Clayton.Talk

By Red

April 15, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

It’s great that there are several groups working to make this a better county. I wonder what would happen if they all teamed up together!!! Numbers is power. Ower Kids deserve a good education and, a safe place to live as all citizens in this county.

If we could all stop fighting and work together for the betterment of this county,I believe it would work but, everyone wants to be chief. We do need indians. I have met 2 ladies that want to run for the school board. Very educated and sharp. I spoke with both and will definately support them.

By Kimberly Allen

April 15, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Amen Red!

I have attended meetings where a few of these groups have tried to come together for the greater good, it may take some time but I think it is happening slowly but surely.

Sorry for the jumbled paragraphs above, I’ll talk to TPTB about separating some of those paragraphs so it looks/reads better. There is so much info above and the program only holds a certain amount of words so that may be why.

Have a good day & week Clayton!

Kimberly Allen

By Teacher

April 15, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

Until we get rid of the current schhol board members this school district can not be saved. I wonder how many of you attended the school board meeting last night, it was a joke they had us sitting and waiting for hours while they were back there fighting over nameing Cephus Jackson he corrective supertindent what a joke I feel sorry for he teachers in in Clayco.

By Larry

April 15, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Tell me you are telling the biggest fib. Cephus Jackson would be disaster. You are kidding, aren’t you? Cephus Jackson??? He put us on SACS the first time! Lois Hunter, Strong, Everett, Ashe, etc. They all just sat there and looked somewhat studpid. It looks like Eddie White is running the show because he is taking his directions from Elgart and Brock.

By Clayton Mother

April 15, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Larry,

“It looks like Eddie White is running the show because he is taking his directions from Elgart and Brock.”

Isn’t that kinda who we need to be listening to right now? Let’s get our heads above water first and then concentrate getting ourselves on land.

By Willa

April 15, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

I agree with larry. Cephus Jackson would be a terrible choice for superintendent. I thought they wanted someone who was an experienced superintendent. I don’t think that Cephus Jackson has ever been a supertindent. I think he worked in Houston. Didn’t Houston’s superintendent get caught cheating on standardized tests?

By Mark McCanaugha

April 15, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

It’s refreshing to see these organizations involved and working to save Clayton County. The voters must do their part and engage the candidates or we will end up with another bunch of morons in office. I’m looking for candidates to emerge so I can pose questions and thus form an opinion on whether to vote for them or not. Of all the candidates for political office, I’ve only met and talked to Bob Hartley and Ernest Strozier. Both of those gentelmen are the real thing. Bob has a clear vision of where he wants to take the Clerk of Court office and has the experience and ability to do it. Strozier is well qualified to be Sheriff. He stated he is in command at the College Park PD and defined what his action plan would be when elected. NO INCUMBENT SHOULD RECIVE ONE VOTE! based upon the condition of this county. You can go to Bob’s site at www.myspace.com/bobhartley08 and Stroziers site at www.strozierforsheriff.org. Do your homework and vote for the best qualified this year. Lord knows we can’t stand another four years of the same!

By Larry

April 15, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Clayton Mother, Maybe you are right. But, we waited for what seemed like hours while the board met secretly with Mark Elgart and Brock. Are they allowed to meet with the school board behind closed doors and talk behind closed doors just because a subject is sensitive? There is a law against that, I believe. It just looks like to me that Eddie White has become their puppet on a string. Then, it is not the Clayton County School Board but the Northside (North Fulton and Cobb) School Board. I know that the board appears so dysfunctional, but I do not like the Northsiders treating Clayton County people like we are are all dumb butts. It seems that many people want to live outside Clayton County (perhaps even “Clayton Mother” really lives in Fayette County) and still work in the Clayton County School System. I don’t know. Maybe I am wrong.

By Red

April 15, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Thanks Kimberly. We must work together if we are going to pull this off. We as adults need to be an example for our kids. They do not need to see adults fighting like this. What I am seeing with the school board is a lot of bad choices which we as a county need to help change. These kids are our future and again, this is not about them, it is about adults that can’t and won’t get it together. What a shame!!!

By Shanda Miller

April 15, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

I agree with Mark. I have not had the opportunity to meet with Mr. Strozier but I did meet with Mr. Rainwater. He is a nice man who is qualified to be Sheriff. Experience is very important this election.

I met Mr. Hartley at our HOA meeting and the man is dynamic! We would be well served by Mr. Hartley. I’m impressed with his credentials. I will not vote for anyone in office now because they have failed us in this county. I look forward to meeting the other candidates as well. Who is Lee Scott? I got a postcard in the mail from him and he appears to be qualified for Chairman. I like the fact that he is a business mindset but I don’t know too much about him.

By BillyRip

April 15, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Peace & Monique, Bob Hartley, Peace & Monique are HORSESAZZES and SCAM Artist every election year they crawl from under the molded green rocks by the polluted pond and try to recruit half wit voters into voting for a bottom feeder thus throwing our county into a Quagmire. This is the same reason this county is in this Quandary. Remember these three SCAM Artists at this point; SCAM means (Suckers Conspiring to Acquire Money).

By Dr. Hilda

April 15, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Students Helping Awful Mothers Everyday (SHAME) is a very dedicated group trying to cope with the fact that they simply have awful mothers. The members of this growing group (which meets, I think, in a restaurant like Golden Corral or Ryan’s) realize that the largest impediment to their self-actualization is dealing with their dysfunctional families (and in particular their irate and irresponsible mothers who abuse them at home and then abuse their teachers at school). I would hope that many of our leaders like Bob Hartley, Larry O’Keefe, Super Dad Williams (isn’t he still the head of the DADS organization?), Barton (the real estate guy) and all of the other leaders would unite together and raise money for SHAME instead of just blasting the school board. Focus needs to be put on SHAME. In the third week of May, SHAME-AWARENESS WEEK will be launched. If Cephus Jackson is installed by Mr. Elgart as Clayton County’s new superintendent, then I would hope that he too would participate in the activities of SHAME. This realistic group which is really helping students traverse the psychological terrain in their minds (and just to understand in a gestalt fashion the field forces within their minds) deserves the assistance of all of our leaders. Sometimes a simple hot dog and Coke and a rally down 42 Highway will not solve a student’s real problems. Sometimes, it is as simple as having been raised by a crazy mother. This is why it is so important for the Super Dads to get involved. I hope that they will not just toot their own horns (and use this school board stuff as a platform to run for office), but will roll up their sleeves (so to speak) and provide resources, time, and assistance for SHAME.

By Yeah, right

April 15, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

To Shanda Miller,

Lee Scott is the husband of our pathetic, unqualified district attorney, Jewel Scott (wonder if they get 2 for 1 discounts on all those billboards they’ve got plastered all over the county?)

Lee Scott has run for office SEVERAL times in this county and has LOST every single time to my knowledge. He has a reputation for being dirty and power hungry, so please do not be fooled by his glossy political postcards and billboards. Same for his wife, Jewel, she needs to go as well in my opinion but do your own research and determine that for yourself.

Speaking of which, I’d love to know how Lee Scott manages to finances all of these failed runs for office, is there a tax benefit to that?

By Lisa

April 15, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

I just love Bob Hartley. I met him at one of his rallies. He is fantasitc, great, super, wonderful, wonderful, woonderful(and not a SCAM artist, Billy Rip). He is the best thing that ever came to Clayton county from Calfornia. I looooooooooooooooooove Bob Hartley!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bob HArtley is wonderfullllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!

YEA Bob!!!!!!!!!!!!! and he will get elected on the web blogging. We are love Bob!!!!!!!! BOOOOOOOOOO Rod Johnsno. FAke Falke Fake Fake Fake He and Cephus Jackson brought us SACS. We love Bob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please put this brother in office. He is wonderfullllllll! He has dedicated himself for so long to get elected. Please join the Bob Harley Cruseade for Winning. I lvoe Bob Hartley!

Bob Haretly is our man!!!!

By Political Insider

April 15, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Hey people, There a very capable educated female working in the Clerk of County Court Office now; she’s running for the seat. She has several years working with the retiring Clerk. Keep the continuity and stability in this position. Bob Hartley and Rod Johnson disturb this continuity. As soon a you see her “the choice will be CLEAR” Thanks

By Jeff

April 15, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Cephus Jackson

Cephus Jackson

Cephus Jackson

SACS

SACS

SACS

I can see Rod Johnson pushing for him. Both filed complaints with SACS. We can thank both of these gentlemen for SACS. Thank you, Cephus. Thank you, Rod. You guys really help increase the value of my property. Thank you very much.

Hey, David and Lois, this will look great on a political flyer. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha…sorry…but I can’t stop laughing! Ha ha ha ha ha hahahahahahahha!

By Concerned Clayton Citizen

April 15, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

Every day I watch informaiton come out and I see nothing that makes sense from the school board. I can not believe, that a group of people who have been asked by the Governor of our state and everyone else, to resign are still hanging on to a $11,000.00 job. What are they trying to hide? What have they done that is so bad they are aftaid to let and audit take place? I pray that someone can cause this removal to take place and give the children of Clayton County a chance. They are paying for the misdeeds of the present school board.

I have served as a school board member and am astonished at the manner in which this boards does business. It is the most disrespectful, dishonest and self absorbed group of selfish people I have seen in one group. I pray for relief from such groups for the purpose of help for our children.

Should a board member own a home and live in it for the district they represent? The answer is yes, if now why should they care. If this is not policy, it should be and Clayton County has a Board of Elections. Maybe they need to wake up and smell the roses too. I’ve called them and thier answer on most things is, we haven’t done that in the past. Well, people the past is over, today is now. Positive changes need to be made and I welcome some imput for the Board of Elections from our BOC. We must bring all of Clayton County into this century. The “good ‘ole boy” days are past, please let us all pull together as caring human beings who own homes, are rasing or have raised our families and put all of our time and money into homes in Clayton County and want to see the best happen for it. Some of us have been here and worked for years and now see it all falling apart.

We don’t need Lee Scott. We need someone but it is not him. I also have met several candidates but most have not come forward. I hope soon all candidates will be publicly announced so we can do our research and make good choices in July.

God Bless Clayton County

By Jeasus Freak

April 15, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

WOW! Go Bob!

By Rex/Morrow Civic Asso.

April 15, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

Lisa, you said,”Please put this brother in office”; that’s close to what Bob Hartley ran on last time. “Put a Brother in Office”, however this time we country Claytonites phrase it “Don’t Put a Sap Sucker in Office”. Take that back to California and Smoke it. You’re down south now “Gal”.

