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Should sheriff get a pay raise?

Clayton County Sheriff Victor Hill’s current salary is $101,493 — and now he wants a pay raise of almost $21,000.

Thousands of tax dollars have already been frivolously spent by Hill, including the choir/overtime debacle, questionable paid leave for his suspended chief deputy, the Valentine’s Day telephone messages and more internal investigations than all the “CSI” shows combined.

We can only speculate how much the fired 27 officers’ lawsuits will cost us, all while Clayton residents complain that warrants take longer than necessary to be processed and served.

Serving warrants is just one of the primary tasks of almost every sheriff’s department in a Georgia county where a county police department exists.

Hill counters his salary is not comparable with other Georgia sheriffs’, the sole reason to grant him a $21,000 increase. If Clayton doesn’t compete salary wise, we will never attract desirable candidates for any elected office.

But has his service (or indirectly, his department) been equal to that of his counterparts? What justification is there for Hill to receive this pay increase?

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By Shauna

March 12, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Sherriff Hill does not a pay raise . He is not doing his job

By Shauna

March 12, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Sherriff Hill does not a pay raise . He is not doing his job

By Shauna

March 12, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Sherriff Hill does not a pay raise . He is not doing his job

By Sue

March 12, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

NO, he does not deserve a raise. He needs to pay the County back all the money he has cost it already.

By ANTHONY

March 12, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

NO HE SHOULD NOT GET A PAY RAISE,HE HAS SPENT MONEY PAINTING CARS,CHANGING UNIFORM WHEN THEY DID NOT TO BE,LAWSUTIES MONEY TAKING MONEY FROM THE RESIDENT OF CLAYTON AND NOT GIVEN ANYSERVICES HE SHOULD REMOVED HIS POST.

By cat

March 12, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

I believe that Hill and his department are doing a great job; and yes he should get a pay raise if it brings his salary in line with other sheriff’s pay.

By Greg Lawrence

March 12, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

Yous peoples needs to be leavin Lil Vic alone. Maybe he need da monies for his chilrens braces or new cell phones or somefin!

By RAY

March 12, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

NO sheriff victor hill has not earn a raise,only think he should raise is a inpeachment heaing to remove himself from the post he holds in clayton taken money from the residents of this co.he owes us money back for all this misuse of funds,spending ,painting cars,uniforms changing,blowing money.

By Ken

March 12, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

Sheriff Hill does not deserve a pay raise. You have to earn it, and it is very clear he has not done that.

By Pam

March 12, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

Whether we approve a pay raise or not, it should not go into effect till the next term..(after an election). He knew what he was getting when he ran for the job.

By T. Brown

March 12, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

I think that the sheriff should possibly be granted a pay increase in a year or two. I believe that he first needs to resolve some of the money issues that are hanging over his head now. You have to remember that it is the taxpayers money that pays his salary and he should want them happy. When his people are happy they will do whatever is necessary to make him happy.

By N. Mitchell

March 12, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

The word “raise” instantly sparks a NO from residents. However, I believe they should get enough information to make an informed decision on the raise. I believe not only does the sheriff deserve one, but all of his deputies as well. This is a very dangerous job and police officers as well as teachers and firemen deserve a lot more than they are paid. The negative controvery that has been shed on Clayton Co. & the sheriff’s office has some merit, however, a lot of this could have been avoided if the commission chair and others would allow him to DO HIS JOB! All of this stems from that old CRAB MENTALITY and someone wanting to be sheriff, as well as all the PREJUDICIES that came with him becoming the FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN SHERIFF in Clayton Co. It is once again time for us as a people to stop jumping on the ban wagon because the media and those that don’t want him in office because of his color, are betraying him in a negative way. Wy not take it upon yourself to call or stop to meet and talk with your sheriff and see what he is about. I believe he is doing a great job - step back and let him work. Hmm! I don’t recall any of you standing up to the other sheriff. Here we go living with that same slave mentality - WAKE UP PEOPLE! STOP hating on each other and give him the same opportunity as you have others all your life.

