACE endorsing you?

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 20, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

What is that?

Why do people have to lie to make a point? MACE doesn’t even endorse candidates. It’s GAE who announced, in this very paper their slate of candidates.

You know GAE right?

-the one who were the majority voting bloc on the school board

You know, the majority voting bloc who voted for the land deal

The majority voting bloc whose members went to SACS because a MACE board member was getting too close to the truth about the land deal

It’s GAE “What is that?” who endorses candidates, not MACE. MACE supports discipline, GAE supports candidates who will water down discipline policy to protect ADMINISTRATORS…it’s right there, in board policy if you want to EDUCATE yourself on the real issues.

By Concerned Realtor

June 20, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

My question to the Metro South Realtors Association is, “If Glenn Dowell is backed by MACE then why are you backing him also?” Now as a realtor I am questioning your organization’s choices also, because of all of the problems that MACE has caused in the past in Clayton County. I can’t believe that you would endorse one of Trotter’s candidates. I don’t care how qualified you think he is. I am not passing judgement and I have a lot of respect for the realtors association but, if we are not careful we will be back in the same mess we were in before with the current board.

By REALTOR

June 20, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

I know for a fact that there were more REALTORS involved than David Barton. For you to say that he shoved those candidates down our throats dismisses all of my hard work. There were other REALTORS that were involved, I promise you that. The Governmental Affairs team purposefully only had two of the members in public but had several of us in the audience and working with them. My time was not wasted and I am glad to be apart of something positive. You explain yourself and sound as if you are correct, but you were not part of the process and now you want to try to poison something good. If you want to be part of the team and process, then please call and be pro-active in the board. You will find that we endorsed candidates that we think will improve the overall performance and academic achievements of our schools.

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 20, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

Concerned Realtor,

Again, someone who wants to set up Trotter/MACE as “the straw man” when:

-the majority voting bloc has been members of GAE (voted for the land deal, voted for Pulliam, voted to TOTALLY GUT the teacher’s right to discipline, etc.)

-not one MACE member is an administrator; but the GAE President and a member of the GAE Board of Directions ARE CCPS administrators…you know, the ones that ACTUALLY RUN the system.

Why don’t you address THAT “Concerned Realtor” instead of blaming MACE for everything from junior’s acne to grandma’s gout, and everything in between.

By C4-Concerned Citizens of Clayton County

June 20, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Attention All School Board District 6 Residents and Concerned Citizens of Clayton County C4-Concerned Citizens of Clayton County & Clayton County Council of PTAs would like to invite you to join us for a School Board Candidate Meet & Greet on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 @ 6:30 PM at the Jim Huie Recreation Center, 9045 Tara Blvd, Jonesboro, GA. For more information, you may call Charlton Bivins @ 770-374-2144.

By David Barton

June 20, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

I received a call stating that there are some questions on Kimberly’s Blog in reference to the selection process that has occurred within the Metro South Association of Realtors. I am the Vice President of Governmental Affairs, and I am available at 678-410-2359 to speak to anyone who has any questions with regards to this issue. Please call me and ask the questions, and if you are not happy with the answers then you can post what ever you wish, but until you know EXACTLY what was said or done, then please be kind and respectful of our due-diligence. We are not knocking anyone else’s selections and respect their choices for their reasons. Please do the same for us. And no matter what ANYONE says, we had NO agenda and we stand behind our selections. Please call and discuss this matter with me and if you are a Realtor and were not part of the process and did not come to join all of the events that you were invited to within the Board, then please do not complain in public. Be part of the solution and process and not part of the problem. We still have the candidates for the State Reps., Commissioners, DA, Solicitor’s Office, Sheriff and several others to look at. Please join in and we will look forward to working with you and in hearing what you have to say.

By anonymously anonymous

June 20, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Attn: Clayton Parents - Would you deny that Glen Dowell is involved with your organization?

By anonymously anonymous

June 20, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

Hey bloggers! Link to this and tell me if it sounds like anyone we know. Particularly read the AJC excerpt at the bottom.