By George

April 15, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Is Dorsey Hopson a lawyer or a political panderer? I am glad that he is going home to Memphis. Maybe Mommie can take care of him. He didn’t last a year in Clayco. Did he really have two different contracts in Clayton County? Has anyone reported this to the State Bar of Georgia? What about the Glenn Brock lawyer? Isn’t he required by the Bar rules to provide a vigorous defense for his client (the school board). Why did he sell all of the Clayton County School Board members down the river by calling for their resignations? He appears to be a shameless lawyer. How long will he last? Did the board get rid of him in executive seesion last night? He was hired in the open, and I would think that he should be let go in the open, if the board did indeed get rid of him. He is not “personnel” and this matter would have to be discussed in the open, I would think. But, what do I know?

By Clerk of Court Employee

April 15, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

Last week in the News Daily there was a front page story about how a young woman spent a week in jail because of a error made in the clerks office. She paid her traffic fine yet was still incarcerated. There have been several”errors” which have led to people being unjustly jailed. The Clerks office is about 15 years behind other clerks. Is this the continuity you desire? What if it was you who was unjustly imprisoned because of an error? Read the article for yourself.

By Clayton Voter Man

April 15, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

I was in the same boat. I paid my court fine for and got a recipt. My violation was no proof of insurance since it had lapsed, my fine was paid but they did not update the computer to say that I paid the fine. I was stopped in Morrow and sent to jail for failur to pay a fine. Lucky for me, I had that recipt. The judge dismissed the new charges and I was released. I TOTALY relate to what happened to this lady. if anyone is running for the clerk job based on their experience in that office, they don’t need to campaign.

By Buckwheat & Sambo

April 15, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

The Clayton County School Board and its citizens have a literacy problem, Elgart, Bryant and Bostic; their advisors have already stated the following requirements for the county to keep accreditation. “We need to look at excellent and very capable white person in Georgia who understand the state laws and understand how to get things done in Georgia.” Clayton’s superintendent will be a white person and also needs to have a positive record as superintendent. “The white person selected needs to have a successful track record as a superintendent, knowledge and experience in how people do business in the state of Georgia. That means No Woods, No Thompson, No Pulliam and No C. Jackson. Let the Chamber of Commerce, the Glee Club other like organizations make the selection Clayton’s citizens don’t know how to vote; bring in the “Great White Hope”. “Come on people, I need my accreditation, I don’t care if we’re “disenfranchised”.

By Peace

April 15, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

Billy Rip- Sounds like your a litle P** off!! OOHH Well… I hope you have a nice day.

By s

April 15, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Clayton is not the only county that makes those kinds of errors. I had no insurance in Henry. Paid the fine right after court and weeks later, got a letter saying a warrant had been issued because I violated my probation. Thank God I kept the receipt.

Anyway, we are all human, even civil service employees. Let’s don’t start wagging fingers at Clerk of Court. This blog is about the School board.

By Yeah, right

April 15, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

Actually this blog is about the community organizations that are trying to improve things in Clayton County, and the fact that they need assistance from residents of the community!

Hopefully more of us will get involved and not just sit on our butts blogging/venting about what’s wrong in our county.

By Red

April 15, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

Billy Rip

You just need to pray that you don’t bust hell wide open. YOu are so nasty and hateful. You need a council to help you with your anger and issues.

By Jellybean

April 15, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Buckwheat and Sambo, Don’t worry, Eddie White that 74 year old (Uncle Tom) will delivery your “Great White Hope” and save accreditation. Also stop asking, because you won’t get an Unbiased, Independent Financial Forensic Audit. You folks can’t handle the TRUTH. All he need is you guys and 200,000 other “Black Souls” in the county. I’m sorry guys “My Soul Ain’t for sale”.

By SACS & Gov@Bums.com

April 15, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

We though Clayton animals would attack us at that Clayton’s school board meeting last night, that’s why we brought Georgia’s finest “Georgia State Patrol” with us along. I haven’t ever seen so many Nappy Heads in one place in my life. Thank God, Bless America.

By The White Man

April 15, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

If someone else is running for Clerk of Court they better start getting out there. Bob is leading the pack right now and Rod Johnson is doomed. I know Bob came by my house but I was at work. he left a door knob hangar on my door. If the lady that works in the Clerks office choses to run it would appear to be a hell of a roll of the dice. If she lost, does that mean she would lose her job or will he remove her under snipers? LOL

By BilboRip

April 15, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

Dr. Hilda,

Red,Bob Hartley, Anthony Williams, David Barton and Larry Okeefe are a bunch of Political Grandstanders. You’ll be better off selling Girl Scout Cookies than depending on this DEAD WEIGHT. The cub scouts may be better.

By Common Sense

April 15, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Trotter, Billy Rip, Dummie…. I see your “Boy” Noreese didn’t get back on the board last night. Don’t worry arguing and fighting with Dorsey Hopson(the school staff attorney)is not going to get him back on the board. Just take a “chill pill” and run your fake teachers’ union or why don’t you and Rev. Haynes send a prayer out to “God” and ask him to please reinstate a liar and a fake pastor back onto the school board. Oh, I forgot the bible says, “The Lord does not like hypocrites.”

By Clayton County Democratic Party

April 15, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

We is havin a candates forom on april 29, at the morrwo citi hall blg. all pepole seeking offcie should plan to attend to be asked about they qulificitions. For more informotion call the party at 404-397-7160

By BillyRip

April 15, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

Common Sense, You can’t fit a whole lot of common sense in a BALL POINT PIN HEAD. You have to be perhaps, the stupidest persons that ever blogged. Hey, by the way who is Trotter?

By $$$ NO LEE SCOTT$$$

April 15, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

LEE SCOTT IS A CROOK! HE CONTROLS THE CLAYTON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC PARTY and all the other assclowns who are destroying the county. VOTE NO LEE SCOTT!!! VOTE NO CLAYTON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!

By Bilbo

April 15, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

Jellybean, I beleive you brother, Eddie White old senile butt will give us his buddy; the good ol’ superintendent Dan Colwell. Then the warden, Mark Elgart will release our accreditation. Man, you those Darkies never Learn. Ha Ha Ha!!!

By Tom

April 15, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

Good luck folks. After reading a few of the comments posted here I have reached the conclusion that Clayton County has the government they deserve and that if elections were held today most of those currently holding office would win again. All of you deserve it!

By The Republican

April 15, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

Are you telling me if we bring in a white superintendent; we instantly get our accreditation back? Wow, bring the good old boy in immediately.

By BillyRip

April 15, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Red, Monique and Peace tell all your Chicken Head friends, every time you guys come out here talking about that Snake Belly Bob Hartley, I will come back even stronger. Get that Snake and take him back to the High Grass. You guys are so much FUN!!!

By Betty Jean

April 15, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

Hey BilliyRip, I don’t know alot about Bob Hartley but I do know that Eddie White cheated on his wife with a hooker asked Eileen his wife she told everybody last year. And his the board chair.

By No More MACE, No More MACE

April 15, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

I see the head of Trotter raises his serpentine head again, only using his other names while casting lies. Can’t post under Attn: Clayton Parents after the “fight?” Let’s see - arrested multiple times, your executive director is removed, your other flunkies on the board cannot speak or write english, and you resort to lies now that you aren’t getting your way? Dorsey really did a number on you and your boy Haynes. Guess its got you all rattled now. LOL. You don’t know what you don’t know and its killing you ain’t it.

By Attn: Clayton Parents

April 16, 2008 7:26 AM | Link to this

No more MACE,

I see you find it so difficult to refute anything I actually post, that you are reduced to pure, rampant speculation as to who I might be. I find it instructive that you appear to be proud of the fact that Hopson is obstructing the law when it comes to Norreese Haynes, seeing as the Secretary of State’s Office has totally vindicated him. Perhaps we do need a full grand jury investigation into , Ericka Davis’s and Eldrin Bell’s actions in this, (as well as Hopson’s illegal contract) as it appears Haynes’ (and the voters who elected him) have had their civil rights violated.

As far as Dr. Trotter being arrested “multiple times,” I would say you have a “point” but your point is so intellectually bereft that it’s more of a dull, amorphous blob. It might be a point if he had actually been convicted, but otherwise all you’ve done is given him a de facto admission that he has been an agent of positive change in the county. Think of it this way: (I suspect you may be a mouth-breather, so perhaps you should sit down with one of ClayCo’s excellent teachers to help you understand the following analogy)

If Martin Luther King had argued solely for the right of people to eat french fries, he never would have had the opportunity to write “Letters from a Birmingham Jail” as he never would have been considered enough of a threat to the status quo to have been arrested. Obviously, as head of MACE, Trotter has been a harbinger of change for supporting the classroom teacher in matters of discipline, and that’s why GAE members such as Davis have been so “rattled” they’ve attempted to misuse the legal process against MACE members.

The key, No More MACE, is that he has never been convicted because we have this quaint little thing called the rule of law in our country. That, in a nutshell is why Trotter has been arrested but NOT convicted.

Many agents of change from King, all the way back to Joan of Arc and beyond, have suffered the slings and arrows as the status quo has used the legal process (in Trotter’s case illegally) to attack them.

Trotter and MACE have made the case that you simply cannot have good learning conditions without good teaching conditions, and ClayCo is a living example of that.

Now, No More MACE, please offer us a rebuttal since you are so anti-MACE and make a case for the status quo that has been created by the GAE majority voting bloc on the board. Tell us how the following from “the status quo” has served us so well:

-the land deal

-3,000+ documented fights

-MASSIVE teacher turnover (see the above fights as a main reason; this according to the system’s own surveys)

-abysmal test scores (no support for discipline, no learning)

-the reign of error that was Pulliam (if you are spending more time being spineless on discipline because you are too busy trying to create jobs for cronies-jobs that you couldn’t even provide job descriptions for-a “reign of error” is, and was, the most likely outcome)

-loss of accreditation (yes the members of the GAE majority voting bloc threw the ENTIRE system under the bus, NOT Trotter, Haynes or MACE)

Yes, No more MACE, we can’t wait for you to tell us what a WONDERFUL job the GAE majority voting bloc has done in ClayCo. Go ahead; make our day.

By mlk

April 16, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

John Trotter, you are such a transparent clown. You and your boyfriend Noresee Haynes need to climb back into the hole you came from. The county is all over you and you and your boyfriend will not recover this time.

By Intheknow

April 16, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

By Attn: Clayton Parents

HOW DARE YOU USE DR. KING IN THE SAME POST UPHOLDING MR. TROTTER OR MR. HAYNES AND THEIR FAKE UNION. DR. KING IS ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE OF THE MESS TROTTER HAS BROUGHT UNON CLAYTON COUNTY.