By N. Mitchell

March 12, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

The word “raise” instantly sparks a NO from residents. However, I believe they should get enough information to make an informed decision on the raise. I believe not only does the sheriff deserve one, but all of his deputies as well. This is a very dangerous job and police officers as well as teachers and firemen deserve a lot more than they are paid. The negative controvery that has been shed on Clayton Co. & the sheriff’s office has some merit, however, a lot of this could have been avoided if the commission chair and others would allow him to DO HIS JOB! All of this stems from that old CRAB MENTALITY and someone wanting to be sheriff, as well as all the PREJUDICIES that came with him becoming the FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN SHERIFF in Clayton Co. It is once again time for us as a people to stop jumping on the ban wagon because the media and those that don’t want him in office because of his color, are betraying him in a negative way. Wy not take it upon yourself to call or stop to meet and talk with your sheriff and see what he is about. I believe he is doing a great job - step back and let him work. Hmm! I don’t recall any of you standing up to the other sheriff. Here we go living with that same slave mentality - WAKE UP PEOPLE! STOP hating on each other and give him the same opportunity as you have others all your life. Do they broadcast nightly about the drugs, etc., in Buckhead, Alpharetta, Midtown, etc.? When they do, they run through it so quick until you miss it. THINK. Why is Clayton County the FOCAL POINT of the news media? Someone in Clayon County does not want Victor or any other AFRICAN AMERICAN to remain sheriff and they are making sure to feed the media to keep him portray him negatively in the news. Don’t be swayed by the request for a raise, check out what he is really doing and whether what he’s doing will improve Clayton County.

By cathy

March 12, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

I agree with N. Mitchell entirely. This man has only been in office 2 years; and it is going to take some time to straighten some of this mess out that he did not create. I have read his ideas and heard some of them; and they are very good; maybe some of you need to read them before saying no. Let the man do his job and then maybe things in the county can improve. How long was the previous sheriff administration in office; and where were all of you boisterous people then. I’ve been here since 89; and I saw the conditions changing way before Victor Hill took office. I voted for him because he recognized that we had problems; and he was not afraid to say it out loud while others were sweeping it under the rug. I like the fact that he speaks his mind no matter what; and those are the people who will try and make a difference for the area; not the people who look to everyone else for an ok to proceed.

By Sir Laughsalot

March 12, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

A raise for the sheriff will only inspire him to create more havoc and in the long run cost the taxpayers more hard earned dollars. For a small man he already has a “big head”. A bigger paycheck will not reduce the swelling, it will only increase it. He truly fits the saying “he’s a legend in his own mind”. But, there’s an election coming in the near future that will deflate him quite severely.

By Pam

March 13, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

Voters need to remember, the higher the raise, the higher the retirement benefits when he gets voted out. Moreover the continuing cost to the taxpayer.

By clatyon cty resident

March 13, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

I do not believe Victor Hill deserves a promotion at this time. I went back to college earned my Bachelor’s degree and can not work in my county because the jobs don’t pay enough! Has anyone actually looked at the pay scale for officers who actually work the beat? In the two years he has been in office my sub-division has turned into the ghetto; due to no police presence. I don’t need a recorded valentines message; I need police presence! Put that money into the hands of our officers, that way when they become injured on the job or expire on the job their families don’t have to immediately set up trust funds through their local banks.

By S. Small

March 13, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

I believe wholeheartedly that the position of Sheriff deserves a pay increase! I also believe that Sheriff V. Hill has done a great job in trying to “clean up” Clayton County. Once the “good ole boys” left office the backing of their “friends” left also leaving the predominately minority county to deal with the problems of migration of poorer (thanks to the Olympic venues forcing many to the suburbs, namely Clayton County). Where is the backing that the offices had prior to the minority races coming in and taking office? We need to take care of each other, be leaders, not followers and I believe that if one does their homework they would see that the county is much better off than prior to two years ago. However, it is so much easier to hold onto the perceived injustice that was done when Sheriff Hill first took office with the firing of other officers that the general public is blinded by the good that has come to the stern leadership of Sheriff V. Hill.