[http://www.theteachersadvocate.com/id72.html]

By anonymously anonymous

June 20, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

Oh, I am so depressed! I just went touring on the MACE website. One of my absolute favorite teachers from middle school is a member! I think I might be devastated. Oh well, apparently the site has not been updated in a long time because at least one person on that page is no longer a member. Maybe there is still hope for the good teachers who have been fooled by Trotter’s shallow promises and manipulation. It’s not the organization, but the personal agenda of its founder!

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 20, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

First of all it’s not my organization. But I emphatically (obviously LOL) support their basic guiding principle of “You cannot have good learning conditions until you have good teaching conditions.”

Doesn’t mean that individual members haven’t greatly disappointed me in the past when they let personal, petty, agendas get in the way of improving teaching and learning conditions in the county.

Now, so that I’m not avoiding your question. I have ZERO doubt that Dr. Trotter knows Glen Dowell. (From what I gather, Dr. Trotter seems to know everybody.)

And, from what little I know about Glen Dowell, he knows all too well how the lack of support for discipline affects teaching AND how retaliation is the tool administrators use on a regular basis when teachers advocate for better classroom conditions.

Thus I wouldn’t be surprised if he agrees with MACE on some issues (but then again NOBODY has EVER come on this blog and explain why “You can’t have good learning conditions until you have good teaching conditions” is NOT a good guiding philosophy)

But, (again from what little I know) Mr. Dowell seems to have carved a niche for himself as an educator in such a way that he wouldn’t be beholden at all to an alleged “agenda” of Dr. Trotter.

But now we are back to Dr. Trotter as a “straw man” again, when you have CCEA President Sid Chapman out there actively endorsing candidates and he gets a free pass.

At least one poster (who was NOT a Trotter/MACE fan by the way) has finally called out Sid Chapman for his political agenda. An agenda that, in the past, has put administrators ahead of classroom learning and teaching conditions; an agenda that manifested itself in board policy (by trying to TOTALLY GUT a teacher’s ability to remove disruptive students) and STILL the overwhelming number of people on this board give Sid Chapman a free pass (even though he’s earning years in the Teachers Retirement System that TAXPAYERS will pay for as a “teacher” in CCPS who does NOT teach, but rather sits in a union office)

You attack Trotter, but Sid Chapman, whose retirement as a “teacher” (sitting in a union office, AWAY from the classroom; no wonder he doesn’t mind TOTALLY GUTTING discipline policy) will be paid for with YOUR TAX DOLLARS, gets a free pass from almost everybody on this blog.

Amazing.

By THE SHADOW KNOWS

June 20, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Question, How can Glen Dowell head a non-profit students organization (Youth Empowerment Program) which receives funding from the Clayton County School Board and sit on the school board if elected? Isn’t that conflict of interest what got us in this boat in the first place?

By anonymously anonymous

June 20, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

Attn: Clayton Parents - Since you are the “Trotter-apologist,” can you explain to me why Dr. Trotter posted such insidious lies about Eddie White on this blog in his own name? Please also explain why Michelle Strong (MACE member) happened to be the one who printed that same inflammatory blog and placed it before Mr. White’s seat at the table? Could it be because Trotter and Strong knew that if they pushed Mr. White the right way that he would quit, which would ultimately lead to Ms. Strong taking the chair position on the board, giving her and Trotter complete control. Wasn’t it you that pointed out that Eddie White’s resignation came just before the vote on hiring Dr. Thompson, a candidate for superintendent that the public so outwardly objected to hiring?

By Gloria

June 20, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

David Barton Liar,Liar Pants on fire. you hate Sandra Scott and have hated her since she beat you. so sad let it go. she is your agenda. where do your children go to school? where does your wife work? inquiring minds want to know. How you can endorse Dowell over Baker and who is Deverick Willliams? We have never even seen or heard from him. Ed Rigdon is obviously medicated. Realtors have bombed out. Or sold out!do not vote for their candidates. we will be right back where we started from. David Barton is his own special interest. He talks out of both sides of his neck. Do not vote for his weak candidates.