By MThreatt

April 16, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

I see that Trotter rattled Dorsey Hopson. I have known of Trotter for years. He can shake and bake. He can rattle people (especially lawyers) when he thinks that they are engaging in b-ll sh-t. From what I read in the papers, Hopson’s recommendation to the school board to allow the court to decide about Haynes was pure political sophistry. The court action will become totally moot when the board acknowledges its egregious wrong which it committed against Norreese Haynes and welcomes him back on the school board as the Georgia Secretary of State says it should do. Obviously, at that point there would be no reason continue the Temporary Restraining Order (TRO). Trotter just called out Hopson on his b-ll sh-t recommendation. I read in the local paper where Hopson questioned whether Trotter could pass the Bar Exam. I presume that a person takes the Bar Exam if they want to be a lawyer and represent other people in court. Trotter apparently does not want to represent other people in court. He has never taken the Bar Exam. But, I have seen him representing himself in court, and it is a sight to behold. I have heard of the many stories of him representing teachers in administrative hearings, and these stories are now legendary. That is why school systems will do anything (mostly negotiate with him behind the scenes) to keep him from representing teachers in hearings. His mind is a steel trap, and he is ferocious in a hearing. “mlk,” compared to Trotter, Dorsey Hopson is like a little whipped puppy. I see that Trotter rattled the h-ll out of Hopson. Hopson will do well to go back to Memphis. He cannot handle Trotter.

By Jeff

April 16, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

“Intheknow”: The truth of the matter is that you and probably Eddie White would have been one of those weenie (spineless) preachers in B’ham to whom Dr. King was addressing his now-famous letter. You need to “know” your history. How dare you pontificate when you do not “know” crap.

By Know the Turth

April 16, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Friends…know the truth…90% of the posts on here are from Trotter and Haynes under assumed names…best would be for Kimberly to check the source IP addresses of the posters to verify this for us all.

By jj

April 16, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

I believe that the demographics have changed and the “new” power reality in Clayton and has yielded some interesting results. Many will look and see this in a racial prism. When in reality what you see is a majority “poor” district of uneducated people with a significant “renter” population. This produces a climate for the “race” hucksters to play their game. So how is that working out for ya?

By shadowwolf@gmail.com

April 16, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Everyone with a brain knows that SACS came 5 years ago be3cause of Nedra Ware and the 4 “me too” MACE members and their John Trotter induced - “hate the white man” “new sheriff in town” rampage. Now - this time, the main reason is the 3 Trotter associates and their antics that brought SACS. The only time in the past 6 years we have had progress in our schools was the 2 years the MACE zombies were not on the BOE, after Nedra and before Noreese.

By Dr. John Trotter

April 16, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

I am calling out all comers for a formal debate with written propositions to AFFIRM or DENY. Can anyone come up with even three substantive things that the school board did wrong to cause the cry baby Mark Elgart to put the entire school system on probabtion? I will start with Mark Elgart himself, then go to Kathy Cox, then James Bostic and Brad Bryant. Please contact me and name the time and place. We could probably draw a crowd. I also invite Sonny to participate. Oh, let’s not leave out journalists Maureen Downey and Dick Williams who both like to rail against the Clayton School Board. What I see concerning the seven members who now serve on the school board is fear and inaction. They appear to have turned over the reigns to Mark Elgart. (Funny how the AJC excoriated the high and mighty Elgart with his apparent blatant violation of the Open Meetings Law. Isn’t this another matter which Norreese Haynes kept harping on, but which fell on deaf ears? Yep.) At the school board meeting on Monday evening, I talked to a local lawyer (a white one who like most of the white antagonist is probably still smarting over the notion that Dan Colwell was fired in 2003). He wanted to use pejoratives against the board members (and one member in particular). I calmly asked him if he could name three substantive things which they did wrong. He apparently could not. I reduced the request to just one thing. He apparently got frustrated and started railing against me, and of course I did not sit sublimely and allow this to continue. But, I do prefer formal debates with each side AFFIRMING and/or DENYING propositions. Therefore, I am waiting patiently for Mark Elgart to participate since it certainly looked like he was making reference to me in his pitiful Report. I am also willing to take on Mr. Williamson, Mr. O’Keefe, Mr. Barton, or even the Mr. Lawyer who got so frustrated that I questioned his use of the word “buffoon” in describing one of the board members. Do you think that he would have used the word “baboon” if he were in a company made up exclusivley by European Americans? It kind of has me wondering. Mark Elgart, in my opinion, created this mass hysteria which leads to mob action. We often engage in chronological egotism and act as if we surely would have been courageous had we lived in such and such time period. I wonder how many of us would have fought against the horrific mob mentality of say, 1915. Would we have fought against the ravenous mob of Cobb County who stormed the state prison in Milledgeville and hijacked Leo Frank and took him back to Marietta where he was lynched in a carnival atmosphere with “Fiddling John” Carson entertaining the crowd? This anti-semitism (and also the virulent racism of the day) gave rise to more organized efforts. In the same year of the Leo Frank lynching, 1915, the new Ku Klux Klan was inaugurated atop Stone Mountain. Today’s Klanners do not necessarily wear sheets, but don business attire. The hatred is still there. It is more subtle, more dangerous, and more insideous. I am ready to take on all who accept the challenge. (I made this same challenge a few times a couple of weeks ago. I am disappointed that no one has jumped at the opportunity to “get Trotter.” I am very disappointed. Everyone seems to want to write about me anonymously but no one seems to want to take me up on this very generous offer.) Mark Elgart of Dorsey Hopson. Mr. O’Keefe or Mr. Williamson. You know how to contact me. My name is John Trotter. Do I need to send some more crying towels to the Dan Colwell camp?

By Dr. John Trotter

April 16, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Hey “Shadow”: All of you Cowellites are afraid to use your own name. But, please come forward and accept my challenge. Please.

As “Attn: Parents” eloquently points out, GAE had (until Ericka resigned) four people on the board. (No, this blogger is also not me, but I know who he is.) This GAE bloc was, with David Ashe, the working majority. Only Ms. Strong is a MACE member (and I only affirm this because she has openly stated her membership). Norreese Haynes works at MACE. Yolanda Everett had been a MACE member on the school board until 2003. I think that she now is a GAE member. Ericka did a thorough job of co-opting her.

Sandra Scott and Lois Baines-Hunter have never been members of MACE — not for a single moment. But, I can see that anything that a board member does that you do not like, you say that he or she is a “MACE member.” That’s fine. I guess MACE is the Levitical scapegoat for the Colwellites. Yes, I think that I attended one board meeting in about three years (during the Wonderful Years of Pulliam). In June of 2004, I attended and spoke at a board meeting. I let Pulliam know that she was now in Georgia and that she was expected to follow the Georgia law relative to hearing grievances. The late Jean Hicks called me the next day, and the matter was settled. I next attended a board meeting in December of 2006 because I wanted to see Connie Kitchens and LaToya Walker serve their LAST board meeting. I was glad to see them get defeated. I worked hard to see Walker go down in defeat. I was the first person (before CCEA, the Chamber, News/Daily, AJC) who publicly called for the resignations of Ware, Walker, Kitchens, and Kellum — just a small fact which people seem to forget. However, Colwell still should have been fired. He had been downright openly rude and ugly to Ware, Kitchens, and Crummy when his team was in the majority. But, the Ware Gang hired the wrong person to re-place Colwell.

I next attended the January board meetings on the 9th and 16th of 2007. At the 16th meeting, I was falsely arrested and the charges were summarily dropped two or three weeks later. (As Churchill said, “There is not a more exhilirating feeling than to be shot at and missed.” I have had this exhilirating feeling many times.)

“Shadow,” have you ever considered that perhaps Kimberly enjoys my writings? After all, she’s from New York City and has not ax to grind. She is no hero-worshipper of Dan Colwell like you apparently are.

Hey, I have to run now. I have had too much fun. Now, you anonymous bloggers, have at it! But, don’t forget to take me up on my challenge. This is like Intellectual Dueling. I love it!

By Rodney King

April 16, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Can’t we all just get along?

By Straight No Chaser

April 16, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Mr. Trotter it looks like someone riled you up enough for you to post under your real name aka Clayton Parents aka Dead Poet aka Just a plain ole thorn in the side.

Let me ask you this Mr. Trotter….do you really care about the kids in Clayton County? The parents of the county have spoken. We want ALL (to the exclusion of none) of the board members to resign!!! One thing that Elgart did get right in his report is that the board is dysfunctional. Since you have some Mace members remaining on the board why don’t you ask them to resign? You’ve got the power don’t you or is it that you have had a grudge against the Clayco school system and will do anything to exert power over it.

I’ll give it to you that you know the letter of the law. It is very evident in you playing the residential shell game with Haynes and Hunter. Cascade is a nice area isn’t it Mrs. Hunter. Looks like she caught wind of how CPD were doing home checks and got back to Clayco just in time from Cascade. Since you so well versed with the law tell me about gag order violations? Apparently your MAcE member Hunter violated one by dropping dime on the board when Warren Ballentyne came into town and had his town hall. By the way Ms. Hunter thanks for the info!!!

Mr. Trotter since you are the one with the power and elephant cohones tell your members on the board to step down and run again. If you believe your platform on discipline is so solid parents shouldn’t have a problem voting your members in again.

NOT!!!

By Tuffie

April 16, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

CLAYTON ALERT

Eddie White told his fellow board members in Executive Session: “I have been told [presumably by Mark Elgart] that Dan Colwell and Bob Livingston [the last two white superintendents; BillyRip, I guess you were right] will be acceptable as a superintendent [I presume ‘Correct Superintendent’].” End of Story

By SHEILA b

April 16, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

pleasssssssssssse Pleassssssssssse LET the white man come save us……… ARE you satisfied now MarK ELgart???? Thiss is what YOU wanted the whole Time. YOU ARE stiil mad aboutDAN COOLwell getting fired by the SISTERS!!!!!!!!!!! Fake MARK ELGART!!!!!!!!!! FAKE Eddie WHITE who goes alongg with everyting.

By gads!

April 16, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Nice hand, Trotsky! You are playing all the race cards. Unfortunately, it is probably the winning hand because there are enough stupid people around to follow suit.

By PHJ

April 16, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Trotter. They hired the wrong superintendent when they hired Pulliam. They were supposed to hire you, weren’t they? What went wrong there, hmm? I’m sure Kimberly enjoys seeing you exploit us for your own advancement. You are the worst kind of white man. We don’t need you here and we don’t want Dan Colwell back. He was a lousy super.

By Clayton Voter

April 16, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

I am not looking for anyone for any office based on the color of their skin. However, I have absolutely no intention of ever voting for anyone ever again who is affiliated with John Trotter. Mr. Trotter, your holier-than-thou attitude will not cut it. There is no viable reason to continue to let the children suffer for your ineptitude. If you want any support, then give the people what they want and tell Baines-Hunter and Haynes to relinquish their seats. Whether the current board members have done anything wrong or not, we want to start from scratch!

By shadowwolf

April 16, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Dead Poet - Do last 6 years really show ANY positive influence/change coming from MACE members.

Did not say they were members, JT - just associates, eager to please. By the way - I do not give a hang about Colwell or Pulliam - but all this political one-upmanship is destroying students chances in this county - the very people you claim to want to help.