By denise

March 13, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

to the clayton county resident response; you need the police dept and not the sheriff dept for your troubles; you need to be calling the CCPD about your area; it is not Sheriff Hill’s job to patrol your neighborhood.

By Pam

March 13, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

Nationwide, large Metro areas only use Police to fight crime and run the jail. Jeff Turner would do a very good job. He is a fine gentleman who has spent much of his life in Clayton County and has worked his way through the ranks. He was even educated in Clayton schools. We would save a bundle getting rid of the office of Sheriff.

By Barry Wynn

March 13, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

The amount of money wasted by this man on his watch would be more than the raise he would get. He has not done a good job. If he wanted to be a policeman he should have stayed in the police force not run for sheriff. he has abused his power at times especially when he fired those deputies without cause and why is his name on the cars?

By derek

March 14, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

A pay raise!? He was basically kicked from his last job, his qualifications (though voted in) are questionable at best (a PFC Military Police is better trained. He has done nothing to help Clayton County PD stem them rising crime rates or help enforce laws and code violations. He’s gotten new equipment and done moral boosters for the Sheriff’s Dept (mainly a jail management and warrant issuing dept). Finally instead of trying to cooperate with his peers and co-workers he (despite his limited expierence and education) antagonizes all, wastes money and is a laughing stock to other counties and departmnts

By Tony

March 14, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

NO! Sheriff Hill does not deserve raise. Before that office’s pay is brought in line with the rest of the state, our crime rate and quality of life needs to be brought in line with the BEST in the state. If his supporters can do no better than blindly (and immediately) charge his critics with racism, that’s proof he has no accomplishments to stand on. I don’t care what color the Sheriff or any other public official (elected or appointed) is, as long as he or she does their job!! The County Commission isn’t tying his hands — it is simply providing a much-needed check on his attempts to grab power and authority that his office is not entitled to. Until I can see measurable decreases in crime that can be directly attributed to Sheriff Hill, I will vote against him next year. I will also vote against any elected representative that approves or supports a raise for him. If our lawmakers are dedicated to rewarding those actually responsible for fighting crime and protecting the public, they need to fight for raises for the Sheriffs’ deputies and our CCPD officers.

By Darryl

March 14, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

Recommend the Sheriff provide specific verfiable evidence to the county of his department’s performance prior to the approval of a raise. In addition, if his raise is approved, the entire Sheriff’s Department should receive the same level of increase. If they all can not receive an increase, he should not receive an increase.

By Gail

March 14, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

No Sheriff Hill does not need a pay raise. However, if the President of the county commissioners would leave the sheriff alone he probably could do a better job.

By southside

March 14, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

Why should Victor Hill get a raise? What has he done? Let’s see he had sued the county commission several times, he has fired several deputies only to have to hire them back, he has sent out newsletters and phone recording using taxpayers money, painted the cars, new uniforms, redecorated the courthouse, had lawsuits filed against him by the officers he tried to fire, and again more lawsuits against the county commission. I am no economist but everything listed above cost money. Do you know who pays those bills? WE do the taxpayers of the county. Like any other job you know going in what the job pays and you accept it as such. Now think of the mess the next sheriff is going to inherit when Victor is gone.

By PB

March 14, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

The position of Clayton County Sheriff should get a pay raise, but this should be done just before next election.

By CC

March 14, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

PREJUDICIES that came with him becoming the FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN SHERIFF in Clayton Co? Where do you live? the whole county is black! And its the reason he was elected Sheriff.

By Lisa

March 14, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

I do not feel Sheriff Hill deserves a pay increase. Sheriff Hill has not done anything for the county and in the end we as taxpayers will be paying for that increase. Every year I am evaluated by my supervisor and my pay raise depends upon my work performance for the year. Sheriff Hill has failed at his job and doesn’t deserve an extra penny!!!!!!!!!!