By CC Person

June 20, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Simple, Trotter is a complete failure as an educator. So all Trotter can do is lie about other people to try to compensate for him being a failure. Notice Trotter does not have the guts to defend his record as a complete failure as an educator. Trotter knows he is a failure.

By Black Woman In Clayco

June 20, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Hey Annonymously Annonymous THANKS for sharing that link. That rhetoric sounds REALLY familiar, actually it reads pretty identical to the consistent ramblings by one Attn: Clayton Parents (and several aliases) on this blog day in and out.

Either that is John Trotter, or he has Attn: Clayton Parents brainwashed to his way of thinking (paging Noresse Haynes).

By So True

June 20, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

Glen Dowell IS NOT what we need for Clayton County and our children. Read for yourselves…

CLAYTON NEWS SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT Glenn Dowell, Ed.D. Publisher and Founder

http://claytonnewssettingtherecordstraight.com/

Quotes On Cynthia McKinney: “Ironically-but predictably-non of the well-known “knee-gro” congressmen from Georgia or from the Congressional Black Caucus came to her defense before or after the grand jury investigation.**

In thinking of Ms. McKinney, I think of a modern day heroine.

So it was when Ms. McKinney informed us that the public was deceived about what happened at the World Trade Center (WTC).

IT IS A SHAME THAT CLAYTON COUNTY MADE HISTORY A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN BLACKS UNSEATED VETERAN WHITE POLITICIANS.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHITES UNDERSTAND OUR HATRED TOWARDS EACH OTHER AND CAN ALWAYS RELY ON AN ELDRIN BELL TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION OF BEING THEIR “GREAT WHITE HOPE” AND FOR BLACKS: JUST A ” JOKER.”

OH-BY THE WAY, THE YOUNG MAN WHO BECAME SHERIFF WILL PROBABLY GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS ONE OF CLAYTON COUNTY’S GREATEST PUBLIC SERVANTS.

By David Barton

June 20, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

Gloria,

What does Sandra Scott (which I do not hate) have to do with any of this? My children go to school in Clayton County Public Schools and one is in Private School (which he was in before I married my wife), but my question to you is, why are my children any of your business? And where my wife works is none of your business either. So when you start bringing in my family to this, it makes me wonder of the type of character you have by doing that.

No matter what you think you know, it is obvious that you don’t know as much as you think. I have given you my phone number, now I ask you to be mature and respectful and call me and ask these questions to get the answers as opposed to making ridiculous statements on a blog. Where you get the idea that I hate Sandra Scott is absurd.

By Attn: Clayton Parents

June 20, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Anon, Anon,

I read some of Dr. Trotter’s postings on this blog; and they were “in your face” but I don’t recall them devolving into the attacks that upset White so much. I haven’t commented on the attacks because I know nothing about them. Thus, to be fair to the man, I said nothing about them.

As I said before, it greatly disappoints me when MACE members (or even people the public thinks are MACE members) get away from supporting teaching and learning conditions and into personal, petty agendas.

Have you seen a post offering even the first word of defense of Michelle Strong concerning her actions with hiring Thompson? And you won’t…

Have you seen a post where I have attacked Eddie White in the manner with which you describe? I have attacked his vote on the land deal, his vote for bringing Pulliam in, his vote for removing Norreese Haynes, and his role as part of the GAE majority voting bloc.

Even when it comes to Rod Johnson, I talked about his specific action when it came to KNOWINGLY hiring an accused child molester.

And yes I did say that I wished Eddie White had stayed on, to give the public a chance to organize a groundswell of support against the Thompson hire, even if it would have taken away power from MACE member Michelle Strong.

Trust me, it makes me even more upset when a MACE member (or again, someone the public thinks is a MACE member) betrays the public trust, because I think it takes the emphasis away from teacher and learning conditions.