By Common Sense

April 16, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Trotter, Oh I’m sorry Dr. Trotter again, no one wants to debate a fool who tries to play the race card all of the time. Look, you are “WHITE” and you keep messing everything up in Clayton County so, if you were really about “THE CHILDREN” you would ask the 2 or 3 people you have on the board that are MACE members to do what is best for this county and resign. Therefore, we can keep our accredidation and educate our children here in Clayton County. Also, I am glad you stepped up to the plate and stopped using your fake screen name but, sorry I am still going to use mine. Not because I am a coward but, because I love to see a dummy like you sweat.

By S

April 16, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Dr. Trotter:

What’s truly amusing to me is that you think that abusing this blog and antagonizing Mr. Dorsey into a fist fight is somehow helping sway people to your point of view. You are a spectacle, and a buffoon. If you are as smart as your title labels you, then you would see that your actions in regard to this matter are asinine. Do something to help the county instead of trying to bully it!

By Shannon, M.Div.

April 16, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

I wanted to post one quick note. For the record, I teach critical thinking as a part-timer at Clayton State, hold two masters’ degrees from Emory University, graduated from Lovejoy High School in 1992, and will begin a Ph.D. program this fall at Georgia State. I no longer live in the county because my husband and I live near his office and Emory (where I was in school). My mother was a Clayco teacher for a number of years and continues to teach in Henry.

I wanted to post something as a mild corrective to Attn: Clayton Parents and others who want GAE and MACE to be viewed as competing unions. GAE and MACE are very different types of organizations. Yes, they both fall under the rubric of union, but they are worlds apart both in their purpose and in their execution.

MACE, for better or worse, is a local-based union focused on immediate working conditions and teacher defense, and it is often antagonistic with school administration at the county and school levels in order to accomplish its goals. MACE’s members are highly dedicated and defensive of the organization, and it’s polarizing.

GAE, by contrast, is a union focused on the broader strokes of teacher pay as well as national working conditions (as a branch of the NEA) for everyone in public education. My mother is a GAE member, for example, and she’s hardly a huge fan of the organization (since she is more sympathetic to conservative politics than liberal politics, and the NEA donates to more liberally-identified politicians than conservatives—quite natural, since career educators are generally against vouchers).=

Most teachers are members are GAE, and there is one simple reason: insurance, specifically liability insurance. This is crucial for classroom workers in our litigious society. My understanding is that a number of members of MACE remain GAE members primarily for this reason.

To speak of a “GAE voting bloc,” as some have done, is silly. MACE has a clear, local agenda—whether you like their agenda or not—which makes them effective or annoying depending on your perspective—but GAE members are like IBEW or Teamsters members. They don’t necessarily agree with everything their union does, and they don’t necessarily agree with each other. There’s no “GAE voting bloc” or GAE plan to take over anything. That’s simply outside their purview.

If you eliminate GAE members from consideration for the school board, you’re eliminating almost everyone in the education industry. Some people might applaud that. I’m not among them. I believe that expertise through experience and education make for good board members. Business leaders and parents do have something to offer, but to attempt to overhaul an educational system without any educators is, in my opinion, shortsighted.

…but then, I do teach critical thinking.

By Kimberly Allen

April 16, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Know the Truth - unfortunately I do not have access to IP addresses or emails (unless posted in a response). All that information is only available internally by TPTB at AJC.com. Sorry.

By Leigh

April 16, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

I’ve reviewed the MACE Website in its entirety and would find it a complete hoot, save for the fact that the children of the area don’t get to enjoy the joke. They have to continue to learn under the tutelage of the losers that MACE purports to represent.

I actually moved to Atlanta in the early 1990s and did not consider Clayton County as a potential area to settle due to the county voter’s defeat of a necessary education tax increase that illustrated to me that the area did not value education and would not vote to support it. So troubles in this area have been brewing for a long time.

If I did live in Clayton County, I would surely do everything in my power to insure that John Trotter held absolutely no sway over anyone that I voted to place in a leadership position in the area of education.

By Sad But True

April 16, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

MACE is a “for profit” so called union. If MACE was really interested in helping the teachers and students it would not be “for profit”. Think about it.

By HS Teacher

April 16, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

As a resident and a teacher for many years in Clayton Co, I am disturbed that the public reading this material will assume much of this is truth. Sad to say, a lot is personal and political—not for the children.

The purpose of the school system to prepare our children to function as a tax paying, VOTING citizen who is a life long learner.

By Red

April 16, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

What I really would like to know is why are all the folks that don’t live in Clayton County have so much to say, as if they really care. All we heard from outsiders are negative responses that really is not important.

We need positive stuff that can help get Clayton County back on tract.

Yes, we are open for what will help our kids, not what was but, what is to happen.

By For a Better Clayton County

April 16, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

Who cares if the interim or permanent superintendent is white. What matters is if they can do the job or not. Got news for you. Know how is know how, no matter what color it is.

Four years ago, there was some who said “It’s our turn now”. Well, how about our motto the next four years be “Let’s turn it around now”.

By Attn: Clayton Parents

April 16, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

Well Leigh (and any other MACE basher who would do “anything in their power” to stop MACE) all you have to do is pick up the phone. I do believe that Dr. Trotter has offered an open challenge to any of you for a formal debate.

If you’re THAT sure of your opinion, and THAT sure you’re in the right, why not show all of us the light…and engage in an open, formal debate?

By Attn: Clayton Parents

April 16, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

Sad But True,

Care to tell us specifically why a “for profit” organization, by definition cannot be an advocate for teachers?

The School Box, for example, is a “for profit” organization and they certainly provide goods and services that are of assistance to teachers and students, do they not?

So yes, we have “thought about it” and your point is not a point at all…rather more like a dull amorphous splotch on the blogsphere.

By Attn: Clayton Parents

April 16, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

Eddie White a man of “integrity”? I guess that’s why the first thing he did as the new micromanager (excuse me, chairman) was blatantly violate the law by shutting out the voters just like he did when he went along with the Davis/Johnson/SACS power play and tried to shut out Norreese Haynes.

Now that Haynes has been totally vindicated by a Secretary of State’s office that has ZERO reason to do a local school board rep any “favors,” will White do the right thing, or hide behind Dorsey Hopson’s skirt? (Dorsey Hopson and his illegal contract, yet another vote by White. Gee for a man of “integrity” he sure doesn’t seem to mind violating the law, does he?)

By Noreese's Boyfriend

April 16, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

All right Dr. Trotter

Meet me on main street in Jonesboro at high noon Friday. I challenge you to a duel. The choice of weapons are Nunchucks, butterknives or Ally Apples (Bricks). Be there or be square!

Bring Magnum Condoms for the after party!

By Clayton Resident

April 17, 2008 7:37 AM | Link to this

If you all know that is Dr. John Trotter, why do you let him come on this blog every week and hijack it with his agenda/opinion/politics? The subject of this blog has little to do with the school board.

Or is this just a sign that Clayton residents do not really want to address the problems and don’t actually want to do anything themselves to fix it? We want someone else to fix it? Well what I know of John Trotter, he is DIVISIVE and he’s now using this blog to divide further.

How many of you have contacted one of those agencies above and offered to get involved? It’s easier to talk trash on this blog than actually get out there and help make a difference.

By S

April 17, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this

Mr. Haynes and Mr. Trotter:

The point is we want to scrap the whole thing. I didn’t live in Clayton when you were voted in, and honestly I think I can choose a little better. If you want to be in the right, then be better than Eddie White and all the rest and politely bow out of this battle. That’s the only way public opinion will ever improve of the two of you.

By Rev. Jimmy Jack Bourbon

April 17, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Good Morning, my Fellow Clayco Reprobates, of whom I am Chief: I want to give a special “shout out” to my friend who teaches school DeKalb County. I see that he has been making the rounds on this board again. He’s extremely talented. His many, many blogs of late are so easily identified for someone like Rev. Bourbon to spot. Actually, the bumbling manner in which they are spewed forth so quickly in their animus toward the Trotter fellow (as well as against Haynes and MACE) is somewhat comical. Same person with many, many monikers (Shannon, S, Norreese’s Boyfriend, Clayton Resident, Leigh, HS Teacher, Sad But True, just to name a very few today). But, they do make for an interesting future study about “The Pathology of a Local Public School Teacher.” You would think that seven pickets for this pitiful soul at four high schools would make him happy. I guess he gets more thrills at casting anonymous barbs at people who actually pay him money. The thrill of living on the edge? Little Teacher, Rev. Bourbon has always known that it was you. The patience of Job which the good Lord has blessed me with has enabled me continue to be gracious with you because I know that you stay in a little controversy at nearly every school where you have worked. You have taken our criminal and civil actions against your administrators. You continue to even bite the hand that feeds you. It really is pitiful. People try to be your friend. But, you have come to the right church here at The Hosea Williams Memorial Church of World Peace and Reconciliation Beginning in Clayco. As the “Beloved B*******” Will Campbell of Mt. Joliet, Tennessee always says, “We are all b******* but God loves us anyway,” I do offer my “Amen” to this profound statement. “Brother Teacher,” you are always welcome at our church. Jesus is a friend to sinners, which certaily includes each of us and especially your Very Most Reprobate Reverend, Jimmy Jack Bourbon.

By Dr. John Trotter

April 17, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Reverend Bourbon: I do indeed think that I know of whom you speak. Yes, he is very talented, but, in my layman’s opinion, a little “self-destrutive.” I have evidence that he was actually doing some very nasty and distasteful emails against an organization for which he worked. Not just seven pickets, Rev. Bourbon, but many, many letters, interventions, and grievance representations. Quite frankly, I am relieved that this gentleman is no longer a member of MACE. He kept us busy, to say the least. But, Rev., I know of the reputation of your church, and I know that unlike Rev. Wright, you don’t rail against any of us sinners. You just unconditionally accept us (for which I am thankful) and I am sure that your demonstrative love (Phileo) for him will do wonders for this very Talented Teacher. Rev., I wonder if we can use your church’s facilities if anyone will ever accept my offer for a formal debate about the Clayton County School Board vis-a-vis Mark Elgart and SACS. So far, no one has responded to my challenge. I wait with baited breath. Come forth, Mr. Williamson! Come forth, Mark Elgart! Come forth, Cephus Jackson! Come forth, Larry O’Keefe. By the way, Gloria Duncan: I am waiting for you to follow the school law and process that grievance that MACE for the teacher at Marshall Elementary. I have talked to you on many occasions about this. My patience wears thin. This is a Georgia Statute (OCGA 20-2-989.5 et seq.). When superintendents do not follow the grievance law, MACE dusts off the picket signs. In fact, I think that I will accompany the MACE Picket Brigade to Gwinnett County today. Picketing is good for the soul. I love it! I think that it will help, with God’s grace, me live longer.

Remember the challenge. I love debating also. I love Clayco!