By Rky

March 15, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

Ah…let the race baiting begin. Why is it that the good ole boys are the ones to blame anytime African-American leadership or lack thereof is criticized? As of the 2000 census Clayton County was 37.9% white and 51.6% black; and I’m sure those numbers have changed in the last seven years with even more blacks and less whites. Those who are critical of the negative opinions of Hill are the very ones who can’t see past skin color and won’t recognize that black voters made a grievous error by electing Hill as Sheriff. Various posters have already pointed out what you get by voting skin color only. But all the problems facing Clayton County or Hill cannot be laid at the feet of law enforcement. The once nice middle class neighborhood I left just a few years ago now looks like a ghetto. Same houses, same mortgages and no white people to hold a brother down and it has become crime infested and resembles a third world country. And then then you have the media conspiracies. Those tin hat suggestions that the media is picking on Clayton County by covering it more. The media covers more about Clayton County simply because there is more to report coming out of the county. Is anyone suggesting that the reports are made up? Without all these red herrings those who support Hill are left with nothing but his performance record laid bare for all to see. And that in itself provides ample evidence that a mistake was made voting him into office and clearly provides any thinking person the insight they need to loudly say NO to any pay increase based on his ineptitude. If a raise is approved it should not be effective until after the next election for Sheriff. And if the unthinkable happens and Hill is re-elected, only then should he benefit from any increase in salary for which he doesn’t deserve and has never earned.

By allison

March 15, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

I do not think the Sheriff should get a raise, he has cost the county to much money already. He already got one salary increase last year. If the legislature votes to give him a raise I will not vote for the person in my district next year during the election!!

By Sir Laughsalot

March 15, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

RKY, I tip my hat to you. Well said. I also believe that the voters in clayton county, most of whom are african-american, realize their error and can’t wait to fix it.

By Can't Believe It

March 15, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

After ALL the wasted money…the petty window dressings, uniform changes, car’s painted with his name, unserved warrants, unsettled lawsuits, inability or unwillingness to cooperate with CCPD and Clayton County residents are STILL arguing over this? My God, people…..I hate to say this…but WE DESERVE EVERYTHING WE GET. If the voters of this county are TOO STUPID, TOO BIASED, or TOO RACIST to see the grievous mistake made by voting for skin color…then we better get used to higher taxes, poor service, and unchecked crime. GET REAL, PEOPLE!

By P. Ingersoll

March 15, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Yes, but the raise should reflect the type of job he’s doing.

By JBird

March 16, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

It always comes down to the color of someone’s skin. That has nothing to do with the ability to do a job. I don’t care if he is blue with purple polk-a-dots. He is a thorn in the side of Clayton County and should be removed. He has done nothing worth mentioning except cause an uproar in the Sheriff’s department and when the past sheriff is mentioned, it is always the “good ole boys” system. There were deputies working there, both black and white…Just because Victor Hill is a black man does not instantly make him a worthy sheriff and therefore, I do not believe a raise should be given to someone who obviously cannot earn the respect of those that work with him or those he supposedly serves and protects.

By Mrs. Davis

March 16, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

Give him a rasie. However, with that raise should come more responsibilities with follow-up actions. He should also give a contribute to a charity!

By DLW

March 16, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

No he does not deserve a raise. Misuse of county funds detract from more serious issues such as education and healthcare.

By whatonearth?

March 16, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

A raise for what?! He has cost this County more money and embarrassment than any other politician past or present. He and his Scott cronies are nothing but race baiting carpet baggers. I hope they get the message in the next election and go elsewhere with their hate mongering.

If anything the $21,000 raise he is requesting should go towards his legal fee’s that the taxpayers of Clayton County will be incurring in the near future. Who is going to cover the cost of the County’s inability to receive insurance at a decent rate? That’s right the taxpayers. Why is this? Because Victor has exhausted the limit of the insurance and they refuse to insure the County without a big premium. One company even stated that as long as he is Sheriff they would not offer a policy.

2 more years and hopefully a more qualified person will be Sheriff.

By A LEO

March 19, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

That “man” does NOT deserve a pay raise. How about getting one for his deputies first. $10,000 each would be a good start.

By Susan

March 20, 2007 7:36 AM | Link to this

If the sheriff of Clayton County wants a pay raise equal to other counties, let him go leave in another county and run for office. The taxpayers of Clayton county have had to pay enough and will be paying more due the foolish management of Hill.

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