That’s why you have seen ZERO defense of the Thompson hire, the persons involved (be they MACE or GAE members) and the manipulation of the process that lead up to it.

And that’s why you haven’t seen me engage in some of the personal attacks other engage in.

I’m not saying anybody is perfect. I’m saying that there is only one organization that consistently advocates for teachers in the classroom.

It’s real simple. If ALL parents would actually parent, and administrators and policy would back up teachers when it came to maintaining the integrity of the learning environment, there wouldn’t be a MACE. Teachers don’t PAY to join, unless they feel they need protection in the current teaching environment. But we don’t want to address THAT as a society; we just want to blame the messenger.

By Ed Rigdon

June 20, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

—Ed Rigdon

By Melanie2008

June 20, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Regarding the C4 event the other day, I heard that Ed was weak and had a poor showing. Everyone has bad days, but Clayton County needs MEN and WOMEN who are ready to FIGHT for the CHILDREN, not pasifits (i.e Jimmy Carter) who cannot discern the crooks and charlatans.

ED is WEAK, just like Virgina Gray and Dowell who are Trotter stoogies.

By Glenn Dowell

June 20, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

To “anonymously anonymous”, aka a “nobody” probably in real life and similar bloggers who have linked me to “Trotter” and others;

Get your facts straight:

I truly feel sorry for you. The only existence you have is adopting another identify because in real life you are truly “nobody.”

“YOU CAN BE SAVED-TELL THE TRUTH- YOU LIAR”. BY THE WAY, I DO NOT GIVE A HECK IF YOU OR SIMILAR DISPOSED BLOGGERS VOTE FOR ME AS THE 6TH DISTRICT CANDIDATE. “GET A LIFE”

GLENN DOWELL, Ed.D.

By Girl Friend Power

June 20, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

Two very strong women on the board once told me that, “To avoid criticism do nothing, say nothing, be nothing.” That why they ran for office to do all three. They said, “The world is moving so fast these days that the people who say it can’t be done is generally interrupted by someone doing it, they say they’re doing it. For years we Blacks in Clayton sat idly by and watch the greedy whites steal the tax dollars allocated to our children education, nobody did anything to stop them. The greedy whites saw their money flow from the school system was drying up. The greedy decided to employ Rod Johnson, a board member to go to SACS and destroy the board, they gave less than a damn about your 52,000+ Black kids. Now, the greedy whites are running a MEDIA BLITZ to discredit the school members. The Guilty school members have all quit, except Rod Johnson because he don’t have a job, he need that lousy $1000 a month. The greedy whites want the entire board to resign because they know the board members see them stealing. They would rather clean house and start up a new school board, one that will be blind to their thievery at least for a while. Yet, they still don’t want you the Public to see the results o a Full Forensic Financial Audit. However, as we speak they have their own Crooks positioning themselves for the school board. Their white flunkies, the ones they can invite to their exclusive clubhouses and give kickbacks for continued contracts. The Crooks are Ridgon, Baker and all the whites running for the school board. So, remember the ultimate measure of a man or woman is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. Stand Up for Something or You’ll continue to Fall for everything they’re doing to you!

By Researcher

June 20, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

If the good [Dr. Glenn Dowell] (http://www.boarddocs.com/ga/aps/Board.nsf/2e010f82a76b56d485256e7400431d45/ebaeebad2378c5e88525736a0059aa59?OpenDocument) was terminated from the Atlanta Public School System, why in the world would we want him near the Clayton County School System?

By HOG TIED

June 20, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

White people come on this forum and say Blacks are destroying this county. However, all Blacks know that the old embedded Whites with all the money. People like T. Starr, G. Buckner, C. Bray, C. Rozenheimer and the like. What Blacks in this county have the kind of MONEY to demand this kind of MEDIA? They employ Uncle Toms to do their dirty work. All you so-call political wannabes LOOK OUT they coming after you. Have they got you yet? WISE UP

By Pamela Davis

June 20, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

That fool, TRU THAT was right. Ever since I signed Bob Hartley’s Recall List I’ve been getting all kind of Telemarketers and Marketers calling and mailing me crap. I’m sorry I did it. It amazing how they get in contact with you with only your name and address. My phone number is unlisted. Be smart and Don’t sign the recall list. I should SUE Hartley.