By Dr. John Trotter

April 17, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

OK, you anonymous weenie bloggers (especially the Talented Teacher in his many personalities, all looking so pious and innocent), come forth and spew your animus toward me! As always, it’s been fun, but now I go to work! Won’t get home to real late. Hey, by the way, aren’t the school board members looking like bumbling idiots? What are they thinking, or can they think at all or just be led around by the scared attorney? Maybe Elgart is right, after all. Ha! They look very dysfunctional! Perhaps in our future debate, I will take the AFFIRMATIVE. They are ALL looking pitiful. God does work in mysterious ways.

Hey, I am having fun! Excitement every day! Don’t get too jealous of me. Don’t be like those haters from Decatur. Show that Clayco Thug Love. Peace.

By Red

April 17, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Has anyone seen the invitation sent out by J. Scott? They have the nerve to use Obama name on there to get money and attract people.

If you are politically correct, you would not have to use any high profile person to get a contribution.

I don’t throw stones, but something is wrong wioth that picture!!!!!

By Red

April 17, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Has anyone seen Mr. Johnson signs yet? Where is his first name. We must have a billion Johnsons around.

Will the real Rod Johnson please post your full name so we can know who we are voting for!!!!!

By Red

April 17, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

Mr. Trotter, I have been reading your e-mails and in reference to Clayco thugs,that is very negative and ugly you must want to be one because you are always in Claytons business and don’t even live here. Why are you so negative about Clayton? Has Victor and his boys p** you off also?

I know of you and, what I hear it’s not pretty!!! But I never judge what I hear only what I see!!!!

By JohnsonQP23

April 17, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Go away John Trotter, aka Billy, ClaytonCo Parents, Rev Jimmy JackBurbon, et al. - We want you GONE! It is partly your fault that SACS is here. You are a criminal - just like most of these Clayton elected officals.

By Red

April 17, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Billy Rip

As far as chicken heads friends, This must mean you becasue I am telling you, I am voting for Bob Hartley and he will win!!!!!!! If you have guts, why don’t you run!! I thought so NONE

By Fred

April 17, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

Talk all you want about John Trotter, but if you’re a teacher, you want him in your corner. It says something about how things have gotten for teachers. But, when you mention MACE and John Trotter, the principals get very nervous. I have seen this with my own eyes. I retired last year, but my last five years were so tough I had to join MACE. The MACE staff always calls you back. I can testify to that. I don’t necessarily agree with how Trotter does things, but he gets results.

By WTF?

April 17, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Red - YES I too have noticed that the Rod Johnson signs do NOT have his first name on them. I’m sure he’s hoping that he’ll grab a ew loose votes from those Clayton voters who don’t (rather, won’t) research candidates beforehand.

Well his full name must appear on the ballot on election day when we vote and as soon as I see the name Rod Johnson I will ignore it or vote against it.

I am sure his wife Celeste Johnson isn’t too happy to be on the ballot this year, guilt by association and all that (rightfully so, I bet she has collected her fair share of kickbacks and perks from her husband’s association with CCPS).

By S

April 17, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Jimmy Jack or whatever you choose to call yourself (Mr. Trotter):

I don’t know who you think I am, but let me give you a clue. I am a Ped off, taxpaying *mother. I will not reveal myself because I don’t want my children to suffer at your hand as I know that you would use your influence to cause me harm through them. The fact of the matter is the only people that should matter are the children and their parents. A seat on the school board is an office of civil service, and should only be held by those who seek the best interests of the students in their district. Haynes and Baines-Hunter, most specifically, have abused their authority for their own personal advantage. I don’t know what sins the other board members are guilty of, but I do know that noone who has held the office has cared in the least what the public has openly spoke out for since the beginning. The only one who has come close to meeting the wishes of her constituents is Ericka Davis.

You’ve abused this blog long enough. Kimberly and the AJC can’t stop you so I’m going to show you how to act like a real grown up. I don’t know about any of the other bloggers, but I myself will not play your game with you anymore. This is the last of me. Do me a favor, if you don’t mind, post all the members of MACE in the Clayton County school district on your website. That way, I’ll know who not to vote for, and which teachers I need to keep away from my children.

Thanks so much!

By Shannon, M.Div.

April 17, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Since the Rev. Bourbon (a moniker which is at least potentially offensive to Christians, if one thinks about it) called me out, I’ll state for the record that I post under one name and one name only, and this is it. I am a 1992 grad of Lovejoy High and teach at Clayton State University part-time (critical thinking), my name is Shannon, and I will be in a Ph.D. program at GSU beginning in the fall (with both a full tuition waiver and full teaching assistantship).

My post had one point, which is that GAE and MACE are different types of unions. Just about every educator and administrator are members of GAE simply for the insurance, and thus to speak of a “GAE voting bloc” is disingenuous and rather silly.

I’m not saying anything bad about MACE, but I think Trotter, Haynes, and Yarborough would agree that they’re organized, active, have a clear agenda (improving classroom discipline), a standard methodology, and a history of being confrontational with administrators. I’m not arguing whether that’s good or bad, but it’s clearly a different animal than the NEA/GAE/CCEA, and to compare the two as being equivalent is just… nuts.

By WTF?

April 17, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Most people in this county know who Johnson is. They think he has some nerve attempting to play on the ignorance of voters. So I say let Johnson pretend that he actually has a chance at any other political office in this county. I’ts sad to see such a promising young man crash and burn! I gues the old adage is true, give a man enough rope and he will hang himself. Rod Johnson is toast in this county, Period!

By Ex-Clayton

April 17, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

MACE, is a “foist” and a deception. MACE is not a “UNION”, to be a union MACE would have to have “Collective Barging Rights”. The State of Georgia does not Recognize any “Collective Barging Rights” of MACE. So MACE along with “Kingfish Trotter” is a fraud. Check for yourself. “Kingfish Trotter” is a charlatan, just like the Clayton School Board.

By Red

April 17, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Amen WTF,

He has them all over and I don’t vote on last names. Give me all or give me nothing. I understand he is a minister, I guess religion and politics don’t go together for him. He need to tell the truth and be honest about who he is.

By Bob Hartley 4 Clerk of Court

April 17, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

Bob Hartley is clearly the best choice for Clayton County. He brings forth a proven track record of civic activism for the citizens of Clayton County. It’s about time we demand our agenda (The agenda of the taxpayers)is addressed. If you are tired and concerned about the downward slide Clayton County is headed then do something about it! Vote for those candidates who have our best interest at heart. How do you know? visit Bob’s web site at www.myspace.com/bobhartley08 Bob Hartley has integrity and the experience to serve the citizens of Clayton County well! Let’s Elect Bob Hartley, Clerk of Court on July 15th!

By t williams

April 17, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

BOB HARTLEY

BOB HARTLEY

BOB HARTLEY

inquiring minds want to know why, Bob Hartley, you denied on this blog weeks ago and on give-em-the-boot weeks before that your political involvement with John Trotter?

PUT A BROTHER ON A BILLBOARD

inquiring minds wonder why, Bob Hartley, you denied over and over again that a billboard was used in your previous political failure as well as John Trotter as your political guru. inquiring minds ask, Bob Hartley, why did you deny both of these truths?

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE

inquiring minds want to know, Bob Hartley, how anyone can claim that you have *integrity when you lied several times to the simple question of *John Trotter’s involvement in your previous political failure as well as the billboard with your name on it. inquiring minds want to know if your integrity comes from the fact that you are not as big a liar as, say, **Rod Johnson?

PROVEN TRACK RECORD

inquiring minds want to know, Bob Hartley, if your proven track record refers to your sale of bootleg cds or to your insertion of yourself into the school board follies or to your several previous attempts at political office in Clayton County. inquiring minds want to know, Bob Hartley, how Clayton County can choose between two liars, Bob Hartley or Rod Johnson for Clerk?

PIN THE TALE ON THE AS, OOPS, DONKEY

inquiring minds wonder whether Bob Hartley 4 Cleark of Court will put up another billboard during this political season? inquiring minds suggest this slogan: Put Another Lying Brother, But Not Rod Johnson, In The Court’s House! catchy, isn’t it, ask inquiring minds?

BOB HARTLEY

BOB HARTLEY

BOB HARTLEY

By Dork Avenger

April 17, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

I remember Bob’s sign said “People Over Politics”! I know because my neighbor had one in her yard.

By Deep Throat

April 17, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

T Williams

Who do you support for the Clerks campaign?

By Maude

April 17, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

I agree that I am tired of John Trotter thinking that these blogs are for his private use. We are so tired of reading what he has to say. I hope no one believes all the crap he is putting on these blogs. It does at times provide a good laugh. Like Trotter asking for a debate. That one kept me laughing for hours! If you have ever saw Trotter present at a board meeting or in any other public meeting you will know he has no idea of how to debate. I just hope the citizens of Clayton County are smart enough to vote out his puppets. As for his so called “union” that is for profit. Mr. Trotter needs a way to pay his bills and pay his puppets.

By t williams

April 17, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

inquiring minds have not made up their minds about supporting someone in the Clerks campaign.

inquiring minds can say without hesitation though that inquiring minds would never support Rod Johnson for any political office in Clayton County. inquiring minds look forward to Rod Johnson finally keeping his promise and resigning from the Board of Education.

inquiring minds wonder, Deep Throat, who you will support for the Clerks campaign?

By P.O.S.T. CERTIFIED

April 17, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this

John Trotter, Opps, I mean T. Williams. What is your major malfunction? Were you abused as a child? Why do you get on here under all these assumed names and spew forth negativity? Do you have proof of your allegations against Bob? If so share it with us so we can make an informed vote! From what I see, Bob is out there working to bring the county together. I meet him at the County Commissioner meeting and can tell you he comes off as intelligent and knowlegable about the duties of the clerks office. I will not vote for anyone who is an incumbent now because they all suck. I’m willing to give bob a chance because I SEE him out there working and thats good enough for me. Go Bob Go!!!

By Rev. Jimmy Jack Bourbon

April 17, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

JohnsonQP23, Shannon, S, Ex-Clayton (aka Talented Teacher): There is no “Shannon” teaching any “Critical Thinking” at Clayton State. So easy to check on these lies. Two to three minutes. Still thinking that The Rev. can be fooled. I was trained by Dusty Rhodes. Who calls Trotter “the Kingfish”? Hmm. Y’all quit being so hard on Bob Hartley. At lease he and Trotter use their own names on this blogs. The rest of you are anonymous weenies, living lives of quiet desperation. Was that Thoreau or Emerson? t williams, you are brilliant. You can tell the Rev. the answer.

By Deep Throat

April 17, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

Without hesitation__ BOB HARTLEY!!

By NotSoFast

April 18, 2008 7:29 AM | Link to this

http://www.journaltimes.com/local_news/

Intresting read. Looks like the school board is doing it’s job, all while the teachers unions are not.

http://www.journaltimes.com/articles/2008/04/18/local_news/doc4807b8ec6419a378552700.txt

By Attn: Clayton Parents

April 18, 2008 7:29 AM | Link to this

Gee, a lot of “talking the talk” about how right you are and how bad Dr. Trotter is “for the children”…but precious little walking the walk.

If you’re THAT convinced he’s wrong and you’re SO concerned “for the children” why not do “the children” a favor and engage him in an open, formal debate?

By Great Dawn of Day

April 18, 2008 7:31 AM | Link to this

Rev. Jimmy Jack,

Put the Bourbon down, its making you think you’re bigger than you really are. Before you start running your mouth, learn how to search for truth. I found what you were looking for in less than a minute. The Rev. thinks he knows all…which is his greatest weakness.

By Red

April 18, 2008 7:37 AM | Link to this

As for Bob Hartley past campaign, Trotter explained in a previous blog that this was his idea which messed Bob Hartley up. We need to move forward and let the past go. Bob’s track record speaks for itself. Bob has been very instrumental in wanting the best for our Children and our County. I’d say he has my vote and many more people I know of. Rod Johnson is hiding behind his last name. All we want is the best candidates that can clean this county up and bring back respect and dignity. We must be very careful in voting this year. Please Clayton County Voters do your homework. All of you that have not voted in the last election, please you must vote this year, we need help here. Our homeowner taxes are high, our kids are getting a bad deal due to no fault of their’s, our home values are down greatly. Le’t bring back a better and stronger County.

By NotSoFast

April 18, 2008 7:49 AM | Link to this

John Trotter/Jimmy Jack/Billy Rip/Attn Clayton/Earl/t williams….etc… John Trotter

MPD-a condition in which a single person displays multiple distinct identities or personalities, each with its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with the environment

We know you and this is your story…..With all of your brilliance, you will see the moral, but will you get it?

**a hungry wolf came upon a sheep’s fleece lying on the ground in a field. The wolf realized that if it wore the fleece, it would look like a sheep from a distance. That would enable the wolf to sneak up on a flock of sheep and steal a lamb for its supper, before the shepherd noticed his presence.

The wolf put on the fleece, and went off in search of a flock of sheep. It spied a flock of sheep just as the sun was setting, and approached the flock. Just as it was about to pounce on a lamb, a shepherd came by, looking for a sheep to slaughter for supper. Thinking the disguised wolf was a sheep, the shepherd quickly grabbed and killed the wolf.**

By Which is Louder? Words or Actions?

April 18, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this

The problem with Dr. Trotter and MACE is that actions speak louder than words. A debate? This will convince anyone he and MACE are making Clayton better? Words. Words. Words. It will not accomplish anything.

A reputable leader in the Community does not need to throw tantrums, call other people names in a blog or on their own website, challenge people to fights, get arrested in public, etc. It is childish, unprofessional, and sets a poor example. They don’t need to say anything because what they do speaks for them.

“Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.”

By NotSoFast

April 18, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this

John Trotter/Jimmy Jack/Billy Rip/Attn Clayton/Earl/t williams….etc John Trotter

MPD-a condition in which a single person displays multiple distinct identities or personalities, each with its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with the environment

We know you and this is your story…..With all of your brilliance, you will see the moral, but will you get it?

**a hungry wolf came upon a sheep’s fleece lying on the ground in a field. The wolf realized that if it wore the fleece, it would look like a sheep from a distance. That would enable the wolf to sneak up on a flock of sheep and steal a lamb for its supper, before the shepherd noticed his presence.

The wolf put on the fleece, and went off in search of a flock of sheep. It spied a flock of sheep just as the sun was setting, and approached the flock. Just as it was about to pounce on a lamb, a shepherd came by, looking for a sheep to slaughter for supper. Thinking the disguised wolf was a sheep, the shepherd quickly grabbed and killed the wolf.**

By Mr. Ben Dover

April 18, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

With all the dysfunction going on in this county, why is it that the only campaign being talked about is the clerk’s race? Don’t you think we need to start talking about the chairmans race, the sheriffs race etc?

By WTF?

April 18, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Thanks to Red & Ben Dover, 2 lone voices of reason here.

If you all are so against Trotter or whatever he/she/it is calling themselves on these blogs, why do you keep engaging?

The person says the same things over and over and over and over again, week after week, month after month, on this blog & every week you all find new & improved ways to argue and nothing ever gets resolved. Ever.

If you folks keep provding an audience for his fodder, he will keep on spewing the b.s.

Still waiting to read which organizations listed on the Kimberly’s article that ANYONE on this blog will participate with to help make our county better.

I am a part of CCWHOA & my local PTA & my HOA. I have also read give-em-the-boot several times as a guest. I do not agree with everything these organizations do or say, but at least I’m trying to help.

HOw about you?

By LilJinx

April 18, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

For the LOVE of GOD PLEASE TAKE DOWN THAT DAM* PICTURE OF JOHN OL’ BALDY HIMSELF TROLL-ER!! I HATE BEING SICK EVERY TIME I OPEN THE METRO CLAYTON PAGE!

By The Truth Hurts

April 18, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

FACT: If your trace CC school system’s problems back to their beginning, they go back to 3 people, Neda Ware, Kitchens and “Kingfish” Trotter. That when the seeds were planted. Kingfish Trotter does nothing but cause conflict and problems among people. Trotter surrounds himself with a bunch of losers because he thinks he can manipulate them. Somebody like Trotter could never compete with a group of his peers and he knows that. So he finds a bunch of losers that he can foist, fool and control. Trotter was the “Nerd” and “Geek” when growing up. This little power play he is on is a way of getting back at the world that never has and never will take him serious.

By Kimberly Allen

April 18, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

REMINDER

On Saturday 4/19 at 3:30pm, Concerned Citizens of Clayton County (“C4”) will conduct a Mega Town Hall with topics ranging from SACS status, alternatives and options, candidate selection process and more. Go to http://groups.google.com/group/concernedcitizensofclaytoncounty or call 770.374.2144

By Red

April 18, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

We all have to stay focused and remember that all the seats that are opened need to be filled with caring capable people that care about this county. Slinging mud and all is not going to help. Action speaks louder that words.

We also have another meet and greet for Rainwater next Saturday 4/26 at The Coffee Spot on Tara Blvd before you get to Tara Road from 2-4. Come and check him out. He is running for Sheriff. We need to check out all of our candidates and ask questions. I believe it is better when you meet them face to face.

By Dr. John Trotter

April 18, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Hello my anonymous Trotter addicts. I do not have a lot of time to play with your small minds this morning. I am in a hurry. But, my offer still stands for an public and formal debate for any of you anonymous toads who can muster up enough nerve to come out of the anonymity of your “courageous” blogging. The Trotter Addiction is a serious malady. However, I can only give you addicts just a moments this morning. Have at it, my fellow Clayco thugs.

Oh, one or two tibits of info before I get off. I understand that the board may have officially ended its relationship with attorney Glenn Brock in executive sesssion. The Board cannot do that because he was “hired” in the open. Is there some negotiations going on between Rod Johnson and Gloria Duncan? Is Rod angling for a job — just in case the Clerk’s job does not pan out? Why just “Johnson” on “his” signs? Could they really be Celeste’s signs? Her chances of winning the Clerk’s race would be much better than Rod’s. (I think that the days of her double-dipping at the Capitol are over. The Clerk’s job will give the Johnson household more income.) Rod is The Negotiator. Why, by the way, would Gloria Duncan be closing down the Success Academy?

So, Mark Elgart has his Blessed Three? Is this what is going on? Dan Colwell, Bob Livinston, and Cephus Jackson? Let’s see now…Dan, Mark’s buddy, was fired by Ware and Gang. He should have been fired. He was weak and rude. But, Ware and Gang hired Chavis. Their very first move was a disaster. But, this does not mitigate the fact that Colwell, while serving as superintendent, had been very rude to Ware, Kitchens, and Crummy. Then, when I did my little part to defeat three of the the four incumbents (OUCH! that is terrible!), the new and bigger gang fired Dan’s butt. I was glad to see him go. He was weak as an administrator. Of course, by this time, Ware and Kitchens, had become experts and were not seeking out my advice for anything. That was fine, but I realized quickly that little toads often need a scapegoat. So, I am your “bad guy,” you little toads. Hey, I’ve given you too much time and info. Gotta run. The Kingfish

P. S. Bob, I have never been “t williams.” This too is one of the many, many monikers of the troubled “Talented Teacher” who appears to be suffering from the Trotter Addiction. I see that he was back on here several times this morning. Hey, Toads, if you do not like Rev. Jimmy Jack Bourbon’s presence, you will have to get over it. My friends love him on this blog, just like they loved The Prophet Earl on the old News/Daily blog. I am thinking about reviving Earl as The Profit Earl since so many of the Anons on here love to talk about me and money. Of course, I will also have to revive The Evangelist Elvis, Earl’s cousin.

I have had people trying to get me to send out the newsletter (The Lion’s Roar! subtitled: A Quick Clayton Update) taht we used to send out each month. Boy, that was a journalistic sizzle. People would meet me all over the county and ask, “When am I getting my Lion’s Roar! this month? We would send this (yes, by mail) all over the county each month — and to all the Constitutional officers in the State (the Governor and so forth) as well as to all the state legislators and superintendents too. But, guys, I have to make a living. I have school systems to take over. You know my power. Lyle Harris, formerly of the AJC governing board, dubbed me the The Svenghali (did I spell this correctly?), and I have to live up to the reputation. I am the “bad guy” in the mold of early Dusty Rhodes (when he teamed up with Dick Murdoch as the Texas Outlaws). Perahps I can morph into a “good guy” (Baby Face, in wrestling jargon) like Dusty eventually did. But, right now there’s too much money in being a “bad guy” (Heel).

So, my friends, now all you can have of “John Trotter” is blogging on some days on this AJC blog. Thanks, AJC! No stuffing of envelopes and posting stamps. It is easier. And, Miss Kimberly, I will try to stay within some of the bounds of propriety. This new emerging group (TAC: Trotter Addiction Coalition) might not hold as many rallies as the groups founded by Bob, Mr. Williams, or Ms. Baldwin (Hey, Cyn!), TAC can occasionally meet in the back room of Butch’s, and I will let all the Trotter Addicts throw darts at me. I will even allow Cephus Jackson to throw one of those mean Texas Darts at me.

Gotta go, d-mn it! I’m meeting Rev. Bourbon for lunch to see if we can talk to a certain one [I just erased his name] into allowing us to form an exploratory committee about his running for Commission Chairman. If he runs, he will win. A few predictions? Lil Vic wins in a yawner. The Commission Chair’s race will be Clayton Old Style. Get ready for this one, Miss Kimberly. Three’s not going to be a lot of candidates in the school board races, except in Eddie’ district, District Six. But, Eddie might not step down. But, all on the board members are looking terrible right now. Yes, my friend and colleague Norreese is looking pretty good, much to the chagrin of The Ever Meddling Eldrin. The irony of this school board fiasco is that Eldin is basically incompetent at running the County, and yet he wants to kibitz (sp?) in the school board affairs. The school board does not need Elrin to help it collapse. Don’t kill someone who is already committing suicide! Hey, Eddie, y’all quit letting that Memphis Lawyer, Dorsey Hopson, lead y’all around like his has hooks in your noses. It is so unbecoming. Y’all are looking stupid in the media. NOTE: I actually had someone become very offended that I used the contraction “y’all.” I have used this contraction for “you all” all my life. I like the contraction. How ‘bout you, Cephus?