By Realtor Too

June 20, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

Metro Realtors are playing a game with the people of Clayton County. Most of them do not live here Who is Deverick Williams in District 4? Does anybody know? John Askew would be a much better choice for District 6 than Dowell. David Barton you have lost my respect as a fellow realtor. We have not seen you on tv lately crying about how “good” people will not move here. What happened? You learned that “good” people already live here?

By Cheryl

June 20, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this

Your right Pamela, Do Not sign Bob Hartley Recall List, he’s getting your Full Name and Address and SELL it to the Telemarketer and Identity Thieves.

By Raja

June 20, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this

So True

I agree with you about Glen Dowell, he is not what we need on the board. I been to a couple of the school board forums and John Askew is the best candidate.

I already had read Mr dowell comment in the News Daily about Victor Hill going down in history as one of CC greatest public servant ever. I have no respect for anyone who think highly of Victor Hill. He is the worst thing ever happen to CC.

By Turn Clayton Around

June 20, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

Glenn Dowell believes Victor Hill will go down as one of the best public servants in Clayton County history? Cynthia McKinney a modern day heroine? A shame that blacks unseated veteran white politicians? Calling members of the Georgia assembly negro congressman? Terminated from Atlanta Schools? I’m sorry folks but he wreaks of Trotterism and even if he is not associated with Trotter, his mentality and character is not fit to make decisions for our children. We need someone else.

By Tip Of The Spear

June 21, 2008 1:50 AM | Link to this

Hog Tied & P. Davis. I’d bet you sighned up for the do not call list many years ago. How can telemarketers be calling you when there is no place for phone numbers on the petition? I know because I am working with Mr. Hartley on the petitions. So if your going to lie to the citizens at least get your lies right. Mr. Hartley is currently working with the DA, Holding secret meetings with the board members to get them to resign and on and on and on. Is he that powerful in this county? I read on this blog that he is in the pockets of Terrell Starr,m Gail Buckner and Micky Mouse. I doubt it! He is a fierce fighter for us and our county and he stands on principals. This blog is becoming iconic of what Clayton County has become!

By Tyrone LeRoy Washington

June 21, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

Bob Hartley has a slate of candidates who are running for the BOE. Is that a conflict of interest? I read on this blog where he is also working with the DA to have BOE members indicted. So what is your motivation Mr. Hartley? Are you on someones payroll? You are the house ni##er aren’t you? Why don’t you come on here and defend yourself? Those strong black sisters on the school board have the children’s best interest at heart and here you go circulating petitions to get rid of them. I also noticed that since I signed the petition, I’m paying .13 cent more per therm! Are you working for the Mega Gas companies as well? Gas is $ 4.12 per gallon and I think you have had a hand in that as well. Don’t you know that John Trotter is trying to restore dicipline back in the schools? He is what the colored people in Clayton County needs. Stop all your backroom deal making to rid the school board of those proud, beautiful and caring black women on the BOE. Bob, I don’t know you but you are not going to EVER be able to tell me what I should or should not vote for. As far as I’m concerned, You have too much power and sway in this county and people don’t really know you or your intentions. Barack Obama is also an unknown. John McCain is a good, honest, God fearing Christian while Barack praises Alah. Bob, are you also a muslim? Do you believe all white people are devils like Barack Obama? Bob, you shold go back to Africa where you can swing on vines and live like the rest of the apes. Do you think you can be a house n**** and ask illigal mexicans to vote for you? You won’t be the Clerk of Court because I will work day and night against you. You should be more like Lee Scott or Ron Paul, they know how to inspire people and acomplish things. VOTE NO BOB HARTLEY FOR CLERK OF COURT!

By Bob Hartley

June 21, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

Mr. Washington,

You Friggin MORON!

Did you take your meds today?

By So True

June 21, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this

So True did not post this someone has jacked me for my user name, not cool GETB Members. This is why I hate to Blog on the AJC because you can say you are anybody. By So True June 20, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this Glen Dowell IS NOT what we need for Clayton County and our children. Read for yourselves… CLAYTON NEWS SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT Glenn Dowell, Ed.D. Publisher and Founder http://claytonnewssettingtherecordstraight.com/ Quotes On Cynthia McKinney: “Ironically-but predictably-non of the well-known “knee-gro” congressmen from Georgia or from the Congressional Black Caucus came to her defense before or after the grand jury investigation.** In thinking of Ms. McKinney, I think of a modern day heroine. So it was when Ms. McKinney informed us that the public was deceived about what happened at the World Trade Center (WTC). IT IS A SHAME THAT CLAYTON COUNTY MADE HISTORY A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN BLACKS UNSEATED VETERAN WHITE POLITICIANS. UNFORTUNATELY, WHITES UNDERSTAND OUR HATRED TOWARDS EACH OTHER AND CAN ALWAYS RELY ON AN ELDRIN BELL TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION OF BEING THEIR “GREAT WHITE HOPE” AND FOR BLACKS: JUST A ” JOKER.” OH-BY THE WAY, THE YOUNG MAN WHO BECAME SHERIFF WILL PROBABLY GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS ONE OF CLAYTON COUNTY’S GREATEST PUBLIC SERVANTS.

Sorry raja but you agree with a coward.

By LaughingDaily

June 22, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this

This forum is a riot! I can’t wait to read the new posts here. Every idiot in the county must post here. Freeloaders looking for political positions,idiots supporting Victor Idiot Hill, black and white racists,whinners,crooks, and loosers. Isn’t diversity grand?

By Still A Victor Hill Supporter

June 22, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this

To LaughingDaily

You forgot idiots that do not support Victor Hill.

Isn’t diversity grand?

By A Child of God

June 22, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this

To: TYRONE LEROY WASHINGTON?? or Who ever you are!!

“SATAN” is crazy and is really at work in your life! Why are you on this blog writting foolishness? Especially someone you don’t even know (Bob Hartley). I know for a fact that if “YOU” had a true relationship with God “YOU” wouldn’t say and do things to offend HIM or HIS children, or His child. When you point a finger at Bob or anyone you have three pointing back at you and one pointing towards heaven.

Remember! This list of insults can go on and on, you are good at insulting, but when you write again on this blog, why don’t you take a look at yourself first, your heart, and the motives you have concerning your writtings;

To: Bob, continue to do what you are doing. We already know who has the victory!!! Everything belongs to God, Everything comes from God and Everything is distributed by God.

Mr. Washington or who ever you are? I hope you went to church today (Sunday).

Many Blessings

A Child of God.

By L.E.

June 23, 2008 7:57 AM | Link to this

Mr. Bob Hartley is a proven fighter for us. He is a mans man and I think because of that he is admired by many and loathed by his opponents. What is our excuse for sitting behind the screen and spewing nothing but lies?

By Clayton County Council of PTAs

June 23, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this

Reminder: C4-Concerned Citizens of Clayton County in collaboration with the Clayton County Council of PTAs will host a Board of Education District 6 candidate Meet & Greet on Tuesday, June 24, 6:30pm at the Jim Huie Recreation Center. (Jim Huie Recreation Center is located in Linquist Aquatic Center, next to the Courthouse/Jail on Tara Blvd)

By Curious1

June 23, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this

Clayton County is Hatred. This is all you see and hear. Fussing, cussing and name calling. Maybe we would not be in such bad shape if we grew up first and act like adults. Blacks hating black whites hating white, white hating blacks, blacks hating whites. What the hell is wrong with you people. We are trying to get a respected county back and some of us don’t respect ourselves none the less others.

We have a lot of work to do if we want the respect of other counties.

This county is in a mess and a disgrace.