By Shannon, M.Div.

April 18, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

http://a-s.clayton.edu/cais/faculty/montgomery.html

Yes, there is in fact a “Shannon” teaching Critical thinking at CSU. That would be me.

I post under one name.

By Bob Hartley

April 18, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

We will have the petition for the recall of District 9 School Board member Sandra Scott tomorrow at 2:30 pm at across the street from Mt. Zion High School during the Mega Town Hall Meeting. Only registered voters in District Nine can sign the recall application!!! PLEASE find out what district you are in before signing the application! This is your opportunity to do something positive for the children of Clayton County!

By Napoleonic Complex

April 18, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Name dropping in bold print makes me feel more important than I really am.

By Tired

April 18, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

Could you please change that picture of Trotter AJC? We have had to look at that thing for two weeks now!

By CC Democratic Insider

April 18, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

VOTER ALERT

It appears Lee Scott has a dog in the Clerk of Courts race. Michelle Thomas will run for this seat. Michelle Thomasis the wife of the Lee Scott controled Clayton County Democratic Party Chairman, Kevin Thomas. These assclowns will stop at nothing to consolidate their power and control at our expense! Just say no to Lee Scott’s puppet MICHELLE THOMAS!

By Mad Attorneys

April 18, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

I know that the attorneys are mad at Rod Johnson for trying to cut another deal for a law firm…not from Miami this time…but for Steve Fincher’s firm to become school board attorneys. How many firms are they are going to go through to bail them out of this nest? If the negotiations take place behind closed doors, this too is another violation of the law. Contract negotiations (with exception of land deals) are to be held in the open. We gotcba again, Little Rod Johnson.

By WTF?

April 18, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

there is SO MUCH corruption going on in this county, I can’t keep up!

But I also know for a fact that Michelle Thomas is a Lee Scott puppet and should not be considered for Clerk or any other elected position. Her husband Kevin Thomas is FILTHY DIRTY ON THE TAKE!! But since he is connected to the Scotts, that should not be a big surprise.

By Advisor

April 18, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

WANT TO SAVE CLAYTON COUNTY? Don’t vote for anyone named Scott, or connected with any Scott in any way, shape, or form. This includes anyone taking any money from any Scott. They ahve there hands in everything. Its like a desease!

By NotSoFast

April 18, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

John Trotter/Jimmy Jack/Billy Rip/Attn Clayton/Earl/t williams….etc John Trotter I truly believe you have MPD.

MPD-a condition in which a single person displays multiple distinct identities or personalities, each with its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with the environment**

We know you and this is your story…..With all of your brilliance, you will see the moral, but will you get it?

a hungry wolf came upon a sheep’s fleece lying on the ground in a field. The wolf realized that if it wore the fleece, it would look like a sheep from a distance. That would enable the wolf to sneak up on a flock of sheep and steal a lamb for its supper, before the shepherd noticed his presence.

The wolf put on the fleece, and went off in search of a flock of sheep. It spied a flock of sheep just as the sun was setting, and approached the flock. Just as it was about to pounce on a lamb, a shepherd came by, looking for a sheep to slaughter for supper. Thinking the disguised wolf was a sheep, the shepherd quickly grabbed and killed the wolf.

FYI- http://www.journaltimes.com/articles/2008/04/17/local_news/doc48078ed7f205d903184500.txt

Also

http://www.journaltimes.com/articles/2008/04/18/local_news/doc4807b8ec6419a378552700.txt

By Boot The Board

April 18, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

http://socialnetwork.meetup.com/981/messages/2665226/

When Saturday, April 19, 2008 at 2:30 PM 20080419T183000Z

Where Mt. Zion High School Across from the Performing Arts Center Rex , GA 30273 866-257-0395

Who should come Every citizen in Clayton County ready to move forward with the recall effort.

Why Because a unified voice is THE voice! Together we will bring much needed change to Clayton county and we will work to preserve accreditation. How to find the organizer(s) “Look For the table with the red banner.” —Bob Hartley (Chairman, Concerned Citizens Coalition)

Details We are issuing a call to action to all members of the Concerned Citizens Coalition. Come out Saturday at Mt. Zion High School, April 19th at 2:30 PM to man our tent and collect signatures at the Mega Town Hall Meeting. Your participation is needed. The Concerned Citizens of Clayton County (C4) will be conducting an educational forum on the recall process. PLAN TO ATTEND!

By Attn: Clayton Parents

April 18, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

To one “Shannon, M.Div.”:

While we may have a different take on things, I want to acknowledge that your posts are well written and well thought out.

And while I agree there is not necessarily what one would call a singular, monolithic “GAE block” on every issue, I think it is an accurate term when it comes to opposing MACE on the board, even when MACE brings issues to the table for the betterment of students.

One example comes to mind is the manuvering the GAE block did to combat the Teachers’ Bill of Rights.

I don’t think anybody in their right mind wouldn’t say discipline is a major problem, or that the lack of systemic support for teachers isn’t a problem (remember the system’s own exit surveys say that) yet GAE indeed did act as a, no pun intended, “block” to try to water down the proposal by substituting their own bill.

Eventually they voted for both, knowing there was no way they could not pass the MACE proposal, without being seen (correctly I might add) as being soft on discipline.

Other issues bring other dynamics into play in addition to the “GAE voting bloc” of course. But the term will have to suffice, as I don’t have the luxury of teaching critical thinking skills to the typical MACE basher on this blog (such as the one who called Trotter a “dummie” who doesn’t even know how to spell the word dummy. Sadly that is not an atypical example.)

Not that all MACE bashers are mouth-breathers; some are just simply clueless to the realites of the classroom, especially in ClayCo.

Still, I’m sure all the “atypical” MACE bashers who are SO sure MACE is wrong on the issues have offered (“for the good of the children”) to educate us all by meeting Dr. Trotter in a formal debate, right?

Lyle Harris?

Maureen Downey? (Come on Maureen, Victor will protect you from the Crips and the Bloods and whatever else you imagine “those people” are like in ClayCo)

Maude? You said a debate with Trotter was laughable…walk the walk!

By Apology is Due

April 18, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

Hey Trotter or Jimmy Jack…You owe Ms. Shannon M. an apology I do believe. You all but called her a liar. A true gentleman would stand-up and offer a heartfelt and sincere apology. A reminder from a fellow reader should not be necessary but apparently it is!

By The Truth Hurts

April 18, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

Lets face it, CC school system is behind help at this point. Its a lost cause. Lets not forget Neda said when she first took over saying “Da iz a new Sheriff in town” waving her arms in front of the TV cameras. Clayton County School System went straight down the craper after that. Ware, Kitchens, Kingfish Trotter and Chavis all helped sink the ship. But they did do one thing, they put Clayton County on the 6 o’clock news every night and made a joke out of Clayton County Schools. Yes people all over the state crack jokes about Clayton County Schools Jokes.

By BillyRip

April 18, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

Bob Hartley, you have to be the STUPIDEST man walking this earth. OK, we sign the recall petition, we get 100 signatures, they are checked, the Petition goes to the JUDGE, the JUDGE have to determine whether she committed a crime, if she did the people of District 9 can go forth and get 14,000 signature that must check out. However, if she didn’t commit a crime; we’re spinning our wheels. I don’t think any individual school board member committed a crime, however, as a collective, as a board they screwed up. the RECALL EFFORT should be aimed at RECALLING the ENTIRE board. Bob Hartley, you’re such a SIMPLTON. What a POLITICAL BLOWHARD &GRANDSTANDER.

By BilboRip

April 18, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

OK Billy, I’ll take care of the light weight, RED, you have to be amongst the STUPIDEST being in the Galaxy. If you think intelligent people in this County will vote for a Zipperhead like (Bilbo Bob Hartley). He ought to be ashame of wasting those folks time. What a DIPSTICK or should I say DIPSH_T.

By T Carl

April 21, 2008 7:39 AM | Link to this

Same cowards hiding behind phony names posting same garbage everyday here. waaa waaa waaa! What a bunch of loosers!

By Dr. JohnTrotter

April 21, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

Shannon, M.Div.: I apologige to you, young lady. You are in fact real, a graduate of Lovejoy. My daughter also graduated there and was fortunate enough to attend a luncheon with the First Lady this past week. (Her ole man insisted that she get photos.) Were you on the Odyssey of the Mind National Championship Team? Have fun while you are in school. Our Vice Chairman at MACE has a M.Div. (a three year program), and he is a nationally certified chaplain (two additional years at Emory). We know that we chaplains! Keep up your good work and make us Claytonians proud. We definitely need “critical thinking.” Again, I am sorry that I mispoke about your identity and would have apologized earlier but when I leave for work (and invite all of the anonymous toads to come out from under their rocks), I truly hardly ever look at this blog until the next morning when I want have another laugh. Merriment is good for the soul. My “sage” advice for you as a young professional: Do not take yourself too seriously and stay off the blogs! Just kidding! I enjoy reading what you have to say. Just think: Not long ago, I didn’t even know how to turn on a computer. Take care, Your Reprobate Reverend, The Profit Earl (You see, I am really confused about my many personalities. I need help.)

By C. Griswell

April 21, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this

I would not call Bob stupid. You just need to know the facts. The law states a recall can’t be started against an incumbent within 180 days of their election. That excludes Johnson, Ash, Hunter, White and Everette. Mr. Haynees is tied up in court until May 5th, and Ericka Davis resigned. Ms. Strong is currently under recall efforts. So as you can see the only one eligible for recall is Scott. So Billy get your facts straight before you post your opinions of people in the county DOING something!

By Ray

April 21, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this

There was an extremely poor turnout at the Concerned Citizen for Clayton County’s Mega Town Hall Meeting on April 19th. There are 130,000 registered voters in the county, and only 400 to 500 showed up. If this is the attitude of the residents of Clayton County regarding the potential loss of the school system’s accreditation, then I have no choice but to move to a county were the citizens are truely a concerned people!

By Fowler

April 21, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

you areso need to lern to spel TOTTER………..it is apologize. YOu wrote ” apologige” you creep If you did not live in Clayton county my son would not be spening 8 yars in Jackson. Why dont you move onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Wilma

April 21, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

We thank you, Mark Elgart (and accomplices, Ericka Davis and Rod Johnson), for destroying our county. The three of you ought to be proud of yourselves.

By Monique

April 21, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

I went to the town hall meeting and was disappointed. It was a total waste of time. There was no new information. I was looking for action items and a time frame to implement them. All I saw were politicians grandstanding. Glanton, Salaam, Davenport all of them need to go! And as far as the turnout what do you expect from a bunch of single moms on welfare and section 8. Most of them were at the beauty salon or at the barbeequ. I’m packing up and moving on. To hell with Clayton County!

By Red

April 21, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

Bilbo Rip

Put your money where your mouth is. I am by no far light weight. I may be thin but not thin skin, and I can fight the best of them. Are you running for any office? I did not think so!! It take gut which I am sure you don’t seem to have much of except MOUTH!!! Why don’t you run for something if you live in the county!!!!

By WTF?

April 21, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

I didn’t attend that mega town hall because I figured it would be more of the same and exactly as Monique stated. All talk, no action. Based on soundbites I saw on the news, it did look like a lot of political grandstanding. It is an election year after all.

I think that was only the 2nd time I saw Roberta Salaam during her ENTIRE TERM in office. the first time was when she was plugging her Coretta Scott King bill, which has NOTHING to do with the district she “serves” (using the term “serves” very loosely).

By Luminous Lucious

April 21, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

I can see all things going on in the County. I can see what is occuring now and what will occur in the future. For a small donation to my new mega church beginning in the Mount Zion area (we will actually be having services in an area school), I will enlighten you about the happenings of our illustrious County. There is a sifting taking place now. The weak and feint-hearted will leave, traversing toward Fayette and Henry, but they will find that they will encounter similar problems. As soon as African Americans become politically active and take some seats formerly held by European Americans, then the latter will call Mark Elgart to help them in their new dilemma. Mark Elgart will wield the almighty sword called Accreditation, and he will slew the invaders. Mass hysteria and mob action will ensue. The pattern repeats itself. The mob calls for action, not unlike the scenes in the old Roman Coliseum. The leaders are paralyzed with fear and proceed to turn over their souls to functionaries (lawyers) who lead them around like they have rings in their noses. Then, they truly do look incompetent and then they truly do need to step down because fear and inaction has overcome them. But, this starts first with the almighty Accreditation sword which Mark Elgart unjustly wields against a school systems which offends his vain sensibilities (or perhaps fires one of his friends). No, Mr. Williamson and Bob, 400 to 500 people is no small number. If they would peacefully march (with brilliantly bright picket signs) to the Governor’s office or to his house on West Pace’s Ferry Road, then this is a good start. It will certainly get his attention. I think that the Governor could make Elgart an offer that he could not refuse. SACS is nothing but a mirage — or like the guy in the Wizard of Oz, the man who was scaring everyone (sorry, but I never liked watching that movie). SACS is a phoney organization, but the Georgia legislature tied the Hope Scholarship to it and other accrediting agencies. SACS is the more well-known. I think that the Georgia Accrediting Commission has been around since 1905. The Hope Scholarship is also tied to its accreditation. Your energy is really directed against the wrong people. The school board members have now been effectively rendered helpless. Dorsey Hopson now appears to be running the show. This is the attorney who has two different contracts, and the second one appears to be fraudulent. This is one of the things Mr. Haynes was pointing out. Now, the school board meets with the Fincher law firm tomorrow. This is the firm which Rod Johnson has apparently been pushing. Dorsey Hopson came from the Miami firm. Rod and Erick pushed for the Miami firm, but with the controversy about their $400 Plus hourly rates and other things, this firm exited the scene but left us **Dorsey Hopson.

Yes, Mr. Williamson and Bob, you guys are working hard, but you are mis-directing your efforts. The school board members are just little helpless creatures right now, but the real enemy of Clayton County is Mark Elgart. He apparently wants, in descending order, the following “approved” candidates to be chosen for superintendent: 1. Dan Colwell; 2. Bob Livingston; or 3. Cephus Jackson (the man who filed (along with Ms. Suder) the complaint with SACS in 2003 against the school system).

Well, that’s enough info for now. You will just have to figure out some of this on your own. If I told you too much, you would not appreciate it. I could see your frustration from Saturday’s turnout. Actually, this was a good turnout. But, recalls and signing up to run is not the answer to the dilemma that Mark Elgart put on Clayton County. You have the peasant grabbing the pitchforks and stabbing each other. No, they should cross the moat and storm the castle. NOTE: This example is purely metaphorical. I never advocate violence or getting physical; however, your words (especially colorfully displayed on signs) can wield much power. Your friend, Lucious

By mlk

April 21, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

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By mlk

April 21, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

John Trotter,

You are a disgusting little biggot who prays on the uninformed and frustrated black people in Clayton County. Everyone knows that you are posting all of these entries under different names. you don’t even have the guts to identify yourself. You are the real problem in this community. you sit back and plot and scheme on ways to protect your illiterate puppet/boyfried Noresse Haynes. I heard the Board lawyer say let the courts decide. I think he is wrong. I think the community has already decided that we do not want this deceitful sodomite on the school board. The only thing he is good for is to help MACE push its agenda of keeping substandard teachers and lining your pockets. As for attorney hopson running the school board, that does not seem to be the case. Nobody is running that bunch. especially that cheating, drinking drawl-spitting suposed to be superintendent that Trotter hand-picked. He hand-picked her so he could get her to push that burdensome and unfair CEP contract on the District so he could get his cut. Word on the street is that he is still working behind the scenes to KEEP Gloria in the Superintendency for another year. this will give trotter time to get other puppets elected to the dysfunctional board. The people in this community should go to Trotter’s office, snatch him out, beat him down and hang him (not literally of course only figuratively, I would never encourage physical violence….although I would have loved to have seen a real fight between the Board attorney and trotter. i am sure that young brother would have stomped a hole in trotter’s spineless backside) like Trotter’s forefathers would do in the day if they were aware of Blacks engagin in mischief. Lets keep it clear, Trotter is a white man profiting on the pain, suffering and dysfunction of black folks and we continue to allow him to do it. People, please wake up.

The person who seems to be running that Board is the sacs lawyer, Glen Brock. he has charged the district over 100 thousand dollars for a couple of power points. Yet and still, the Board is scared to fire him for some reason. I wonder why. Probably because he is also white and trotter supports him taking advantage of the poor souls in Clayco.

By mlk

April 21, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

John Trotter,

You are a disgusting little biggot who prays on the uninformed and frustrated black people in Clayton County. Everyone knows that you are posting all of these entries under different names. you don’t even have the guts to identify yourself. You are the real problem in this community. you sit back and plot and scheme on ways to protect your illiterate puppet/boyfried Noresse Haynes. I heard the Board lawyer say let the courts decide. I think he is wrong. I think the community has already decided that we do not want this deceitful sodomite on the school board. The only thing he is good for is to help MACE push its agenda of keeping substandard teachers and lining your pockets. As for attorney hopson running the school board, that does not seem to be the case. Nobody is running that bunch. especially that cheating, drinking drawl-spitting suposed to be superintendent that Trotter hand-picked. He hand-picked her so he could get her to push that burdensome and unfair CEP contract on the District so he could get his cut. Word on the street is that he is still working behind the scenes to KEEP Gloria in the Superintendency for another year. this will give trotter time to get other puppets elected to the dysfunctional board. The people in this community should go to Trotter’s office, snatch him out, beat him down and hang him (not literally of course only figuratively, I would never encourage physical violence….although I would have loved to have seen a real fight between the Board attorney and trotter. i am sure that young brother would have stomped a hole in trotter’s spineless backside) like Trotter’s forefathers would do in the day if they were aware of Blacks engagin in mischief. Lets keep it clear, Trotter is a white man profiting on the pain, suffering and dysfunction of black folks and we continue to allow him to do it. People, please wake up.

The person who seems to be running that Board is the sacs lawyer, Glen Brock. he has charged the district over 100 thousand dollars for a couple of power points. Yet and still, the Board is scared to fire him for some reason. I wonder why. Probably because he is also white and trotter supports him taking advantage of the poor souls in Clayco.

By mlk

April 21, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

John Trotter,

You are a disgusting little biggot who prays on the uninformed and frustrated black people in Clayton County. Everyone knows that you are posting all of these entries under different names. you don’t even have the guts to identify yourself. You are the real problem in this community. you sit back and plot and scheme on ways to protect your illiterate puppet/boyfried Noresse Haynes. I heard the Board lawyer say let the courts decide. I think he is wrong. I think the community has already decided that we do not want this deceitful sodomite on the school board. The only thing he is good for is to help MACE push its agenda of keeping substandard teachers and lining your pockets. As for attorney hopson running the school board, that does not seem to be the case. Nobody is running that bunch. especially that cheating, drinking drawl-spitting suposed to be superintendent that Trotter hand-picked. He hand-picked her so he could get her to push that burdensome and unfair CEP contract on the District so he could get his cut. Word on the street is that he is still working behind the scenes to KEEP Gloria in the Superintendency for another year. this will give trotter time to get other puppets elected to the dysfunctional board. The people in this community should go to Trotter’s office, snatch him out, beat him down and hang him (not literally of course only figuratively, I would never encourage physical violence….although I would have loved to have seen a real fight between the Board attorney and trotter. i am sure that young brother would have stomped a hole in trotter’s spineless backside) like Trotter’s forefathers would do in the day if they were aware of Blacks engagin in mischief. Lets keep it clear, Trotter is a white man profiting on the pain, suffering and dysfunction of black folks and we continue to allow him to do it. People, please wake up.

The person who seems to be running that Board is the sacs lawyer, Glen Brock. he has charged the district over 100 thousand dollars for a couple of power points. Yet and still, the Board is scared to fire him for some reason. I wonder why. Probably because he is also white and trotter supports him taking advantage of the poor souls in Clayco.

By Rosa Barbee

May 19, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

Who the hell is Rosa Barbee

By I know the FAT GIRL

May 19, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Thats the FAT Mexican that works for Bob Hartley for FREE or when he can pay her. She also run an Illegal Wet Back Day Care for special kids also at Bob Hartley’s sign shop. The kids learns a trade while they’re there, FOR FREE. Just ask her Husband’s child, the one she lies on every chance she gets. She do believe in god and she also believes in being in everyones business, and thinks she knows everything and everybody, and she loves mexican food or just food period. If you want to see her look her up on myspace through bob hartley’s site. She has a pic the of her when she was skinny before she had the little mexican. You know after a Mexican have a baby they get FAT. Hey Rosa, you so real why not put a recent pic up or is the square to little. More to come……………..

By Alice Cody

August 11, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

New resident of Clayton County. Where are the HOA meeting? Why is there a stipulation you can’t come unlesson you are a member.

Please email status

By Alice

August 11, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

New resident of Clayton County. Where are the HOA meeting? Why is there a stipulation you can’t come unlesson you are a member.

Please email status

By Mrs. Cody

August 11, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

New resident of Clayton County. Where are the HOA meeting? Why is there a stipulation you can’t come unlesson you are a member.

Please email status