By THE SOURCE

June 23, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this

The AJC/WSB forum of the school board candidates was a deliberate attack on character. The current candidates are being persecuted due to the current state of the board. It is unfair but is expected with the territory.

Now that we are entering into the final weeks before the primary, the SOURCE has decided to endorse the following candidates:

District 2: Lindsey McDaniel III District 3: Tammy Hardy District 4: Deverick Williams District 5: Diana Nicholson District 6: Mary Baker District 7: C. Denese Sampson District 8: Ed Rigdon

The SOURCE is closer to the election than many realize.

By THE SOURCE

June 23, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

If CHANGEis what we are looking for on our school board then we, (THE SOURCE) highly suggest that you reconsider your vote if you are considering any of the following candidates:

District 2:Lois Baines-Hunter District 3: Jesse Goree District 3: Blondie Christian District 4: Michael King District 4: Milton Mack District 6: Glenn Dowell

The SOURCE is closer to the election than many realize.

By Admission by John

June 23, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE reading these needs to understand one thing. The person who is writing all of these negative blogs is John Trotter. The reason is this; the house of cards is falling on and around him and he needs to try and bring confrontation to the public so he can appear to be a viable entity for the public and schools. He slams anyone who may be a political threat to him. Why do you think he reports on discipline so much and the documented 3000+ fights? One answer; CEP, John was going to be paid off and receive a kick-back from CEP. It is about the money and contracts. If John Trotter can show that there are problems in the schools, then John Trotter can have his “plants” on the board to vote on CEP, not because it is a good program, but because he was to receive a kick-back. Now that he was unsuccessful with his puppet Norreessee gone, he is running dry and needs to drum up business again and there is no one who believes in him and now the house of cards is about to fall. You all think the board members are up there working for the kids, you are wrong; they are working for John Trotter. That is why 3 of the 5 remaining on the board went with John Trotter and Norreessee to CEP’s headquarters to meet with them, and from there all of the backroom deals were made …Jobs, contracts, friends, family, kick-backs….looks like the man behind the curtain is being revealed…Thanks for undermining all of the kids hopes and dreams for your personal gain John Trotter! I want you all to understand how dangerous this man is for our county’s stability. VOTE informed.

By Researcher2

June 23, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

This is my first time on a blog but I have been attending the forums on a regular basis. I agree with some of the information said about the cadidates.

I live in the sixth district and there is no way that I will vote for Mary Baker. She is closely aligned with the Lake Spivey Group, including some attorneys who see her as a patsy that can be manipulated for their personal gain. She was pathetic at the Atlanta ConStitution/WSB-TV forum last night. Give her an audience and she will repeat the same script crap she repeats at all the forums. Everyone is tired of her mock trial crap that she recites assuming that this will cause her to appear smart. I hope all the voters know that we need more than another flunky on the board whose only qualification is that she has attended a lot of board meeting: so has the friendly custodian who opens and closes the building for each meeting.

I am looking at John Askew or Glenn Dowell for district six.

I did my research on Dowell and he does not appear to care what is said in this blog and has challenged everybody to make him out of a liar.

My research revealed that he was fired from the Atlanta Board of Education for having a school board member arrested. He had tenure from what I discovered and the termination was a moot issue. Dowell prevailed with the State Board of Education and won a substantial sum of money as a result of the stupidity of the Atlanta System. The legal document indicated he could have continued in his old old but chose not to do so.

I also went on his website and discovered that he helped some county get off probation under the No Child Left Behind Act.

On another subject, I like the Georgia State University guy who is running for the Board of Education. He should not care that he was not endorsed by Sid Chapman’s CCEA group. People are now seeing Chapman for what he is: the overseer of a lot of teachers who do not know any better. Chapman is just as dangerous to the schools as is John Trotter.

The following is my list of buffoons and people who if elected could possibly be a conduit for enabling their handlers (masters) to pimp the public:

I also am tired of this racial crap on the blog-vote for the best candidate.

SEE YA!!!